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kethnaab
01-01-2008, 06:06 PM
This QB had a helluva "season".

guess the QB, the team, and the team's final record for reps



yards TDs picks
Game 1 304 3 1
Game 2 303 4 0
Game 3 448 6 2
Game 4 267 3 0
Game 5 470 4 2
Game 6 235 2 0
Game 7 313 3 1
Game 8 254 4 1
Game 9 290 3 0
Game 10 427 3 2
Game 11 353 5 0
Game 12 218 3 1
Game 13 339 3 1
Game 14 286 3 1
Game 15 225 2 0
Game 16 262 3 0

Season totals 4994 54 12

edited - ;) (no, didn't adjust the stats, they are real)

m0fo
01-01-2008, 06:08 PM
Tom Brady, Pats, 16-0.

ReppinDaUSA
01-01-2008, 06:10 PM
This QB had a helluva season.

guess the QB, the team, and the team's final record for reps



yards TDs picks
Game 1 304 3 1
Game 2 303 4 0
Game 3 448 6 2
Game 4 267 3 0
Game 5 470 4 2
Game 6 235 2 0
Game 7 313 3 1
Game 8 254 4 1
Game 9 290 3 0
Game 10 427 3 2
Game 11 353 5 0
Game 12 218 3 1
Game 13 339 3 1
Game 14 286 3 1
Game 15 225 2 0
Game 16 262 3 0

Season totals 4994 54 12

A madden stat? No QB in the NFL has had a 54 td season, not 16 games in college system.

rampagefc77
01-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Tom Brady, Pats, 16-0.

No. Brady hasn't thrown at least 3 TDs every game. It has to be someone in college. Colt brennan? or possibly another from a texas school i believe?


edit- good call on the 16 weeks.... im gonna change my answer to nobody.

Stonecoldtruth
01-01-2008, 06:12 PM
Colt Brennan, Hawaii, 12-0

ReppinDaUSA
01-01-2008, 06:12 PM
No. Brady hasn't thrown at least 3 TDs every game. It has to be someone in college. Colt brennan? or possibly another from a texas school i believe?

Not 16 games in a college schedule, otherwise I would have guessed Brennan too

Rinkamd
01-01-2008, 06:13 PM
Fake stats....:D

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 06:15 PM
1) The stats are real
2) The stats are from the NFL
3) The stats are not from one single season
4) The stats ARE from a single QB playing on a single team, but over the course of a few years
5) You won't believe the team's record in those games

Continue to discuss. 4.4k reps for the first to get the answers (notice I didn't ask "which season" ;) )

-DC-
01-01-2008, 06:23 PM
Romo

bbacn123
01-01-2008, 06:26 PM
1) The stats are real
2) The stats are from the NFL
3) The stats are not from one single season
4) The stats ARE from a single QB playing on a single team, but over the course of a few years
5) You won't believe the team's record in those games

Continue to discuss. 4.4k reps for the first to get the answers (notice I didn't ask "which season" ;) )

lol...seriously? no ones gonna get that, especially the teams record part.

Rinkamd
01-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Paul Brown with the Browns?

rampagefc77
01-01-2008, 06:27 PM
record 0-16

ReppinDaUSA
01-01-2008, 06:27 PM
1) The stats are real
2) The stats are from the NFL
3) The stats are not from one single season
4) The stats ARE from a single QB playing on a single team, but over the course of a few years
5) You won't believe the team's record in those games

Continue to discuss. 4.4k reps for the first to get the answers (notice I didn't ask "which season" ;) )

You said "helluva season" which would denote a single season.

My guess Dan Fouts, San Diego Chargers

Ace50
01-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Rex Grossman

Lifted07Sierra
01-01-2008, 06:29 PM
Favre

grtrat1
01-01-2008, 06:29 PM
Montana, Marino?

bbacn123
01-01-2008, 06:30 PM
You said "helluva season" which would denote a single season.

My guess Dan Fouts, San Diego Chargers

The season part was in quotes though, as if to say that put together it would make for an incredible year.

newgene
01-01-2008, 06:31 PM
It looks to me like the summation of the best week, during each weekly slot, of a player who has played a very long time.

kethnaab, I know you're a Favre fan (no brady), so I'm guessing it's some time period (95-97?) or maybe some crappy time period (04-06?) where the team's record sucked, but if you picked selective slots, you woud have a really good record.

