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josh jr
01-14-2005, 03:39 PM
Hi guys:
I am soon to undergo heart bypass surgery and I was wondering if you older guys,(like myself) have ran into any bodybuilders that have gotten back into good shape after the surgery.

I know that Danny Padilla and Boyer Coe have had the surgery but I can't find anything telling me if they were able to continue lifting after the surgery.

If any of you have read anything or just have some advice please point me towards it..

thanks

TrishB
01-14-2005, 03:46 PM
Josh....it takes a 8-12 months for healing to be complete after bypass surgery. So don't plan on real heavy upper body lifting for awhile.

You'll gradually be able to start lifting after 8 weeks....but you will be starting with 10lbs and working from there.

I hope your surgery goes well.

vol
01-14-2005, 08:14 PM
Iíve heard of a guy that had an aortic valve replacement and still works out. It wasnít a CABG, but he still had his chest cracked and was on the pump.

Arnold's his name I think :-)

Ireland
01-15-2005, 04:07 AM
When you say older how old ? My uncle had a heart operation at 54 .He never lifted before started to later .He lifted lite and walked daily .He was in better shape couple of years after his operation then he had been since he was 18 he told me once .

josh jr
01-15-2005, 05:16 AM
When you say older how old ? My uncle had a heart operation at 54 .He never lifted before started to later .He lifted lite and walked daily .He was in better shape couple of years after his operation then he had been since he was 18 he told me once .

I am only 49, but the thought of life without lifting bothers me a lot..I just can't believe that there in nothing being writthen about the benifits of weight lifting for heart health and recovery.

I could see that possibly it would be bad if the people were heart attack candidates, but I am just having a bypass and the heart itself is good. It seems to me that once the new pipes are put in I should be able to go back to heavy lifting once everything is heald..

I have read some posts about mountain bikers and others being able to go back to riding on a regular basis but little else..

If anyone else has any ideas please post them but I probably want reply for awhile becasue I have to get this thing done on Monday..Having it in front of you really plays with your mind if you know what I mean..

batteryrequired
01-15-2005, 07:52 AM
The only thing you probably will not be able to do is lift extremly heavy...like pushing the weight that you can only do 3 reps or less. Because of your sternum being split open and now just wired closed its not as strong as it was. I believe that is what Arnold S. was saying after his surgery. He has to lift weights that require 8-12 reps now and staying away from the heavy bench and squats that put tremendous pressure on his chest. Ask your doctor too, they have physical therapists at the heart centers to help people out. Good Luck

benz0118
01-15-2005, 11:19 AM
Hi guys:
I am soon to undergo heart bypass surgery and I was wondering if you older guys,(like myself) have ran into any bodybuilders that have gotten back into good shape after the surgery.

I know that Danny Padilla and Boyer Coe have had the surgery but I can't find anything telling me if they were able to continue lifting after the surgery.

If any of you have read anything or just have some advice please point me towards it..

thanks

Heard that Danny was planning to do the 2004 Masters Olympia until it was cancelled. Saw pictures of him in a recent MD and he looked good.

Stuart Rudolph
01-17-2005, 04:47 AM
Iíve heard of a guy that had an aortic valve replacement and still works out. It wasnít a CABG, but he still had his chest cracked and was on the pump.

Arnold's his name I think :-)

Yes, that was me. It was a virus that I received from a cat scratch. It gave me high fevers and attatched itself to my aortic valve, basically dissolving the leaflets that form the valve. Pretty wicked stuff.

I had servere heart palpitations, arrythmia, and a murmur. I was in a state of congestive heart failure. I was told I had only days left. Prognosis open heart surgery.

I was in the hospital for 2 weeks. I went from 202 lbs. to about 168 lbs. At 5'll I was a rail. I was out of work for 6 weeks. I've been lifting on and off since I was 16. My surgery was in May of 2003, and I slowly got back into lifting by August. (Very Slowly) It was like I was 16 again, skinny and weak. Now I've gained all the muscle back and them some. I'm now 222 lbs. with 7% BF.

I have a titanium valve, and I'll be on blood thinners for the rest of my life. Now I have to stay away from caffeine and such. I was told that once ny sternum heals, my chest will actually be stronger from the new bone growth, and the metal wire that held my ribcage together during the healing process. It's still there.

But I'm leary about doing bench presses. Because when I do my behind the head tricep routine, the first few reps the middle of my chest crackles, like when when you pop your knuckles. There's no pain. So I work my chest by doing a ton of push-ups.

