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DJINN
11-29-2004, 08:50 AM
This thread will subsume my previous thread as my journal. My previous thread was titled, "1-Test and 4-AD Cycle". I have attached several pics, all before pics for your viewing. The cylce I am doing is as follows:

WEEK 0: ------------- / 4-ad 600mg
WEEK 1: 1-test 300mg / 4-ad 600mg
WEEK 2: 1-test 300mg / 4-ad 600mg
WEEK 3: 1-test 375mg / 4-ad 600mg
WEEK 4: 1-test 375mg / 4-ad 900mg
WEEK 5: 1-test 450mg / 4-ad 900mg
WEEK 6: 1-test 450mg / 4-ad 900mg

PCT - 4 weeks:
1: 6-oxo 600mg
2: 6-oxo 400mg
3: 6-oxo 400mg
4: 6-oxo 300mg

The 4-ad starts a week ahead of the 1-test for acclimatization and effect onset delay. I started milk thistle early and will continue through week 0 then d/c until PCT. The only other supplements to be used are creatine, glutamine, multi-vitamin, vitamin c, and xenadrine nrg...of course whey protein and a weight gainer.



My workout routine is as follows:

Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

Hammer Strength Incline Press - 4 sets to failure (6-10 reps)
Flex Shoulder Press - 3 sets to failure
Lateral Raises - 2 sets to failure
Lying Tricep Extensions w/ EZ bar - 2 sets to failure
Upright Machine Tricep Extensions - 2 sets to failure

Day 2: Hamstrings and Calves

Seated Hamstring Curls - 3 sets to failure
Lying Hamstring Curls - 3 sets to failure
Standing Ham Curls - 2 sets to failure

Donkey Presses - 4 sets to failure

Day 3: Off

Day 4: Back and Biceps

Bent Barbell Rows / Yates Rows - 3 sets to failure
Hammer Strength Pronated Grip Pull Downs - 3 sets to failure
Pull-ups - 2 sets to failure
DB Shrugs - 2 sets to failure

Hammer Curls - 4 sets to failure

Day 5: Quads and Calves

Leg Extensions - 2 sets warm-up
Leg Press - 4 sets to failure
Barbell Lunges - 2 sets to failure
Leg Extensions - 2 sets to failure

Seated Calf Raises - 4 sets to failure

Day 6 & 7: Off...then repeat

*Each workout is preceded by 10 minutes on the recumbent bike for general warm-up and 10 minutes on the bike for cool-down. I do no aerobic activity beyond this.

*My workout is machine heavy due, in part, to having elbow surgery earlier this year and currently suffering from a moderately severe wrist sprain.

*The first major exercise in each routine is preceded by 2-3 warm-up sets. The sets listed above all all heavy working sets to positive failure.


My diet is as follows:

Here is the diet and supplement regimen I will follow throughout my cycle. One caveat here is that my diet is laden with liquid meals. This is purposeful in that it is functional given my daily schedule. If a diet is not feasible given your individual daily routine, one will not adhere to it and thus it will not be effective.

Wake at 4:00am

4:15am - ON's 100% whey (double serving) in water, vitmain C - 1000mg, multivitamin, creatine 5mg, and glutamine 5mg. On workout days, I will take 2-3 Xenadrine NRG.

4:30am - off to the gym
4:45-5:45am - workout

6:00am - ON's Procomplex Protein (double serving) in 8oz water/8oz gatorade.

7:00am - ON's Serious Mass (1/2) serving, creatine 5mg, vitamin C 1000mg

10:00am - 1 cup cottage cheese, double serving of ON's 100% whey, bagel

1:00pm - Lunch (whatever I want...within reason)

4:00pm - Double serving of ON's whey and fruit.

7:00pm - Dinner (whatever I want...within reason)

10:00pm - Double serving of Procomplex Protein, vitamin C, multivitamin, and glutmaine 5 mg.

10:30pm - Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


During the cycle I will increase my Serious Mass to a 3/4 serving and then to a full serving over successive weeks. My total caloric intake will hover around 3500-4000. My protein intake will hover around 311g plus that taken in at lunch and dinner (approximately 30-50g each meal = 371-411g); carbs will hover at 284g plus lunch and dinner (approx. 100g each meal = 484g). Fat intake will hover at 13.5g plus lunch and dinner (approx. 20g each = 53.5g).

On day per week I have a cheat day...yes, an entire day of cheating. My supplements are still take at the same times (vitamins, creatine, glutamine) but everything else is up for grabs. Cheat days are scheduled on non-workout days.

I have adhered to variations of this diet and lower caloric intake for years and it has yet to fail me. I continue to make gains and stay lean.

DJINN
11-29-2004, 08:51 AM
Here are my completed workouts thusfar:

11-24-04
Today was my first workout with 1-test and 4-ad on-board. Started the 1-test yesterday and the 4-ad last week. Today was my chest/shoulder/triceps workout. I jacked my Xenadrine NRG up from 2 to 3 tabs. All else remained the same. I felt jacked but this is probably due to the NRG and placebo. Following the workout I maintained a crazy pump for several hours and noticed increased vascularity. I am not one to jump to conclusions early as I know there are several variables that may account for these observations...not just 1-test and 4-ad. Anyway, the workout looked like this (weights are all measured in lbs):

Hammer Strength Incline Press (Warm-ups - 1x20 at handles, 1x12 at 90, 1x8 at 180) Working Sets: 1x10@230, 3x10@270...kept it light today due to slight wrist discomfort.

Flex Shoulder Press: 1x10@130, 1x7@130, 1x7@130

DB Laterals: 1x12@20, 1x12@20

Lying EZ-Curl Bar Tricep Ext: 1x10@100, 1x10@105

Seated Machine Tri-ext: 1x15@220, 1x12@235

*Workout preceded and terminated with 5 minutes on the recumbent bike.

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Hams/Calves 11-25-04
*15 minutes on bike warm up

Seated Ham Curls - 3 warm up sets then: 1x10@180, 1x10@185, 1x8@190, and 1x8@190

Lying Ham Curls - 1x10@90, 1x9@95, and 1x8@95

Toe Press Machine - 2 warm up sets then: 1x12@300, 1x10@310, 1x10@315, and 1x10@320

*10 minute bike cool down...good workout, good focus
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Back and Biceps 11-27-04
*10 minute bike warm up

Bent Rows - 3 warm up sets then: 1x12@215, 1x10@225, 1x10@250

Hammer Strength Overhand Grip Pull-downs: 1x10@90, 1x8@90, 1x8@90

Pull-ups: 1x13, 1x10

DB Shrugs: 1x12@80, 1x12@85

Hammer Curls: 1x10@50, 1x6@55, 1x6@55

*5 minute bike cool down...good workout, good focus

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Quads and Calves 11-27-04

*15 minute bike warm-up

Leg Extensions (warm up): 1x12@75, 1x10@90

Leg Press - 3 warm up sets then: 1x20@360, 1x15@450, 1x15@540, 1x15@600

Barbell Lunges - 1x7@135, 1x8@155

Seated Calf Raises - 4x10@135

*10 minute bike cooldown...good workout, good f

DJINN
11-29-2004, 08:55 AM
Here I am in a variety of poses...I am growing a beard during this cycle as a symbol of my "growth". Feedback?

DJINN
11-29-2004, 08:57 AM
Here are a few more...

DJINN
11-29-2004, 08:58 AM
Here are three lower body shots...

DJINN
11-29-2004, 10:16 AM
Any feedback or questions are welcomed...this journal is really for the benefit of my being accountable, but if this interests or helps others then I am glad to provide it.

BigApothec
11-29-2004, 11:25 AM
Any feedback or questions are welcomed...this journal is really for the benefit of my being accountable, but if this interests or helps others then I am glad to provide it.

I noticed you're only getting six hours of sleep per night. Why not more?

DJINN
11-30-2004, 07:22 AM
BigApothec: I average 6 hours of sleep for most nights. Off days from workouts result in an extra 2 hours of sleep. I thrive well on 6 hours and typically much more than that results in a sluggish feeling throughout the day. I also schedule brief naps on weekends. This sleeping pattern is one that I've adhered to for most of my adult life and works well for me.

BusinessMan
11-30-2004, 11:38 AM
Excellent thread with excellent info. Please keep posting.

Also, and sorry if I missed it, but what are the brands of the supps you are taking. And lastly, what are your reasonings for taking 1-test instead of M1T. Just curious. Thanks.

w i c k e d
11-30-2004, 12:08 PM
yes definitely a good thread. good luck with everything and keep us updated. very rep worthy post.

