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hwpnow
01-12-2008, 11:50 AM
This should be interesting

trailwarrior
01-12-2008, 11:54 AM
The dismanteling of Big Business (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11155.htm) would solve all the major issues in this country.



Thomas Jefferson:
3rd U.S. President 1801-1809
"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

James Madison:
4th U.S President 1809-1817
"There is an evil, which ought to be guarded against in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by...corporations. The power of all corporations ought to be limited in this respect. The growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses."

Andrew Jackson:
7th U.S. President 1829-1837
"Unless you become more watchful in your States and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of Government have been given or bartered away, and the control of your dearest interests have been passed into the hands of these corporations."

Chris187
01-12-2008, 12:15 PM
No more war = more money for our economy.

hwpnow
01-12-2008, 12:16 PM
The dismanteling of Big Business (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11155.htm) would solve all the major issues in this country.

that goes under ethics reform

llcoolray3000
01-12-2008, 12:34 PM
The implementation of the Fair Tax.

trailwarrior
01-12-2008, 12:35 PM
that goes under ethics reform

Reformed fascism is still fascism.

The dismantelling of Big Business (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11155.htm) will not only solve the majority of problems with Ethics in government, but will also solve the majority of problems with the Economy, Education, equal opportunity, Iraq War, foreign policy, homeland security, Energy, Environment, Immigration, and most certainly Liberty.



Thomas Jefferson:
3rd U.S. President 1801-1809
"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

James Madison:
4th U.S President 1809-1817
"There is an evil, which ought to be guarded against in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by...corporations. The power of all corporations ought to be limited in this respect. The growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses."

Andrew Jackson:
7th U.S. President 1829-1837
"Unless you become more watchful in your States and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of Government have been given or bartered away, and the control of your dearest interests have been passed into the hands of these corporations."


Edit:
Come to think of it, the dismantelling of Big Business (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11155.htm) will probably even solve any "perceived" problems with abortion and gay marriage. Because we would no longer have Big Business empowering fringe groups on wedge issues to garner support for their corporate cronies in DC.

mroth86
01-12-2008, 12:35 PM
the economy

jackal337
01-12-2008, 12:38 PM
The environment should be at the top of everyones list. Without a habitable planet we have nothing, no economy, no life, no liberty, no happiness....

hwpnow
01-12-2008, 01:33 PM
I think without ethics reform, the economy cannot be improved. Bridge to no-where, excessive government spending, pork projects, lobbyist, poisoned Chinese toys, environmental problems, American jobs being shipped over seas, they are all related to ethical problems in Washington.

Ethics reform!!! Washington must change!

Pathogen
01-12-2008, 01:40 PM
The environment should be at the top of everyones list. Without a habitable planet we have nothing, no economy, no life, no liberty, no happiness....

Assuming we don't have a nuclear winter, I doubt the planet will become uninhabitable within my lifetime.

I_R_BABOON
01-12-2008, 01:53 PM
Im at a cross roads between the environment and economy.

Middle class:
1. Millions of middle class families can no longer afford to live on one sometimes two incomes.

2. At a time when the top 1% of U.S. citizens owns more wealth than the bottom 95% the U.S. President cut the taxes of that wealthiest 1% while vast numbers of the bottom 95% live paycheck- to-paycheck and owe enormous credit card debts.

3. American businesses are increasingly outsourcing finance, technology, production, and marketing jobs. More than half of all U.S.-owned manufacturing production is now based in foreign countries, and a quarter of the profits of U.S. multinational corporations are made overseas?with these shares constantly expanding.

4. Rising housing costs meant that a growing number of Americans resorted to adjustable rate mortgages and other non-traditional financing mechanisms to buy a home. As the rates on these mortgages increase over the next few years, middle-class homeowners who are already struggling to make mortgage payments will find themselves even more squeezed, forced to sell their homes or foreclose.

5. Despite recent gains, job creation has been slow compared to previous economic recoveries, and employers like Whirlpool, AOL and General Motors that offered well-paying middle-class jobs have just announced thousands of lay-offs, and many of the new jobs that replaced those that were lost during the recession are lower-paying and offer fewer benefits.

Kiefer 2004
01-12-2008, 01:59 PM
1. Economy
2. Iraq
3. Liberty

HoosierBoy
01-12-2008, 02:16 PM
Judicial appointments, hands down.

meing0tt
01-12-2008, 02:16 PM
I voted economy, but should have voted for liberty (didn't see it).

