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pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:39 AM
Controlled Labs Elements:
GlycerGrow™ Cell Burst Formula
1000 Grams (2.2 Pounds) Powder
Our price: $54.99 (MSRP)

Complete Label / Warnings / Supplement Facts (resized / resampled but readable):

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Key Attributes:


- Intracellular nutrient / electrolyte delivery
- Cell Volumization
- Vascularity
- Growth
- Recovery
- Intensity
- Improve thermoregulation and endurance


GlycerGrow™ is the most advanced standalone cell volumization breakthrough ever to reach the market. GlycerGrow™ combines a proprietary and synergistic blend of pharmaceutical grade ingredients to increase cell volume, aid the osmotic effects of creatine, and enhance the natural anabolic responses of weightlifting. When combined with a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a solid workout protocol, this product helps give the user increased gains in size, strength and vascularity.

During a cutting (calorie deficit/fat loss) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Red Acid™ and Green Bulge™ to keep workout intensity levels high. GlycerGrow™ may also help minimize cramping. As an added bonus, GlycerGrow™ appears to have little impact on insulin and blood sugar levels.

During a bulking (calorie surplus) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Green Bulge™ and White Blood™ for extreme pumps and to optimize your lean gains. GlycerGrow™ may also enhance your extreme stretching protocol.

During a bodybuilding or fitness-related contest preparation phase, GlycerGrow™ can be used to improve vascularity as well as maintain both workout intensity and electrolyte balance, which may help you achieve the muscle hardness, fullness, and density needed to win.

During endurance training, GlycerGrow™ may improve hydration and stamina.

During power-lifting training, GlycerGrow™ may improve explosiveness, recovery, and conditioning, helping to avoid the symptoms of over-training.

What exactly is Glycerol MonoStearate?


Glycerol occurs naturally in the body. When it is ingested as a supplement, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of the fluid in the blood and tissues. The concentration of these fluids is held constant by the body, so water consumed with glycerol is not excreted until the extra glycerol is either removed by the kidneys or broken down by the body. In laymen's terms, taking glycerol in supplemental form quickly improves hydration and the absorption of other supplements that are taken with it. The end result is faster delivery of nutrients when and where you need them the most and the prolonged "pump effect" during your workouts. Our Glycerol is esterified with stearic acid to form Glycerol MonoStearate. Glycerol MonoStearate is a colorless, odorless and sweet-tasting flaky powder that is hygroscopic (it absorbs water from the air, so keep this tightly closed at all times).

Why are there calories and fat in GlycerGrow™ whereas other glycerol (or Glycerol MonoStearate) products do not mention calories or fat on their labels?


Good question. As far as the FDA is concerned, glycerol is a carbohydrate and stearic acid is a saturated fatty acid. Therefore, Glycerol MonoStearate has both fat and carbohydrates in it, which both result in calories. But you have heard that saturated fat is bad for your cholesterol? True, in most cases, but not with stearic acid. Stearic acid is one of the only saturated fatty acids that actually have a neutral or cholesterol-lowering effect on serum cholesterol levels in human studies.

Initial (First Serving) Instructions:


To assess your individual tolerance, combine 1-2 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it about 30 minutes before your workout. Shake well before drinking (powder DOES NOT dissolve well in liquid).

Directions For Usage:


Combine 1 - 4 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it over an extended period of time (pre-workout, during your workout, and post-workout). Shake well before drinking (powder does not dissolve well in liquid). For best results, GlycerGrow™ should be used in combination with Controlled Labs’ Green Bulge™, at least 1-2 gallons of water per day, a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a hypertrophy/volume training workout protocol.

Warnings:


Consuming this product on a completely empty stomach may cause nausea. Consuming this product while on a liquid diet may cause diarrhea. Consuming this product without a sufficient water intake may cause dehydration. This product has been banned by various sporting organizations, including the NCAA. You should not take this product if you have any prior medical condition, including diabetes or high blood pressure. Consult your doctor before using this product.

REFERENCES


1) Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of serum glycerol in patients with brain edema: comparison of oral and intravenous administration. Acta Neurochir Suppl (Wien). 1994;60:550-1.

2) The effect of glycerol and desmopressin on exercise performance and hydration in triathletes. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1998; 30:1263-1269.

3) Pre-exercise glycerol hydration improves cycling endurance time. Int J Sports Med. 1996; 17:27-33.

4) Biochemistry, pharmacokinetics and clinical and practical applications. Sports Med. 1998; 26:145-167.

5) Hyperhydrating with glycerol: implications for athletic performance. J Am Diet Assoc. 1999; 99:207-212.

6) Glycerol hyperhydration: hormonal, renal, and vascular fluid responses. Freund, B.J., Montain, S.J., Young, A.J., Sawka, M.N., DeLuca, J.P., Pandolf, K.B., Valeri, C.R. (1995). Journal of Applied Physiology, 79, 2069-2077

7) Monsma, C.C.; Ney, D.M. Interrelationship of Stearic Acid content and triacylglycerol composition of lard, beef tallow and cocoa butter in rats. Lipids 28(6):539-547; 1993.

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pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:40 AM
Cell Volumization... the ultimate supplement


Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329

Complete Glycerine / Glycerol information thread


Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581

Electrolytes 101:

Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=658426

Taurine:

Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228656&postcount=7

Creatine Uptake and Sodium:

Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=414123

Potassium Information

Please Read it completely:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pot.html

United States and International Olympic Committee position on the use of glycerol


The International Olympic Committee (IOC) added diuretics to its list of banned substances in 1986. This is fine, because the use of diuretics is detrimental to the maintenance of fluid homeostasis. Moreover, the use of diuretics is known to decrease the concentration of the urinary markers used to detect abuse of anabolic steroids or other banned ergogenic aids. Glycerol was formerly classified as a diuretic agent by the United States Olympic Committee (USOC), but not by the IOC (13). Such a classification by the USOC was based on the clinical use of glycerol as an osmotic tissue dehydrator. However, glycerol causes minimal diuresis, as only 20% of the intake is excreted by the kidney in urine during rest conditions (13). The remainder is metabolized in the liver and kidney tissue. Indeed, since 1997, the USOC has removed the ban on glycerol and has approved the use of glycerol ingestion by athletes in USOC-sanctioned events.

NCAA Permissible/impermissible products:


To assist the membership in accurately applying Bylaw 16.5.2.g, posted below are two lists of supplements: one permissible for the institution to provide, the other containing examples of impermissible ingredients.

It is important to note that when reading the ingredient label of a supplement product, the listing of any impermissible ingredient makes the product impermissible. Further, when considering the product's protein content, the reader should consider the listing of the word "protein" and the number of grams included. If any other parts of a protein are listed separately, as in any amino acid or chain, it would not be permissible for an institution to provide such a supplement to its student-athletes. If the product lists a "proprietary protein" or "protein blend," then this is not protein from a whole food source, but rather a concoction created by the manufacturer, and in most instances includes impermissible supplement ingredients..

Permissible:

* Vitamins and minerals
* Energy bars
* Calorie replacement drinks (for example, Ensure, Boost)
* Electrolyte replacement drinks (for example, Gatorade, Powerade)

Impermissible

* Amino acids (including amino acid chelates)
* Chondroitin*
* Chrysin
* CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid)
* Creatine/compounds containing creatine
* Garcinia Cambogia (Hydroxycitric Acid)
* Ginkgo Biloba
* Ginseng
* Glucosamine*
* Glutathione
* Glycerol **
* Green tea
* HMB (Hydroxy-methylbutyrate)
* Melatonin
* MSM (Methylsulfonyl Methane)
* Protein powders
* St. John's Wort
* Tribulus
* Weight-gainers
* Yohimbe

* It is permissible for an institution to provide glucosamine and/or condroitin to a student-athlete for medical purposes, provided such substances are provided by a licensed medical doctor to treat a specific, diagnosed medical condition (as opposed to prescribing them for preventive reasons).

** Glycerine or glycerol as a binding ingredient in a supplement product is permissible.

MuZI
01-01-2006, 07:41 AM
Hmm, I hope it's lower than $30 on bb.com

$50+ is a bit much.

Edit: Want me to delete my post so your placeholders are linear?

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:42 AM
"Unofficial" GlycerGrow™ FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
by pt@controlledlabs.com

I've seen the "official" GlycerGrow™ write-up HERE (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228372&postcount=1)... now when can I purchase it ?


It should be available @ retailers by Jan 15th, 2006

Where can I purchase GlycerGrow™ and how much will it cost ?


Internet retailers will have the best prices (around $30 to $35):
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/clabs.htm

What does GlycerGrow™ taste like ?


GlycerGrow™ is a UNFLAVORED powder with a flaky texture and a neutral taste. This means that you can mix / customize GlycerGrow™ with one of the following:

Gatorade Liquid
Gatorade Powder
Flavored BCAA Powder
Orange Juice
Fruit Punch
Black Star Labs flavoring system
Other favorite beverage

Does GlycerGrow™ dissolve when I mix it ?


No. GlycerGrow™ does NOT dissolve, so the texture takes some getting used to. Many people find that the easiest way to consume it is to simply put the powder in their mouth and chase it down with a large glass of their favorite beverage.

How many servings per bottle ?


120

How many grams per scoop ?


2.77

How many scoops per serving ?


3

How many grams per serving ?


8.33

How many servings per workout ?


1 Serving... or 1 to 4 scoops
Please refer to the Initial Dosing Instructions and directions for use instead of the Serving size.


So... how many days will each bottle last ?


It should easily last more than 120 days

Should I only take GlycerGrow on workout days ?


This is what I recommend.. yes

Can I take GlycerGrow™ pre AND post-workout ?


For best results, take it pre, during, and post-workout as directed

Should I take GlycerGrow™ prior to cardio ?


Results will vary, but yes cardio can be considered a "workout" so a cardio day is technically not a "off day" in my opinion. You may need to experiment with the dosage for cardio days.

For best results, take it pre, during and post-workout as directed

Is GlycerGrow™ for men or women ?


Both

Is GlycerGrow™ for cutting or bulking ?


Both

Is GlycerGrow™ for strength gains or size gains ?


Both

Can GlycerGrow™ be micronized like creatine?


Good question... what I can tell you for sure is that by using a $15 coffee grinder it can easily be "powdered"...within seconds. I use a small Hamilton Beach (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000A1FFNG.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg) model on the "Fine" setting... I can't believe how quickly it turns anything into powder... including oats !

It still doesn't dissolve, so keep that in mind.

Where can I learn more about Taurine ?


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=180120
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/taurine.html


Is glycerine = glycerol ?


Yes

Where can I learn more about Glycerol / Glycerine ?


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581

What is Hyperhydration / Cell Volumization ?


Water constitutes 45–70% of body weight

Adipose tissue is (approx) 10% water

Muscle tissue is (approx) 75% water

A person's total body water varies by body composition

Muscle water and glycogen content parallel each other

It's possible to increase the amount of fluid in the body by drinking extra water, but the kidneys remove most of it within an hour. That's where glycerol comes in. Adding glycerol to the water can prolong the period of hyperhydration for up to four hours.

So what can cell volumization do for muscle growth ?


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329

So what can cell volumization do for strength ?


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329

Does GlycerGrow™ replace proper nutrition and training ?


No

What happens when I stop using GlycerGrow™ ?


Like most supplements, when you quit using it, you will notice a difference. This is why it's important that your nutrition and training are solid, because the cell volumization and osmotic effects of GlycerGrow™ only enhance a already solid routine.

I'm on a carb-cycling diet... is GlycerGrow™ a good option for me ?


GlycerGrow™ is a great option for carb-cyclers. If you are cutting and carb cycling, I also recommend Red Acid™

What "basic" / minimum supplements do you recommend while taking GlycerGrow™ ?



A quality Multivitamin, such as NOW A.D.A.M
Whey Protein (pre and post-workout)
A creatine product such as Green Bulge (pre-workout)
A inexpensive creatine product such as Creapure / CEE (post-workout)
BCAA (Branched Chain Amino Acids) Pre-workout / During-Training (I recommend MRM BCAA 2.2lb)
Fishoil
At LEAST 1 to 2 gallons of water per day


Besides the "basic" supplements listed above, what "other" ergogenics, compounds, or supplements do you recommend to maximize my results while on GlycerGrow™ ?


Beta-Alanine (such as Bodyoctane)
Nitric Oxide (pre-workout) such as White Blood
Ergogenic (pre-workout) such as Red Acid or Amp
Nootropic (pre-workout) such as Red Acid or Powerjolt


I'm on medication, should I take GlycerGrow™ ?


Ask your doctor before taking GlycerGrow™

I have a health condition, should I take GlycerGrow™ ?


Ask your doctor before taking GlycerGrow™

Is it necessary to cycle GlycerGrow™ ?


This depends on many variables, but if using it as a standalone, we generally recommend that you cycle off GlycerGrow™ every 6 to 12 weeks

When starting GlycerGrow™, should I "taper" up the dosage to assess my tolerance to GlycerGrow™?