DJINN
11-30-2004, 01:22 PM
Businessman...I will post the brands I take along with the amounts for each. I hope that doing so will not create problems with the moderators.

*Creatine 5mg twice per day per diet schedule - Optimum Nutrition
*Glutamine 5mg twice per day - Optimum Nutrition
*100% Whey - Optimum Nutrition
*ProComplex Protein - Optimum Nutrition
*Serious Mass - Optimum Nutrition
*Vitamin C 1000mg three times per day - Optimum Nutrition
*Multivitamin twice per day - Optimum Nutrition
*Xenadrine NRG 2-3 tabs - Cytodyne Technologies
*1-Testabolan AQ - BSN
*4-AD - Ergopharm

*PCT will include 6-oxo from Ergopharm and Milk Thistle


I hope this helps...

DJINN
11-30-2004, 01:25 PM
Businessman: I opted to do a 1-Test/4-AD cycle because this represents my first PH cycle. I thought that I would start with a reasonable product stack for my first cycle, leaving myself another step in the hierarchy of PH's for my next cycle. I will do the next cycle in late winter/early spring of 2005, and it will be a M1T/4-AD cycle...of course I shall have to purchase the goods within the next month to avoid complications.

DJINN
12-01-2004, 10:15 AM
Yesterday marked the start of week 2 of my current cycle. Everything will stay consistent this week. 1-Test is at 300mg and 4-AD is at 600mg. Next week I go up with the 1-Test to 375mg and my calories go up 10%. I never make more than a 10% adjustment in calories...this modest amount allows for lean gains and better acclimation by my digestive system in terms of processing more food. In any case, at this point the only negative effect I have experienced in minor lethargy...I knew it was coming. I find myself yawning quite often but at this point it is not really a problem. Also, my appetite is up...this is good.

As of today I weigh in at 188lbs...this is up 3lbs from last week. I still look good and feel good. I would like to be pushing the upper end of the 190's by cycle's end if not a clean 200lbs. Clearly, I'll drop some of that. I will try to post pics at 2 week intervals throughout the cycle for comparison.

Here is today's workout summary: 12-1-04

Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

*5 minute bike warm-up

*Hammer Strength Incline Press: 3 warm-up sets then - 1x10@270, 1x10@290, 1x8@305, and 1x7@320.

*Flex Shoulder Press: 1x8@130, 1x7@130. 1x5@130

*DB Laterals: 1x10@25, 1x12@25

*Lying EZ-bar Triceps Extensions: 1x7@110, 1x6@110

*Seated Triceps Extensions: 1x12@235, 1x10@250

*5 minute bike cool down

Today my energy and focus were primed...I needed this workout because I had been struggling mentally with a previous right pec tendon injury and was really afraid to push it. Today gave me the confidence I need to get back to the poundage I used to push (i.e., Hammer Strength Inclines at 400lbs). I'll get back there shortly. FYI: On these days, it is always, and I mean ALWAYS Pantera or Superjoint Ritual in my diskman! Tomorrow is Hamstring and Calf day. I'll report back then. Thanks for your support.

thebrakes
12-01-2004, 03:40 PM
very impressive physique - moreso that you have never used hormonal substances....almost makes me question it - take that as a compliment

cycle looks real good. i cant imagine how you got that way with all that liquid nutrition. seems to me whole foods would be better.

**VERY IMPORTANT:

drop that 6OXO and get some real stuff for PCT. 6 weeks of 1-test and you will be shut down almost completely. if you want to recover your test in less than 2 months, get some nolva.

DJINN
12-02-2004, 02:37 PM
Thebrakes: Thanks for the compliments. I have always been relatively lean and my problem has always been putting on size. My entire family is very frail and thin...thus I have fought a genetic uphill battle and continue to do so. I will consider your advice regarding the PCT. I know that several individuals have had no difficulties post-cycle using 6-oxo, but I know that Nolva is a better move...just not as easy to get a hold of.

DJINN
12-03-2004, 08:57 AM
I have deviated slightly from my 2 on, 1 off - 2 on, 2 off schedule this week due to two consecutive late nights of work functions. This week will work out to look like 1 on, 1 off - 1 on, 1 off - 2 on, 2 off...I am more than okay with this change. Next week it is back to my normal structure. I am very happy with the way things are progressing thusfar. I feel that I have a very dense, I appear more vascular, and continue to be hard and lean. It is the 2nd week in I feel great. Okay, on to the workout.


*15 minutes bike warm-up

*Seated Hamstring Curls: 3 warm-up sets then - 1x12@190, 1x10@195, 1x8@200, 1x8@200

*Lying Ham Curls: 1x10@95, 1x8@100, 1x8@105

*Toe Press Machine: 2 warm-up sets then - 1x12@320, 1x10@320, 1x10@325, and 1x10@325

*10 minute bike cooldown...overall this was a solid workout!

I am doing nice slow controlled reps as we all should, particularly with hamstring work...take care not to develop minor strains that over time might precipitate ruptures. I will take tomorrow (12-4-04) off and then hit Back/Biceps on Sunday and Quads/Calves on Monday. I will enter week 3 on Tuesday and bump my 1-Test to 375mg in divided doses (5) and keep my 4-AD consistent at 600mg. The 1-Test will stay at 375mg for 2 weeks, but the 4-AD will increase to 900mg in week 4. My calories will increase next week by approximately 10%...I will add roughly 350 more to my daily intake. I will break down the specifics next week when I start. I will also post new pics next week, as mentioned prior, as I'd like to show progress in a pictorial format every 2 weeks during this cycle. Thanks for your continued support.

thebrakes
12-03-2004, 11:00 AM
I will also post new pics next week, as mentioned prior, as I'd like to show progress in a pictorial format every 2 weeks during this cycle. Thanks for your continued support.

that extent of photo logging is appreciated (always good to see if any visible gains are being made), and i will be absolutely stunned if anything really looks different after 2 weeks on a relatively slow (1-test) PH cycle. which actually brings to mind the point that the preloading of 4-ad you did was sorta pointless.

that's your entire leg workout? why no pressing/squatting?????

nolva is REALLY easy to get ahold of - and legal to purchase....except in pill form, which is the only way i take it.

DJINN
12-03-2004, 01:12 PM
Thebrakes: My leg workout is split into two separate days...the first is a ham and calf day and the second is a quad and calf day. Earlier in the thread I list my workout split along with exercises specific to each day. The 4-AD frontloading was perhaps a pointless venture...but this epiphany comes in retrospection. I like the idea of pictures, as they don't lie...if you are fat-pics will show it, if you are gaining lean mass-pics will show it, and if you are simply full of crap-pics will show it.

DJINN
12-06-2004, 10:14 AM
Here are the most recent weight room undertakings...

12-05-04: Back/Biceps

*10 minute bike warm-up

*Bent Rows - 3 warm-ups then: 3x10@250...these were okay; I would've gone heavier but I forgot my damn Shiek Wrist Straps...love those things!

*Hammer Strength Overhand-grip Pulldowns: 1x10@90, 2x7@100...here I alternate right side reps and left side reps. The machine allows for unilateral movement.

*Pull-ups: 1x15@50, 1x13@50

*DB Shrugs: 1x12@85, 1x11@90

*Hammer Curls: 1x10@55, 1x8@55, 1x6@55

*5 minute bike cooldown...a solid workout, even w/out my straps. I can't wait until next week!

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12-6-04: Quads/Calves

*15 minute bike warm-up

*Leg Extensions (Warm-up): 1x15@75, 1x10@90

*Leg Press - 3 warm-up sets then: 1x15@540, 1x15@600, 1x11@600, and 1x10@600.

*Barbell Lunges: 1x6@185, and 1x10@185

*Seated Calf Raises: 1x10@135, 1x10@145, 1x8@155, 1x8@160

*10 minute bike cooldown...solid!

The leg press poundage may not sound that impressive...I know, I've pressed much more, but all sleds are not created equal. What is light on one may be heavy on another given angle, glide, etc. That said, I am very happy with the weight I am using and the development I am achieving.

KCPreki11
12-06-2004, 10:18 AM
I'm sure you mean 5 grams of creatine.

What's up w/ your Day 1 workout?

DJINN
12-06-2004, 10:24 AM
Today, 12-06-04, marks the final day of week 2. Tomorrow I will increase my 1-Test to 375mg and keep my 4-AD at 600mg for 7 more days. My calories will go up by 10% and I will slightly restructure my diet. I will post details tomorrow about my dietary restructuring as well as week 2 pics. The poses will all be the same for comparison purposes. No major sides, just fatigue, slightly oilier skin, and increased hunger...which is acceptable!