So yes, there is a weightlifting life after open heart surgery. Just take it slow. (Very Slow)

God Bless

TrishB
01-17-2005, 08:26 AM
Good post Stu!
You never know how one's health can change dramatically in just an instant....no matter how good of shape we are in.
I'm glad you made such a great recovery. :)

joed
01-17-2005, 04:12 PM
Josh Jr.: I had a CABG without a heart attack 9 yrs ago. You can return to resistance training but not for awhile. You'll be facing a long and very difficult recovery; no way to sugar coat it. For me it began when I went home 5 days post-surgery & began walking (hobbling) 1 minute twice a day, then adding a minute every day or two. I won't go into the gruesome details. Persistence is crucial.

If you're interested in what's been written, a good place to start is the Physician and Sportsmedicine website www.physsportsmed.com. There's an article by Michael Cox in Vol 25, #12, Dec 97 that discusses exercise for coronary artery disease. Lots of references there which will lead you to other places. Keep your chin up.

Stuart Rudolph
01-18-2005, 02:53 AM
Good post Stu!
You never know how one's health can change dramatically in just an instant....no matter how good of shape we are in.
I'm glad you made such a great recovery. :)

Yes, it was quite a scare when my doctor told me I had to have surgery. But it was either that, or being 6 foot under in a matter of days. No gray area there!

Because of what I went through, I've become very close to the Lord, and every morning when I open my eyes, I thank Him for another new day. When you come that close to "Kicking The Bucket", you really do have a new revelation on life, and know how fragile life truly is.

CdnArctic
01-18-2005, 07:32 AM
Just wanted to give you my best wishes for a full recovery!

cycle55
11-27-2010, 12:03 AM
Josh i had a 4x bypass in 2002 at Stony Brook Hospital in NY. Yes, it's a difficult surgery but a full recovery can be made providing the surgery goes well and you are an excellent patient. Let me say that i had an artery removed from my forearm and one from my calve, this was used to replace the clogged arteries, the other 2 came from my chest. I will tell you that if you have a good and caring Doctor as i do they will tell you your cholesterol level needs to be as low as possible so excess red meat, cheese, etc. needs to be eliminated, i am basically a vegan drinking silk milk and eating soy burgers which are HIGH in protein FYI. Yes they do wire your chest back together and will take x rays after the operation, expect to be on many meds. such as plavix, cholesterol lowering meds like lipitor and possibly blood pressure too. Whole eggs should be history most of the time and also sodium is a concern as is caffeine. Regarding working out cardio or aerobic is better for the heart than anaerobic so the treadmill, running, cycling is far better than heavy resistance training and if you use drugs forget it. I do long distance cycling = well over 50 miles which is great for the legs, treadmill work and yes weights too, my arms are 17 inches with some fat on me. I am now nearly 55, I just took my treadmill test at the Hospital and in better shape than 2 years ago, it's known as the bruce protocol test and you will be taking that once a year, i am in the highest level so i go every 2 years, changing your diet and eliminating all that red meat should be a priority for you, take whey and other sources of protein. My total cholesterol is about 130 and my bad cholesterol is 70. I needed an operation when i was only 46 due to high egg consumption and red meat when i was in my 20's, takes years to buildup but when it does it's not a good feeling. Remember to do your cardio 1st. and be serious for at least 20 minutes but more is better, you can check out the bruce protocol info. online, it gives all the specs regarding treadmill incline and speed during the test, i train at the gym using those specs so i am ready when i take it, buy i bike and use it and ride it hard after the Doctor says you can.

It takes time so don't push it but don't be a couch potato either, let your body tell you when you are tired and need a rest.

good luck
Fred

*STEVE*
11-27-2010, 12:50 AM
I had a 4x bypass in 2002 at Stony Brook Hospital in NY. Yes, it's a difficult surgery but a full recovery can be made providing the surgery goes well and you are an excellent patient. Let me say that i had an artery removed from my forearm and one from my calve, this was used to replace the clogged arteries, the other 2 came from my chest. I will tell you that if you have a good and caring Doctor as i do they will tell you your cholesterol level needs to be as low as possible so excess red meat, cheese, etc. needs to be eliminated, i am basically a vegan drinking silk milk and eating soy burgers which are HIGH in protein FYI. Yes they do wire your chest back together and will take x rays after the operation, expect to be on many meds. such as plavix, cholesterol lowering meds like lipitor and possibly blood pressure too. Whole eggs should be history most of the time and also sodium is a concern as is caffeine. Regarding working out cardio or aerobic is better for the heart than anaerobic so the treadmill, running, cycling is far better than heavy resistance training and if you use drugs forget it. I do long distance cycling = well over 50 miles which is great for the legs, treadmill work and yes weights too, my arms are 17 inches with some fat on me. I am now nearly 55, I just took my treadmill test at the Hospital and in better shape than 2 years ago, it's known as the bruce protocol test and you will be taking that once a year, i am in the highest level so i go every 2 years, changing your diet and eliminating all that red meat should be a priority for you, take whey and other sources of protein. My total cholesterol is about 130 and my bad cholesterol is 70. I needed an operation when i was only 46 due to high egg consumption and red meat when i was in my 20's, takes years to buildup but when it does it's not a good feeling. Remember to do your cardio 1st. and be serious for at least 20 minutes but more is better, you can check out the bruce protocol info. online, it gives all the specs regarding treadmill incline and speed during the test, i train at the gym using those specs so i am ready when i take it, buy i bike and use it and ride it hard after the Doctor says you can.