Am I close?

Lifted07Sierra
01-01-2008, 06:32 PM
Rex Grossman

Are you a ****ing retard? Honestly

BBGAMBINI31
01-01-2008, 06:38 PM
warner
edit marino,cuz of the 470 yards against the raiders in 1984,when the dolphins lost
games 2,3,4,11,16 are the only impressive games to have not won
the rest theres a lot of qbs who don't win with those stats
besides game 1,2,11 he never have >117 qb rating,not really dominating
the 1st 2 games were close games 2

fivas15
01-01-2008, 06:40 PM
This is impossible to figure out inless you have the answer in front of you.

collegeBBer
01-01-2008, 06:42 PM
This question sucks ass lol

Stonecoldtruth
01-01-2008, 06:43 PM
The QB: Marino
The Team: Dolphins
Record this year: 1-15

SCT

Stonecoldtruth
01-01-2008, 06:45 PM
And at least some of the stats came from the 84 season where the dolphins went 3-13

Lifted07Sierra
01-01-2008, 06:46 PM
It was DAN MARINO

ReppinDaUSA
01-01-2008, 06:47 PM
The QB: Marino
The Team: Dolphins
Record this year: 1-15

SCT


I think you're right

Lifted07Sierra
01-01-2008, 06:47 PM
damn it you beat me to it by 2 mins

I search yahoo for 448yds and dan marino came up lol

Stonecoldtruth
01-01-2008, 06:48 PM
I think you're right

I know I am... :D

http://media.theinsiders.com/Media/doc/18/189338.PDF

ReppinDaUSA
01-01-2008, 06:51 PM
I know I am... :D

http://media.theinsiders.com/Media/doc/18/189338.PDF

Bah I was close with Fouts

bbacn123
01-01-2008, 07:00 PM
Marino, Dolphins, 0-16

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 07:02 PM
Ben Roethlisberger's best games.

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 07:15 PM
record 0-16


The QB: Marino
The Team: Dolphins
Record this year: 1-15

SCT

so close!


Marino, Dolphins, 0-16


and there it is

Dan Marino, over his career, lost games like this (and many more)

that .pdf file is neat, I didn't see that. I just went off of what I could get from www.nfl.com

After hearing so many people ramble on about how Marino didn't have any rings so he was inferior, I decided to do a little pimpslapping.

All of those games were from Marino's career, regular season or post-season (no exhibitions or pro bowls)

Yes, he passed for 353 yards, 5 TDs, 0 picks, and STILL LOST.

Every one of those. and believe me, there are a good 10-15 more games just like this, I just picked out some of the better ones that stuck out like a sore thumb.

So those are 16 games that the Dolphins lost while Marino completely dominated. His passer rating during those 16 games was somewhere around 125ish. 54 TDs, 12 picks, 4994 yards.

Not a bad "season" for a guy on an 0-16 team, eh?

Keep that in mind next time we get into the discussion about team results (i.e. Super Bowl rings) as they correlate to QB performance.

Oh yeah, Marino played 17 seasons. Guess how many 1000-yard backs played alongside him?

Answer - 1. Karim Abdul-Jabar, 1117.

He never had another guy break 950 in his entire career.

Think he had to go up against defenses that were focused on stopping him?

Think "play-option" was ever an option for him?

Think he ever faced 8 in the box?

Think again.

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 07:16 PM
just bringing this to the back for ease of access




yards TDs picks
Game 1 304 3 1
Game 2 303 4 0
Game 3 448 6 2
Game 4 267 3 0
Game 5 470 4 2
Game 6 235 2 0
Game 7 313 3 1
Game 8 254 4 1
Game 9 290 3 0
Game 10 427 3 2
Game 11 353 5 0
Game 12 218 3 1
Game 13 339 3 1
Game 14 286 3 1
Game 15 225 2 0
Game 16 262 3 0

Season totals 4994 54 12

Stonecoldtruth
01-01-2008, 07:22 PM
You did not make it clear what record you were seeking, I'm not one to bitch but overall this thread is just about worthless :D

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 07:28 PM
You did not make it clear what record you were seeking, I'm not one to bitch but overall this thread is just about worthless :D

actually, no it's not.

