View Full Version : Did Jesus of Nazareth exist? 'The Pagan Christ' explores this very question

12-24-2007, 02:35 PM
It's documentary on CBC aired ealier this month. This is not so indepth as a book and only goes through the main points.

the rest



There are 2.1 billion Christians on the planet ? roughly one third of the entire human population. At the heart of their religion is the New Testament and the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. To Christianity, the written word is the glue that binds the faith of its followers.

So, what if it could be proven that Jesus never existed? What if there was evidence that every word of the New Testament ? the cornerstone of Christianity ? is based on myth and metaphor?

Tom HarpurBased on Tom Harpur?s national bestseller, The Pagan Christ examines these very questions. During his research, Harpur discovered that the New Testament is wholly based on Egyptian mythology, that Jesus Christ never lived, and that ? indeed ? the text was always meant to be read allegorically. It was the founders of the Church who duped the world into taking a literal approach to the scriptures. And, according to Harpur, this was their fatal error - and the very reason Christianity is struggling today.

The mission of The Pagan Christ is not to accelerate Christianity?s slow demise, but to breath new life into its holy book and, in the process, bring the world a richer, more spiritual faith.

12-24-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm an athiest and I believe he existed

12-24-2007, 02:47 PM
Read (or watch the movie version of) "the Case for Christ".

Whether you believe his message or not, Jesus existed. /thread

12-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Read (or watch the movie version of) "the Case for Christ".

Whether you believe his message or not, Jesus existed. /thread

That is what the doc is about.

/open thread

12-25-2007, 03:24 PM
Read (or watch the movie version of) "the Case for Christ".

Whether you believe his message or not, Jesus existed. /thread

What he said. Christ definitely was a real person.

=T Bone=
12-25-2007, 03:27 PM
I belive most people agree that Jesus Existed, or at least the smart one's. :p

12-25-2007, 07:42 PM
Jesus existed. It's probably his divinity people have a hard time believing. The Christian Church (Catholic Church) had to defend his divinity long time ago. Thanks. :)

(at least I think they did) :)

12-25-2007, 10:29 PM
Jesus was a very popular name back then, so it is true that the real Jesus may have not existed or was based on the life of another person, like Appolonius of Tyana. To be a Christian, you must have alot of faith and keep your mind closed.

12-25-2007, 10:39 PM
People knew Jesus because of what he did. His apostles knew what he did. So if an archeologist found a tomb that said "Jesus" and had bones in it, we can clarify that this is not Jesus Christ because of the truth already established that he has risen.

12-25-2007, 11:53 PM
Can anyone tell me who this is......

Now let's see ...
born from a god and a mortal virgin mother.
while still an infant, a jealous goddess, tried to kill him.
performed miraculous deeds.
descended into Hades.
died in agony.
rose again as a god.
He's mentioned by Tacitus, Josephus and others and has paintings of him carrying a cross.

The info above is talking about Hercules, so as you can see, just because historians write about a certain person.....doesn't make him real.

The following refers to Horus and predated Christ by 1000's of years....

Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph").*He was of royal descent. At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.

Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated.

He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").

He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead.
Horus walked on water.

His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."

He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."
Horus was transfigured on the Mount.

He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.

He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God's Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc.

He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion. He came to fulfill the Law. Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One." Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years

Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus; with Kneph, the 'Holy Ghost', impregnating the virgin; and with the infant being attended by three kings, or magi, bearing gifts. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis?the original 'Madonna and Child'