DJINN
12-06-2004, 10:25 AM
KCP...thanks for the typo highlight. I do mean 5g creatine. And I'm not sure I follow your, "What's up with you Day 1 workout?" question...what specifically is your question about the workout?

w i c k e d
12-06-2004, 02:50 PM
Looks like everything is going great for you. Finish it up strong!

DJINN
12-08-2004, 08:36 AM
Week 3 began yesterday and this means an increase in 1-Test to 375mg in 5 divided doses: 7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm, and 7pm. 4-AD remains at 600mg this week in two doses at 7am and 7pm. My diet is relative the same with a 290 calorie increase this week. Next week I will add another 300 calories and switch my weight gainer from Serious Mass to N-Large...the change is ONLY occurring due to macronutrient preferences for the duration of my cycle. Serious Mass gives me 25g protein for a 1/2 serving at 625 calories while N-Large is providing 55g protein at 600 calories. I took today off from working out due to sleeping through both alarm clocks...I had a late night working. Posted below will be pics taken on Tuesday December 7, 2004. I will post my Week 2 weight tomorrow when I post my workout journal entry.

DJINN
12-08-2004, 08:37 AM
I have included shots similar to those taken at the start of the cycle along with a few new shots. Feedback? Comments? Questions? And of course, thank you to everyone who has been following this journal and has provided support along the way.

DJINN
12-08-2004, 08:38 AM
Here are some lower body shots...sorry that you have to endure the funky multi-colored briefs.

DJINN
12-08-2004, 09:51 AM
The next batch of assessment photos will be posted at the end of week 4 and then again at the end of week 6. I will finally post one more set at the end of PCT.

BusinessMan
12-08-2004, 10:03 AM
Awesome thread and awesome pics. You're a monster.

How do you feel the supps are doing for you overall so far?

Dante205
12-08-2004, 11:02 AM
i've come across another one....i dont get why people stack 2 products that both convert to test. all they do is fight over conversion enzymes in the liver so by the time they're used their conversion rate is almost 0.

sculli
12-08-2004, 11:16 AM
Dante, no offense but people do it because it works despite what you have read or been told.

DJINN
12-08-2004, 11:41 AM
Businessman: Thanks for the compliments. I feel great thusfar. I am not one to jump the gun and start making correlations between a new supplement protocol and everything positive that happens, but I do notice a few things that are not placebo related. I have every confidence in the plan I have in place because I have taken the time over the years to plan effectively and discern what works for me vs. others. My diet, workouts, and supps are providing great benefits in my mind and posting pics here and getting good feedback is a good way to validate that claim.

My extensive use of liquid meals has been criticized by many, but given my schedule, this works well for me. I have made good gains with my meals and do not feel bloated or full all day. I'd rather have a meal plan that is easy and feasible, given my schedule, than one that would be difficult to comply with and yield frustration. I have lunch and dinner as free meals everyday because this keeps the monotony to a minimum in terms of meals...I eat everything for these meals from healthy home-cooked meals to fast food. My once a week cheat day is designed to provide a day of gorging on all the crap I enjoy but can't eat everyday. Even on cheat days, my supp consumption stays consistent and protein is always a priority.

DJINN
12-08-2004, 11:51 AM
Dante and Sculli: Thank you both for your posts here and for viewing my log/journal. I appreciate the feedback, positive and negative, despite whether I agree with it. Dante, I guess I am, as you say, "another one" stacking two products with the aim of manipulating testosterone levels. I respect your views and wish you well in whatever supp, ph, etc. protocol you follow or don't follow. I selected this stack because my research indicates that it can work, and work well, if pre-planning is established effectively. I think I have put together I pretty solid cycle and will be pleased with the results at the end. My next cycle...to start in spring 2005 will be a M1T / 4-AD cycle. Again, I am planning that cycle now, several months out to make sure I am fully ready with no reservations and/or lingering questions. I have every confidence in my abilities to research and plan effectively...my results thusfar serve as a testiment of that...at least in my eyes.

Sculli...Thanks for your feedback and for viewing my log/journal.

sculli
12-08-2004, 11:55 AM
Keep it up, you're looking big man.

yankees3
12-08-2004, 12:45 PM
excellent work man. you obviously did your homework before starting the cycle and it shows. anyone planning on doing a 1st cycle should take a look at this thread and see all the planning that you put into your diet, dosing etc and see everything thats involved running a good cycle.keep up the good work.

JustBrowsin
12-08-2004, 01:16 PM
i've come across another one....i dont get why people stack 2 products that both convert to test. all they do is fight over conversion enzymes in the liver so by the time they're used their conversion rate is almost 0.
could you elaborate. Which 2 products are you talking about

DJINN
12-08-2004, 01:18 PM
Yanks...thanks man. I appreciate the kind words. It is this kind of feedback that provides the external boost in motivation we all need and/or want at times.

Dante205
12-08-2004, 01:20 PM
Dante and Sculli: Thank you both for your posts here and for viewing my log/journal. I appreciate the feedback, positive and negative, despite whether I agree with it. Dante, I guess I am, as you say, "another one" stacking two products with the aim of manipulating testosterone levels. I respect your views and wish you well in whatever supp, ph, etc. protocol you follow or don't follow. I selected this stack because my research indicates that it can work, and work well, if pre-planning is established effectively. I think I have put together I pretty solid cycle and will be pleased with the results at the end. My next cycle...to start in spring 2005 will be a M1T / 4-AD cycle. Again, I am planning that cycle now, several months out to make sure I am fully ready with no reservations and/or lingering questions. I have every confidence in my abilities to research and plan effectively...my results thusfar serve as a testiment of that...at least in my eyes.

Sculli...Thanks for your feedback and for viewing my log/journal.


hey brother if it works good for you than more power to you...im just saying if your liver isn't getting enough enzymes to convert the ph's maybe there is more potential stacking a norandro with it.

DJINN
12-09-2004, 09:19 AM
Today was a really solid day in the gym...especially considering I screwed myself out of sleep (only got 3 hours) to see Blade Trinity. Anyway, here is how it all went down...

*10 minutes bike warm-up

*Hammer Strength Incline Press: 4 warm-up sets (1x20@handles, 1x12@90, 1x6@180, and 1x4@230) Working sets as follows: 1x10@320, 1x8@340, 1x8@340, 1x5.5@345

*Flex Shoulder Press: 1x10@130, 1x6.5@135, 1x7@135

*DB Laterals: 1x12@25, 1x10@25

*Lying Tricep Extensions w/EZ-curl Bar (French Press): 1x6@110, 1x7@110

*Machine Seated Tricep Extensions: 1x12@250, 1x12@255

*10 minute bike cool down...I felt strong, focused and ready today. I was truly in a zone during most of the workout.

Everyday before I leave my home heading for the gym, I say the following aloud: "Once again I leave my house to do damage to my body as I engage in the war against my genetics." Sounds a bit corny, but it became part of my routine a few years ago and I never leave it out. Before each set I say to myself: "I will redine absolute failure with this set. I feel no pain, I know no fear, and I will meet failure head on." Just thought I'd share a bit more than the mundane workout routine stuff.

I mentioned boosting my calories this week by 290. My full diet is detailed on page on of this thread so please reference it if you need to. I am adding a 1/2 cup cottage cheese and fruit to my 10:00am meal bring my foods to: 2 servings 100% whey protein, 1 cup cottage cheese, a bagel, and a cup of diced fruit. This gives me 180 extra calories. I am also adding a 1/2 cottage cheese to my 4:00pm meal which now will look like exactly like the 10:00am meal but without the bagel...don't want all those carbs at this time of day. This adds another 110 calories for a total of 290.

My bodyweight assessment taken on Tuesday, 12-07-04, yielded a bodyweight of 189.3 lbs. This is a modest 1.3 lbs increase from last week for a total of 4.3lbs in 2 weeks. I am okay with this because after viewing my photos I feel slightly larger but still hard, defined, and very lean. Next post comes tomorrow after hams/calves. Take care.

DJINN
12-13-2004, 12:15 PM
It has been a few days since I posted last. I will start by saying that today marks the last day of week three. Tomorrow I will increase my calorie intake by 300cals and increase my 4-AD to 900mg/tid. 1-Test will remain at 375mg in 5 divided doses of 75mg each. I will post my week 3 end weight in my next post on 12-15-04. Here are the most recent workouts and the bad news.