Yes. This is a very good idea

When cycling off of GlycerGrow™, should I "taper" down the dosage ?


This is not required

What are some good indications that I'm getting results with GlycerGrow™ ?


Mirror / Appearance
Measurements
Bodyfat caliper
Bodyweight

I workout in the evening / before bedtime, is there anything I should know ?


VERY good question. It's possible that you may experience frequent / urgent urination after your workout (this depends on many variables). This can be a problem if working out at night, so if this occurs, adjust GlycerGrow™ dosage as needed.

Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Green Bulge™ ?


Yes

Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Blue Up™ (Stim Free)


Yes

Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Blue Up™ (Original)


Yes

Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Red Acid™ (Original)


Yes. This is a great stack

What should I know about GlycerGrow™ and Fatloss ?


We know that glycerol can improve endurance and stamina, but in my opinion there is also evidence to suggest that glycerol supplementation has the potential to enhance fatloss more directly.

For more details:

Glycerine / Glycerol and Fatloss:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8239448&postcount=229

What are some possible side effects of GlycerGrow ?


nausea, dizziness, headaches, or gastrointestinal disturbances

Consuming this product without a sufficient water intake may cause dehydration


Why is this a "unofficial" FAQ ?


Because some of the information being discussed is for educational purposes only

I've read this FAQ completely and all the links provided. I still have a question or concern.. what should I do ?


Please E-Mail me:
pt@controlledlabs.com and I'll get back to you as soon as possible

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 08:41 AM
Taurine

Description

Taurine is an amino acid found throughout the body, but chiefly in nerve tissue and muscle. It is thought to help regulate heartbeat and muscle contractions, water balance, energy levels and levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. The body normally makes all the taurine that it needs, so supplements are typically not required. However, taurine is sometimes considered to be a "conditionally essential" amino acid - meaning that under certain conditions, such as physical exertion, disease or injury, the body may not be able to synthesize enough taurine to meet demands. Although newborn babies cannot synthesize taurine, healthy adults make their own out of other amino acids (using vitamin B6 in the conversion of either cysteine or methionine to taurine). The best dietary sources of taurine are protein foods such as meat, poultry, eggs, dairy, and fish. Beans and nuts, which are rich sources of protein, do not contain taurine, but they do contain methionine and cysteine (which can be made into taurine by the body).

Claims

· Increases physical endurance and reaction speed
· Increases concentration and mental alertness (stay awake)
· Improves overall feeling of well being
· Strengthens heart muscle (Congestive Heart Failure)
· Prevents Cataracts
· Reduces Blood Pressure
· Enhances water balance and nutrient uptake in muscle cells ("cell-volumizing")
· Aids hydration before/during exercise (used in sports drinks)

Theory

Taurine is the second most abundant amino acid in the muscle amino acid pool (after glutamine) - so the door is open for claims to be made for a wide variety of potential physiological and metabolic functions. Cellular depletion of taurine has been linked to developmental defects, retinal damage, immunodeficiency, impaired cellular growth and the development of a cardiomyopathy. These findings have encouraged the use of taurine in infant formula, nutritional supplements and energy promoting drinks. It is theorized that periods of stress, both physical and mental, can deplete body levels of taurine and increase overall taurine requirements. Taurine is also theorized to have "cell volumizing" effects similar to (or synergistic with) creatine, whereby it may help boost cell hydration and result in a higher rate of protein synthesis. These effects of taurine to enhance the water content of cells has been used in various sports drinks to enhance their effects in warding-off dehydration during exercise in the heat. Taurine is also considered to be a mild inhibitory neurotransmitter, with some evidence of effectiveness in treating epilepsy and other excitable brain states. This last effect (as a form of sedative) would appear to go against the primary use of taurine in energy drinks and mental performance cocktails, but the overall effect could be due more to a "balancing" effect on nerve impulses, but this has yet to be demonstrated. Finally, taurine is frequently recommended as a supplement for promoting "heart health" because of the low taurine levels observed in patients following heart attacks. In this regard, taurine appears to offer potential in the treatment of arrhythmia (abnormal heartbeat) and reducing blood pressure, but the doses are relatively high at 2-6 grams per day. Other proposed uses for taurine stimulation of immune function, treatment of cataracts, alleviation of mild depression and improvement in male fertility - though none of these is very well substantiated.

Scientific Support

For the most frequent use of taurine in dietary supplements (energy levels and mental performance), the most popular product (Red Bull Energy Drink) has a handful of studies behind it. The Red Bull mixture of taurine, caffeine and glucuronolactone has been shown to increase alertness and maintain reaction time and feelings of well-being (as the placebo group gets sleepy later into the night). These effects appear to be due to more than just the caffeine content (which is about the same as a cup of coffee at 80mg/250ml), but whether or not the effects are due to the taurine, the sugar or something else in the drink is still a question mark.

The other places that we see a lot of taurine use in supplements these days are in combination with creatine in muscle building products. Red Bull and others use taurine for its alleged effects in modulating neurotransmitter release (a theoretical effect), while other supplement companies use taurine for its effects in regulating water balance and enhancing the effects of creatine supplementation (some of the body-building companies refer to this as a muscle "volumizing" effect). The enhanced water content of muscle cells may even provide a hydration and performance benefit to endurance athletes exercising in the heat.

Taurine also has some data for benefits in treating certain forms of heart malfunction such as Congestive Heart Failure (higher doses of 2-6 grams/day over 4 weeks). This effect most likely has more to do with correcting either generalized malnutrition or an underlying metabolic dysfunction in synthesizing taurine than any actual performance effect that would transfer to healthy people (and other supplements such as Coenzyme Q10 and Carnitine have more powerful effects in this regard). There are at least three mechanisms that could account for the beneficial effect of taurine in heart health. First, taurine has actions in regulating water balance via the kidneys and may help to normalize both salt and water balance following exercise and during heart failure. Second, taurine is known to modulate nerve conduction by regulating electrolyte flux. Third, taurine appears to attenuate the actions of angiotensin II - acting somewhat like an ACE inhibitor to reduce blood pressure.

Taurine (6 grams/day) has also been shown to significantly reduce urinary norepinephrine excretion, which implies a suppression of the sympathetic nervous system. This effect could be theorized to contribute to an "anti-stress" benefit, though any direct anti-stress effects have not been specifically documented.

Safety

Taurine supplementation has been examined at levels up to several grams per day (at least 6 grams/day) with no apparent adverse side effects. A not of caution should be made regarding the growing popularity of using taurine-based energy drinks as a "mixer" for alcoholic beverages. Such concoctions are widely believed (by the users) to induce a feeling of energy and euphoria, while "counteracting" the depressive effects of alcohol (which is completely false). There have been case reports of individuals attempting to drive following consumption of alcohol mixed with energy drinks - and it needs to be emphasized that neither the taurine nor the caffeine has the ability to alleviate the intoxicant effects of the alcohol (if you're drunk, these drinks do not make you sober)!

Value

Among the popular taurine-containing energy drinks, key claims center around "feeling awake in body and mind" - certainly a valuable benefit for most people. There does appear to be an "energetic" benefit delivered to people using these drinks in situations such as long (sleep-inducing) drives and in feelings of well-being when staying up late. Whether or not taurine offers any direct performance enhancement with regard to athletic activities is debatable.

Since the body can make its own taurine under most conditions (out of B6, methionine and cysteine), the argument can be made that supplementation is unnecessary. However, taurine deficiencies have been documented in vegans (strict vegetarians) and in diabetics and sub-optimal levels have been theorized to occur in people under high levels of emotional or physical stress.

Dosage

Multi-gram doses of taurine have been used in studies of heart function (up to 6 grams per day). Smaller doses (500-1500mg/day) have been used in studies of brain function (epilepsy). Typical commercial doses found in energy drinks are generally in the range or 50-100mg.
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pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 08:42 AM
References

1. De Curtis M, Santamaria F, Er****ni P, Vittoria L, De Ritis G, Garofalo V, Ciccimarra F. Effect of taurine supplementation on fat and energy absorption
in cystic fibrosis. Arch Dis Child. 1992 Sep;67(9):1082-5.

2. Greubel S. Isotonic beverages, "energy" and "power" drinks. Med Monatsschr Pharm. 1998 Nov;21(11):353-5.

3. Laidlaw SA, Shultz TD, Cecchino JT, Kopple JD. Plasma and urine taurine levels in vegans. Am J Clin Nutr. 1988 Apr;47(4):660-3.

4. Michalk DV, Tittor F, Ringeisen R, Deeg KH, Bohles H. The development of heart and brain function in low-birth-weight infants fed with taurine-supplemented formula. Adv Exp Med Biol. 1987;217:139-45.

5. Mizushima S, Nara Y, Sawamura M, Yamori Y. Effects of oral taurine supplementation on lipids and sympathetic nerve tone. Adv Exp Med Biol. 1996;403:615-22.

6. Rana SK, Sanders TA. Taurine concentrations in the diet, plasma, urine and breast milk of vegans compared with omnivores. Br J Nutr. 1986 Jul;56(1):17-27.

7. Riesselmann B, Rosenbaum F, Schneider V. Alcohol and energy drink--can combined consumption of both beverages modify automobile driving fitness? Blutalkohol. 1996 Jul;33(4):201-8.

8. Schaffer SW, Lombardini JB, Azuma J. Interaction between the actions of taurine and angiotensin II. Amino Acids. 2000;18(4):305-18.

9. Seidl R, Peyrl A, Nicham R, Hauser E. A taurine and caffeine-containing drink stimulates cognitive performance and well-being. Amino Acids. 2000;19(3-4):635-42.

10. Sole MJ, Jeejeebhoy KN. Conditioned nutritional requirements and the pathogenesis and treatment of myocardial failure. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2000 Nov;3(6):417-24.

11. Suleiman MS. New concepts in the cardioprotective action of magnesium and taurine during the calcium paradox and ischaemia of the heart. Magnes Res. 1994 Dec;7(3-4):295-312.

12. van Gelder NM. Brain taurine content as a function of cerebral metabolic rate: osmotic regulation of glucose derived water production. Neurochem Res. 1989 Jun;14(6):495-7.
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beau_zo_brehm
01-01-2006, 11:18 AM
The impermissable/permissable list just refers to what universities can and can't give to their student-athletes. the student athlete can still purchase and use the substances on the impermissable list..

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 11:29 AM
The impermissable/permissable list just refers to what universities can and can't give to their student-athletes. the student athlete can still purchase and use the substances on the impermissable list..

beau_zo_brehm,

Athletes can purchase anything they want. The problem isn't with glycerol itself, but with the previous (flip-flopping) classification of glycerol as a diuretic, or diuretic related compound. Our warning is there to give a "heads up" to athletes so that they can clear it with their own organization if needed.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8229001&postcount=22
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228976&postcount=21

I hope that helps :)

beau_zo_brehm
01-01-2006, 11:31 AM
beau_zo_brehm,

Athletes can purchase anything they want. The problem isn't with glycerol itself, but with the previous (flip-flopping) classification of glycerol as a diuretic, or diuretic related compound. Our warning is there to give a "heads up" to athletes so that they can clear it with their own organization if needed.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8229001&postcount=22
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228976&postcount=21

I hope that helps :)

Thanks.. so we're technically not sure whether or not glycerol is banned, but there is a good chance because of it's classification as a diuretic.

C-Los 21
01-01-2006, 11:32 AM
No one does a write-up like PT...Great job, very clear and detailed!

CONTROLLED LABS
01-01-2006, 11:50 AM
Hmm, I hope it's lower than $30 on bb.com

$50+ is a bit much.

Edit: Want me to delete my post so your placeholders are linear?
should be around 30-35 bucks on bodybuilding.com for 120 servings.

PT you are awesome, thanks for geting this up. :)

40-Yard Dash_2
01-01-2006, 11:54 AM
should be around 30-35 bucks on bodybuilding.com for 120 servings.

PT you are awesome, thanks for geting this up. :)
Tank, this calls for a serious pay raise for PURE.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-01-2006, 11:54 AM
here is the label.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-01-2006, 11:55 AM
Tank, this calls for a serious pay raise for PURE.
he's worth his weight in oats :D

Mister_A
01-01-2006, 11:57 AM
The name is finally out.

Great new product CL.

BigNorwegian
01-01-2006, 11:57 AM
During a cutting (calorie deficit/fat loss) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Red Acid™ and Green Bulge™ to keep workout intensity levels high. GlycerGrow™ may also help minimize cramping. As an added bonus, GlycerGrow™ appears to have little impact on insulin and blood sugar levels.


I am looking foward to see how this will aid with my calves. I am an advid snowboarder and my lead leg always cramps up in the calf. When I say always, I mean ALWAYS. I hope this will releave some of my cramping. I will make sure to keep note of this during my snowboard trips. I have a major trip comming up from the 13th - 18th of Jan.(Colorado) as well as one during Feburary.(Whyoming) I'll keep everyone posted!

BigNorg

Beast
01-01-2006, 12:04 PM
here is the label.

