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rheeley
09-09-2004, 06:31 PM
Hi people, am new to this board so excuse me for not having a clue :)

I am 21 and would like to start bodybuilding, i dont want to bother lifting at a gym however, without the proper diet as i have been reading bb.com for weeks and know that the lifting without diet is pretty much pointless.

I have been on fitday.com trying to work out a good diet to get me 3500-4000 decent calories a day but just cant seem to get over 2900 realistically. I dont even know where to start as i cant understand a lot of the diets on the articles on bb.com.

For example people talk of breakfasts consisting of 1/2 cup dry oats, 2 scoops whey, 1tbsp pbutter, pint of milk, 2 eggs etc....is this meant to be blended together in a shake or all consumed seperate? i dont see how you would just eat dry oats?

Also when people talk about a 'cup' of cottage cheese? what sorta cup are we talking as i only ever see little tubs of it at the supermarket?

Also am unsure of wat supps i should use as i am seeing varying opinions on them all. I am 6'2 and weight around 196 pounds. Think my bf% is around 15%.

Maybe its better to cut before bulking or should i start with bulking? can anyone help me sort a diet out as i have spent 2 weeks on it with no luck and really wanna start training to look at least a little better in 4 weeks when i go to meet my g/f parents.

I work 8 hour shifts and cant be cooking meals mid shift obviously, so need foods that can realistically keep decent in a day...can eat anything in morning and after work tho. Am willing to purchase anything necessary for the diet and will eat anything, dont care how foul it tastes.

The diet i was working on is below, please give me any help that you can, i would really appreciate it!!!

::Wake up at 0600::

0630am - breakfast

1 glass of orange juice (108 cal, 25g carbs, 1g pro)

1/2 pint of semi-skimmed milk (110 cal, 12g carbs, 8g pro)
2 scoops of n-large2 (300 cal, 43g carbs, 26g pro)
1/2 cup of oats (166 cal, 29g carbs, 7g pro)
1 serving of v12 turbo

totals = 684 cal, 109 carbs, 42 pro
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1000am - 1st work break - 15 mins

1 wholegrain turkey sandwich (158 cal, 14g carbs, 15g pro)
1 pear (98 cals, 25g carbs, 1g pro)

totals = 256 cal, 39g carbs, 16g pro
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1200 - 2nd work break - 30 mins

can of tuna (151 cals, 3g carbs, 33g pro)
2 bags of brown rice (278 cal, 57g carbs, 6g pro)

totals = 429 cals, 60g carbs, 39g pro
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1400 - 3rd work break - 15 mins

no idea what to have here
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1600 - finish work and go to the gym
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1700 - post workout

2 scoops of n-large2 (300 cal, 43g carbs, 26g pro)
1/2 pint of semi-skimmed milk (110 cal, 12g carbs, 8g pro)
1 serving of v12 turbo

totals = 410 cal, 55g carbs, 34g pro
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1800 - dinner

2 grilled chicken breasts (462 cal, 0g carbs, 87g pro)
baked potato (220 cal, 51g carbs, 5g pro)
greens (44 cal, 10g carbs, 4g pro)

totals = 726 cals, 61g carbs, 96g pro
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2100 - evening meal

2 scoops of n-large2 (300 cal, 43g carbs, 26g pro)
1/2 pint of semi-skimmed milk (110 cal, 12g carbs, 8g pro)

totals = 410 cal, 55g carbs, 34g pro
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total calories = 2915

I already think the nlarge might be a bad idea as i dont think i am a hard gainer, might be better off with pure whey but i am no expert. From articles i have read i need at least 3500 calories, maybe 4k would be better though. Thanks for any forthcoming help people, great boards and information by the way, passes my time at work reading up :)

Rob