It has a very direct purpose. I stated it already.

I used it to demonstrate that team performance does not always equal player performance, including QB performance.

It is very relevant for a few reasons

1) Brady just broke the TD record on a team that is 16-0, yet Marino had more TDs and yards in games his team lost

2) We have been discussing (in a variety of threads) who the best QB is, and Marino consistently gets disregarded because he has not won a SB

So, perhaps *you* didn't get the message, but others who have been involved in the above-mentioned conversations did.


guess the QB, the team, and the team's final "record" for reps


You did not make it clear what record you were seeking

*blinks*


guess the QB, the team, and the team's final "record" for reps

Stonecoldtruth
01-01-2008, 07:32 PM
actually, no it's not.

It has a very direct purpose. I stated it already.

I used it to demonstrate that team performance does not always equal player performance, including QB performance.

It is very relevant for a few reasons

1) Brady just broke the TD record on a team that is 16-0, yet Marino had more TDs and yards in games his team lost

2) We have been discussing (in a variety of threads) who the best QB is, and Marino consistently gets disregarded because he has not won a SB

So, perhaps *you* didn't get the message, but others who have been involved in the above-mentioned conversations did.

O.K. then, so the moral of the story is that you make a thread with a non-clearly defined question asked, and then you expect us to all follow your train of thought? It was OBVIOUS from the first few responses that your question was asked in an e-tarded way, so to express my distaste of your style, negs on recharge... (yes I realize you have more neg power than me :) )

SCT

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 08:00 PM
O.K. then, so the moral of the story is that you make a thread with a non-clearly defined question asked, and then you expect us to all follow your train of thought? It was OBVIOUS from the first few responses that your question was asked in an e-tarded way, so to express my distaste of your style, negs on recharge... (yes I realize you have more neg power than me :) )

SCT

uh, yeah, whatever. Half a dozen other people in this thread knew what was going on. Sorry it was too complex for you to follow.

BBGAMBINI31
01-01-2008, 08:06 PM
so close!




and there it is

Dan Marino, over his career, lost games like this (and many more)

that .pdf file is neat, I didn't see that. I just went off of what I could get from www.nfl.com

After hearing so many people ramble on about how Marino didn't have any rings so he was inferior, I decided to do a little pimpslapping.

All of those games were from Marino's career, regular season or post-season (no exhibitions or pro bowls)

Yes, he passed for 353 yards, 5 TDs, 0 picks, and STILL LOST.

Every one of those. and believe me, there are a good 10-15 more games just like this, I just picked out some of the better ones that stuck out like a sore thumb.

So those are 16 games that the Dolphins lost while Marino completely dominated. His passer rating during those 16 games was somewhere around 135ish. 54 TDs, 12 picks, 4994 yards.

Not a bad "season" for a guy on an 0-16 team, eh?

Keep that in mind next time we get into the discussion about team results (i.e. Super Bowl rings) as they correlate to QB performance.

Oh yeah, Marino played 17 seasons. Guess how many 1000-yard backs played alongside him?

Answer - 1. Karim Abdul-Jabar, 1117.

He never had another guy break 950 in his entire career.

Think he had to go up against defenses that were focused on stopping him?

Think "play-option" was ever an option for him?

Think he ever faced 8 in the box?

Think again.

135ish passer rating??more like 115

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 08:12 PM
135ish passer rating??

yup (EDIT - oops, just realized I put 135. I meant 125)

high TD/completion and yards/attempt, low interceptions/attempt = EXTREMELY high passer rating

passer rating has a tendency to grossly overrate (IMHO) the importance of yards/attempt as well as TD/attempt.

On the plus side, it minimizes the positive effect of all the little "dink" passes that some QBs can throw to inflate their completion percentage. On the negative side, it overemphasizes the deep bomb (which is as much an efficiency test of the WR as it is the QB) as well as highly rewarding a short field or a solid running attack (due to the higher frequency of TD passes)

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:14 PM
kethnaab-

I see what your doing here...but I must ask why? You could do this for a couple QB's actually. If you took the QB's stats from games they lost, there would be plenty of good numbers. Since all those games didn't happen in the SAME season...those stats are irrelevant.