Interesting. I have used Omega Thunder before, which has 2000 mg Glycerol, but I've never used a high dose of it before.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 12:05 PM
I've never used a high dose of it before.

With both Glycerol and Taurine It pretty important to individualize your dose, based on many variables including:

- Bodyweight / Lean Muscle mass
- Goals
- Hydration
- Training

fit coach
01-01-2006, 12:08 PM
Interesting. I have used Omega Thunder before, which has 2000 mg Glycerol, but I've never used a high dose of it before.

I think NoXplode has glycerol in it as well.


Whats the advantage of this product over bulk glycerol?

dtrain13
01-01-2006, 12:13 PM
With both Glycerol and Taurine It pretty important to individualize your dose, based on many variables including:

- Bodyweight / Lean Muscle mass
- Goals
- Hydration
- Training


Solid product fellas. Will be on my list to of things to purchase. Also I can confirm that hydration is very key to using GMS as well as Taurine as I've used both indiviually and in concert at high doses and water consumption is crutial.


O/T: Paul I still would like to apologize for my actions the other day. It was a long Christmas weekend for me.

Happy New Year my friend. :)

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 12:25 PM
The name is finally out.

Great new product CL.

Thanks man...we are very excited about it !!

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 12:27 PM
Solid product fellas. Will be on my list to of things to purchase. Also I can confirm that hydration is very key to using GMS as well as Taurine as I've used both indiviually and in concert at high doses and water consumption is crutial.

O/T: Paul I still would like to apologize for my actions the other day. It was a long Christmas weekend for me.

Happy New Year my friend. :)

No hard feelings whatsoever man. You are a inspiration to us all in my opinion.

Thanks for helping to spread the word regarding hydration.... water is free.. I can't believe how many guys don't understand the numerous ways that hydration (and cell volumizers) can enhance their goals !

turbos10
01-01-2006, 12:31 PM
Nice write up Pure. I am excited about getting this product on the shelves. After trying to find glycerol recently it became clear that there was a void in the market for an affordable taurine/glycerol product.

Great work!

Hey Tank.....how 'bout a "test sample"? ;)

njfreeweight
01-01-2006, 12:38 PM
looks like a great product,, i would love to test it,,keep it goin CL

DejaBlue55
01-01-2006, 12:59 PM
Is it going to be hard to get down like bulk GMS powder?

Yes, I saw the part that says it doesn't mix well, just wondering if it might be any easier somehow than the bulk?

Thanks PU.

Nathan1
01-01-2006, 01:11 PM
this stuff looks GREAT!! i'll definately be buyin this stuff when it comes out and i hear some feedback! $30-35 for 120+ doses?!?! that's awesome! most people need to remember, one COULD possibly respond with 2/3 scoops, thus making the product last 40 more doses! sheesh, this seems cheap.

good job CL!!

BiggJohn
01-01-2006, 01:16 PM
- Improve thermoregulation and endurance

Is thermoregulation a word? Are you talking about body temperature control?

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 01:18 PM
Is thermoregulation a word? Are you talking about body temperature control?

Thermoregulation:


Maintenance of a constant internal body temperature independent from the environmental temperature

BiggJohn
01-01-2006, 01:20 PM
Thermoregulation:


Maintenance of a constant internal body temperature independent from the environmental temperature

Ahh right, I've never heard it refered to like that.

DejaBlue55
01-01-2006, 01:21 PM
Is it going to be hard to get down like bulk GMS powder?

Yes, I saw the part that says it doesn't mix well, just wondering if it might be any easier somehow than the bulk?

Thanks PU.
Swallowing the bulk GMS is like trying to take 3 animal paks at once time with a dixie cup full of water.

Even after coffee grinding it.

BigNorwegian
01-01-2006, 01:43 PM
Swallowing the bulk GMS is like trying to take 3 animal paks at once time with a dixie cup full of water.

Even after coffee grinding it.

Pshhh thats nothing! :p Actually I was able to take Animal Pak with no water, though it really isnt anything to be proud of. As long as it doesn't taste like GNC Vanilla Whey, I'll be able to get it down no problem.

Pu, why did you guys decide to not flavor this product?

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 01:45 PM
Pu, why did you guys decide to not flavor this product?

1. Cost

2. Unflavored gives you the ability to flavor it / mix it with whatever flavor you want

3. Unflavored gives you the ability to mix it with your whey shake

4. Other

cxm
01-01-2006, 01:48 PM
2. Unflavored gives you the ability to flavor it / mix it with whatever flavor you want



Do you think BSL flavoring would be a good option?

LAWofNJ
01-01-2006, 01:48 PM
I dunno, i just put GMS in Orange Juice or Apple juice, and i barely taste the GMS at all whatsoever. Although it is flaky.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 01:49 PM
Do you think BSL flavoring would be a good option?

Definately.. especially the fruit punch flavor (I find that it's very potent).

Nathan1
01-01-2006, 01:53 PM
4. Other

LOL.


Swallowing the bulk GMS is like trying to take 3 animal paks at once time with a dixie cup full of water.

Even after coffee grinding it.

*wipes tear from eye* :D

seriously though, sometimes i'll just put it in a bottle of water and drink it. it's easier than oats.

Nathan1
01-01-2006, 01:54 PM
Definately.. especially the fruit punch flavor (I find that it's very potent).

and yummy. :D

BigNorwegian
01-01-2006, 02:02 PM
1. Cost

2. Unflavored gives you the ability to flavor it / mix it with whatever flavor you want

3. Unflavored gives you the ability to mix it with your whey shake

4. Other

Thanks, make sense. Just wanted to make sure that there aren't any types of sweetners ect that would perhaps disrupt the effects and absrobtion process.

Safe to mix with high acidic drinks I presume? (I believe the creatine + OJ myth is nonsense)

Thanks Pu,
BigNorg

Madevilz
01-01-2006, 02:11 PM
Is it hard to dissolve GMS in water?

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Is it hard to dissolve GMS in water?


Initial (First Serving) Instructions:


To assess your individual tolerance, combine 1-2 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it about 30 minutes before your workout. Shake well before drinking (powder DOES NOT dissolve well in liquid).

Directions For Usage:


Combine 1 - 4 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it over an extended period of time (pre-workout, during your workout, and post-workout). Shake well before drinking (powder does not dissolve well in liquid). For best results, GlycerGrow™ should be used in combination with Controlled Labs’ Green Bulge™, at least 1-2 gallons of water per day, a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a hypertrophy/volume training workout protocol.

Please help to spread the word :D

Madevilz
01-01-2006, 02:17 PM
:eek:

CONTROLLED LABS
01-01-2006, 02:28 PM
Is it going to be hard to get down like bulk GMS powder?

Yes, I saw the part that says it doesn't mix well, just wondering if it might be any easier somehow than the bulk?

Thanks PU.
gms will never mix "well". I think it is slighlty better than bulk becuase of the blend, but dont think it will blend like cool aid :)

DejaBlue55
01-01-2006, 02:32 PM
Is it hard to dissolve GMS in water?
No, it's not hard. It's impossible.

DejaBlue55
01-01-2006, 02:33 PM
gms will never mix "well". I think it is slighlty better than bulk becuase of the blend, but dont think it will blend like cool aid :)
I know what ya mean man, just didn't know if ya'll had some special process or something, CL is usually ahead of the curve so I wouldn't have been surprised. :D:D I expect great things from a great company... :D You the man tank.

sean4104
01-01-2006, 02:40 PM
man i really gotta start drinking more water. i definitely saw a massive change in volumization this summer when i was drinking like two gallons a day...its a hard habit to get into, but from what youve posted it seems as though its of utmost importance.

ive got some glycerol from custom, and theres no flavor...so i dont mind chomping down on some flakes before my workout. i still have yet to try a controlled labs product, maybe this will be the first. great write up man, reps.

ps...where did you go to school and what was ur concentration?

nick912
01-01-2006, 03:09 PM
outstanding CL! Still need testers for this?

Norwegian Man
01-01-2006, 03:14 PM
Thermoregulation:


Maintenance of a constant internal body temperature independent from the environmental temperature

any chance of getting a freebee sample?

BiggJohn
01-01-2006, 05:33 PM
Looks similiar to MT's new product GAKIC.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 05:37 PM
Looks similiar to MT's new product GAKIC.

No...

BiggJohn
01-01-2006, 05:38 PM
No...


Hmmmm....

dtrain13
01-01-2006, 05:39 PM
Looks similiar to MT's new product GAKIC.
Not even close.

m1canes29
01-01-2006, 05:46 PM
so is this just a cell volumizer or does it promote strength increase?

Togoro
01-01-2006, 05:46 PM
Looks like a real solid product.

Controlled Labs has finally released something that's really grabbed my attention!*

That's an awesome price too. I think i'm gonna most definitely be adding this to my next PCT!


*Not knocking CL, but I don't respond to Creatines or Thermos, and never really saw a need for an NO product.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 05:47 PM
so is this just a cell volumizer or does it promote strength increase?

Both.. if used correctly

Endurance / Stamina also


Controlled Labs has finally released something that's really grabbed my attention!*

:D The ultimate compliment

m1canes29
01-01-2006, 05:51 PM
if I use this product could I still use CEE with it or omega thunder even though it contains 2gs of glcyerol already? (spelling of glycerol)

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 05:52 PM
if I use this product could I still use CEE with it or omega thunder even though it contains 2gs of glcyerol already? (spelling of glycerol)

Yes you could... once you are 18 :D

It is designed to be stacked with creatine. Using it without creatine would not be optimal.

BiggJohn
01-01-2006, 05:53 PM
Not even close.

We can't say that just yet big guy. I know some people who actually love Gakic BTW, but I'll admit I've flamed MT my fair share.

dtrain13
01-01-2006, 05:56 PM
We can't say that just yet big guy. I know some people who actually love Gakic BTW, but I'll admit I've flamed MT my fair share.


I may be lost on this but I thought you were comparing the two products based on ingredient profiles and if thats the case they are not even in the same ballpark IMO.

Edit: LOL at my ability to spell.....lossed HA! :D

cxm
01-01-2006, 06:00 PM
Pu, can GMS be micronized like creatine? Or is the process to expensive? :confused:

m1canes29
01-01-2006, 06:00 PM
is this on bb.com store yet for all those people whoa re cough cough over cough cough 18? =]

BiggJohn
01-01-2006, 06:01 PM
I may be lossed on this but I thought you were comparing the two products based on ingredient profiles and if thats the case they are not even in the same ballpark IMO.

No, not on ingredient profiles, I agree with that. Thinking more intended mechanism.

redvision
01-01-2006, 06:03 PM
Look forward to this product...

Great job CL!

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 06:04 PM
Pu, can GMS be micronized like creatine? Or is the process to expensive? :confused:

Good question... what I can tell you for sure is that by using a $15 coffee grinder it can easily be "powdered"...within seconds. I use a small hamilton Beach model on the "Fine" setting... I can't believe how quickly it turns anything into powder... including oats !

It still doesn't dissolve, so keep that in mind.

<img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000A1FFNG.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg">

Rollem7778
01-01-2006, 06:06 PM
Man, the best way I have found is to take a spoon, scoop it out and take. I don't even put it in water or anything just because it doesn't dissolve. It really just has no taste. Then I chew it up. It's not too bad.

flokmania
01-01-2006, 07:07 PM
After the first handful of uses, will I become tolerant and need to up the dose?

Cuz I usually have to do that for everthing except protein, multi, and creatine.

Mr. Aries
01-01-2006, 07:07 PM
okay.. red acid was good, this is so much better.. How do I go about being sponsored by controlled labs? I think I can do a good job :D :p



bizzump

Mr. Aries
01-01-2006, 07:09 PM
After the first handful of uses, will I become tolerant and need to up the dose?

Cuz I usually have to do that for everthing except protein, multi, and creatine.


no sir.. nothing to get "tolerant" on.. no need to up the dose..

G.W. Hayduke
01-01-2006, 07:13 PM
Good question... what I can tell you for sure is that by using a $15 coffee grinder it can easily be "powdered"...within seconds. I use a small hamilton Beach model on the "Fine" setting... I can't believe how quickly it turns anything into powder... including oats !

It still doesn't dissolve, so keep that in mind.

Haha, that's exactly what I did with my bulk GMS flakes. But yeah, the stuff is the texture of candle wax and does not dissolve.

EDIT: PU, you've had a pretty big hand in designing the last 2 prods right?

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:15 PM
PU, you've had a pretty big hand in designing the last 2 prods right?

Correct

cxm
01-01-2006, 07:17 PM
Haha, that's exactly what I did with my bulk GMS flakes. But yeah, the stuff is the texture of candle wax and does not dissolve.

EDIT: PU, you've had a pretty big hand in designing the last 2 prods right?

Hmm.... I wonder if exposing it to heat, might help to disolve. But will the heat affect its chemical structurE?