12-11-04: Hams/Calves

*10 minutes bike

*Seated Ham Curls: 3 warm-up sets then - 1x10@200, 1x10@210, 1x6@215, 1x6@215

*Lying Ham Curls: 1x10@100, 1x8@105, 1x10@105

*Toe Press Machine: 2 warm-up sets then - 1x12@330, 1x10@340, 2x10@350

*10 minutes bike
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Now the bad news...

12-12-04: Back/Biceps

*10 minutes bike

*Bent Rows: 4 warm-up sets, then - 1x12@250, 1x3@265....BAM!

There is no more to report...as this is where it all ended...at the third rep of the 2nd working set. I felt a searing pain surge through my left lumbar area and immediate weakness followed. I literally crawled over to my wife on the treadmill and told her I required her assistance. We gathered my things and she graciously unloaded all 265 lbs from the bar for me. I spent the remainder of the day icing, popping advil and tylenol, standing or laying down, and contemplating the horror that had just transpired. My immediate thought was disc herniation. I made it throught the night and saw my doc this morning. I feel better today. Yesterday I had about 2 degrees of painless forward flexion and today maybe 10 degrees. The pain is less severe as well. The doc thinks a strained my spinal erectors and iliopsoas muscles. I tend to think that these are minor strains but that I've sprained several supportive ligaments. There may still be disc involvement but it would be minor. Doc says two weeks of conservative treatment then follow-up. I say no way. Here's my plan...

I will omit my quad/calf workout which should occur tomorrow, in lieu of another rest day. I will continue pain relief (aleve and muscle relaxants) along with icing today and tomorrow. Wednesday, I will re-set my workouts with Chest/Shoulders/Triceps and continue forward. I will alter my workouts a bit, as follows: No more lying triceps extensions of chest day...I can't put the strain on my back, so I'll do 4 sets of seating maching tri-extensions instead; I may drop laying ham curls; No more bent rows (sobbing...damn I love these), I will replace them with machine rows which support my back and no more DB shrugs (machine shrugs will replace), and no more hammer curls (machine curls will replace); Quad day will be a toss up...I can't squat, can't leg press, can't hack squat, can't lunge...leg extensions??? We will see. I will soldier on with intensity but with care. I will persevere throught this cycle and injury. That is the update thusfar. More on Wednesday after Chest/Shoulders/Triceps.

BusinessMan
12-14-2004, 09:29 AM
Wow, sorry to hear of the injury. Proceed with extreme caution, as I am sure you are aware. Keep us posted and good luck man!

DJINN
12-14-2004, 10:57 AM
Despite the injury I am going to continue on with caution. Things are going too well to stop and I look and feel great. This week I add 300 more calories and bump the 4-AD to 900mg. Assessment pics will not go up this week as I am posting them every 2 weeks...so next week, upon the end of week 4, there will be more pics. My weight today is 192lbs. This is approximately 3lbs up from last week for a total gain of 7lbs. I still look lean and I am still hard. I retain good muscle separation and striations remain visible in my quads which is always a good sign...abs are visible as well. My plan is to clear 200lbs and then account for PCT loss. I will hit M1T sometime in 2005...that's when the real fun begins! Tomorrow will be the next post. Thanks for your support.

yankees3
12-14-2004, 04:17 PM
be careful with that back injury. hope you get better soon. as usual, great posts. get well soon

R_N_S
12-14-2004, 05:09 PM
i've come across another one....i dont get why people stack 2 products that both convert to test. all they do is fight over conversion enzymes in the liver so by the time they're used their conversion rate is almost 0.

ok mr. know it all, since you're 17, you must know more than the thousands of people who combine 1ad/4ad and 1-T/4ad

1-T is 1-T, 4ad goes to just test, aka not the same, you're very wrong, they don't both convert to test, they don't fight for the same enzyme, and the conversion rate is not 0

go research so you don't come off as pompous and cocky as you do now because you're 100% wrong

thebrakes
12-15-2004, 06:21 AM
ok mr. know it all, since you're 17, you must know more than the thousands of people who combine 1ad/4ad and 1-T/4ad

1-T is 1-T, 4ad goes to just test, aka not the same, you're very wrong, they don't both convert to test, they don't fight for the same enzyme, and the conversion rate is not 0

go research so you don't come off as pompous and cocky as you do now because you're 100% wrong

very right. completely different compounds working via different chemical pathways.

only thing i would add is that 4-ad apparently has some benefits that lie outside that which can be explained by its test conversion. this is empirical evidence i've seen, not any studies. i'm speaking of a synergy that 4-ad creates with those 1-test compounds that seems to add muscle while abating sides.

DJINN
12-15-2004, 07:58 AM
Today is my birthday...and 3 days out from my lumbar injury. How am going to celebrate it? By going back to work for the 1st time this week! Yeah!? However, I got up this morning determined to get back in the game as best possible and had one of the best workouts yet...my focus was perfect because of the injury and it was all good. Here is how it went down...

*5 minutes bike

*Hammer Strength Incline Press - 4 warm ups (1x20@handles, 1x12@90, 1x6@180, 1x4@250) then: 1x10@340, 1x8@360, 1x7@360, 1x5.5@360...it was a great feeling looking at 4 plates each side moving in unison once again.

*Flex Shoulder Press: 1x10@135, 1x8@140, 1x7@140

*DB Laterals: 1x12@25, 1x12@30

*Machine Tricep Extensions: (4 sets instead of 2 to account for 2 sets of French Press): 1x12@255, 1x12@265, 1x13@280, 1x10@290

*5 minute bike cool down...this workout was phenomenal...not the best ever in terms of pounds pushed, but great considering the last few days of agony. I wore a lumbar brace and had assistance loading and unloading plates where necessary. During the last few days of recovery, my diet has remained consistent, although I purposely boosted my calories by 600 per day and increased my aminos and vitamin intake to facilitate recovery. As of today, I am back to my normal diet with a 300 calorie increase. This is accomplished by taking my basic diet, along with the previously mentioned changes, and adding a 1/2 serving of N-Large2 at 8:30am.

Tomorrow is hams/calves...altered of course to accomodate my back. Sometimes disaster can yield good things and this workout was one of them. Now that I am an older man (29).....................not a damn thing is going to change...just the number. Take care.

BigJoe15
12-15-2004, 09:08 AM
Lookin great, you are a beast lol. Lookin forward to seein your after pictures, also its nice to see a guy on the board using PH's who actually looks ready to take them. You have obviously done alot of research and planning for this cycle and I hope it goes well for you.

Peace


BigJoe

DJINN
12-20-2004, 12:39 PM
12-17-04: Hams/Calves

*10 minutes bike

*Seated Ham Curls - 3 warm-up sets then: 1x10@200, 1x10@210, 1x6@215, and 1x5@215.

*Lying Ham Curls: 1x10@100, 2x10@105

*Toe Press Machine - 2 warm-up sets then: 2x10@350, 1x11@350, and 1x10@350

*5 minute bike cool down...kept the hamstring resistance the same as last week as a caution due to the back injury. Calf resistence went up because my low back is not in a precarious position during this exercise.

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12-19-04: Back/Biceps

Today was a defining moment...either this was going to be a decent workout or it was going to destroy my low back. I altered the workout slightly replacing barbell bent rows with Hammer Strength Seated Rows and DB Shrugs with Hammer Strength Machine Rows (standing). All went well...no pain, no suffering, no tightness.

*10 minute bike warm-up

*Hammer Strength Seated Rows - 2 warm up sets then: 1x10@230, 1x10@270, 1x7@320, 1x6@320.

*Hammer Strength Over-hand Grip Pulldowns: 1x8@90, 2x8@100

*Pull-ups: 1x15, 1x10

*Hammer Strength Seated Shrugs: 1x10@180, 1x10@270

*DB Hammer Curls: 3x8@55

*5 minute bike cooldown

Today, 12-20-04 marks the last day of week 4. As such, I will take assessment photos, weigh myself, and post all of this plus any dietary/supplement changes in the next day or two. I will say that tomorrow I increase my 1-Test to 450mg where it shall remain for weeks 5&6. 4-AD shall stay at 900mg for the last two weeks. My calories will go up an additional 300 per day. Should be fun. I am still feeling good and still feel hard, strong, and lean...I guess the pics will tell the true story though.

CorpsBoy2008
12-20-2004, 12:58 PM
seriously dude... ur a f**kin hoss...

what are your numbers? did your lifts improve much on the cycle?

thebrakes
12-20-2004, 01:53 PM
seriously dude... ur a f**kin hoss...

what are your numbers? did your lifts improve much on the cycle?

and where does your weight stand in relation to the start of the cycle? that shouldnt have been impacted by the injury.

yankees3
12-26-2004, 05:15 AM
???