It takes time so don't push it but don't be a couch potato either, let your body tell you when you are tired and need a rest.

good luck
Fred

Strong first post.


Strong 5 year thread bump.


As a bonus , OP's banned and hasnt posted since 05.

Stuart Rudolph
11-27-2010, 04:39 AM
Yes, that was me. It was a virus that I received from a cat scratch. It gave me high fevers and attatched itself to my aortic valve, basically dissolving the leaflets that form the valve. Pretty wicked stuff.

I had servere heart palpitations, arrythmia, and a murmur. I was in a state of congestive heart failure. I was told I had only days left. Prognosis open heart surgery.

I was in the hospital for 2 weeks. I went from 202 lbs. to about 168 lbs. At 5'll I was a rail. I was out of work for 6 weeks. I've been lifting on and off since I was 16. My surgery was in May of 2003, and I slowly got back into lifting by August. (Very Slowly) It was like I was 16 again, skinny and weak. Now I've gained all the muscle back and them some. I'm now 222 lbs. with 7% BF.

I have a titanium valve, and I'll be on blood thinners for the rest of my life. Now I have to stay away from caffeine and such. I was told that once ny sternum heals, my chest will actually be stronger from the new bone growth, and the metal wire that held my ribcage together during the healing process. It's still there.

But I'm leary about doing bench presses. Because when I do my behind the head tricep routine, the first few reps the middle of my chest crackles, like when when you pop your knuckles. There's no pain. So I work my chest by doing a ton of push-ups.

So yes, there is a weightlifting life after open heart surgery. Just take it slow. (Very Slow)

God Bless

Well here I am almost 6 years after my last post. Still lifting and staying in shape. My titanium valve is still clicking like a Timex. I'm still very thankful every morning I wake up to a new day!

Corbi
11-27-2010, 08:12 AM
Well here I am almost 6 years after my last post. Still lifting and staying in shape. My titanium valve is still clicking like a Timex. I'm still very thankful every morning I wake up to a new day!

Good to read/hear.

Had mitral valve surgery in march of 09. Waited a little over a year to start lifting weights & no issues at all.

john-t-b
11-27-2010, 06:14 PM
Hi guys:
I am soon to undergo heart bypass surgery and I was wondering if you older guys,(like myself) have ran into any bodybuilders that have gotten back into good shape after the surgery.

I know that Danny Padilla and Boyer Coe have had the surgery but I can't find anything telling me if they were able to continue lifting after the surgery.

If any of you have read anything or just have some advice please point me towards it..

thanks

Personally i had a triple bypass in July of '09. I was back in the gym (doing mainly cardio) by mid September 09'. The biggest problem i had was that I had been told no more powerlifting. Well everyone except my surgeon said that. He just said you know what your body can handle just take it easy for at least 6 months. I did very lite lifting and NO BENCHING (I was too nervous) for a couple months then stopped because i could not handle doing something i did not want to do.

Then March of 2010 i decided i'm doing what i want with my life. By july of 2010 i was benching 315, squatting 405, deadlifting 455.

As long as you take your time (if you can slow yourself down in the beginning you should be fine. The biggest problem i had was getting all my medication straightened out.

You will be extremely tired in the beginning. I would come home from work at 5 eat at 5:30 and fall asleep at 6:30 sometimes. I did this a couple times a week when i first went back to work. I do have a somewhat physical job though (HVAC service tech).

Anything more specific just let me know.

Dogsoldier
11-27-2010, 07:22 PM
Big way to go Stu. Congratulations on the recovery. Actually, congrads to all that had their chests cracked and came back swinging!

There are two guys that work out at the same time I do. One has a pig valve in his heart. He says it was from taking steroids hen he was younger. But then he blames everything that has happened to him medically on steroids. The other guy checked out last year while on the treadmill. I wasn't there, the word was the EMT's pulled him back. Later he admitted to having symptoms and just ignored them. So, if you have pains in your neck, chest arms or what ever, go get checked out. This guy was lucky.

Te point is, these guys are back and doing fine. Just more examples of there is weight lifting life after heart surgery.

joecole1960
03-06-2012, 10:11 PM
Good to read/hear.

