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kylespitfire
04-06-2007, 10:37 AM
so i got this sweet disk i find out...and its pressing on my sciatic nerve in my left leg so if im up walkin around for like 30 mins i get this haggard pain in my left hamstring//knee that makes me limp....doc says i can get these steroid shots in my back 3x a year thatll numb the pain for maybe 2-4 weeks......i can live with it and do nothing....or i can get surgery but if i get surgery now ill likely have to get it again around like age 40 ....what would you do!

nitrored
04-06-2007, 10:41 AM
so i got this sweet disk i find out...and its pressing on my sciatic nerve in my left leg so if im up walkin around for like 30 mins i get this haggard pain in my left hamstring//knee that makes me limp....doc says i can get these steroid shots in my back 3x a year thatll numb the pain for maybe 2-4 weeks......i can live with it and do nothing....or i can get surgery but if i get surgery now ill likely have to get it again around like age 40 ....what would you do!

First and foremost follow your doctor's advice. If he is giving you options, just way the consequences you will face carefully. Ask yourself how bad is the pain, how dangerous is the surgery, is getting it again years down the road a bad thing, yadayada...

None of us are in YOUR situation, even someone w/ a similar injury is not... this is a dig down soul searching decision.

SDFlip
04-06-2007, 10:46 AM
First and foremost follow your doctor's advice. If he is giving you options, just way the consequences you will face carefully. Ask yourself how bad is the pain, how dangerous is the surgery, is getting it again years down the road a bad thing, yadayada...

None of us are in YOUR situation, even someone w/ a similar injury is not... this is a dig down soul searching decision.
i have the same problem.

can you deal with the pain as it is right now? if you can deal with it for the rest of your life, then i wouldn't get the surgery.

i have talked to many people about the surgery and they either love it and are painfree or they regret doing it and are worse off.

have you tried doing exercises such as planks, supermans, bridges, etc? those have helped me tremendously.

harrisjl
04-06-2007, 10:49 AM
so i got this sweet disk i find out...and its pressing on my sciatic nerve in my left leg so if im up walkin around for like 30 mins i get this haggard pain in my left hamstring//knee that makes me limp....doc says i can get these steroid shots in my back 3x a year thatll numb the pain for maybe 2-4 weeks......i can live with it and do nothing....or i can get surgery but if i get surgery now ill likely have to get it again around like age 40 ....what would you do!

Did you already have an MRI done? I've been dealing with 2 herniated discs (L4, L5) for a year and a half..... I have been taking anti-inflammatory medication the whole time.... I had 2 separate series of 3 shots during the first year.... didn't do the trick for me and I ended up having surgery last October. Feels a lot better but even now I don't feel 100% I have one more perscription to fill and my doc says I should be okay after that....

It really depends on how bad your back/leg pain is.... If it's managable I would try the shots first and see how much that helps.... I got to a point where I couldn't push the clutch in on my car and opted for surgery at that point.... surgery wasn't bad I was only in the hospital over night but I was out of work for 3 months.... I thought I would be back in six weeks but I had some fluid build up that set my recovery back quite a bit....

Good luck with your decision.... sciatica sux....

nitrored
04-06-2007, 10:49 AM
i have the same problem.

can you deal with the pain as it is right now? if you can deal with it for the rest of your life, then i wouldn't get the surgery.

i have talked to many people about the surgery and they either love it and are painfree or they regret doing it and are worse off.

have you tried doing exercises such as planks, supermans, bridges, etc? those have helped me tremendously.

I didnt want my post to come across as others should not share their experiences and thoughts... I just didnt want someone to push their solution on the OP.

Good post.

kylespitfire
04-06-2007, 10:52 AM
Did you already have an MRI done? I've been dealing with 2 herniated discs (L4, L5) for a year and a half..... I have been taking anti-inflammatory medication the whole time.... I had 2 separate series of 3 shots during the first year.... didn't do the trick for me and I ended up having surgery last October. Feels a lot better but even now I don't feel 100% I have one more perscription to fill and my doc says I should be okay after that....

It really depends on how bad your back/leg pain is.... If it's managable I would try the shots first and see how much that helps.... I got to a point where I couldn't push the clutch in on my car and opted for surgery at that point.... surgery wasn't bad I was only in the hospital over night but I was out of work for 3 months.... I thought I would be back in six weeks but I had some fluid build up that set my recovery back quite a bit....