DJINN
12-27-2004, 07:54 AM
Sorry about my absence from the boards and this journal. I came down with the worse cold I've had in a while and it sidelined me for a few days...which rolled right into the madness that is the Christmas holiday. Nevertheless, first let me answer a few questions.

Corpsboy2008: By numbers, do mean bodyweight and measurements or weights lifted? I have never, nor will I take body part measurements. I think it is pointless...I simply use my mirror as my gauge and focus on full body symmetry rather than 20" guns...not that mine are...like you didn't know that! My weight lifted is an interesting point as well. I have not maxed on any lift since high school...and now, what is the point in knowing how much I can bench or squat? I am a bodybuilder and 1-rep max amounts are meaningless. My strength has gone up on most of my lifts during this cycle. I have always trained heavy though, and always will. If you have more specific ?'s, let me know. Thanks for your interest.

thebrakes: My weight...I don't know at this time since the digital scale at my workout facility has been down for 2 weeks. It is the only scale I use, for consistency, as I know it is calibrated regularly. The last I checked, at the end of week 3, I was 192lbs...this is 7lbs up from my starting 185lbs. As soon as the scale is repaired, I will post an updated weight assessment.

DJINN
12-27-2004, 08:10 AM
It has been a while...so let me post my workout progress. I last posted my 12-19-04 back/biceps workout. I skipped quads again to provide for injury recovery. I will hit my quads this week for this 1st time in 2 weeks. Nevertheless, I was afflicted with a major cold that sidelined me for a few days, so was only able to get in 2 workouts since the 19th...but I am back on track now. During sickness and my absence, my nutrition remained consistent as did supplementation...vitamin C being the exception...I increased to 5000mg from 3000mg. I am back to 3000mg now. My nutrition is as follows as I prepare to head into week 6 tomorrow:

Wake at 4:00am

4:15am - ON's 100% whey (double serving) in water, vitmain C - 1000mg, multivitamin, creatine 5mg, and glutamine 5mg. On workout days, I will take 2-3 Xenadrine NRG.

4:30am - off to the gym
4:45-5:45am - workout

6:00am - ON's Procomplex Protein (double serving) in 8oz water/8oz gatorade.

7:00am - Prolab's N-Large2 - full serving, creatine 5mg, vitamin C 1000mg

8:30am - Prolab's N-Large2 - full serving

10:00am - 1 cup cottage cheese, double serving of ON's 100% whey, bagel, fruit

1:00pm - Lunch (whatever I want...within reason)

4:00pm - 1 cup cottage cheese, double serving of ON's whey and fruit.

7:00pm - Dinner (whatever I want...within reason)

10:00pm - Double serving of Procomplex Protein, vitamin C, multivitamin, and glutmaine 5 mg.

10:30pm - Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


My 1-Test is at 450mg split into six, 75mg doses at 7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm, and 10pm. My 4-AD is at 900mg split into three, 300mg doses at 7am, 1pm, and 7pm. I am going to extend my cycle to 8, maybe 10 weeks. I will definitely go 8 weeks and will report any changes I make to 1-Test or 4-AD in the next week or so. Pics will be posted tomorrow...taken last week but not posted then because I was just to damn sick to feel like doing anything. Okay, so here are the two workouts:


12-23-04: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

*10 minutes bike warm up

*Hammer Strength Incline Press (1x20@handles, 1x12@90, 1x6@180, 1x4@270...warm-up sets): 1x10@360, 1x8@360, 2x6@360

*Flex Shoulder Press: 1x10@140, 1x7.5@150, 1x6.5@150

*DB Laterals: 1x13@30, 1x8@35

*Machine Seated Triceps Extensions (overhead): 1x15@290, 1x13@290, 1x10@290, 1x8@290

*5 minute bike cool down
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12-27-04: Hams/Calves

*10 minute warm-up on bike

*Seated Ham Curls: 2x8@200, 2x6@200

*Lying Ham Curls: 1x10@100, 2x10@105

*Toe Press Machine: 2x10@350, 1x10@355, 1x10@360

*10 minute bike cooldown

Pugilist
12-27-2004, 08:31 AM
What's up DJINN, I am glad to see that you are going to go 8 weeks. My cycle has been going great, but I came down with a cold too. Although mine does not seem to be as bad as yours. I have changed my workout around, as now I am doing supersets for each body part. I will be posting my results in my log. Keep doing great and lifting hard.

P.S. I think it was a couple of posts back, you said that you tell yourself something to pump you up before you go to the gym. Well I thought that sounded like a good idea, so now I tell myself that "I own the weight, the weight does not own me, I will punish myself now for not lifting heavier the lift before, I will own the iron" I have to say that before I go to the gym and before lifts like squats. Thanks for the motivation bro.

DJINN
12-27-2004, 02:22 PM
Pugilist: Thanks for your continued support and following of my log. I continue to follow your's as well and see that your progressing just fine. I will be quite interested in seeing how we both fair in the end, particularly after PCT. Glad to hear that I could provide some sort of motivation...that is one benefit of having boards like this. Take care bro.

yankees3
12-27-2004, 02:28 PM
glad you're back bro, i thought you abandoned the thread. keep kickin' ass and as usual, good job on the journal.

konefatp
12-28-2004, 09:15 AM
did you strip the fat with this cycle???

DJINN
12-28-2004, 09:53 AM
Did I strip the fat with this cycle? No. I make it a habit to stay lean all year round. I never, and I mean never bulk for the sake of bulking or putting on "weight". I am in this game to build muscle mass...lean mass and not just weight. Who cares if I weigh 250lbs if I have 20% bodyfat obscuring my muscles? Now, if I weigh 220lbs and have less than 10% bodyfat...In any case, I did not seek to lose fat with this cycle and I hope that all reading this thread and others that seek to gain lean mass, make it a point to lean out first and stay that way as you gain lean mass. This process takes a bit slower to see the scale go up, but at least you won't have to burn off fat to see your results. Take care.

DJINN
12-28-2004, 09:59 AM
I know these pics should have been posted last week, so I am a bit behind. This marks the start of week 6 and I will post more pics next week. I am extending this cycle out to at least 8 weeks...maybe 10...more than likely 8. I will post pics again at the end of 8 weeks and 10 weeks if I go that long, and then again at the end of PCT. I have no idea what I weight at this point...see previous post in this thread for explanation. Enjoy, critique, question or shreak in horror at the pics that follow. Thanks for your support and following this log.

DJINN
12-28-2004, 10:00 AM
Here are three lower body shots...with no embarassing printed briefs!

konefatp
12-28-2004, 10:14 AM
Did I strip the fat with this cycle? No. I make it a habit to stay lean all year round. I never, and I mean never bulk for the sake of bulking or putting on "weight". I am in this game to build muscle mass...lean mass and not just weight. Who cares if I weigh 250lbs if I have 20% bodyfat obscuring my muscles? Now, if I weigh 220lbs and have less than 10% bodyfat...In any case, I did not seek to lose fat with this cycle and I hope that all reading this thread and others that seek to gain lean mass, make it a point to lean out first and stay that way as you gain lean mass. This process takes a bit slower to see the scale go up, but at least you won't have to burn off fat to see your results. Take care.
thanks very much for answering such a noobie question with a good detailed anwser, you get a rep even though they arent worth anything i think you will be able to help lots of people

DJINN
12-28-2004, 10:55 AM
Glad I could be of assistance...this is what boards like this exist for...or at least what they should exist for: to share information, motivate, inspire, and educate each other. A little fun here and there is not bad either. Take care.

DJINN
12-29-2004, 07:34 AM
Today was good old back and biceps. I felt sluggish this morning but got my ass up and went to work destroying my back and biceps. Here is how it all went down...

*5 minute warm-up on bike...5 minutes walking on treadmill and light stretching of lumbar region.

*Hammer Strength Seated High Rows (1x20@90, 1x8@180, 1x4@270 - warm-up sets): 1x10@320, 1x8@340, 1x10@340, 1x6@340

*Hammer Strength Over-hand Grip Pull-downs: 1x9@100, 1x6@110, 1x6@100 (dropped weight to 100lbs since I felt too much biceps involvement at 110)

*Pull-ups: 1x11, 1x9

*Hammer Strength Shrugs (1x6@180 warm-up): 1x12@270, 1x10@360

*Hammer Curls: 2x8@55, 1x7@55

*5 minutes bike cool-down with light stretching

I felt good throughout this workout and all exercises provide ample back support via chest pads. Today was a Metallica (old...And Justice for All), Pantera (R.I.P. "Dimebag"), and AC/DC day. You can imagine the intensity created with training partners like that!