Had mitral valve surgery in march of 09. Waited a little over a year to start lifting weights & no issues at all.

I HAD A PIG VALVE OPERATION DEC24,2008 i WEIGH 260LB 6FT TALL. i LEFT BAR BELLS AND WALK 3 MILES A Day i WANT TO START LIFTING. i AM 51 i AM AFRAID TO START BENCHING. i ALSO HAD BRAIN SURGERY FOR A BRAIN aneurism. I have a coil. I work hard and I pick up over 100 lbs no problem. My middle is getting big and lazy weight gain. I will need another pig valve 10 to 15 years means open heart again. I can't have blood thinners so no metal valves. So if I get big muscle in chest will that make open heart a trouble next time I go under knife. can i damage my metal sternum

marckane
09-25-2013, 05:03 AM
Hello, I've been a member of the forum for quite some time but always sat on the side lines.

I'm currently in hospital awaiting open heart surgery to replace the pulmonaric valve.
It will be my 3rd open heart op at 23 years old. The 1st two were done by the time I was 2 years old so I don't remember a thing.
I had doubts and worry about my sternum being closed and held together.
That was my only fear .... The breast bone and I wondered if I'd ever get back under the bar.
After reason posts from you guys I'm now feeling confident!
So I thank you for your posts and sharing the experience you have had.

Marc.

mavrick77
09-25-2013, 05:25 AM
Hi guys:
I am soon to undergo heart bypass surgery and I was wondering if you older guys,(like myself) have ran into any bodybuilders that have gotten back into good shape after the surgery.

I know that Danny Padilla and Boyer Coe have had the surgery but I can't find anything telling me if they were able to continue lifting after the surgery.

If any of you have read anything or just have some advice please point me towards it..

thanks

Josh...

I am 36 years old next month. This past January I had a aortic dissection and had to have emergency valve replacement. I was cracked open and stuck on a ventilator for 7 days. The months following were the most depressing of my life, I didn't want to fight anymore, I just wanted to give up and die. It does get better, but for me, 9 months later...its still a struggle.

As for lifting, yea it hurts...but gets better. The week before my emergency operation I was able to put up 405 for 6 reps, raw.... After surgery, ventilator (major atrophy), nipples under my armpits, and 3 months of recovery..I was given the ok to lift light. I guess I didn't have a choice, my first day back into the gym my bench press was struggling for 6 with the bar and no weight. Talk about a ego check there. Now I have to be very careful with my valve about spiking blood pressure, but I can tell you 5-6 months later, I have worked back up to about 275 for 6. At that weight I get a little scared because I am sure I am not fused 100% yet and I get some tension pain in my mid chest where they cracked me, and I feel myself starting to push a bit to hard and worry about the BP.

is this a easy recovery? NO, not at all. There will be times you want to die..trust me. Stay with it, keep trying the best you can...and if anyone gives you crap, hit them in the head with a 5lb plate. Best wishes brother....if you ever need to talk after surgery, please do not hesitate to email me...I know what your going to be going thru.

BTW enjoy the pump head....anytime they put you on bypass for any period of time you tend to get stupid for a couple months. you will forget the most simple things, but no worries that comes back over time too. The doctors are not really sure why, but its a common thing they know of. All they or I can guess, its the difference of blood supply/rate while on the pump, that your brain is supplied with blood.

joecole1960
09-25-2013, 05:55 AM
You or will be part of the zipper club, the scare on the chest. I had problems with my left side. My doctors never answer if I could left again. MY MEDS have made my heart rate to low to work out confront-able. So I mostly walk. I put the weights a side. I promise I will get back to it but my last stress test had the team of doctors concern I very active at work I am a contractor. I can pick up heavier loads because I am big.You will be out awhile just enjoy life. God has been good to me and You should affirm your God also. A clear mind is always best when going under the knife. be well and GOd bless

duck1dong
09-25-2013, 08:39 AM
Hi guys:
I am soon to undergo heart bypass surgery and I was wondering if you older guys,(like myself) have ran into any bodybuilders that have gotten back into good shape after the surgery.

I know that Danny Padilla and Boyer Coe have had the surgery but I can't find anything telling me if they were able to continue lifting after the surgery.

If any of you have read anything or just have some advice please point me towards it..

thanks

As a tech in a cath lab, I often see many patients that require bypass. There are several multiple issues post operation. Did the surgeon use just sternal wires and/or Kryptonite(bone cement)? If just sternal wires it will require a long time for the sternum to heal, on the plus side easier to do a "redo" bypass if needed. The newtons of force to injure the sternum are much less with just the wires. Additionally, hopefully the graft anastamoses were done correctly and were not sewn into where there may be stenoses already on the native coronary arteries. It is best to consult with the surgeon regarding both the skeletal healing and what is prescribed in terms of heart function so that the heart itself can handle the increase in heart rate during lifting.

duck1dong
09-25-2013, 08:42 AM
Hello, I've been a member of the forum for quite some time but always sat on the side lines.