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 08:16 PM
kethnaab-

I see what your doing here...but I must ask why? You could do this for a couple QB's actually. If you took the QB's stats from games they lost, there would be plenty of good numbers. Since all those games didn't happen in the SAME season...those stats are irrelevant.

Find 16 games where Favre, Brady and Manning lost while posting similar stats.

The reason is to demonstrate how ridiculously bad the Dolphins were throughout Marino's career and how much they relied on Marino.

Again, the point being

team performance != QB performance
QB performance != team performance

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Find 16 games where Favre, Brady and Manning lost while posting similar stats.

The reason is to demonstrate how ridiculously bad the Dolphins were and how much they relied on Marino.

I'm not going to take the time tonight, I might put together something for a Steelers QB or something. I think Ben Roethlisberger would have some of the same sort of numbers. I'm not fighting in defense of Favre, Brady, or Manning...

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:24 PM
23-41, 333 Yards, 5 TD, 0 INTs

There are plenty of QB's with numbers like this.

Matt Hasselbeck 11/23/2003 @ BAL

So if you really took the time to look at every game that QB lost, and took thier "good" numbers, its not really that hard to find...

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 08:36 PM
23-41, 333 Yards, 5 TD, 0 INTs

There are plenty of QB's with numbers like this.

Matt Hasselbeck 11/23/2003 @ BAL

So if you really took the time to look at every game that QB lost, and took thier "good" numbers, its not really that hard to find...

my point is the sheer # that one guy had, combined with the # of records he's set.

Again, it ties back to the "greatest QB ever" discussion

Barry Sanders gets tons of credit as a RB and almost everyone says "he was that good despite playing on a crappy team", yet Marino did the same thing but people seem to have forgotten how good he was and how crappy the Fins were. :)

Negatron617
01-01-2008, 08:38 PM
let the man do what he wants
if he didnt take his time to make this thread youd all be pressing the refresh button hoping something other than a rep bet thread is up

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:46 PM
my point is the sheer # that one guy had, combined with the # of records he's set.

Again, it ties back to the "greatest QB ever" discussion

Barry Sanders gets tons of credit as a RB and almost everyone says "he was that good despite playing on a crappy team", yet Marino did the same thing but people seem to have forgotten how good he was and how crappy the Fins were. :)

I don't forget how good he was. In a whole, I do believe he gets snubbed a little bit because he doesn't have a ring. I would probably put him in the Top 3 of best QB's ever though. And no I'm not a Brady nuthugger, but he's damn close to getting up there too.

Nutella!
01-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Dan Marnio = no superbowl rings


hahaa, just playing your obsessed with him though.

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Dan Marnio = no superbowl rings


hahaa, just playing your obsessed with him though.

If we are going by sheer superbowl rings then Terry Bradshaw gets the nod w/ 4 :)

Negatron617
01-01-2008, 08:51 PM
the thing about marino is that he didnt have any last minute last possession playoffs win. he might but im not aware of any
if qbs like manning and brady DO have numbers almost as good AND they have game winning last minute playoffs drives then they looka little better and more valuable
it sucks that marinos team let him down but he never produced in crunch time aka the playoffs.....but it is what it is
plus i was too young to see him play but i have seen him drop 20 pounds effortlessly thanks to NutriSystem for men....lol

BBGAMBINI31
01-01-2008, 08:52 PM
manning has had a lot of good games in which the colts have still lost
i remember against houston last yr 21/27 205 yards 3 tds 135.3 qb ratin
it was a close game

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:54 PM
the thing about marino is that he didnt have any last minute last possession playoffs win. he might but im not aware of any
if qbs like manning and brady DO have numbers almost as good AND they have game winning last minute playoffs drives then they looka little better and more valuable
it sucks that marinos team let him down but he never produced in crunch time aka the playoffs.....but it is what it is
plus i was too young to see him play but i have seen him drop 20 pounds effortlessly thanks to NutriSystem for men....lol

Trent Dilfer won a SB w/ no weapons. Just sayin :)

dontcare
01-01-2008, 08:55 PM
who gives a ****?
He never won a super bowl.
He'd probably give up every stat he owns for a Ring.
So the moral of the story is, it sucks to be Dan Marino.