DJINN
12-31-2004, 10:07 AM
This is my first quad workout since 12-06-04...due to my back injury. My plan was to go easy and work my way back in slowly. Here is how it went down:

*15 minutes bike

*Leg extensions as general warm-up: 1x12@75, 1x10@90

*Leg Press: 1x20@90, 1x20@180, 1x20@270, 1x20@360, 1x20@450

*Lunges: 1x10@135 (alternating manner with barbell), 1x8@155

*Seated Calf Raises: (1x10@45 warm-up) 1x10@90, 3x10@135

*10 minute bike cooldown

Overall, I am satisfied with the way things went down. No back pain and good focus. Still at 450mg with 1-Test and 900mg with 4-AD. Everyone have a safe and happy new year celebration!

DJINN
01-04-2005, 10:01 AM
Happy New Year to all!!! Here are the results of my last two workouts since my last post:

1-2-05: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

*10 minute warm-up on bike

*Hammer Strength Incline Press: 2x8@360, 1x6.5@360, 1x3.5@360 (this last set, I was just dead)

*Flex Shoulder Press: 1x10@150, 1x8@150, 1x7.5@150

*DB Laterals: 1x13@30, 1x8@35

*Machine Tricep Overhead Extensions: 1x12@295, 1x13@300, 1x11@305, and 1x10@310

*5 minute bike cooldown...

***Of note - my triceps tendons were pretty sore prior to this workout and my right pec tendon was pretty sore as well...I have no idea why. The poor last set of HSIP really motivated my to kick some ass the remainder of the workout.
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1-4-05: Hams & Calves

*10 minutes bike

*Seated Hamstring Curls: 1x10@200, 1x7@210, 1x8@210, 1x7@210

*Lying Hamstring Curls: 2x10@105, 1x7@110

*Toe Press: 1x10@360, 1x10@365, 1X12@370, 1x11@375

*10 minutes bike cool down

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This week I will post pics for the end of week 6 and an update on my weight...I promise by tomorrow. My 1-Test is going up this week as I am extending this cycle and will detail these changes when I post my pics and weight. It is pretty exciting stuff. Thanks for following and for your support.

DJINN
01-05-2005, 09:47 AM
I mentioned before that I am extending my cycle and thus it continues. I still don't have a weight to post because the damn digital scale at my gym is still not fixed! I work out at an upscale facility and pay good money for my membership, but they can't get a friggin' scale fixed in a timely manner! Anyway, I am going to venture to the other gym that I retain a membership at and use their digital scale tomorrow morning. I will post that figure here then. I am increasing my 1-testabolan AQ to 600mg this week...and then I will make some additional adjustments, that at the present time I am not going to reveal. I will soon enough. My diet will remain...no additional caloric increases at this time. I feel great...I am still lean, strong, and quite pleased with the way my workouts are progressing. Attached are new pics from the end of week six...so these would have been taken monday of this week. The lower body shots will follow tomorrow as I have managed to misplace the memory card that holds the pics.

DJINN
01-05-2005, 09:49 AM
Here are the upper body pics...lower body to follow tomorrow...

DJINN
01-05-2005, 09:51 AM
Again, lower body shots to follow tomorrow...

DJINN
01-06-2005, 09:35 AM
Sorry everyone, but I still can't find my damn memory card for lower body pics. As soon as I do, I will post the pics. Here is what I will post today though: my back/biceps workout and my weight.

Back/Biceps

*10 minutes bike warm-up

*Hammer Strength High Rows: after warm up sets - 1x10@340, 1x9@360, 1x7@360, 1x6@360

*Hammer Strength Overhand Grip Pull-downs: 1x8@100, 1x7@100, 1x6@100

*Pull-ups: 1x10, 1x8

*Hammer Strength Standing Shrugs: 2x10@360

*Hammer Curls: 1x10@55, 1x8@55, 1x7@55

*5 minute bike cool-down
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My current bodyweight per digital scale...the same scale I've used for every other weight assessment (it is now fixed and recalibrated) is 196lbs. This represents an 11lb gain over the 6weeks of my cycle. Perhaps this could have been better sans the back injury and illness, but I am happy thusfar. I am not one of those people that unreasonably say I gained 11lbs of muscle in 6 weeks! I will say however that the pics I have taken over the 6 week period illustrate a lean gaining process. I maintain muscular separation and good definition...my freakin' quads are still striated. My waist is the same size as it was upon starting per clothing fit and pictoral assessment. I am continuing my cycle for a few more weeks before PCT so that I may hit or surpass the 200lb mark. That is my goal and I know I will make it.

DJINN
01-06-2005, 09:43 AM
Since I started this log I have tried my best to be accountable for everything, good and bad, that has happened along the way. I update regularly and post detailed information with pics every two weeks. I have answered numerous private message question, which I am honored to do. But here is my gripe. I have recieved a few e-mails attacking me...arguing that I have planned poorly, that my workouts are too brief, and my weights posted are not real. Some have even argued that my pics are not me! Okay, so here it is. I have no reason to try to impress anyone here, therefore I see no justification for lying about anything...I don't know anyone here and none of you know me. My log was for ME to stay accountable during this cycle and I am happy that many of you have taken an interest and have been supportive. For the "haters", to use the slang so popular these days, I welcome your criticism as it fuels my fire. I invite any of you to join me during any of my workouts and see for yourself if my numbers are real. I guess the final thing to say to the "haters" would be to ask, "What are you doing?", "What are your stats?", "Where are your pics to substantiate your claims?" Following this post about this issue, I will attend to this matter no further, but I just really felt compelled to say something.

To end on a positive note...to all those following this log, thank you.

R_N_S
01-06-2005, 09:53 AM
good stuff djinn, i can definitely see some mass gains in the upper body, hopefully yours legs came along as well with the back injury and all, goodluck upping the dosage to 600mg, i hope the sides aren't too overwhelming, are you planning that dosage for only a week? you posted earlier a report of some lethargy at 400-450mg so hopefully this 600mg dosage doesn't feel like a brick wall hit ya, anyway, good luck continuing/finishing the cycle, keep those calories up, remember you're almost a 200 lb beast now! not some little 185 lb guy anymore!!! I know it may be hard to watch yourself gain some fat, but I'm in a very similar position as you, im not nearly as thick as you, but very similarly built in that i'm pretty cut, so I know that you're probably the same as me in that at the drop of a hat you can adjust your diet, do some cardio, and in a week shed all the fat you put on during the cycle, challenge yourself during these 600mg dosages to put on as much mass as possible, then cut weight for a week or 2 and I promise the extra muscle gained will outweigh the little bit of fat you need to burn off

o, and don't worry about the haters, your cycle's fine, the dosages are a bit high to me for a first cycle, but you're upped them responsibly knowing that you can handle certain amounts and it sounds as though you're fully aware of what you need to do to deal with what a cycle like this will bring on to you, during and post, keep us updated all throughout pct if you could, would like to see how much of your gains are retained!

chan_ho_nam
01-06-2005, 10:54 AM
Since I started this log I have tried my best to be accountable for everything, good and bad, that has happened along the way. I update regularly and post detailed information with pics every two weeks. I have answered numerous private message question, which I am honored to do. But here is my gripe. I have recieved a few e-mails attacking me...arguing that I have planned poorly, that my workouts are too brief, and my weights posted are not real. Some have even argued that my pics are not me! Okay, so here it is. I have no reason to try to impress anyone here, therefore I see no justification for lying about anything...I don't know anyone here and none of you know me. My log was for ME to stay accountable during this cycle and I am happy that many of you have taken an interest and have been supportive. For the "haters", to use the slang so popular these days, I welcome your criticism as it fuels my fire. I invite any of you to join me during any of my workouts and see for yourself if my numbers are real. I guess the final thing to say to the "haters" would be to ask, "What are you doing?", "What are your stats?", "Where are your pics to substantiate your claims?" Following this post about this issue, I will attend to this matter no further, but I just really felt compelled to say something.

To end on a positive note...to all those following this log, thank you.

Awesome log bro. Jealousy isn't criticism, the haters can't make themselves look better, so they try and down play others. Keep up the good work man.