I'm currently in hospital awaiting open heart surgery to replace the pulmonaric valve.
It will be my 3rd open heart op at 23 years old. The 1st two were done by the time I was 2 years old so I don't remember a thing.
I had doubts and worry about my sternum being closed and held together.
That was my only fear .... The breast bone and I wondered if I'd ever get back under the bar.
After reason posts from you guys I'm now feeling confident!
So I thank you for your posts and sharing the experience you have had.

Marc.

Marc, did you ask the surgeon about Kryptonite(bone cement)? Disadvantages: Harder to reopen chest if there is an error during surgery or post operation. Advantages, heals up quicker, stronger sternum than just sternal wires.

mavrick77
09-25-2013, 09:22 AM
Hi guys:
I am soon to undergo heart bypass surgery and I was wondering if you older guys,(like myself) have ran into any bodybuilders that have gotten back into good shape after the surgery.

I know that Danny Padilla and Boyer Coe have had the surgery but I can't find anything telling me if they were able to continue lifting after the surgery.

If any of you have read anything or just have some advice please point me towards it..

thanks


Marc, did you ask the surgeon about Kryptonite(bone cement)? Disadvantages: Harder to reopen chest if there is an error during surgery or post operation. Advantages, heals up quicker, stronger sternum than just sternal wires.

I know for a fact they used sternal wires on me, they show up on every xray I do. I always love getting the xrays when the xray tech knows nothing about me....all I hear is "HOLY S$!T".... they see the mechanical valve, the sternal wires, a 6 inch threaded rod up the center of my spine, 3 pedicle screws and 3 facet screws. The next question is always, "how old are you?"

Corbi
09-25-2013, 11:21 AM
Anyone who has had the surgery have you noticed a difference in your scar as you get stronger and more defined? My scar is getting a deeper red in color in areas and actually appears to be stretching as my chest has gotten bigger. So far my Dr doesn't want to do anything about it but i'm starting to feel a bit self concious about it the worse it gets. Last week I was in the pool at the gym and noticed some dude starring at it, I just looked at him and asked "what?" he turned around and left real quick.

mavrick77
09-25-2013, 01:40 PM
Anyone who has had the surgery have you noticed a difference in your scar as you get stronger and more defined? My scar is getting a deeper red in color in areas and actually appears to be stretching as my chest has gotten bigger. So far my Dr doesn't want to do anything about it but i'm starting to feel a bit self concious about it the worse it gets. Last week I was in the pool at the gym and noticed some dude starring at it, I just looked at him and asked "what?" he turned around and left real quick.

Corbi...its odd you mention this. I did notice that where they put the drainage tubes, the two holes are stretching out some. But the odd thing is I am getting like 4 stretch marks I never had. maybe its muscle memory and due to all the muscle I lost when I was in the hospital?? like 2 on my upper chest and 2 at the base of my traps. As for the zipper, mine does look deeper, but I kinda like it..makes my pecs look bigger..LOL

marckane
09-27-2013, 03:27 AM
Yesterday I went in for surgery,
I spoke with the doctor on Wednesday night and they had decided not to go for open heart surgery. Instead they done a catheter in my groin into my femral artery and sent a balloon up to my heart where they stretched the valve.
This has reduced my need for surgery for now, but it will have to happen some day. Good news for me is I'm eligible for a percuteneous valve, where they fit a valve in a stent, and go through your groin again. Minimal invasion.

As for the scar on my chest, mine has stretched as I have grown, it's gotten wider and is a pink colour. At the top I have a keiloid scar that is really noticeable. Iv had people stare all my life. It was worse as a kid, but now I just accept it. It's what makes me different!

Corbi
09-27-2013, 01:42 PM
As for the scar on my chest, mine has stretched as I have grown, it's gotten wider and is a pink colour. At the top I have a keiloid scar that is really noticeable. Iv had people stare all my life. It was worse as a kid, but now I just accept it. It's what makes me different!

I have accepted mine as I really have no choice but still you tend to get a bit self concious when some asshat has to sit there and stare as if you had a 3rd eye in the middle of your goddamn forehead.

BBohata
09-27-2013, 04:37 PM
A couple of decades ago, I had to have a couple of birth defects in my heart corrected: A leaky mitral valve and a weak base on my aorta, which was becoming an aneurysm. I was able to lift lightly one month after surgery, and am as strong as I have been. I have been blessed to have a cardiologist who approves of my lifting weights.