Mr. Aries
01-01-2006, 07:18 PM
Hmm.... I wonder if exposing it to heat, might help to disolve. But will the heat affect its chemical structurE?


just don't even bother putting it in liquid.. I just put it in a spoon and shove it in my mouth.. drink some water.. repeat...

Mr. Aries
01-01-2006, 07:25 PM
Nice write up Pure. I am excited about getting this product on the shelves. After trying to find glycerol recently it became clear that there was a void in the market for an affordable taurine/glycerol product.

Great work!

Hey Tank.....how 'bout a "test sample"? ;)

how about you ask your manager to do the talking? :D

Jsorb8997
01-01-2006, 07:26 PM
Looks awesome...two really cheap yet effective ingredients.

MuZI
01-01-2006, 07:26 PM
just don't even bother putting it in liquid.. I just put it in a spoon and shove it in my mouth.. drink some water.. repeat...

Some of us don't have the stamina you do John.

G.W. Hayduke
01-01-2006, 07:36 PM
Correct
It shows, especially with this last one. Good, simple, and effective blend. Hopefully Bill will let me do some product designs soon. I've got some great ideas!

Anyways, good work.

MyTMouse
01-01-2006, 07:38 PM
this looks like its gonna be pretty sweet. I'm out of CEE, so I'll have to get more.

I use a little creatine mono, and a little CEE at the same time usually, so I will probably continue that while doing my GlycerGrow log.

I'm pretty pumped about this. really looking forward to it, especially with this being my first log, and all.

thegenerel
01-01-2006, 07:44 PM
so how many spoonfuls does this require to meet an entire serving?

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:46 PM
so how many spoonfuls does this require to meet an entire serving?

Good question.. and the answer might be confusing.

3 Scoops = 1 Serving

Recommended servings = 1 to 4 scoops

MyTMouse
01-01-2006, 07:47 PM
so how many spoonfuls does this require to meet an entire serving?

think it comes with a scoop. 3 scoops is the measured serving amount.

if you are talking about an estimate as far as teaspoons are concerned, I'm not sure, but if I had to make a guess, based on the ingredients I'd say it's probably in the neighborhood of 2 teaspoons.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:48 PM
Hopefully, consumers will focus on the actual instructions and not just on the Serving Size :p

MyTMouse
01-01-2006, 07:49 PM
Hopefully, consumers will focus on the actual instructions and not just on the Serving Size :p

that's preferable, eh? :D

MyTMouse
01-01-2006, 07:51 PM
hey pure, dunno if this is really the place to ask, but in reference to the testers:

I know you have a few different groups, and I'm just using Glycergrow. Does this mean that you guys don't want us using any of the CL other supplements (green bulge, white blood) during our log period?

I didn't know if you were trying to achieve a kind of "experimental control" here, or whether you just wanted to get the word out. thanks.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:53 PM
hey pure, dunno if this is really the place to ask, but in reference to the testers:

I know you have a few different groups, and I'm just using Glycergrow. Does this mean that you guys don't want us using any of the CL other supplements (green bulge, white blood) during our log period?

No.. that's fine

We only ask that you don't make major modifications to your nutrition, supplementation, or routine before / during the log / review.

MyTMouse
01-01-2006, 07:55 PM
No.. that's fine

We only ask that you don't make major modifications to your nutrition, supplementation, or routine before / during the log / review.

thought it would be, but wasn't sure. was considering using green bulge in place of the bulk CEE. I'm just not sure yet.

thanks.

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 07:58 PM
thought it would be, but wasn't sure. was considering using green bulge in place of the bulk CEE. I'm just not sure yet.

thanks.

If you do that, it might be good to start using them at different times, so you can determine the effects of each product.

Green Bulge + GlycerGrow is a awesome stack though.. for numerous reasons.

MyTMouse
01-01-2006, 08:01 PM
If you do that, it might be good to start using them at different times, so you can determine the effects of each product.

Green Bulge + GlycerGrow is a awesome stack though.. for numerous reasons.

I'll just add the GlycerGrow to what I'm already takin'. Just stick with everything I've already got. Then after I'm done with my log, maybe I'll try some Green Bulge.

Thanks for all the advice pure.

One last question: When should testers expect product?

thanks again.

thegenerel
01-01-2006, 08:03 PM
when will Grow be on bb.com? im ready to order some!

pu12en12g
01-01-2006, 08:06 PM
I'll just add the GlycerGrow to what I'm already takin'. Just stick with everything I've already got. Then after I'm done with my log, maybe I'll try some Green Bulge.

Thanks for all the advice pure.

One last question: When should testers expect product?

thanks again.

Tank will update the tester thread when it ships out... should be this week.

FACETHEFACTS706
01-01-2006, 08:32 PM
Im very excited about being selected as a tester...Cant wait to get a log/review of this product up...Green Bulge and Glycer Grow seem like two solid products..Im never done a log before and am excited about getting my first one up with controlled labs products..I plan on making my log as detailed as possible and answering any questions anyone has on how i feel, pumps, etc of the two products combined together..


Thanks in Advance

Anthony

kendog
01-01-2006, 08:36 PM
Based on my experience... GB + GG (Green Bulge + GlycerGrow) should be a FREAKSHOW pump stack!

Xeric
01-01-2006, 08:43 PM
I also look forward to taking Green Bulge and GlycerGrow and doing my first product log. Thanks again for selecting me. = )

alka8
01-01-2006, 10:51 PM
Can't wait to use this!!

I was confused initially at the serving size as well. I really hope consumers figure it out. Maybe you should put the initial testing dosage in red :p jk.

Cheers,
alka8

kendog
01-01-2006, 11:01 PM
Can't wait to use this!!

I was confused initially at the serving size as well. I really hope consumers figure it out. Maybe you should put the initial testing dosage in red :p jk.

Cheers,
alka8

I'm sure the bottle will be clear. Everyone drink about 1+ liters of water while working out when you take this stuff. That's what I recommend, but I think you'll naturally want to drink that much anyways when taking this fine producT!

kingcarlos
01-01-2006, 11:03 PM
hmm i wonder how much bulk GMS cost on BN or other sites. 50++ is abit too much, considering it only have around 4 main ingriedients in it

jmil
01-01-2006, 11:05 PM
hmm i wonder how much bulk GMS cost on BN or other sites. 50++ is abit too much, considering it only have around 4 main ingriedients in it


That's retail, which means it will be that price on their site. It won't be that price at bb.com or any other website besides CL.

BTW, I'll be ordering....whether it's the same price as bulk or not, I like the cool colors :)

dp13368
01-01-2006, 11:07 PM
beau_zo_brehm,

Athletes can purchase anything they want. The problem isn't with glycerol itself, but with the previous (flip-flopping) classification of glycerol as a diuretic, or diuretic related compound. Our warning is there to give a "heads up" to athletes so that they can clear it with their own organization if needed.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8229001&postcount=22
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228976&postcount=21

I hope that helps :)

Just FYI for anyone else who is interested in taking this and is a college athlete.

It looks like it is OK as glycerol is not listed as one of the diuretics banned, found here:

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/banned_drug_classes.pdf

kingcarlos
01-02-2006, 01:21 AM
That's retail, which means it will be that price on their site. It won't be that price at bb.com or any other website besides CL.

BTW, I'll be ordering....whether it's the same price as bulk or not, I like the cool colors :)
haha nice. but i guess ppl below 18 is unsuitable for GMS

pu12en12g
01-02-2006, 01:24 AM
haha nice. but i guess ppl below 18 is unsuitable for GMS

It's not that you are unsuitable :D

I just don't recommend our products to anyone under the age of 18 for liability reasons. If you do purchase it, please check with your parents first.

kingcarlos
01-02-2006, 01:27 AM
oh icic. my mum is fine with it. im pretty careful with my supplementation now. only creatine mono and some other essential sups. Gb is gonna be my 1st CEE alike supps

CONTROLLED LABS
01-02-2006, 07:50 AM
when will Grow be on bb.com? im ready to order some!
we will be shipping to bb.com tomorrow, so they should have it friday and have it up on their site by next monday.

We will start shipping to testers on Thursday so testers should have it early next week.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-02-2006, 07:53 AM
hmm i wonder how much bulk GMS cost on BN or other sites. 50++ is abit too much, considering it only have around 4 main ingriedients in it
bb.com (and all other sites) should have it for 30-35 dollars.

pu12en12g
01-02-2006, 10:10 AM
i still have yet to try a controlled labs product, maybe this will be the first. great write up man, reps.

ps...where did you go to school and what was ur concentration?

My background is: Military / Information Technology / Computer Science / Fitness / Nutrition

More about me: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=656557

amjzzz
01-02-2006, 12:03 PM
This is great. I've been buying Cre-ethyl thunder just to get the GMS. I respond well to bulk CEE, so was sorta wasting my money on a designer creatine just for the GMS. Looks like it's going to be very affordable, and probably gonna be a staple supp. Also the taurine is nice... I get some kind of brain buzz response from taurine.

beau_zo_brehm
01-02-2006, 02:23 PM
This is great. I've been buying Cre-ethyl thunder just to get the GMS. I respond well to bulk CEE, so was sorta wasting my money on a designer creatine just for the GMS. Looks like it's going to be very affordable, and probably gonna be a staple supp. Also the taurine is nice... I get some kind of brain buzz response from taurine.

you could have just bought bulk cee and bulk gms..

turbos10
01-02-2006, 05:19 PM
Got my order in for Glycergrow for the gym today. I will let ya'll know how it is when I give a try on Friday :D.
I can't wait.

LAWofNJ
01-02-2006, 05:47 PM
Word, I take GMS and im 17. I havent suffered any heart attacks yet. :)

Chris95
01-03-2006, 05:25 AM
Hey PU, do you know if Controlled Labs will have a booth at the Arnold Classic this March? If so let us know.

Also, this looks like a very solid product. Can't wait to stack it with my NOW Arg/Orth or White Blood. I didn't read through the whole review but is there any dangers to your cardiovascular system with the GlycerGrow? I noticed how it is recommended to check with your doc before use. I was wondering why. Thanks!

Brutalbeast73
01-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Pump.....I mean bump. I am really exited to test this product out.

Mr. Aries
01-03-2006, 10:33 PM
Hey PU, do you know if Controlled Labs will have a booth at the Arnold Classic this March? If so let us know.

Also, this looks like a very solid product. Can't wait to stack it with my NOW Arg/Orth or White Blood. I didn't read through the whole review but is there any dangers to your cardiovascular system with the GlycerGrow? I noticed how it is recommended to check with your doc before use. I was wondering why. Thanks!



no booth unfortunately.. We will be spending some cash on an ad campaign in the mags soon.. look for them at the end of this month.

consulting your doctor is always recommended when starting a new supp.. Probably not particularly harmful to your cardiovascular system.. But can't rule out pre-existing conditions..

R_N_S
01-03-2006, 10:36 PM
thank you for FINALLY recommending a product of this nature only on training days; this is a HUGE leap forward for the supplement world :D:D:D

pu12en12g
01-05-2006, 10:48 AM
Got my order in for Glycergrow for the gym today. I will let ya'll know how it is when I give a try on Friday :D.
I can't wait.

Sounds good man ! ! :cool:

R_N_S
01-05-2006, 10:55 AM
green bulge and white blood and glycergrow could be a wicked combo; now when you comin out with a citrulline malate product?!

geoffsherman
01-05-2006, 10:57 AM
Will you guys be selling a GlyerGrow and Red Acid stack together for cutting like you do for WB/GB? I am guessing that this would be a rather powerful cutting stack....

R_N_S
01-05-2006, 10:58 AM
mmmm not sure why you think glycergrow would stand out in cutting? It's really an any time type supplement; in fact I personally think it would shine during PCT and during high rep endurance training.

Mr. Aries
01-05-2006, 11:05 AM
Will you guys be selling a GlyerGrow and Red Acid stack together for cutting like you do for WB/GB? I am guessing that this would be a rather powerful cutting stack....




glycergrow and red acid would poorly define a "stack" since they have very little interaction between the two... A stack is usually two or more products that create synergy when used together...

geoffsherman
01-05-2006, 11:06 AM
If glycerine acts as a diuretic, then it would help when cutting from the water retention perspective and stacked with Red Acid, which would address the metabolism increase, would seem to be a strong stack

Mr. Aries
01-05-2006, 11:12 AM
If glycerine acts as a diuretic, then it would help when cutting from the water retention perspective and stacked with Red Acid, which would address the metabolism increase, would seem to be a strong stack



no.. you do NOT want to use glycergrow as a diuretic.. This is a hydration product and we recommend lots of water.. please do not use our product as a diuretic.. It is potentially dangerous... drink lots of water while using glycergrow. this is meant as a pre-workout performance-enhancement product to help your Creatine and NO products work better...