DJINN
01-10-2005, 07:52 AM
Rippednshredded and Chan_ho_nam: Thanks to both of you bros for your supportive words. It is good to see continued support in light of some negativity. Ripped, I plan on continuing this log throughout my PCT and will continue to post daily workouts, diet, supplement protocols, and pics. Some may argue that the 1-test dose is now a bit high, but I am prepared for it and will roll with it for another week. I will push the Kcals a bit and get as much from this as I can. I can always manipulate carbs and add a bit of cardio to burn unwanted fat during and after PCT.

DJINN
01-10-2005, 07:58 AM
I promised to be completely accountable and so here is a confession...I do not feel completely happy about this one but stuff happens. I attended a wedding and reception on 1-7-05, and let's just say I consumed a bit more of the friendly spirits than I hoped to...so I guess they were not very friendly in the end. I know this is contraindicated, particularly during a PH cycle, but sometimes circumstances get the best of you. Needless to say, I did not feel very well the next day and I delayed my Quads workout until today...so here is how it went down:

*10 minutes bike

*Leg Extensions: 1x12@75, 1x10@90...general warm-up for knees

*Leg Press: Here I simply repeated the progression from last week's workout as follows - 1x20@90, 1x20@180, 1x20@270, 1x20@360, 1x20@450

*Lunges: 1x10@135, 1x8@155

*Seated Calf Raises: 1x10@90, 3x10@135

*10 minutes bike

I plan on pushing things a bit more next workout and taking the leg press weight up quite a bit...although I like the pain of 20 rep sets. The lunges will go up to 185 or thereabout...eventually getting back into the 225 or 230 range. Seated calves will go up to 160 and slowly back up to 180.

double gonad
01-10-2005, 09:01 AM
My nutrition is as follows as I prepare to head into week 6 tomorrow:

Wake at 4:00am

4:15am - ON's 100% whey (double serving) in water, vitmain C - 1000mg, multivitamin, creatine 5mg, and glutamine 5mg. On workout days, I will take 2-3 Xenadrine NRG.

4:30am - off to the gym
4:45-5:45am - workout



Kind of an off topic question so I hope you don't mind. I'm going to be switching my workout time from late evening to early morning in about a month. I noticed that you only have some whey pre-workout, not really any carbs in there. Is there a reason you don't carb up? I guess you are finding that you have enough energy to get you through your workout...are you drinking Gatorade or anything during your workout?

Like I said I'm asking because I'm going to be working out first thing in the morning and I'm trying to settle on a pre-workout meal.

Thanks!

olddog99
01-10-2005, 10:06 AM
excellent records. one thing , you reported a 11lb gain on this 6 week cycle. i have looked at the pics, you have a good frame and obviousely experinced, what would you normally get, given the didication this cyle vs the ame didiication with out the 1AD and 4 ad, your past compasisions woul be grat as it seems that you have kept vey good records.

DJINN
01-10-2005, 01:51 PM
I keep my carbs low pre-workout and sip gatorade during. This way I am still getting simple sugars which are burned to fuel my workouts. Post-workout, I load carbs for the next few meals, before scaling back as the evening hours approach. I never have energy depletion during a workout unless I am sleep deprived or ill. My body has acclimated well to this system. I know many who will do an MRP, consume simple carbs, or drink a carb:protien mix before working out. The best advice I can give you, since your physiology is unique to you, is to try a few approaches until you find one that works best for you. Good luck with your switch...been there, done that!

DJINN
01-10-2005, 02:00 PM
Hey man thanks for your kind words. The great thing about this 11lb gain is that it is a lean gain...I am not bloated nor am I fat. I still look lean, separated and the pics don't provide the detail of striations and a grainy look. This is my first cycle, so what I began with shows you where I was at. I have always retained this same level of dedication with diet, workouts, recovery, etc...this is not a new thing just because I started a cycle. My family is genetically predispositioned to be small...all others are below 135-140lbs. I have fought tooth and nail over the years to get to the 185lbs I started at, but never lost sight of my goals and remained focused on gaining lean mass. I did not want to bulk and gain weight just for the sake of gaining weight...I want to gain lean, functional mass. I look as supplements as just that, even PHs, in that you need to have the rest of your stuff together before you add them. Supplements and PHs or even AAS do not magically put slabs of beef on a person. You need to have a great work ethic, tenacity when it comes to dietary consistency, dedication to make the necessary sacrifices, and patience...only then, and after you've maximized your natural potential with these elements as I have, would I suggest a cycle for anyone. Take care.

olddog99
01-11-2005, 01:25 PM
thanks, it appears to be the hardness of the gain, without the bloat, I have looked at the pics and your thighs were already straited, it appeared that density and separation were added to the overall weight gain. how about actual # gains ie upper arm UP ? or thigh up ? waist starting ? ended ? I am also doing a cycle of M1T along with others like CEE and HMB, I have also noticed a density and separation change, the best thing is its happening after only 9 days, I am very maticulouse in trg and records. So i know the difference, i did a raw pumbed upper arm measurement and was up 3 /8 on an inch from any other previouse measuremnt i have ever taking, period, so there has to be something different from other trg cycles and supplement regimines. So keep up the good work. your records and openness are valuable information for others who are interested and queriouse weather these supplements live up to their claims and warnings. have you experience any of the hard sides?

Durty Sanchez
01-11-2005, 01:50 PM
Awesome awesome log, man. It is so nice to read an intelligent thread by someone with a good grasp of the English language.

You have a a pretty incredible physique for someone that has never supplemented with PH's or AAS.

Forgive me if this has been asked already but, how tall are you?? By your weight I'm guessing you're about 5'9" or 5'10"?

DJINN
01-12-2005, 09:05 AM
Olddog99...I need to say that I have never measured my arm size or any other body part for that matter. Rather, I have always been an advocate of using my mirror as my guide...even more so than the scale. I have no idea where my arm size was when I started and I will not measure them at the cycle's end. What I look at to judge this cycle as successful is a positive gain in lean body mass, strength increase, and the absence of side effects. The scale and mirror give me an idea of where my gains come from...and i need to add that symmetry is key. We've all seen the big arm guys who bench and curl everyday, but look like they'd topple over if a hard wind blew due to scrawny legs. I feel that I have remained true to total body development. My waist size has not increased as my clothing still fits the same...nothing fits around my waist any more snug than it did 11lbs ago. This is a good sign. Hard, dense, lean gains are what I am all about...otherwise what is the point, really? If fat covers your hard-earned muscle...I know you know where I'm going with this so I'll shut up now.

Durty Sanchez: Love the handle! Thanks for your supportive and kind words. To answer your question, I stand approximately 5'8" tall give or take a few millimeters. My ultimate goal is to get my lean weight up to 225 or 230lbs. Time and patience and consistency will see me there. Take care.

DJINN
01-12-2005, 09:19 AM
Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

*10 minutes bike warm-up

*Hammer Strength Incline Press: 3x10@270, 1x8@270

*Flex Shoulder Press: 1x7@155, 1x5.5@155

*DB Laterals: 1x13@30, 1x10@30

*Machine Tri-Extensions: 3x10@300, 1x9@300

*5 minute bike cool down


Today was an interesting day. My focus was way off due to stuff in my personal life and despite my best efforts, I just could not get it together. Furthermore, my triceps tendons at the distal end of the humerus (near the olecranon process...err, elbow) were very sore again prior to the start of the workout. I am quite confident that tendinitis is an issue here and it is not a good feeling. I purposely went light on exercises today in light of the tenderness. I know this stems from using such heavy weight particularly on the Machine Tri-Extensions, and working through a full ROM. Next week, I will likely follow a moderately heavy scheme like today, but shorten my ROM by about 10-20 degrees. In a few weeks after PCT, I will take a full week off to allow CNS and physical recovery from this workout cycle, prior to starting the next. I will not hit my 1st M1T cycle until sometime in summer. I will aim to compete for the first time in late fall 2005...should be fun.

Durty Sanchez
01-12-2005, 09:53 AM
Have you tried MSM? A couple of bros in my gym swear by it for joint pain and/or tendonitis.

RayF
01-12-2005, 10:25 AM
Great job man, cycle looks very good. Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread but I was wondering why you only do one exercise for chest and 2 or 3 for most other body parts? I am a hard gainer and stick to 1 or 2 excercises per body part myself.

yankees3
01-12-2005, 11:27 AM
MSM/Glucosimine helped me out alot (tendonitis problems before and after RC surgery). Give it a shot. It's pretty cheap and the worst that can happen is you'll waste a few bucks if it doesn't work for you. Hope everything works out with whatever personal problems you're having. Keep your head up.

sawastea
01-12-2005, 12:12 PM
Wow, I can't believe I skipped this thread. DJINN, you're looking solid. Definite improvement in vascularity, leanness and overall appearance. The log was well done and detailed. Happt belated birthday and major props on a great transformation!!!

