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jamiepo
04-09-2005, 11:29 PM
I really love to put soysauce with everything and I mean everything, Fish, chicken, rice 3 or 4 meals out of my 6 meals daily, does anyone know if I am taking in too much sodium this way???

Body_Builder
04-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Doesn't soy sauce have TONS of sodium?

taffer
04-09-2005, 11:32 PM
yeah, watch that sodium:potassium ratio, if you eat alot of soy sauce and condiments it can be very hard to control

creed428
04-09-2005, 11:35 PM
get the lower sodium soy sauce only had about half the sodium as regular so then you can either take in less sodium or use twice as much haha :)

xenithon
04-10-2005, 12:24 AM
Soy is great, but even the low-sodium varieties have around 500mg per 100ml. That adds add very quickly if you use it very often. Also for anyone who has any (even slight) skin problems, try going 2-3 weeks without soy sauce. When I ditched it my skin cleared up fantastically. When I tried it again the skin started becoming more discolored and irritated etc. so that took soy out of my diet for good.

X

tongueincheeeck
04-10-2005, 02:06 AM
I wouldnt worry about it... Get the low sodium variety and have as much as you like; and if the low sodium variety is no good, just go back to your normal one...! AFAIK, sodium is only bad (considering we all drink TONS of h20) as far a water retention goes; which is a very inidivdual thing... Do YOU feel like your holding too much water? Personally, I wouldnt be worried that some 180lb armchair nutrionist/bodybuilder got worried about holding 0.2lb of water more than he should be, so decided all sodium is evil [insert soy sauce here], and products high in should be ABOLISHED!!!!


On a side note here; is there actualy any bad results that could come from this guy ingesting an extra thousand or 2 sodium a day from this use of soysauce? Am I giving out BAD advice!?!? :O

iceman338
04-10-2005, 08:43 AM
On a side note here; is there actualy any bad results that could come from this guy ingesting an extra thousand or 2 sodium a day from this use of soysauce? Am I giving out BAD advice!?!? :O

Excess sodium is bad for you in many ways...for example...excess salt's, when dissolved into your system, create more free radicals and ions which hinder regular cell metabolism and accelerate senesence (aging) as well as slowing repair of regular day to day tissue damage.

Of course, that is only one problem with access sodium in your body, do a quick search even on google and you are bound to find many other scientific studies done on the affects of too much sodium.

TinyMan
04-10-2005, 09:52 AM
My answer to soy sauce is to use Worchester sauce. It has a stronger taste (more pleasant to me actually), and has far less sodium in it. Next time you're at the supermarket, check it out. I think you'll be surprised at how well that can replace soy sauce. I used to like soy sauce, but I don't even want to have it anymore, and I cut down the sodium intake substantially.

Tinyman

Neil_I
04-10-2005, 10:44 AM
I believe that although the Japanese are generally healthier than us Westeners, they tend to have far higher incidences of some cancer, due to their high sodium intakes.
So watch it!

scarybubba
04-10-2005, 10:49 AM
I believe that although the Japanese are generally healthier than us Westeners, they tend to have far higher incidences of some cancer, due to their high sodium intakes.
So watch it!

I call bull****.
Americans consume as much sodium if not more than the japanese.

Cancer is not dependant upon soy sauce.

iceman338
04-10-2005, 10:52 AM
I believe that although the Japanese are generally healthier than us Westeners, they tend to have far higher incidences of some cancer, due to their high sodium intakes.
So watch it!


Ummm...this is just not true! Please be careful what u say, blurting out stuff like that is not wise.

Do you think Japanese people eat the way we eat at 'japanese restaurants' here everyday and every meal?? No, they don't smother everything they eat with copious amounts of soy sauce, and no, they don't ahve higher instances of cancer...we eat the salty soy sauce smothered meals here because we like the taste and it's a treat, they do not eat like this all the time.

Maybe you should think before you post...

iceman338
04-10-2005, 10:53 AM
I call bull****.
Americans consume as much sodium if not more than the japanese.

Cancer is not dependant upon soy sauce.

I bump to that! i was writing my previous psot whilst u posted this...

just because soy sauce is high in sodium you assume japanese people have a high intake of sodium? Man...get your facts straight...

scarybubba
04-10-2005, 11:05 AM
yeah man...

geez the ignorance of some people...
example;
I live in Hong Kong and thanks to that I know that a lot of chinese food can be healthy yet most people freak out at the thought of chinese and classify it as a cheat....

their loss :D

Neil_I
04-11-2005, 08:29 AM
Uh, if I'm wrong, I apologise.

But having said that, This report (http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/090104salt.html) by a British health provider clearly states that the link between salty food and stomach cancer is more evident in Japan.

This one (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3370141.stm) from the BBC says that as the Japanese move away from their salty/pickled traditional diets, the stomach cancer rates drop.

And, in this article (http://www.althealth.co.uk/services/info/ailments/stomach_cancer1.php) the link between stomach cancer and salty food is also pointed out.

I'm not saying its all down to Soy sauce, just watch your Sodium levels.

Oh and you can apolgise if you want.

iceman338
04-11-2005, 08:49 AM
I never said that sodium levels do not have adverse effects, including things like cancer. I simply said that Westerners probably have just as much sodium in their diets as japanese, if not more. Studies can be done to link sodium intake to stomach cancer in any country/culture. THe reason it's such a big deal in Japan is because cancer rates of types other than stomach are low when compared to our Western society; thus making the study easier and more relevant. Also, doing a demographic study such as that in a country where rates of cancer are lower and diets are quite healthy (compared to western society) reduces the margin of error in the results since there are less variables to track, thus making the results more rigorous.

I'll apologize for being harsh before, but not for saying i disagree with you.

jamiepo
04-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Thanks for all of the posts guy, I never thought of replacing soy with worstershire, great idea, tried it for lucnh today and it was really good!!
I found out that the RDI for sodium was 1000mg-2500mg so i would have to drink like 500ml perday of the low sodium soy to top that, but a high sodium intake means that you expell alot more calcium, which means the calcium supliments we all take are just going straight down the pisser.

Neil_I
04-12-2005, 01:59 PM
I never said that sodium levels do not have adverse effects, including things like cancer. I simply said that Westerners probably have just as much sodium in their diets as japanese, if not more. Studies can be done to link sodium intake to stomach cancer in any country/culture. THe reason it's such a big deal in Japan is because cancer rates of types other than stomach are low when compared to our Western society; thus making the study easier and more relevant. Also, doing a demographic study such as that in a country where rates of cancer are lower and diets are quite healthy (compared to western society) reduces the margin of error in the results since there are less variables to track, thus making the results more rigorous.

I'll apologize for being harsh before, but not for saying i disagree with you.

That's cool, we're all here to help each other out and provide information! :)

Maximum6
04-12-2005, 03:30 PM
yeah man...

geez the ignorance of some people...
example;
I live in Hong Kong and thanks to that I know that a lot of chinese food can be healthy yet most people freak out at the thought of chinese and classify it as a cheat....

their loss :D


sorry bro...but i just went to hong kong..and there is nothing healthy there except when i went to 7-eleven to pic up some water and 0.3% fat free milk.
and the bananas i picked up too....

scarybubba
04-12-2005, 04:23 PM
Well considering you went there on holiday and ive lived there all my life, and my parents grew up there and can cook chinese (even though were not) and knowing the right places to eat...kinda makes a whole difference :) its one of the best places to eat out for health food if u know where, dont think 7-11 is somewhere ud usually go america, or hong kong to get the best food.