R_N_S
01-05-2006, 11:16 AM
and cutting doesn't mean diuretics. For everyone out there who isn't competing, the use of diuretics is pretty useless. Cutting for normal people means burning fat, not worrying about water retention.

exfatman
01-05-2006, 11:19 AM
no.. you do NOT want to use glycergrow as a diuretic.. This is a hydration product and we recommend lots of water.. please do not use our product as a diuretic.. It is potentially dangerous... drink lots of water while using glycergrow. this is meant as a pre-workout performance-enhancement product to help your Creatine and NO products work better...
Our???

dtrain13
01-05-2006, 11:25 AM
Our???
He's a member of there team or whatever you want to call it. So "our" is appropriate.

geoffsherman
01-05-2006, 11:28 AM
Interesting....

Mr. Aries
01-05-2006, 11:32 AM
Our???


i work for CL as a consultant... and i'm sponsored by them..


Pure does the heavy workload though.. I work very little.. mainly just emails and whatnot...

exfatman
01-05-2006, 11:37 AM
i work for CL as a consultant... and i'm sponsored by them..


Pure does the heavy workload though.. I work very little.. mainly just emails and whatnot...
I know your sponsored but was unaware your a consultant. Not to hijack the thread, I just got my bulk GMS...shoot a PM so I can pick your brains please.

Mr. Aries
01-05-2006, 11:41 AM
I know your sponsored but was unaware your a consultant. Not to hijack the thread, I just got my bulk GMS...shoot a PM so I can pick your brains please.


pm sent.. just make sure you don't hound me like you hounded hormoneman.. lol... i'm too old for that.. :D

cxm
01-05-2006, 11:43 AM
pm sent.. just make sure you don't hound me like you hounded hormoneman.. lol... i'm too old for that.. :D

He hounded me too! :( Lets not forget the guguls :D

exfatman
01-05-2006, 11:45 AM
pm sent.. just make sure you don't hound me like you hounded hormoneman.. lol... i'm too old for that.. :D
Hounded and hormoneman...that really is a twisted pun :)

exfatman
01-05-2006, 11:46 AM
He hounded me too! :( Lets not forget the guguls :D
?? I did ??

cxm
01-05-2006, 11:47 AM
?? I did ??

J/K, no worries :)

jkeithc82
01-05-2006, 11:48 AM
pm sent.. just make sure you don't hound me like you hounded hormoneman.. lol... i'm too old for that.. :D

PM sent to you as well ;)

exfatman
01-05-2006, 11:48 AM
PM sent to you as well ;)
I am popular :)

jkeithc82
01-05-2006, 11:50 AM
I am popular :)

Not you Aries :D lol

Kulper1
01-05-2006, 11:51 AM
I read this board all the time but rarely offer feedback...

Controlled Labs is a great company, I have used 4 bottles of Green Bulge/White Blood, 2 on, 1 off, 2 on...1 bottle of Blue Rhino and 1 of Red Acid (not a cut just to check it out.)

Currently I'm doing a 5 week cycle of Red and Blue:
Week 1 and 5: 3 Red Acid, 1 Blue Rhino
Weeks 2-4: 6 Red Acid, 2 Blue Rhino

As soon as glycergrow is available it will be a part of my daily supplementation

Next I'll do 2 more months of Green/BWhite and when April hits I'll do another month of Blue/Red

I think the results accompanied with all of these products are up there with any other competiting products, plus they are less expensive than almost anyone, can't be beat.

exfatman
01-05-2006, 11:57 AM
Not you Aries :D lol
Damn...nobody loves me :(

pu12en12g
01-06-2006, 01:21 AM
Will you guys be selling a GlyerGrow and Red Acid stack together for cutting like you do for WB/GB?

Not that I know of.

kingfish_maniac
01-06-2006, 01:57 AM
I know that the 'Big' debate now is over GMS. I have seen tons of posts on Glycerol and its effects. I have searched Google to hell and back for some more information other than just people saying it works. I am very happy with CL and the products I have taken and will continue to buy from you guys. It is just all the speculations have me curious about what GMS can actually do since i see it is also used in alot of foods and even textiles. If you guys have some information on GMS not Glycerol i would appreciate it. I have searched so please no flames :)! MEOW!!

pu12en12g
01-06-2006, 02:02 AM
I know that the 'Big' debate now is over GMS. I have seen tons of posts on Glycerol and its effects. I have searched Google to hell and back for some more information other than just people saying it works. I am very happy with CL and the products I have taken and will continue to buy from you guys. It is just all the speculations have me curious about what GMS can actually do since i see it is also used in alot of foods and even textiles. If you guys have some information on GMS not Glycerol i would appreciate it.

Here is some Glycerol Monostearate standalone feedback:

Nathan1:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7781169&postcount=1

<^> Sign Language:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7953062&postcount=1

Freakie:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=6878034&postcount=65

Dtrain13:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7355465&postcount=70

Olb33:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7260439&postcount=16

D-Termine:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=6726305&postcount=1

kingfish_maniac
01-06-2006, 02:13 AM
Thanks for the info pu12 will give me something to read while i float out here in the middle of no where :)

Mick535
01-06-2006, 10:54 AM
Wow,

After reading a lot of other threads, it seems that things have heated up since you guys announced GlycerGrow. That makes me even more anxious to start my testing on this product.

One question, when you are incorporating this into your pre-workout mix, do you suggest any difference in the timing of my CEE supplementation? Or just keep it the same as normal? I thought maybe since this and creatine go together that you might have an alternative for when it is best to supplement with creatine.

Any thoughts?

pu12en12g
01-06-2006, 11:05 AM
Wow,

After reading a lot of other threads, it seems that things have heated up since you guys announced GlycerGrow. That makes me even more anxious to start my testing on this product.

One question, when you are incorporating this into your pre-workout mix, do you suggest any difference in the timing of my CEE supplementation? Or just keep it the same as normal?

I would keep your creatine timing the same as normal, and adjust the GlycerGrow dosage / timing as needed.

Mick535
01-06-2006, 11:09 AM
I would keep your creatine timing the same as normal, and adjust the GlycerGrow dosage / timing as needed.

Thanks, I figured that, but you never know when it comes to something new.

BigNorwegian
01-06-2006, 11:11 AM
Wow,

After reading a lot of other threads, it seems that things have heated up since you guys announced GlycerGrow. That makes me even more anxious to start my testing on this product.


Agreed.

pu12en12g
01-07-2006, 06:27 AM
Besides the "basic" supplements listed above, what "other" ergogenics, compounds, or supplements do you recommend to maximize my results while on GlycerGrow™ ?


Beta-Alanine (such as Bodyoctane)
Nitric Oxide (pre-workout) such as White Blood
Ergogenic (pre-workout) such as Red Acid or Amp
Nootropic (pre-workout) such as Red Acid or Powerjolt



Also carnitine :cool:

pu12en12g
01-07-2006, 06:32 AM
"There is no rational basis to consider glycerin as anything but a carbohydrate"

- James E. Hoadley
FDA Office of Food Labeling

FYI

avian
01-07-2006, 11:46 AM
the recomended dosing provides ~400-~1800g of sodium

isnt that a bit much? i know there are many cell volumizing benefits and probably some creatine uptkae benefits too, but almost 2g seens like a bit off to me

maybe you might want to increase the size of the blood pressure warning
:p

BigNorwegian
01-07-2006, 11:50 AM
I recieved my GlycerGrow today, I will start my log on monday.

pu12en12g
01-07-2006, 12:20 PM
the recomended dosing provides ~400-~1800g of sodium

isnt that a bit much? i know there are many cell volumizing benefits and probably some creatine uptkae benefits too, but almost 2g seens like a bit off to me

maybe you might want to increase the size of the blood pressure warning
:p



Salt is essential not only to life, but to good health. Human blood contains 0.9% salt (sodium chloride) -- the same concentration as found in United States Pharmacopeia (USP) sodium chloride irrigant commonly used to cleanse wounds. Salt maintains the electrolyte balance inside- and outside of cells. Routine physical examinations measure blood sodium for clues to personal health. Most of our salt comes from foods, some from water. Inadequate salt can be problematic. Doctors often recommend replacing water and salt lost in exercise [see advice on maintaining hydration for bodybuilders, professional athletes and outdoor athletes such as marathon runners and ultraendurance athletes] and when working outside.

The National Academy of Sciences recommends that Americans consume a minimum of 500 mg/day of sodium to maintain good health. Individual needs, however, vary enormously based on their genetic make-up and the way they live their lives. While individual requirements range widely, most Americans have no trouble reaching their minimum requirements. Most consume "excess" sodium above and beyond that required for proper bodily function. The kidneys efficiently process this "excess" sodium in healthy people.

Experimental studies show that most humans tolerate a wide range of sodium intakes, from about 250 mg/day to over 30,000 mg/day. The actual range is much narrower. Americans consume about 3,500 mg/day of sodium; men more, women less. The very large percentage of the population consumes 1,150- 5,750 mg/day which is termed the "hygienic safety range" of sodium intake by renowned Swedish hypertension expert Dr. Björn Folkow. Chloride is also essential to good health.

.....

amjzzz
01-08-2006, 01:01 PM
you could have just bought bulk cee and bulk gms..

I could never find a reputable company that sold bulk gms. I searched for a while. That was a couple months ago, maybe there are easier to find sources now.

Rippd
01-08-2006, 01:43 PM
I could never find a reputable company that sold bulk gms. I searched for a while. That was a couple months ago, maybe there are easier to find sources now.

You can just get glycerol, I believe NOW has it.

Nathan1
01-08-2006, 02:13 PM
I could never find a reputable company that sold bulk gms. I searched for a while. That was a couple months ago, maybe there are easier to find sources now.

you have PM.

Brutalbeast73
01-10-2006, 07:47 PM
I got mine today, I'll start my log Monday the 15th.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-10-2006, 08:12 PM
I got mine today, I'll start my log Monday the 15th.
your most welcome, looking forward to the log.

Bastilla
01-10-2006, 08:43 PM
I cant believe you guys are selling glycerol for over 30 bucks.

The stuff doesnt even work that great anyways....



Controlled Labs Elements:
GlycerGrow™ Cell Burst Formula
1000 Grams (2.2 Pounds) Powder
Our price: $54.99 (MSRP)

<img src="http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/glycergrow_supp_facts.jpg">

Complete Label / Warnings / Supplement Facts (resized / resampled but readable):

Please Click here:
http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/glycergrow.jpg

Key Attributes:


- Intracellular nutrient / electrolyte delivery
- Cell Volumization
- Vascularity
- Growth
- Recovery
- Intensity
- Improve thermoregulation and endurance


GlycerGrow™ is the most advanced standalone cell volumization breakthrough ever to reach the market. GlycerGrow™ combines a proprietary and synergistic blend of pharmaceutical grade ingredients to increase cell volume, aid the osmotic effects of creatine, and enhance the natural anabolic responses of weightlifting. When combined with a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a solid workout protocol, this product helps give the user increased gains in size, strength and vascularity.

During a cutting (calorie deficit/fat loss) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Red Acid™ and Green Bulge™ to keep workout intensity levels high. GlycerGrow™ may also help minimize cramping. As an added bonus, GlycerGrow™ appears to have little impact on insulin and blood sugar levels.

During a bulking (calorie surplus) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Green Bulge™ and White Blood™ for extreme pumps and to optimize your lean gains. GlycerGrow™ may also enhance your extreme stretching protocol.

During a bodybuilding or fitness-related contest preparation phase, GlycerGrow™ can be used to improve vascularity as well as maintain both workout intensity and electrolyte balance, which may help you achieve the muscle hardness, fullness, and density needed to win.

During endurance training, GlycerGrow™ may improve hydration and stamina.

During power-lifting training, GlycerGrow™ may improve explosiveness, recovery, and conditioning, helping to avoid the symptoms of over-training.

What exactly is Glycerol MonoStearate?


Glycerol occurs naturally in the body. When it is ingested as a supplement, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of the fluid in the blood and tissues. The concentration of these fluids is held constant by the body, so water consumed with glycerol is not excreted until the extra glycerol is either removed by the kidneys or broken down by the body. In laymen's terms, taking glycerol in supplemental form quickly improves hydration and the absorption of other supplements that are taken with it. The end result is faster delivery of nutrients when and where you need them the most and the prolonged "pump effect" during your workouts. Our Glycerol is esterified with stearic acid to form Glycerol MonoStearate. Glycerol MonoStearate is a colorless, odorless and sweet-tasting flaky powder that is hygroscopic (it absorbs water from the air, so keep this tightly closed at all times).

Why are there calories and fat in GlycerGrow™ whereas other glycerol (or Glycerol MonoStearate) products do not mention calories or fat on their labels?


Good question. As far as the FDA is concerned, glycerol is a carbohydrate and stearic acid is a saturated fatty acid. Therefore, Glycerol MonoStearate has both fat and carbohydrates in it, which both result in calories. But you have heard that saturated fat is bad for your cholesterol? True, in most cases, but not with stearic acid. Stearic acid is one of the only saturated fatty acids that actually have a neutral or cholesterol-lowering effect on serum cholesterol levels in human studies.

Initial (First Serving) Instructions:


To assess your individual tolerance, combine 1-2 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it about 30 minutes before your workout. Shake well before drinking (powder DOES NOT dissolve well in liquid).