1. Liberty
2. Economy

grup910
01-12-2008, 02:21 PM
tie between environment & energy, and the economy.

grup910
01-12-2008, 02:22 PM
Judicial appointments, hands down.

lol

J-Bol
01-12-2008, 02:24 PM
How is enviroment in people's #1 position? I mean, it should be worked on but let's get ourselves figured out first before saving trees and animals.


For me, it's a tie between the Iraq War & Economy. I'll go with the war though because I'd rather be a little more broke than having our soldiers dying for who knows what...

HoosierBoy
01-12-2008, 02:28 PM
lol

Why "lol"? I'm serious.

Melkor
01-12-2008, 02:37 PM
You don't have "grinding the massive government bureaucracy under the heel of the people". The government needs to be controlled, and drastically reduced.

BigMass
01-12-2008, 02:40 PM
almost every major issue in the US right now is either directly or indirectly related to foreign policy. I wish people would understand that.

LunicaAshes
01-12-2008, 02:52 PM
How is enviroment in people's #1 position? I mean, it should be worked on but let's get ourselves figured out first before saving trees and animals.

If we don't keep the environment from going to ****, it will effect us severely. Working on the environment IS "getting ourselves figured out." Aside from that, there's a lot going on with the environment right now that is irreversible if it keeps up, and can't wait for the next president.

I agree that the war and economy are huge issues, but resolving them won't mean **** if we keep up some of our irresponsible practices.

jackal337
01-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Assuming we don't have a nuclear winter, I doubt the planet will become uninhabitable within my lifetime.

Yeah, well the Earth is already severely damaged, and getting worse all the time. It may not become uninhabitable in your life time, but it will definitely happen in the near future. In the mean time, the generation that lives now will have to see horrible things happen like mass extinction of species and deforestation. That should be incentive enough for you to care, but if not, don't you care about the future generations of humans' ability to even SURVIVE, or do you say "**** 'em"?

jackal337
01-12-2008, 03:10 PM
If we don't keep the environment from going to ****, it will effect us severely. Working on the environment IS "getting ourselves figured out." Aside from that, there's a lot going on with the environment right now that is irreversible if it keeps up, and can't wait for the next president.

I agree that the war and economy are huge issues, but resolving them won't mean **** if we keep up some of our irresponsible practices.

Exactly. So many people don't realize that saving our environment means so much more than aesthetics.

whattheschmidt
01-12-2008, 03:12 PM
1. Economy
2. Iraq
3. Liberty

qft

4. Environment

trailwarrior
01-12-2008, 03:31 PM
almost every major issue in the US right now is either directly or indirectly related to foreign policy. I wish people would understand that.And who controls (http://www.johnperkins.org/Preface.htm) our foreign policy?


Confessions of an Economic Hit Man (http://www.johnperkins.org/Preface.htm)
By John Perkins

In their drive to advance the global empire, corporations, banks, and governments (collectively the corporatocracy) use their financial and political muscle to ensure that our schools, businesses, and the media support both the fallacious concept and its corollary. They have brought us to a point where our global culture is a monstrous machine that requires exponentially increasing amounts of fuel and maintenance, so much so that in the end it will have consumed everything in sight and will be left with no choice but to devour itself.

The corporatocracy is not a conspiracy, but its members do endorse common values and goals. One of corporatocracy's most important functions is to perpetuate and continually expand and strengthen the system. The lives of those who "make it," and their accouterments—their mansions, yachts, and private jets—are presented as models to inspire us all to consume, consume, consume. Every opportunity is taken to convince us that purchasing things is our civic duty, that pillaging the earth is good for the economy and therefore serves our higher interests. People like me are paid outrageously high salaries to do the system's bidding. If we falter, a more malicious form of hit man, the jackal, steps to the plate. And if the jackal fails, then the job falls to the military.




Thomas Jefferson:
3rd U.S. President 1801-1809
"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

James Madison:
4th U.S President 1809-1817
"There is an evil, which ought to be guarded against in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by...corporations. The power of all corporations ought to be limited in this respect. The growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses."

Andrew Jackson:
7th U.S. President 1829-1837
"Unless you become more watchful in your States and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of Government have been given or bartered away, and the control of your dearest interests have been passed into the hands of these corporations."

Thinman
01-12-2008, 03:36 PM
All of the issues are important. Right now, I would say the economy and the war.

catmando
01-12-2008, 04:00 PM
Yeah, well the Earth is already severely damaged, and getting worse all the time. It may not become uninhabitable in your life time, but it will definitely happen in the near future. In the mean time, the generation that lives now will have to see horrible things happen like mass extinction of species and deforestation. That should be incentive enough for you to care, but if not, don't you care about the future generations of humans' ability to even SURVIVE, or do you say "**** 'em"?
Clear-cutting the Amazon Basin should be at the top of every discussion on the environment. 25% of all the world's oxygen is generated there.