Negatron617
01-01-2008, 08:55 PM
but his defense was sick....thats what i meant by marinos team letting him down.....his team had a whack defense....he had to win games.....dilfer tried not to lose them

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:56 PM
who gives a ****?
He never won a super bowl.
He'd probably give up every stat he owns for a Ring.
So the moral of the story is, it sucks to be Dan Marino.

And his records are being broken by Brett Favre!

SwoleOne
01-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Brady Quinn

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Brady Quinn

Sucks :confused:

Negatron617
01-01-2008, 09:00 PM
balls?

Veeshmack
01-01-2008, 09:04 PM
Brady Quinn
Sucks :confused:


balls?


twice...

Nutella!
01-01-2008, 09:04 PM
If we are going by sheer superbowl rings then Terry Bradshaw gets the nod w/ 4 :)

is terry bradshaw > joe montana??!

FormulaLT1poweR
01-01-2008, 09:09 PM
is terry bradshaw > joe montana??!

Sure he got 4 rings faster :)

kethnaab
01-01-2008, 10:05 PM
I'd love to say that Terry is better, but I just can't do it. :)

Joe Montana is the best QB in the history of the NFL

(but Terry is way funnier!)

beer n brats
01-02-2008, 01:10 AM
I'd love to say that Terry is better, but I just can't do it. :)

Joe Montana is the best QB in the history of the NFL

(but Terry is way funnier!)

good stuff, i always have been a fan of marino and never use sb's against any qb. he is the most talented qb ever and still think his 84 season was better than any in history.

however. montana was defenatly the most clutch, but as far as greatest qb ever that can be easily debated. i think dan marino, brett favre, johnny unitas, john elway and even peyton manning can rival joes career with theirs, whether it being sb's, stats, playoff games, who had better teams or everything.

bbacn123
01-02-2008, 01:52 AM
Marino, Dolphins, 0-16


I thought I was supposed to get reps for this. (no rep whore)

kethnaab
01-02-2008, 04:59 AM
gotta recharge

BBGAMBINI31
01-02-2008, 04:30 PM
kethnaab you consider an 87.5,82.9 qb rating dominating an opponent?
i was bored and i found manning to have 18 games in which hes team lost with a qb rating better than 90

kethnaab
01-02-2008, 06:42 PM
kethnaab you consider an 87.5,82.9 qb rating dominating an opponent?
i was bored and i found manning to have 18 games in which hes team lost with a qb rating better than 90

I have no clue what you're talking about

QB rating is not dominating. TDs and yards passed is dominating.

The opponent doesn't care what your QB rating is, but if you rack up yards and several TDs, then your opponent cares.

BBGAMBINI31
01-02-2008, 06:56 PM
I have no clue what you're talking about

QB rating is not dominating. TDs and yards passed is dominating.

The opponent doesn't care what your QB rating is, but if you rack up yards and several TDs, then your opponent cares.

am talking about 2 games where marino got those ratings in which you put on ur list,you said he dominated
yes he had 427 yards,3tds,but he also got 2 ints,not really dominating for a 87.5 rating,
if he has over 100 qb rating then maybe its dominating,
2 ints is not dominating

kethnaab
01-03-2008, 02:38 PM
am talking about 2 games where marino got those ratings in which you put on ur list,you said he dominated
yes he had 427 yards,3tds,but he also got 2 ints,not really dominating for a 87.5 rating,
if he has over 100 qb rating then maybe its dominating,
2 ints is not dominating

QB rating is borderline irrelevant.

427 yards isn't dominating? You realize that means he carried the entire damn team on his back despite the opposition ignoring the run (with good reason)

You also conveniently neglect the other 15 games, including the 7 games where he threw 22 TDs, 0 interceptions and 1933 yards, (average 3+ TDs, 0 picks, 276 yards per game) yet lost all 7.

You conveniently ignore the 448 yards/6 TD performance, as well as the 6 other games where he threw a total of 25 TDs, 8 picks, 2162 yards (average 309 yards per game, 3.5 TDs per game, 1.1 pick per game)

So basically, you picked out the worst game from that list and based your entire argument off it. I went through the first half of Marino's career and picked out those games without trying. He had multiple games like that every single season.