Directions For Usage:


Combine 1 - 4 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it over an extended period of time (pre-workout, during your workout, and post-workout). Shake well before drinking (powder does not dissolve well in liquid). For best results, GlycerGrow™ should be used in combination with Controlled Labs’ Green Bulge™, at least 1-2 gallons of water per day, a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a hypertrophy/volume training workout protocol.

Warnings:


Consuming this product on a completely empty stomach may cause nausea. Consuming this product while on a liquid diet may cause diarrhea. Consuming this product without a sufficient water intake may cause dehydration. This product has been banned by various sporting organizations, including the NCAA. You should not take this product if you have any prior medical condition, including diabetes or high blood pressure. Consult your doctor before using this product.

REFERENCES


1) Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of serum glycerol in patients with brain edema: comparison of oral and intravenous administration. Acta Neurochir Suppl (Wien). 1994;60:550-1.

2) The effect of glycerol and desmopressin on exercise performance and hydration in triathletes. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1998; 30:1263-1269.

3) Pre-exercise glycerol hydration improves cycling endurance time. Int J Sports Med. 1996; 17:27-33.

4) Biochemistry, pharmacokinetics and clinical and practical applications. Sports Med. 1998; 26:145-167.

5) Hyperhydrating with glycerol: implications for athletic performance. J Am Diet Assoc. 1999; 99:207-212.

6) Glycerol hyperhydration: hormonal, renal, and vascular fluid responses. Freund, B.J., Montain, S.J., Young, A.J., Sawka, M.N., DeLuca, J.P., Pandolf, K.B., Valeri, C.R. (1995). Journal of Applied Physiology, 79, 2069-2077

7) Monsma, C.C.; Ney, D.M. Interrelationship of Stearic Acid content and triacylglycerol composition of lard, beef tallow and cocoa butter in rats. Lipids 28(6):539-547; 1993.

jaymdubbs
01-10-2006, 09:27 PM
um yea, i bought some GMS from you know where to see if i should get the glycergrow-

good news for me is i had the most INSANE pump of my life. it literally felt like my muscles were going to explode. wont see until tomorrow how effective it is in weight training (today was conditioning) but im sure ill feel like monster. i think it does help in vascularity, my veins seemed to pop out considerable more. (def. not placebo, my friends commented on it)

verdict for me is im def. gonna purchase the glycergrow.

NumberTwentyTwo
01-10-2006, 10:00 PM
um yea, i bought some GMS from you know where to see if i should get the glycergrow-

good news for me is i had the most INSANE pump of my life. it literally felt like my muscles were going to explode. wont see until tomorrow how effective it is in weight training (today was conditioning) but im sure ill feel like monster. i think it does help in vascularity, my veins seemed to pop out considerable more. (def. not placebo, my friends commented on it)

verdict for me is im def. gonna purchase the glycergrow.
maybe i missed it, but how is glycergrow better than regular bulk glycerol other than the added taurine?

NumberTwentyTwo
01-11-2006, 12:30 PM
bump

Mr. Aries
01-11-2006, 12:35 PM
maybe i missed it, but how is glycergrow better than regular bulk glycerol other than the added taurine?


sodium and potassium, taurine..


the price is very similar to bulk GMS>

Baptizer
01-11-2006, 12:49 PM
I got mine today, I'll start my log Monday the 15th.

My wife mentioned I got my products today (GlycerGrow and Blue Up). Two days left on current stack and then I want at least a few days to get it 'out of my system'. Should start my log sometime next week! Looking forward to starting my log, but I definitely dont want my current supplements to affect my log.

NumberTwentyTwo
01-11-2006, 10:52 PM
sodium and potassium, taurine..


the price is very similar to bulk GMS>
after about 2 days i found this answer----> it is simply for the purpose of making it a solid powder at room temp.

im gonna take it its a little of both aries answer and this one? :confused:

i know too little about gylcerol as of now :(

Mr. Aries
01-11-2006, 10:54 PM
after about 2 days i found this answer----> it is simply for the purpose of making it a solid powder at room temp.

im gonna take it its a little of both aries answer and this one? :confused:

i know too little about gylcerol as of now :(



yes... and yes.. lol..

CONTROLLED LABS
01-21-2006, 06:57 AM
As not to cause clutter I will list this here instead of the new thread.

Too-Extreme
01-21-2006, 11:53 AM
Why was PU banned?

Bane
01-21-2006, 12:11 PM
sodium and potassium, taurine..


the price is very similar to bulk GMS>

All of them very cheaper than GMS. 1 kilo GMS is for 30$

pu12en12g
01-28-2006, 09:10 AM
Here is a question that has been filling up my INBOX lately:


What I would like to know is why so many people are reporting soreness? someone from controlled labs could you fill me in?

THanks


Great question !

There are many variables involved, but soreness is one of many potential indicators of hypertrophy. Initial soreness is to be expected because supplementing with GlycerGrow may result in dramatically increased intensity / volumization (yes... from day 1). This is just one of many things that are occuring in the first week (or so) of GlycerGrow use.

Some of the MANY variables which will determine the extent of this initial soreness:

GlycerGrow Dosage
Hydration
Routine / Training Volume
Protein Intake
Other supplements

Anecdotal feedback suggests that this initial soreness subsides with extended use, but again... many variables are involved.

I hope that helps :)

pu12en12g
01-28-2006, 09:12 AM
One other quick clarification. GlycerGrow works on a per-use basis correct?

Thus, the first serving I take should be just as effective as a serving 3 weeks down the line.(As opposed to the cumulative buildup of creatine within muscles.)


Not really.. because your first serving will be to assess your initial tolerance. After that, you need to find your own optimal dosage (between 1 to 4 scoops).

There are many variables involved.... great question, and I hope that helps ! :)

BigNorwegian
01-28-2006, 09:47 AM
Not really.. because your first serving will be to assess your initial tolerance. After that, you need to find your own optimal dosage (between 1 to 4 scoops).

There are many variables involved.... great question, and I hope that helps ! :)

Stealing quotes from my log are we Pu... :p

hithard
01-28-2006, 12:14 PM
Cell Volumization... the ultimate supplement


Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329

Complete Glycerine / Glycerol information thread


Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581

Electrolytes 101:

Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=658426

Taurine:

Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228656&postcount=7

Creatine Uptake and Sodium:

Please Read it completely:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=414123

Potassium Information

Please Read it completely:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pot.html

United States and International Olympic Committee position on the use of glycerol


The International Olympic Committee (IOC) added diuretics to its list of banned substances in 1986. This is fine, because the use of diuretics is detrimental to the maintenance of fluid homeostasis. Moreover, the use of diuretics is known to decrease the concentration of the urinary markers used to detect abuse of anabolic steroids or other banned ergogenic aids. Glycerol was formerly classified as a diuretic agent by the United States Olympic Committee (USOC), but not by the IOC (13). Such a classification by the USOC was based on the clinical use of glycerol as an osmotic tissue dehydrator. However, glycerol causes minimal diuresis, as only 20% of the intake is excreted by the kidney in urine during rest conditions (13). The remainder is metabolized in the liver and kidney tissue. Indeed, since 1997, the USOC has removed the ban on glycerol and has approved the use of glycerol ingestion by athletes in USOC-sanctioned events.

NCAA Permissible/impermissible products:


To assist the membership in accurately applying Bylaw 16.5.2.g, posted below are two lists of supplements: one permissible for the institution to provide, the other containing examples of impermissible ingredients.

It is important to note that when reading the ingredient label of a supplement product, the listing of any impermissible ingredient makes the product impermissible. Further, when considering the product's protein content, the reader should consider the listing of the word "protein" and the number of grams included. If any other parts of a protein are listed separately, as in any amino acid or chain, it would not be permissible for an institution to provide such a supplement to its student-athletes. If the product lists a "proprietary protein" or "protein blend," then this is not protein from a whole food source, but rather a concoction created by the manufacturer, and in most instances includes impermissible supplement ingredients..

Permissible:

* Vitamins and minerals
* Energy bars
* Calorie replacement drinks (for example, Ensure, Boost)
* Electrolyte replacement drinks (for example, Gatorade, Powerade)

Impermissible

* Amino acids (including amino acid chelates)
* Chondroitin*
* Chrysin
* CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid)
* Creatine/compounds containing creatine
* Garcinia Cambogia (Hydroxycitric Acid)
* Ginkgo Biloba
* Ginseng
* Glucosamine*
* Glutathione
* Glycerol **
* Green tea
* HMB (Hydroxy-methylbutyrate)
* Melatonin
* MSM (Methylsulfonyl Methane)
* Protein powders
* St. John's Wort
* Tribulus
* Weight-gainers
* Yohimbe

* It is permissible for an institution to provide glucosamine and/or condroitin to a student-athlete for medical purposes, provided such substances are provided by a licensed medical doctor to treat a specific, diagnosed medical condition (as opposed to prescribing them for preventive reasons).

** Glycerine or glycerol as a binding ingredient in a supplement product is permissible.

After reading this thread and post, it makes me concerned whether or not I will be able to play baseball or football for my high school. I am taking many of the "Impermissible" things listed; protein powder, weight gainer, green tea, ginko, amino acids, creatine, and I'm planing on taking Glycerol. any thoughts

pu12en12g
01-28-2006, 12:23 PM
After reading this thread and post, it makes me concerned whether or not I will be able to play baseball or football for my high school. I am taking many of the "Impermissible" things listed; protein powder, weight gainer, green tea, ginko, amino acids, creatine, and I'm planing on taking Glycerol. any thoughts

NCAA = College

Your high school may have a list of their own...

NC2315
01-30-2006, 06:26 PM
I normally drink a sugar free red bull before working out. Tonight I didnt drink one and had even better pumps and vascularity from my workout. Is this a correlation from not drinking the red bull? If so I will definantly stop drinking one while on GG. I've been having great workouts since beginning GG but tonight was insane. I figure it may be better just to consume alot of water before working out instead of an energy drink while taking Glycergrow. Thanks for any feedback.

pu12en12g
01-30-2006, 06:37 PM
I normally drink a sugar free red bull before working out. Tonight I didnt drink one and had even better pumps and vascularity from my workout. Is this a correlation from not drinking the red bull? If so I will definantly stop drinking one while on GG. I've been having great workouts since beginning GG but tonight was insane. I figure it may be better just to consume alot of water before working out instead of an energy drink while taking Glycergrow. Thanks for any feedback.

Feedback like this is so exciting, that I'm honored to be a part of it... especially with PH's getting banned left and right, we only have a "select few" products that are both cheap and effective..

Anyways, back on topic:

1) The Red Bull thing might still be a coincidence.. DEFINATELY keep us updated...this is exactly why we value our real world feedback !

2) It's possible that GlycerGrow is most effective when avoiding Caffeine (and I'm not sure how much caffeine is in Red Bull.. but I imagine that it's quite a bit).. although Red Acid + GlycerGrow feedback is great so far...

3) Red Bull also contains additional sodium (not sure how much) which could make a difference (we have a proprietary ratio of Sodium:Potassium), but I'm not sure that it would be THAT noticable.

I will investigate this ASAP (I have a few local lab rats thank god).

Stuart Rudolph
01-31-2006, 04:11 AM
I'm on Day 4 of a GG/StimX stack, and I must say I haven't received pumps like this since my M1T days. Question is will the effects of GG diminsh over time? For instants, 6 months down the road if I continually use GG non stop, will my effects be the same as they are now? I guess only time will tell right?

pu12en12g
02-04-2006, 09:29 AM
I'm on Day 4 of a GG/StimX stack, and I must say I haven't received pumps like this since my M1T days. Question is will the effects of GG diminsh over time? For instants, 6 months down the road if I continually use GG non stop, will my effects be the same as they are now? I guess only time will tell right?

Some guys are taking it literally every single day (even off days)... we generally don't recommend this.

The nature of the product + by taking it on workout days only, the effects shouldn't really diminish... you just might get "used to" the intensity and muscle fullness.

One of my favorite parts about GlycerGrow is how extra-lean you look on the "off days" :cool: (this is when the lean gains really become obvious in my opinion).

Mick535
02-04-2006, 10:22 AM
Some guys are taking it literally every single day (even off days)... we generally don't recommend this.

The nature of the product + by taking it on workout days only, the effects shouldn't really diminish... you just might get "used to" the intensity and muscle fullness.

One of my favorite parts about GlycerGrow is how extra-lean you look on the "off days" :cool: (this is when the lean gains really become obvious in my opinion).

I am almost done the 3rd week of my log on GlycerGrow and I would have to agree with PT, I really have noticed how lean I appear with this product on the weekends. When other users of this product say in their logs about feeling and/ or looking puffy and having water retention, I have to say that I am experiencing the opposite. I am also cutting, so that could be the reason. In fact, I am not cutting hard, my nutrition isn't that strict and I have lost a little weight, but what's even better is that I appear leaner and my strength has increased. I'll take that over sheer weight loss any day!

pu12en12g
06-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Can a MOD move this one to the new / proper section ?