Congrats :D

DJINN
01-13-2005, 02:36 PM
First and foremost, thanks to all for the supportive and positive comments. Now specific replies...

Durty and Yanks - The MSM and G/C are products that I've used in the past with great success and have already purchased since posting last. Did you really think I would let a little joint pain and tendinitis stop me now? Thanks for your advice guys...I really appreciate it.

RayF - During this workout cycle I wanted to use my Chest/Shoulders/Tris day to focus more on shoulder development than chest. In other workout cycles, not supplement cycles, I have selected other areas as priority. For example, last cycle I did Hammer Strength Chest Press (3 sets), DB Incline Presses (2 sets), Weighted Dips (2 sets) and Flyes (1 set). Although I only do one exercise for chest, I do 4 heavy sets to failure. I do believe that it is not the volume of exercises you choose but the actual exercises you choose and the intensity of your work. One last thing...and people do not give enough thought here & I know this goes beyond your question: proper biomechanics is essential!

Sawastea: Thanks for your kind words...and birthday wishes. And hey, the log goes on...as does my cycle. Stay tuned as I will continue entries throughout the end of this cycle and then throughout PCT.

DJINN
01-13-2005, 03:00 PM
This was a question raised a few posts ago and I neglected to answer it. Waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy back in the early weeks I experienced some lethargy. But that was when I was running 600mg of 4-AD and increasing my 1-Test. At 900mg of 4-AD, much of that went by the wayside. This is the only side effect I have experienced. I still feel fatigued at times...and I have had occassional sore throats...also unusual for me. No sexual problems, groin discomfort (testicular), or other adverse events reported by some. Just thought I'd give everyone an update.

DJINN
01-17-2005, 07:13 AM
When it rains...it pours. Since my last post, I've endured the death of a relative and was rear-ended by a semi on the highway! The relative's passing of course takes its emotional toll on all and thankfully I was able to walk away from the semi accident...I was quite surprised considering traffic came to a sudden halt...I had about 3 feet between myself and the car in front of me and then I looked in my rearview mirror: a semi slowing down but just not able to stop in time and I had nowhere to go. That is life...I just never imagined that I would have a 3-way this way (three car accident)! You guys know me a little by now, and I tend to persevere despite setbacks...so I was back in the gym yesterday for my hamstring/calf workout. Here is how it went down:

*10 minutes bike

*Seated Ham Curls: 4x8@200

*Lying Ham Curls: 3x8@105

*Toe Press Machine: 4x10@360

*10 minutes bike

I was conservative with my weights since the two aforementioned events created a longer interval between ham/calves workouts than I am accustomed to. Nevertheless, I felt good and my focus was good. I am going to try to get some new pics up this week and if not this week, then definitely next week. Today is an off day and tomorrow I will hit back and biceps.

My supps are the same, diet is the same, and I feel good.

yankees3
01-18-2005, 11:59 AM
sorry about your loss. hang in there

Durty Sanchez
01-18-2005, 12:13 PM
Yeah, hang in there, bro.

DJINN
01-19-2005, 09:04 AM
Here are the results of my most recent back and biceps workout. I went into the gym today feeling good and determined to have a good workout. I look forward to moving heavy iron and this day is no exception. My elbows still ache despite the G/C and MSM, but it is much too early to expect dramatic results. Per usual, I take my NSAIDS and ice after my workouts. So here is how it all went down...

*5 minutes bike

*Hammer Strength High Rows: 1x8@340, 2x7@360, 1x8@360

*Hammer Strength Overhand-Grip Pull-downs: 1x9@100, 1x8@100, 1x7@100

*Pull-ups: 1x10, 1x8

*Hammer Strength Shrugs: 2x10@360

*Hammer Curls (DB): 1x8@60, 2x6@65

*5 minutes bike

I felt really good during this workout and my focus was on. I still feel strong and the pumps remain good.

DJINN
01-19-2005, 09:06 AM
Here are a few pics a meant to post earlier...they are not the greatest pics, but I take my own pics...this means having to set the timer and get my ass in place before it goes off. I am splitting this set into two posts.

DJINN
01-19-2005, 09:12 AM
I few more pics...

DJINN
01-19-2005, 09:14 AM
I've included one of my close and personal friend during this cycle...my friend of course pre-ban...I would never be affiliated with such friends after the ban!

SwingGuru
01-19-2005, 01:44 PM
i've come across another one....i dont get why people stack 2 products that both convert to test. all they do is fight over conversion enzymes in the liver so by the time they're used their conversion rate is almost 0.

Because they don't both convert to Test.
1Test doesn't need to convert, it is already active. Not very orally active IMO, but active.
4Ad does convert to Test, you are right on that one

1 out of 3 aint too good.

R_N_S
01-19-2005, 01:47 PM
he's already been banned and informed of his ignorance


DJINN great work bro, i can definitely see some bulkage, it does look like you're a bit bloated in the midsection but hey that's part of the game, excellent work so far, can't wait to see how everything comes out after your pct

DJINN
01-19-2005, 03:03 PM
Rippednshredded...thanks bro. The midsection bloating is part of the game but is easy to eliminate when all is said and done. At the very end of this journal, when it ends finally, I am going to post pics that match the identical poses and positions as my before pics. This will improve comparison. Take care bro.

w i c k e d
01-19-2005, 03:58 PM
You are huge. Why don't you compete?

I'm also curious why you don't use much weight on the leg press, but I would assume it's because you are trying to get more definition out of them?

DJINN
01-20-2005, 12:19 PM
I have always told myself that I would not compete in any form until I felt ready and was happy with the package I could present. I have decided to compete for the first time this year...I will be gunning for a fall show, but have not decided which one yet. My plan is to be in a position to start pre-contest at around 220lbs. We shall see.

Leg press...for years I have done heavy squats (heavy for me - upwards of 450-500lbs for sets/reps) and heavy leg press movements to build my foundation. I have gone light this workout cycle due to some knee discomfort and my lumbar injury. As the months progress, I will stack on the weight and get to pressing over a grand and doing my lunges with 230-250lbs. With the back injury recovery, I just want to proceed with caution. Finally, do not buy into the light weights for definition idea...definition as we call it, is a product of genetics, diet (low bodyfat), and muscular development. Take care bro.

TE
02-07-2005, 12:16 PM
Curious to see how much of your gains you kept. You left us hangin'.

DJINN
03-29-2005, 10:38 AM
After numerous personal-life adventures and drama, I return to give an update (who cares, huh?) as to how things ended with my 1-Test/4-AD cycle. I ended the cycle at 201lbs. I have no idea what my bf% was before or after, but besides bloat from 4-AD, I looked very lean. After PCT, I weighed 196lbs...lean and hard. This equates to an 11lb overall after discounting the 5lb loss during PCT. Since then I have battled the flu twice and most recently a bout of food poisoning. I am rebounding well despite dropping some pounds (life sucks sometimes). In any case, I am taking a few more weeks of clean eating and moderate workouts into what will be a new cycle. Hypothetically speaking, if I were to have some M1T on hand, I might do a cycle of that in a few weeks...if it were not banned and illegal. So I think I'll start a new log in a few weeks detailing my hypothetical cycle. Finally, I want to thank everyone who followed this journal and went on this journey with me. Your support has meant alot during some very troubled times and definitely provided the necessary motivation to keep on keepin' on when times got tough. See ya in a few weeks with a new thread. In the interim, I'll continue to lurk and post. Take care.

R_N_S
03-29-2005, 11:05 AM
good to hear from you, i was wondering how it all turned out

11 lbs of lean gains is solid, especially going through the adversity you did during the cycle, and now dealing with illness, im sure you still look lean going from your pre cycle pics, I'm glad it all worked out great for you, keep the calories high and i hope PCT all works out for you

o, and good luck in that hypothetical M1T cycle

yankees3
03-29-2005, 11:15 AM
11 lbs isn't bad considering everything you went through. Good job. Shoot me a pm or email and let me know when you start your log on your hypothetical cycle.

tonytartufo
04-08-2005, 10:39 AM
Hey DJINN! I'm curious to know whether you stayed with the 6-OXO for PCT or if you added Nolva to it? Please let me know dosages too!

My reason being that I am planning to do a 4 week stack of 1-TU and Boldione! I'm still trying to figure out my PCT. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

tonytartufo
04-10-2005, 09:38 AM
bump