Good luck with your decision.... sciatica sux....ya i got the mri i think we're gunna get a second opinion before we make any decisions....i mean my pain sucks balls i cant bend over at all i have to squat down to pick **** up i used to be able to grab under my tows....i cant walk a block without limping with some ridiculously sharp pains....surgery is the last straw im hoping it wont have to come to that

harrisjl
04-06-2007, 10:53 AM
have you tried doing exercises such as planks, supermans, bridges, etc? those have helped me tremendously.

^ Physcal therapy :D I left that part of it out.... they'll have you doing a lot of core strengthing exercises...

kylespitfire
04-06-2007, 10:54 AM
I didnt want my post to come across as others should not share their experiences and thoughts... I just didnt want someone to push their solution on the OP.

Good post.ya i was just wondering because he kinda made surgery out to look as though it wasnt fail safe...but its like now i cant do alot of **** i want to do... cant play outside because i cant even walk after about 30 mins of standing and i cant do squats or **** in the gym....it just sucks all around

Bushmaster
04-06-2007, 10:55 AM
Have you seen a Chiropractor? I had a herniated disc with sciatica once before and the Chiro took care of it in just a couple of weeks.

Seriously, give that a shot before you let them start cutting on you.

kylespitfire
04-06-2007, 10:55 AM
^ Physcal therapy :D I left that part of it out.... they'll have you doing a lot of core strengthing exercises...ya thats gunna suck balls i feel

SDFlip
04-06-2007, 10:56 AM
I didnt want my post to come across as others should not share their experiences and thoughts... I just didnt want someone to push their solution on the OP.

Good post.
i don't know why i quoted you.....

oziem
04-06-2007, 12:13 PM
correct herniated discs. Look online or pm me and I will help you find a good doc in your area.

Dr. O

Quest4Gold
04-06-2007, 05:16 PM
Definately see a chiro.

oziem
04-06-2007, 06:10 PM
Good advice from the fellas who are pro-chiro

trek_6k
04-06-2007, 07:01 PM
so i got this sweet disk i find out...and its pressing on my sciatic nerve in my left leg so if im up walkin around for like 30 mins i get this haggard pain in my left hamstring//knee that makes me limp....doc says i can get these steroid shots in my back 3x a year thatll numb the pain for maybe 2-4 weeks......i can live with it and do nothing....or i can get surgery but if i get surgery now ill likely have to get it again around like age 40 ....what would you do!

I've had 3 herniated discs since my mid-teens after an accident. I've went through physical therapy numerous times, did the steroid injections, had more prescriptions for muscle relaxers & pain killers than I can remember, and last year I was finally at the major decision on whether to have surgery.

The medication never really seemed worth it... it helped, but only to a slight degree. I figured it was better NOT taking narcotics constantly and dealing with the pain than taking them and seeing little results.

Frankly, the steroid injections did nothing for me. I think I had 4 or 5 of them and saw no results. Shortly after the last one where I had pain shoot down both of my legs during the injection, I saw another specialist (I've been to 4 of them in 7 years).

The one I have now basically broke it down for me... the only thing that was really going to help (and theres risks with it) was surgery. Theres this new thing out now called IDET that he was proposing to me, but told me that at my age, if it was him, he would just deal with the pain. So thats basically what I'm doing... just dealing with the pain. For months I was keeping a journal of everything I did... how I slept, walking, jogging, lifting legs, how long I was sitting, etc. It gave me a decent idea of what really aggravated my back.

So to make a long story short, I'm dealing with the pain. But its your back and your life... you know yourself better than anyone else. Try seeing another doctor and a chiropracter just to give you some more options. And hey, whatever option you choose, good luck.

Horseradish
04-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Good advice from the fellas who are pro-chiro

Agreed 100%.

2 HUGE
04-06-2007, 11:19 PM
wow man thats really serious. this is not a decision u should base on what the majority of the people here believe is right. get a few opinions like u said from professionals and make the best decision for u. forget about bodybuilding right now and what treatment will get u back in the gym the fastest. think about the future... thats whats important. u dont wanna be in a wheel chair by the time ur 25.

i know what its like to have back problems. i strained my back in the summer and it was hell for 2 weeks. i couldnt do anything that involved bending over. since it was only a minor strain it healed up and is fine now, but i know what its like and how pissed off u r right now.

good luck bro, hopefully it all works out

kylespitfire
04-07-2007, 09:36 AM
wow man thats really serious. this is not a decision u should base on what the majority of the people here believe is right. get a few opinions like u said from professionals and make the best decision for u. forget about bodybuilding right now and what treatment will get u back in the gym the fastest. think about the future... thats whats important. u dont wanna be in a wheel chair by the time ur 25.