:cool:

Dutchman.pt
08-17-2006, 07:14 PM
GlycerGrow should be taken only on train days, right?

I'm thinking on taking this + Green Magnitude.
I was on Cre Ethyl Thunder but my last bottle is about to end and the supplier is out of stock, plus the fact that both of this Controlled Labs products look great, with so much reviews and stuff about it.

Wish me luck. :)
(1st post)

CONTROLLED LABS
08-17-2006, 07:37 PM
GlycerGrow should be taken only on train days, right?

I'm thinking on taking this + Green Magnitude.
I was on Cre Ethyl Thunder but my last bottle is about to end and the supplier is out of stock, plus the fact that both of this Controlled Labs products look great, with so much reviews and stuff about it.

Wish me luck. :)
(1st post)
correct, training days only. let us know how you like it :)

Dutchman.pt
08-17-2006, 08:43 PM
correct, training days only. let us know how you like it :)
Btw, i know this is a little bit off-topic but...

Green Magnitude should also be taken just on training days like GlycerGrow or also on non training days too?
Tks. :)

pu12en12g
08-17-2006, 10:10 PM
Btw, i know this is a little bit off-topic but...

Green Magnitude should also be taken just on training days like GlycerGrow or also on non training days too?
Tks. :)

Green MAGnitude should be taken every day. If you want, you can just take 1/2 scoop on off days.

If you do cardio on off days, I highly recommend taking the Green MAGnitude pre-cardio... the feedback is excellent on this method.

Good luck and feel free to contact me with any other questions:

pt@controlledlabs.com

Dutchman.pt
08-19-2006, 12:21 AM
Green MAGnitude should be taken every day. If you want, you can just take 1/2 scoop on off days.

If you do cardio on off days, I highly recommend taking the Green MAGnitude pre-cardio... the feedback is excellent on this method.

Good luck and feel free to contact me with any other questions:

pt@controlledlabs.com

Thanks. :)
Btw, you got mail. :)

double__j
09-23-2006, 08:30 AM
As ever before i buy a supp i always have a few questions!!

1. I understand (just about) the benefits of GG and i think has the potential to make green mag or other creatines more effective by increasing the uptake of them into muscle cells correct?

2. I'll prob take 3 scoops GG per workout, 1 scoop 1hr 15 mins before with green mag which will then be followed 15mins later by my pre workout meal which is 1hr before my workout. Then 1 scoop immediately pre. Then 1 scoop immediately post workout, does this sound optimal? One main reason i am taking it is to increase creatine effectiveness as i barely respond and hope that this may make a difference so i would like my dosing to reflect this desire.

3. It says not to take on an empty stomach yet all 3 of my scoops seem to be, 1 first thing in combination with green mag, 1 immediatly preworkout which is 1hr after i ate a large meal and 1 immediately post by which time my stomach will be empty. How should i alter my administration to avoid this or is what i suggested in question 2 ok?

4. Is it safe to stack with Green Mag, Purple Wrath, and occasionally AMP or Stim-X.

Cheers very much

pu12en12g
09-23-2006, 08:59 AM
As ever before i buy a supp i always have a few questions!!

1. I understand (just about) the benefits of GG and i think has the potential to make green mag or other creatines more effective by increasing the uptake of them into muscle cells correct?

2. I'll prob take 3 scoops GG per workout, 1 scoop 1hr 15 mins before with green mag which will then be followed 15mins later by my pre workout meal which is 1hr before my workout. Then 1 scoop immediately pre. Then 1 scoop immediately post workout, does this sound optimal? One main reason i am taking it is to increase creatine effectiveness as i barely respond and hope that this may make a difference so i would like my dosing to reflect this desire.

3. It says not to take on an empty stomach yet all 3 of my scoops seem to be, 1 first thing in combination with green mag, 1 immediatly preworkout which is 1hr after i ate a large meal and 1 immediately post by which time my stomach will be empty. How should i alter my administration to avoid this or is what i suggested in question 2 ok?

4. Is it safe to stack with Green Mag, Purple Wrath, and occasionally AMP or Stim-X.

Cheers very much

1. Yes, there is synergy with creatine since both are volumizers, but that's just the beginning :cool:

2. That sounds good. You can also take all 3 scoops pre-workout (that's the popular dosing method).

3. With your split dosage method, empty stomach shouldn't be an issue.

4. It's fine with GM and PW, and most stims... just be sure to stay hydrated.

double__j
09-23-2006, 10:59 AM
1. You can also take all 3 scoops pre-workout (that's the popular dosing method).


Thinking about it this would be much easier, if i took this 15 mins before my pre workout meal with my green mag would i have problems due to empty stomach do you think or is it only really if you take it and leave it on an empty stomch?

Other than that as always pu, cheers for the quick reliable response.

double__j
10-01-2006, 06:45 AM
??

pu12en12g
10-01-2006, 07:02 AM
Thinking about it this would be much easier, if i took this 15 mins before my pre workout meal with my green mag would i have problems due to empty stomach do you think or is it only really if you take it and leave it on an empty stomch?

Other than that as always pu, cheers for the quick reliable response.

The idea is a good one, but I would increase dosage gradually to avoid any *potential* "gastrointestinal issues"

Let us know how it goes.

xinyo811
10-01-2006, 09:00 AM
yo mr. pu12en12g, is this glycergrow stuff still banned in some sports like ncaa?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-01-2006, 09:14 AM
yo mr. pu12en12g, is this glycergrow stuff still banned in some sports like ncaa?
it is not banned in the most recent ncaa list.

Urchin
10-01-2006, 05:20 PM
I'm thinking of doing the following stack for the last leg of my bulk

GM/GG/BU/PW/WB

As for GG i have a question.... You say that you should start with one dose, then taper it up to find your tollerence, but what "effects" are we looking for to know that we are dosing to much? Stomach ache?

cervasa1977
10-01-2006, 08:02 PM
I'm thinking of doing the following stack for the last leg of my bulk

GM/GG/BU/PW/WB

As for GG i have a question.... You say that you should start with one dose, then taper it up to find your tollerence, but what "effects" are we looking for to know that we are dosing to much? Stomach ache?
Very nice stack I did one very similar and had my best growth in that time period only difference I used GB instead of GM. You should get some great results. The taper is to see how you react to the GG some sides are gastro problems and headaches. Water intake is key. I found out the hard way and had headaches the first few days and finally bumped up my water intake and that took care of that problem. I had no gastro sides at all

pu12en12g
10-02-2006, 03:46 AM
I'm thinking of doing the following stack for the last leg of my bulk

GM/GG/BU/PW/WB

As for GG i have a question.... You say that you should start with one dose, then taper it up to find your tollerence, but what "effects" are we looking for to know that we are dosing to much? Stomach ache?

cervasa1977 hit the nail on the head above :cool:

Tapering up the dosage let's you get used to the increased water intake and avoid headaches and other issues (because results will vary). Will you be doing a progress log / journal at all ?

Urchin
10-02-2006, 06:09 AM
Thanks for the answers... not entirely sure if I'll be doing a log, I'm leaning towards yes. However I just tried to place my orer through bb.com and i can't seem to get blue up delivered to Canada... is it banned here?

pu12en12g
10-02-2006, 06:20 AM
Thanks for the answers... not entirely sure if I'll be doing a log, I'm leaning towards yes. However I just tried to place my orer through bb.com and i can't seem to get blue up delivered to Canada... is it banned here?

You can get the stim-free version, but not the Yohimbe version.

Urchin
10-02-2006, 06:43 AM
Ahh, good to know.... Thanks! I'll place my order now and we'll see how she goes!

CONTROLLED LABS
10-02-2006, 08:46 PM
Ahh, good to know.... Thanks! I'll place my order now and we'll see how she goes!
keep us posted :)

double__j
10-19-2006, 11:30 AM
The idea is a good one, but I would increase dosage gradually to avoid any *potential* "gastrointestinal issues"

Let us know how it goes.

As i said i would do i took my GG and GM 15mins before my preworkout meal, so they were taken on a completely empty stomach, my body had some gastro issues witht his so i reduced the time ti maybe 5-10 before the meal and now have no problem. I believe i can leave it a little longer now than at first now my body's more used to the GG + GM. Hope this is informative to CL and CL customers.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-19-2006, 12:19 PM
As i said i would do i took my GG and GM 15mins before my preworkout meal, so they were taken on a completely empty stomach, my body had some gastro issues witht his so i reduced the time ti maybe 5-10 before the meal and now have no problem. I believe i can leave it a little longer now than at first now my body's more used to the GG + GM. Hope this is informative to CL and CL customers.
sounds great :)

BeachBrah22
04-13-2009, 06:33 AM
does taking this give you good pumps and energy and would it keep me from falling asleep if I take it in the afternoon

christopher a
04-13-2009, 08:41 AM
does taking this give you good pumps and energy and would it keep me from falling asleep if I take it in the afternoon

No stimulants in GG. Take a look at the FAQ's in this thread which details the dosage and effects.

Chris

CONTROLLED LABS
04-13-2009, 11:39 AM
No stimulants in GG. Take a look at the FAQ's in this thread which details the dosage and effects.

Chris
yup and wow, that was a huge bump :D

JLT
04-13-2009, 01:04 PM
Wow.. I subscribed to this thread years ago.

pu12en12g
04-13-2009, 01:09 PM
Holy BUMP batman !!! :D :D

Stuart Rudolph
04-13-2009, 05:29 PM
That was a huge bump :D

No kidding! Two years and 9 months. Here's what I experienced 2 1/2 years ago.



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I'm on Day 4 of a GG/StimX stack, and I must say I haven't received pumps like this since my M1T days.

pu12en12g
04-13-2009, 05:46 PM
Where you been Stu ? :eek:

Forumite
06-14-2009, 06:56 AM
Another bumb here, didnt want to start a new thread when this one came up in the search.

I'm thinking of running this with a GM/WB/PW stack. I normally eat a PBJ sandwhich before working out. Would it be ok to eat the sandwhich, take the GG then follow with the GM and WB?

Pretty sure it would be just making extra sure.

cervasa1977
06-14-2009, 08:01 AM
Another bumb here, didnt want to start a new thread when this one came up in the search.

I'm thinking of running this with a GM/WB/PW stack. I normally eat a PBJ sandwhich before working out. Would it be ok to eat the sandwhich, take the GG then follow with the GM and WB?

Pretty sure it would be just making extra sure.

looks fine to me

CONTROLLED LABS
06-14-2009, 08:54 PM
Another bumb here, didnt want to start a new thread when this one came up in the search.

I'm thinking of running this with a GM/WB/PW stack. I normally eat a PBJ sandwhich before working out. Would it be ok to eat the sandwhich, take the GG then follow with the GM and WB?

Pretty sure it would be just making extra sure.

sure, you can even sprinkle the glycergrow on the sandwich and eat it :)

Forumite
06-15-2009, 06:06 AM
sure, you can even sprinkle the glycergrow on the sandwich and eat it :)

Hmmm I may give this a try then, thanks.

CONTROLLED LABS
06-15-2009, 01:49 PM
Hmmm I may give this a try then, thanks.
pretty tasteless so it shouldnt mess with your sandwich taste

Forumite
06-16-2009, 10:14 AM
pretty tasteless so it shouldnt mess with your sandwich taste

Excellent.

One more question. Read instructions on site and it says to consume over an extended period of time. Taking it all at once wont effect anything negetively will it? I must be reading it wrong but the instructions make it sound like a intra supp.

pu12en12g
06-16-2009, 01:33 PM
Excellent.

One more question. Read instructions on site and it says to consume over an extended period of time. Taking it all at once wont effect anything negetively will it? I must be reading it wrong but the instructions make it sound like a intra supp.

The popular method has taken over:

1 to 3 scoops pre-gym and PLENTY of water ALL DAY :cool:

bishopbeater
06-22-2009, 08:51 PM
http://www.sportsci.org/traintech/glycerol/rar.htm
this shows there is no ban on glycerol as of 1997

CONTROLLED LABS
06-23-2009, 09:18 AM
http://www.sportsci.org/traintech/glycerol/rar.htm
this shows there is no ban on glycerol as of 1997

ban in what sense and by whom?

gms is no longer banned by the ncaa

Dentor
07-08-2009, 05:03 PM
one quick question, i wanted to take Body Octane with this, but have heard mixed thoughts about combining beta alanine with taurine, do you know of any studies or anything like that on this. thanks

pu12en12g
07-08-2009, 06:29 PM
one quick question, i wanted to take Body Octane with this, but have heard mixed thoughts about combining beta alanine with taurine, do you know of any studies or anything like that on this. thanks

I know it's been debunked for a few years, I'll try to find the info for ya

jcosley
08-28-2009, 02:52 PM
sure, you can even sprinkle the glycergrow on the sandwich and eat it :)

Bump 4 - NOM NOM NOM NOM. OM NOM NOM NOM! :cool:

CONTROLLED LABS
08-28-2009, 02:53 PM
Bump 4 - NOM NOM NOM NOM. OM NOM NOM NOM! :cool:

type of sandwich? :D

Dracoy
08-28-2009, 10:12 PM
Bump 4 - NOM NOM NOM NOM. OM NOM NOM NOM! :cool:

wut o-o

pu12en12g
08-28-2009, 11:42 PM
:eek:

BIG F@CE
09-02-2009, 05:25 PM
f'n A i been putting off using this since 07' i think ill give it a try now.

any complications with taking with Animal Pump? could i possibly be dosing too much Taurine by consuming both of these? pre-workout?

pu12en12g
09-02-2009, 05:42 PM
f'n A i been putting off using this since 07' i think ill give it a try now.

any complications with taking with Animal Pump? could i possibly be dosing too much Taurine by consuming both of these? pre-workout?