A speedy recovery to josh jr!

BBohata
09-27-2013, 05:47 PM
Oops! I didn't see when this thread was started. I presume OP is already recovered and going strong. I hope all goes well for the other posters!

dansouthard31
04-28-2014, 03:44 PM
I knew better than to gain weight. I have a MS in Physical Education, I was heavily training in Shotokan Karate and have trained at length with Koyama, I was a 19 Delta Platoon Sergeant, and I was a college and H S coach. On November 13 I had a Heart Attack (while in the ER getting an EKG, luck) I had a Ventricular Fib and my nurses dragged me to the gurney, stripped me, shaved everything necessary. The Cardiologist got on the intercom and said Coach S will not survive a plane trip to Tucson, I need volunteers to set the cath lab now. He went to the Cath lab and my nurses and a fireman with the defib pushed me to it. I suddenly stopped living, I was in the next world for 20 seconds then a huge explosion hit the inside of my head as I was defibed. It worked enough that the Doc figured I had at least 15 minutes to live. He did the fastest Catheter and Angioplasty on the widow maker artery. Success so he took his time to find exactly what the damage was. I needed a quad bypass.

What shape was I in? I had realized how dumb I was to get with my H S buddies who were alive and search for the best Hamburger in Arizona. So over the past year I had dropped 50 lbs (284 to 230) So this attack was a complete shock.

My son is a trainer for a MLB Team and he's probably on this site He spent the next month with me and I was getting back in shape. Suddenly my Gall Bladder blew up and I had gangrene. I was taken back to a hospital and a group of at least 5 Doctors kept me alive by keeping me on opium and giving me many tests during the first week, they had to wait for the Plavix to leave my body and they had to see exactly 20 gallstones were. (I don't do anything half way) The second week I had 4 DaVinci treatments in 6 days. All successful.
But by this time my body had collapsed, the veins in both arms were done, I could take no more pain, so the out a PICC in and it changed my world. I had two weeks of rehab (I had to be taught how to walk again) So I went from wheelchair to walker to being able to walk for 6 minutes
After that I did six weeks of Cardio Rehab at an Army clinic. Lots of treadmill, lots of stationary bike and lots of reps with light weights. I passed when I could walk a mile in 19 minutes.
Now I'm doing the next step water aerobics with a good PT in an Army pool. She said I'm ready for the next step but we are both worried about my sternum.
I didn't mean to be so windy but this was a hell of an experience.
I want to lift but I don't want to die in front of young people. :-) So, where should I start?
Whew.

GPinNC
05-05-2014, 09:08 PM
I ran across this post while doing a search on recovery times. After reading these I thought I would toss out my story.

I have a history of peripheral artery disease and had angioplasy and a stent in the left femoral artery in 2/12. I soon got a membership at the gym to build walking and distance to at least a mile where as before the best I could do was about .2 miles. While I did that and it improved I got the fever to work on muscle building. I still had issues getting much past a mile walking due to the calves fatiguing and unable to break that barrier.

Two years later, development has been very noticeable and quite remarkable..at least I think so lol. I've many medical issues, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes. Two months ago I noticed the signs that other issues were cardiac. Given that I recovered from the chest discomfort within 30 seconds after ceasing labor, I pretty much figured the blockage was about 75-80 percent and fixable with angioplasty and stents. Once on the table I was told later that I advised them during the cath that I was having chest pain. When it was all said and done, 4 main coronary arteries were between 95-99 percent blocked and a quad cabg was needed.

I am firmly convinced that my gym time for those two years helped me compensate a lot and rendered me at a point I was symptom free but it also probably saved me and sped up my recovery. Things I read here imply it will be about 6 months before I am healed from being "cracked" but that I can do 10 pounds in my routines. Honestly, I think a large part of it is trial and error. If able to do say 10 pounds for 10 reps no issue..go to 12.5 then 15 pounds. I would say its utilization of common sense.

Right now I am half way through my 5th week.

R

dansouthard31
05-12-2014, 09:14 PM
GP You have an interesting story. Both of us had quads.
There is a site Inspire.com that deals with strictly medical issues. That said I'm at 5 months and still cannot lift more than 25 lbs, but my Docs want me to get started lifting. So I've decided to continue lifting reps but will increase weight up to 25 lbs slowly. I pushed a scraped in the pool today and sit when I feel tired. In a few minutes I'm going to hit the stationary bike for 15 minutes and the elliptical for 10 minutes. then will do 10 lifts, 3 sets of 12. Wednesday I plan to go up 2 lbs. Going slow is hard but since you're younger than me I think you will get back to normal in a year or so. I'm a basically in shape 72.

joegomez5150
05-14-2014, 03:37 PM
good luck with it! you will know when u are ready

IronNWire
05-26-2015, 02:39 PM
This is an awesome thread - one of the only ones like it.