Heath22
01-12-2008, 04:03 PM
The continuance of the white race. I put it under illegal immigration although all issues are very important.

Beatitude
01-12-2008, 04:36 PM
Gosh, I can't decide, they're all so interconnected.

Chris187
01-12-2008, 04:47 PM
If we don't keep the environment from going to ****, it will effect us severely. Working on the environment IS "getting ourselves figured out." Aside from that, there's a lot going on with the environment right now that is irreversible if it keeps up, and can't wait for the next president.

I agree that the war and economy are huge issues, but resolving them won't mean **** if we keep up some of our irresponsible practices.


Exactly. So many people don't realize that saving our environment means so much more than aesthetics.


The environment should be at the top of everyones list. Without a habitable planet we have nothing, no economy, no life, no liberty, no happiness....


If we bring the WAR to an end, it will help our ECONOMY, and then we could focus our efforts and money into the ENVIRONMENT and IMMIGRATION.

History in Effect
01-12-2008, 05:02 PM
The War in Iraq is not important because its not going to end right now. Immigration bill will not be passed anytime soon. I will have to say getting our economy on better times, so people won't even think recession.

LunicaAshes
01-12-2008, 05:37 PM
If we bring the WAR to an end, it will help our ECONOMY, and then we could focus our efforts and money into the ENVIRONMENT and IMMIGRATION.

Absolutely, but if we vote based on the war alone, we could get someone in there that would end the war and then proceed in raping our natural resources and failing to curtail pollution, so we can't look at just that.

History in Effect
01-12-2008, 05:39 PM
Absolutely, but if we vote based on the war alone, we could get someone in there that would end the war and then proceed in raping our natural resources and failing to curtail pollution, so we can't look at just that.

who we going to vote for then? Ron Paul..cause nobody is leaving Iraq anytime soon

Chris187
01-12-2008, 05:43 PM
who we going to vote for then? Ron Paul..cause nobody is leaving Iraq anytime soon


Even if Ron Paul somehow got elected, there is no way he would/could get us home any faster than any other candidate. He can say that all he wants.....no way it would happen.

LunicaAshes
01-12-2008, 05:43 PM
who we going to vote for then? Ron Paul..cause nobody is leaving Iraq anytime soon

Have you checked out his environment stats?

History in Effect
01-12-2008, 05:45 PM
Have you checked out his environment stats?

I was being sarcastic. The environment does matter, but its not going to matter as much as other stuff. I just want 35 mpg for every car, reduction in carbon emissions, and a cap and trade system for big business

LunicaAshes
01-12-2008, 05:57 PM
I was being sarcastic. The environment does matter, but its not going to matter as much as other stuff. I just want 35 mpg for every car, reduction in carbon emissions, and a cap and trade system for big business

All of those things would be great. Also, if we can get out of Iraq, imagine all the money that could then be going into environmental causes... but more than likely it will go to other bull****.

History in Effect
01-12-2008, 06:03 PM
All of those things would be great. Also, if we can get out of Iraq, imagine all the money that could then be going into environmental causes... but more than likely it will go to other bull****.

A lot of people don't believe in global warming sadly. So you vote mainly on environmental issues first

user23960508710783
01-12-2008, 08:40 PM
This should be interesting

It's a little disturbing that you defined liberty as being solely about "the 2nd amendment/gun laws" -- I'm pretty sure there is a little more to it than that.

IraHays
01-12-2008, 08:42 PM
I. I just want 35 mpg for every car,

I think Bush just passed a law that by 2020 all cars must meet that standard.

hwpnow
01-12-2008, 08:46 PM
It's a little disturbing that you defined liberty as being solely about "the 2nd amendment/gun laws" -- I'm pretty sure there is a little more to it than that.

like what? pro-choice? gay marraige? You mainly hear about liberty when the issues of gun laws are concerned.

BlueBayou
01-12-2008, 09:21 PM
My top 3:

1) The stopping of the Globalist agenda ('the new world order') (The Iraq War falls under this FYI)

2) Welfare reform and ending the push into socialism - what happened to talk and concern about welfare reform? It used to be a major issue but now is never discussed, while at the same time the welfare state is growing out of control like a horribly bad weed that is choking off the forest.

3) No gun control!

sadstatue
06-03-2009, 08:37 PM
abortion

HoosierBoy
06-03-2009, 09:09 PM
abortion

The election is over. A guy named Obama won.

Ironstone-
06-03-2009, 11:01 PM
Immigration and Economy.
I voted for immigration expecting the majority of the people to vote for economy.. and guess what? lol