Should be just fine if you stay hydrated

BIG F@CE
10-01-2009, 08:36 PM
Should be just fine if you stay hydrated

sorry, its been nearly a month and all its done or has seem to do is either add fat or make me look all bloated.

And yes, all my **** is in check. water and food.

Read lots of good feed back on this board about this and i also read the negative feed back before trying it out.

not knocking the company as ive had success with some of their line up "blue up, white flood (which i love), green mag... etc.

but wtf is up with this Glycergrow? i dont know maybe its just me.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-02-2009, 02:08 PM
sorry, its been nearly a month and all its done or has seem to do is either add fat or make me look all bloated.

And yes, all my **** is in check. water and food.

Read lots of good feed back on this board about this and i also read the negative feed back before trying it out.

not knocking the company as ive had success with some of their line up "blue up, white flood (which i love), green mag... etc.

but wtf is up with this Glycergrow? i dont know maybe its just me.

what is your dosing and water intake like?

BIG F@CE
10-02-2009, 09:09 PM
what is your dosing and water intake like?

1 scoop pre-workout 1 scoop post. 1 scoop before bed.

> gallon. its all i drink all day. 185lbs.

i should be able to take it how ever i want, right? its nothing that needs timing imo. **** i dont even know why i separate the serving.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-04-2009, 08:47 PM
1 scoop pre-workout 1 scoop post. 1 scoop before bed.

> gallon. its all i drink all day. 185lbs.

i should be able to take it how ever i want, right? its nothing that needs timing imo. **** i dont even know why i separate the serving.

i would just do 3 scoops preworkout (30-45 minutes pre), should work much better that way

oscarlf
10-12-2009, 10:08 PM
so yeah, you guys weren't lying when you said it doesn't dissolve. I was thinking "I'll ****ing make it dissolve, I'll mix that **** real good"....nope not a chance so what i do is just do the scoops in the mouth or...

I mix about 2-3 scoops into a bowl of oatmeal for my preworkout, it just taste like semi-salty oatmeal. Could this negatively affect the way the product is intended to work?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-13-2009, 10:55 AM
so yeah, you guys weren't lying when you said it doesn't dissolve. I was thinking "I'll ****ing make it dissolve, I'll mix that **** real good"....nope not a chance so what i do is just do the scoops in the mouth or...

I mix about 2-3 scoops into a bowl of oatmeal for my preworkout, it just taste like semi-salty oatmeal. Could this negatively affect the way the product is intended to work?

that is perfectly fine, you can try to mix it with yogurt too.

Jim K
10-13-2009, 10:57 PM
is this stuff good on a keto diet?

or is it like arginine, where its almost useless as a pump without glucose in your system?

AKMass
10-13-2009, 11:12 PM
is this stuff good on a keto diet?

Yes, I've been on keto for months and it works for me.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-14-2009, 10:46 AM
is this stuff good on a keto diet?

or is it like arginine, where its almost useless as a pump without glucose in your system?


Yes, I've been on keto for months and it works for me.
yup, should work fine on keto. just make sure you are fully hydrated

PoliceBrutality
10-25-2009, 04:22 PM
I got my Glycergrow in the mail yesterday (Saturday) and have been reading all the reviews about, so I was excited to try it out. I took 2 scoops, mixed with N.O., pre-workout, and put two scoops in a powerade for during my workout and drank it along with a gallon of water. I hit my shoulders and arms, and I got a serious pump. I'm not a big guy, I walk around at about 165 give or take. Typically I weigh myself on the way out from the gym and usually weigh right around 166-167. After taking the Glycergrow I weighed 175, which is the heaviest i've ever been. Granted a lot of it was water weight, but my weight finally settled around 166.5 (walkaround weight) after about 3 hours, which is a huge gain for me for just one day. I'm curious to see how it goes with a full week of working out, but so far i'm happy with it.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-25-2009, 08:53 PM
I got my Glycergrow in the mail yesterday (Saturday) and have been reading all the reviews about, so I was excited to try it out. I took 2 scoops, mixed with N.O., pre-workout, and put two scoops in a powerade for during my workout and drank it along with a gallon of water. I hit my shoulders and arms, and I got a serious pump. I'm not a big guy, I walk around at about 165 give or take. Typically I weigh myself on the way out from the gym and usually weigh right around 166-167. After taking the Glycergrow I weighed 175, which is the heaviest i've ever been. Granted a lot of it was water weight, but my weight finally settled around 166.5 (walkaround weight) after about 3 hours, which is a huge gain for me for just one day. I'm curious to see how it goes with a full week of working out, but so far i'm happy with it.
looking forward to it, keep a log if possible

adrenergic
10-25-2009, 09:51 PM
I gave a bunch of GG to my friend and he said it cured his cold. /shrug


great stuff btw

pu12en12g
10-25-2009, 09:52 PM
I got my Glycergrow in the mail yesterday (Saturday) and have been reading all the reviews about, so I was excited to try it out. I took 2 scoops, mixed with N.O., pre-workout, and put two scoops in a powerade for during my workout and drank it along with a gallon of water. I hit my shoulders and arms, and I got a serious pump. I'm not a big guy, I walk around at about 165 give or take. Typically I weigh myself on the way out from the gym and usually weigh right around 166-167. After taking the Glycergrow I weighed 175, which is the heaviest i've ever been. Granted a lot of it was water weight, but my weight finally settled around 166.5 (walkaround weight) after about 3 hours, which is a huge gain for me for just one day. I'm curious to see how it goes with a full week of working out, but so far i'm happy with it.

Awesome, keep us updated for sure !

PoliceBrutality
10-26-2009, 01:34 PM
Awesome, keep us updated for sure !

Today was a pretty good day with GG. I worked back, tri's and Abs and got a B+ pump from workout. I was feeling a little bit bloated before taking the GG..mainly due to a crappy breakfast I had, so I wasnt able to work out as intense as I usually try to do. Like I said before I usually weigh about 166-167 when I leave the gym, and today I left weighing about 173. I just got back so Im not sure where my weight will settle at, but again I am happy with weight gain and maintaining a lean look.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-26-2009, 01:40 PM
I gave a bunch of GG to my friend and he said it cured his cold. /shrug


great stuff btw

i doubt that :D

adrenergic
10-28-2009, 01:56 PM
i doubt that :D

Lol a little exaggeration, but he tried it on three seperate occasions and said that every time, his sore throat..wasnt sore anymore lol.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-29-2009, 10:56 AM
Lol a little exaggeration, but he tried it on three seperate occasions and said that every time, his sore throat..wasnt sore anymore lol.

interesting

spartan09
11-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Can Glycergrow be used with a pre workout stim like Jack3d? Thanks

pu12en12g
11-21-2009, 07:17 PM
Can Glycergrow be used with a pre workout stim like Jack3d? Thanks

Many stack it with MAGnitude and White FLOOD, or it can be used during the time off from stims.

Sl33k
01-19-2010, 12:43 AM
I am currently taking CL GlycerGrow/Jack3d/Green Mag

Along with ON Optimen, ON Fish Oil, ON BCAA, and ON Gultamine.

By far GreenMag is my fav creatine...cycle on and off all the time and the taste isnt bad at all. So Jack3d and Green Mag were working fine for me.

Since the 2010 year started I included GG in my stack. I bought it a while back but hadnt used it. So its currently the 3rd week that i am using CG and its great! IMO I love this stack!
Jack3d is my fav prework out and most effective IMO, both mentally and physically. And since taking CG i can defiantly notice the pump effect! My pumps are harder and last way longer! Definatly putting some size on. So far I can tell you nothing but good things about GG and my stack. Im keeping a log in my note book and all my Max's have gone up by about 5-10 pounds since.

GlycerGrow is a great product, I buy the big powder gatorade mix and mix it with 3-4 scoops of GG and it tastes fine! Try it out, you wont be dissapointed!

Controlled Labs thanks for a great product! Will keep you posted with Gains and Logs!

REPS FOR REPS!

pu12en12g
01-19-2010, 10:49 AM
I am currently taking CL GlycerGrow/Jack3d/Green Mag

Along with ON Optimen, ON Fish Oil, ON BCAA, and ON Gultamine.

By far GreenMag is my fav creatine...cycle on and off all the time and the taste isnt bad at all. So Jack3d and Green Mag were working fine for me.

Since the 2010 year started I included GG in my stack. I bought it a while back but hadnt used it. So its currently the 3rd week that i am using CG and its great! IMO I love this stack!
Jack3d is my fav prework out and most effective IMO, both mentally and physically. And since taking CG i can defiantly notice the pump effect! My pumps are harder and last way longer! Definatly putting some size on. So far I can tell you nothing but good things about GG and my stack. Im keeping a log in my note book and all my Max's have gone up by about 5-10 pounds since.

GlycerGrow is a great product, I buy the big powder gatorade mix and mix it with 3-4 scoops of GG and it tastes fine! Try it out, you wont be dissapointed!

Controlled Labs thanks for a great product! Will keep you posted with Gains and Logs!

REPS FOR REPS!

Nicely done ! Excited for updates !!!

CONTROLLED LABS
01-19-2010, 08:21 PM
I am currently taking CL GlycerGrow/Jack3d/Green Mag

Along with ON Optimen, ON Fish Oil, ON BCAA, and ON Gultamine.

By far GreenMag is my fav creatine...cycle on and off all the time and the taste isnt bad at all. So Jack3d and Green Mag were working fine for me.

Since the 2010 year started I included GG in my stack. I bought it a while back but hadnt used it. So its currently the 3rd week that i am using CG and its great! IMO I love this stack!
Jack3d is my fav prework out and most effective IMO, both mentally and physically. And since taking CG i can defiantly notice the pump effect! My pumps are harder and last way longer! Definatly putting some size on. So far I can tell you nothing but good things about GG and my stack. Im keeping a log in my note book and all my Max's have gone up by about 5-10 pounds since.

GlycerGrow is a great product, I buy the big powder gatorade mix and mix it with 3-4 scoops of GG and it tastes fine! Try it out, you wont be dissapointed!

Controlled Labs thanks for a great product! Will keep you posted with Gains and Logs!

REPS FOR REPS!

solid :cool:

daxster
01-28-2010, 10:46 PM
I made a noob mistake today, forgot my banana with the GlycerGrow, the warning stating that taking on an empty stomach can result in nausea is not a lie!
Other then that one mistake on my part I love GlycerGrow!

CONTROLLED LABS
01-29-2010, 02:27 PM
I made a noob mistake today, forgot my banana with the GlycerGrow, the warning stating that taking on an empty stomach can result in nausea is not a lie!
Other then that one mistake on my part I love GlycerGrow!

thats why we put it on there :D

pu12en12g
02-01-2010, 12:52 AM
I made a noob mistake today, forgot my banana with the GlycerGrow, the warning stating that taking on an empty stomach can result in nausea is not a lie!
Other then that one mistake on my part I love GlycerGrow!

Awesome man, thanks for spreading the word

Mata Leao
09-02-2010, 08:14 PM
hey guys i got a tub of glycer grow but somehow lost the scoop? how many table spoons would it have to use to equal 1 scoop?

also u guys said to sip it before/intra/post but yet that alot of ppl just wash down the power with water, so does that mean that taking the scoops preworkout work just as well?

pu12en12g
09-02-2010, 11:05 PM
hey guys i got a tub of glycer grow but somehow lost the scoop? how many table spoons would it have to use to equal 1 scoop?

2 maybe ? (guesstimate)

pu12en12g
09-02-2010, 11:08 PM
also u guys said to sip it before/intra/post but yet that alot of ppl just wash down the power with water, so does that mean that taking the scoops preworkout work just as well?

Short version, yes. The directions on the tub is to avoid stomach upset etc.. (SENSITIVE stomach individuals)

IamPC
09-18-2010, 04:02 AM
Hi , glycergrow contains sodium chloride . Wouldn't that cause water retention? Hence not suitable to use during a cut because it will cause your muscle to look more bulky? Correct me if I am wrong.

IamPC
09-18-2010, 10:57 PM
bump

IamPC
09-19-2010, 12:21 AM
GlycerGrow on Off/Rest days?

IamPC
09-20-2010, 05:59 AM
HI bump.