BBGAMBINI31
01-03-2008, 02:50 PM
QB rating is borderline irrelevant.

427 yards isn't dominating? You realize that means he carried the entire damn team on his back despite the opposition ignoring the run (with good reason)

You also conveniently neglect the other 15 games, including the 7 games where he threw 22 TDs, 0 interceptions and 1933 yards, (average 3+ TDs, 0 picks, 276 yards per game) yet lost all 7.

You conveniently ignore the 448 yards/6 TD performance, as well as the 6 other games where he threw a total of 25 TDs, 8 picks, 2162 yards (average 309 yards per game, 3.5 TDs per game, 1.1 pick per game)

So basically, you picked out the worst game from that list and based your entire argument off it. I went through the first half of Marino's career and picked out those games without trying. He had multiple games like that every single season.

i based it on that,because those are the games he didn't dominate in,yet you put it on your list,,
yes 448 yards/6 td, you conveniently left off the 2 ints
am sure he had more games like this,am just saying you shouldn't have included those 2 games in that list to be dominating
it wasn't his worst game on that list,the worst game was
18/37 218 yards 3tds 1 int

kethnaab
01-03-2008, 07:26 PM
i based it on that,because those are the games he didn't dominate in,yet you put it on your list,,
yes 448 yards/6 td, you conveniently left off the 2 ints

no, I didn't. I included them in the total.

Here's a few more decent games that Marino lost while playing okay.



353 yards, 5 TDs, 0 int
267 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
262 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
235 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
448 yards, 6 TDs, 2 int
266 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int
286 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int
287 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
276 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
225 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
286 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
218 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
254 yards, 4 TDs, 1 int
339 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
313 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
304 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
338 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
323 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
321 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
303 yards, 4 TDs, 0 int
290 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
295 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
289 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
274 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
470 yards, 4 TDs, 2 int
427 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int


All losses

average = 305.7 yards per game, 3.09 TDs per game, 0.9 interceptions per game.

So rounding off, Marino averaged 306 yards per game, 3 TDs, 1 interception in 26 losses.

BBGAMBINI31
01-03-2008, 08:48 PM
no, I didn't. I included them in the total.

Here's a few more decent games that Marino lost while playing okay.



353 yards, 5 TDs, 0 int
267 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
262 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
235 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
448 yards, 6 TDs, 2 int
266 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int
286 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int
287 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
276 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
225 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
286 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
218 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
254 yards, 4 TDs, 1 int
339 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
313 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
304 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
338 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
323 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
321 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
303 yards, 4 TDs, 0 int
290 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
295 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
289 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
274 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
470 yards, 4 TDs, 2 int
427 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int


All losses

average = 305.7 yards per game, 3.09 TDs per game, 0.9 interceptions per game.

So rounding off, Marino averaged 306 yards per game, 3 TDs, 1 interception in 26 losses.

you added what 10 more games,am pretty sure other qbs have had okay games and lost,but i don't think anyone as much as him,i have to check for a qb that's retired to see
still it sucks he had no defense,,or a running game

kethnaab
01-03-2008, 09:01 PM
17 seasons

1 season in all those 17, he had a 1000-yard rusher

weakguy
01-03-2008, 11:54 PM
no, I didn't. I included them in the total.

Here's a few more decent games that Marino lost while playing okay.



353 yards, 5 TDs, 0 int
267 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
262 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
235 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
448 yards, 6 TDs, 2 int
266 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int
286 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int
287 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
276 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
225 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
286 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
218 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
254 yards, 4 TDs, 1 int
339 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
313 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
304 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int
338 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
323 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
321 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
303 yards, 4 TDs, 0 int
290 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int
295 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
289 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
274 yards, 2 TDs, 1 int
470 yards, 4 TDs, 2 int
427 yards, 3 TDs, 2 int


All losses

average = 305.7 yards per game, 3.09 TDs per game, 0.9 interceptions per game.

So rounding off, Marino averaged 306 yards per game, 3 TDs, 1 interception in 26 losses. man i would be pissed to throw for 450 yards and 6 TDs and lose. that blows