I'm posting because I'm older (57), I've had CABG (two years ago), and I've recovered. I had an NSTEMI leading to CABG in June 2013. Ten weeks later I was told I could now lift more than 10 pounds but that my sternum wouldn't be fully healed another four months. I looked for advice on what to do during weeks 11-26 post-CABG.

I found the advice I needed from Baylor Heart and Vascular Hospital.
Their advice:
(1) minimize the risk of sternal dehiscence by keeping arms close to body. in other words, don't make a long lever out of my arms. Flyes would be bad. Overhead press is ok. Back squat would be bad. Safety Bar squat is ok.
(2) keep the load on my heart at a safe level. Rate Pressure Product (RPP) is systolic blood pressure x heart rate. I was told to keep RPP under 36000.

I found the right equipment and a load of encouragement at my gym.
Exercise Selection:
(1) Safety bar squat (3 sets of 5 reps)
(2) Barbell overhead press (3 sets of 5 reps)
(3) Glute Ham raise (3 sets of whatever felt right)
I measured my RPP using a heart monitor watch on one wrist and a blood pressure monitor on the other. My RPP never got above 32000.

During weeks 11-26 I slowly increased the weight on the bar. By week 26 (end of December 2013) my overhead press and squat were back to pre-CABG levels. For the next two months I was a bit tentative with bench pressing and deadlifting but soon found that I could do both as good as before.

In April 2014 I competed in a powerlifting meet ten months post-CABG. I didn't die.

Hopefully some will find this useful. Take care.

VoodooAlt
05-26-2015, 04:49 PM
This is an awesome thread - one of the only ones like it.

I'm posting because I'm older (57), I've had CABG (two years ago), and I've recovered. I had an NSTEMI leading to CABG in June 2013. Ten weeks later I was told I could now lift more than 10 pounds but that my sternum wouldn't be fully healed another four months. I looked for advice on what to do during weeks 11-26 post-CABG.

I found the advice I needed from Baylor Heart and Vascular Hospital.
Their advice:
(1) minimize the risk of sternal dehiscence by keeping arms close to body. in other words, don't make a long lever out of my arms. Flyes would be bad. Overhead press is ok. Back squat would be bad. Safety Bar squat is ok.
(2) keep the load on my heart at a safe level. Rate Pressure Product (RPP) is systolic blood pressure x heart rate. I was told to keep RPP under 36000.

I found the right equipment and a load of encouragement at my gym.
Exercise Selection:
(1) Safety bar squat (3 sets of 5 reps)
(2) Barbell overhead press (3 sets of 5 reps)
(3) Glute Ham raise (3 sets of whatever felt right)
I measured my RPP using a heart monitor watch on one wrist and a blood pressure monitor on the other. My RPP never got above 32000.

During weeks 11-26 I slowly increased the weight on the bar. By week 26 (end of December 2013) my overhead press and squat were back to pre-CABG levels. For the next two months I was a bit tentative with bench pressing and deadlifting but soon found that I could do both as good as before.

In April 2014 I competed in a powerlifting meet ten months post-CABG. I didn't die.

Hopefully some will find this useful. Take care.

Good for you, advances in med technology is truly impressive! When I think back to my dad's artificial aortic valve operation in '76 its really staggering the changes. His was a long recovery with and uncertain outcome, they frankly were not sure how long he would live. It was brand new technology then (I think they first ever was done in the 60s) but now the success and recovery rate is amazing. Well amazing with some dedication to rehab that is.


Best of success to you!

benjigor
07-11-2015, 03:08 AM
Well here I am almost 6 years after my last post. Still lifting and staying in shape. My titanium valve is still clicking like a Timex. I'm still very thankful every morning I wake up to a new day!

Hi Stuart, interesting to read your post. I too, love weight training and fitness. In xmas 2014 was hospitalised with infective endocarditis. After 4 months of unsuccessful antibiotics, finally accepted a second heart procedure to replace the valve. Looking forward to getting back into weight training.
P.S The weight loss/muscle loss factor sucks.

bondizi
10-04-2015, 04:36 AM
Didn't have bypass surgery, but did get my chest cracked open for aortic rupture and dissection in January 2015. Had no idea about the condition, and it happened on a flight of all places. Luckily, I survived that and was taken for emergency open heart surgery when we landed. Found out I had an ascending aortic aneurysm of 6.5cm which had burst, and also dissected the aorta all the way down to the femoral bifurcation. Nasty stuff. They managed to patch me up with grafts and stents (those X-rays look horrific!), and I was able to recover gradually. At first, I couldn't even walk for than a minute, after coming home (was in ICU for 3 weeks). I would be winded in under 30 feet, and felt like crap. But both my cardiologist and vascular surgeon recommended getting back to fitness as soon as possible, with what I could tolerate. First it was walking, walking walking.... boring as hell, but an effort nonetheless. After about a month I was able to do do a mile without resting. Built it up to walking 5-6 miles daily after around 6-8 weeks. At this point my chest seemed to heal itself structurally. By that I mean suddenly one day there was no pinging or tweaky feeling in the chest when twisting or turning my body. It just felt like the sternum had come together like it needed to. After this I started upper body stretches and light weights (5-10lbs), at about month 2. Just very slow and easy reps to condition the chest, shoulders and back, because in my case, they had cut a few nerves in the chest/back area to open up the ribcage, and the whole area was numb for the longest time (about 4-5 months). They had also cut into the left femoral artery for the stunting, and cut a few nerves there as well. My left thigh is still slightly numb, 10 months after the surgery, but not enough to be a hinderance. Still haven't started real weights, think I might wait a couple months more before I do that. I have started playing squash again, which is great HIIT activity. I lost 35 lbs and have maintained that, but I was a rather large 295lbs (6'3") before and am planning to get down to 220.

I think the main concern after open heart surgery when lifting weights, is the strain and rep-to-failure issue. My care team has advised that, when I'm ready to lift real weight, not to lift an amount that causes strain (i.e. that which you can barely lift), and not to rep-to-failure (both these activities cause a spike in blood pressure, which is to be avoided). This is advice for when initially getting back to real weights. In my case, I had very high blood pressure which they think caused the aneurysm, in combination with a congenitally thin aortic wall. So even though my BP is well controlled now, I have to adopt these measures initially when I begin lifting heavy weights.

bondizi
10-04-2015, 04:58 AM
I know for a fact they used sternal wires on me, they show up on every xray I do. I always love getting the xrays when the xray tech knows nothing about me....all I hear is "HOLY S$!T".... they see the mechanical valve, the sternal wires, a 6 inch threaded rod up the center of my spine, 3 pedicle screws and 3 facet screws. The next question is always, "how old are you?"

Haha, exactly. My aortic rupture/dissection was at 42, and 3D imaging and CT angiograms afterwards look pretty horrendous with the grafting and stenting showing up.

glennlifts
10-15-2017, 07:05 PM
Reading all of your posts has helped me feel very lucky and blessed and not alone in my heart disease. I hope all of you get better as I feel like I have a oxygen tank in my chest blowing a ton of oxygen ever time I breath now.
My best raw bench was 390 when I was in my 20s and I worked up to 353 when I was almost 50. I am now 50 and was doing reps with 300 and 316 on Monday and had 4 bypass open heart surgery on that Friday after going to a physical on Tuesday and failing most of the heart tests. I had 4 blocked up arteries as my heart grew two small arteries to keep from dying.
I am 11 weeks out from my surgery and feel great. I have been doing bicep curls since after week 4 when my surgeon told me I could lift up to 25 pounds so I just did the curl bar.
I have not lost any strength in my arms as I did 110 reps of the 25 pound bar bell easily. At nine weeks I was doing leg extensions with the stack 200 pounds for 15 reps easily.
I walk on the treadmill and do the elliptical for 30 plus minutes two or three times a week. I feel weak some days and I just rest.
Before I went in for surgery I trusted God and said to myself if this is my time to die then it is . But I did ask God if I could just be able to walk around and take care of my two kids and wife then that would be all I wanted but he gave me everything back and it is hard to believe.
But I will not bench press till I know if I can start at six months or I can wait till a year if that is what is normal ? Does anyone know ? Thanks

sowilson
10-16-2017, 02:04 PM
This is a discussion for you to have with your Cardiologist and possibly the PT's in Cardiac Rehab.

JosephDubya
10-16-2017, 06:13 PM
so how'd this end up going for you?

LoadFree
11-18-2017, 09:17 PM
I just signed up for this BB site but I have been following for about 2 years, after I was told I had db type 2 in late 2013. I Lost 70 lbs over the next year by cardio and a dumbbell workout routine and kicked the meds in April 2015. I had aortic valve replacement last July, and since I was in pretty good shape (64yr old), I recovered well. My cardiologist told me not to start the scull crushers until 4 months, to let my sternum get stronger. I'm just now getting back into the dumbbells (all at home). Looking forward to when I can start my pullups again, but I don't quite trust my sternum yet. Pre-surgery I was 190 lbs with 15% bf.

The Lord, and my kids, have been with me through this. Each day is a blessing, and this thread encouraging.