i know what its like to have back problems. i strained my back in the summer and it was hell for 2 weeks. i couldnt do anything that involved bending over. since it was only a minor strain it healed up and is fine now, but i know what its like and how pissed off u r right now.

good luck bro, hopefully it all works outherniated disks dont prevent you from bodybuilding it just pains my back and leg every day...regardless if im sitting home or lifting doesnt make a difference

2 HUGE
04-07-2007, 10:31 AM
herniated disks dont prevent you from bodybuilding it just pains my back and leg every day...regardless if im sitting home or lifting doesnt make a difference

u can still deadlift and squat with a herniated disk???

Bushmaster
04-09-2007, 05:51 AM
herniated disks dont prevent you from bodybuilding it just pains my back and leg every day...regardless if im sitting home or lifting doesnt make a difference

Lifting will only make it worse.

And no one is trying to peer pressure you into seeing a Chiro but why not use that as an option before you let them operate on you?

Its your back though...

Tyro
04-09-2007, 06:38 AM
One thign and one thing only now, strenghten your core should be your main proirity trust me. There are great articles in t-nation about this and after 3-5 months of hard core (to a limit of course you have a sliped disk) training start working out your lower back i.e hyper extentions. Thats what i am doing now but i am glad mine sonly a major mucle and cartidgle inflamation.

Death-Mobile
04-10-2007, 05:28 PM
Supermans, Bridges, Planks, they are all awsome exercises and have helped me from not being able to get into my car, to where I'm back in the gym and dealing with it. The chiropractor and ultrasound are your friends! I just started doing deadlifts again and they make my back feel ultra strong. You just have to be incredibly concious of your injury and really REALLY focus on your core. Even when I go running now, I flex my abs and back muscles on and off the whole time.
However...the best advice is to do the wimpiest of core exercises, and start from there and slowly move on. It took me 8 weeks of physical therapy and chiropractor visits with lots of ultrasound and EMS to get to where I am now, and even still, it hurts like hell, but I can deal with it and it definitly feels as if it is continually getting better as my core gets stronger.

kylespitfire
04-10-2007, 09:38 PM
ya im just toughing it out the pain comes and goes ill live

Bushmaster
04-11-2007, 05:33 AM
ya im just toughing it out the pain comes and goes ill live

Why? :confused:

You come on here asking for advice and in return got it from some of us who have had the same thing before, but in the end you just decide to "tough it out??" :confused:

kylespitfire
04-11-2007, 09:32 AM
Why? :confused:

You come on here asking for advice and in return got it from some of us who have had the same thing before, but in the end you just decide to "tough it out??" :confused:orignally i was thinking the pain could never go away and i should get the roid shots but it seems they prolly wont even work and i can strengthen my core by myself so other than surgery i dont have many choices

Bushmaster
04-11-2007, 09:44 AM
orignally i was thinking the pain could never go away and i should get the roid shots but it seems they prolly wont even work and i can strengthen my core by myself so other than surgery i dont have many choices

Tried the Chiro?

I'm telling you dude, at least TRY it before you write it off. There's no need to suffer or try to tough anything out at all.

And strengthening you core isn't going to help you if you have an injury or something out of place in your spine. All you'll end up doing is making it worse. Fix the problem and THEN strengthen your core.

Scandalousmrt
04-11-2007, 06:51 PM
I had that same injury last summer except it was my right leg. I was sixteen when it happened so I'll have to deal with it for life. The steroid shots you mentioned did nothing for me so I ended up having surgery. The doctor did a micro-discectomy which means he removed the part of the disc pushing on the nerve. It was the best thing that happened to me last year.
I'm not sure what surgery you doctor is taling about, but if its fusing the disc find someone else.
BTW what disc is it?

Bushmaster
04-12-2007, 05:37 AM
I had that same injury last summer except it was my right leg. I was sixteen when it happened so I'll have to deal with it for life.

Why? :confused:

SDFlip
04-12-2007, 09:09 AM
Why? :confused:

You come on here asking for advice and in return got it from some of us who have had the same thing before, but in the end you just decide to "tough it out??" :confused:


Why? :confused:

because the surgery isn't 100% and it could possibly make the situation worse.

Bushmaster
04-12-2007, 12:50 PM
No, what I want to know is why he won't even consider seeing a Chiropractor. Why the hell would anybody "tough it out" before exploring all the available options??? That doesn't make any sense.. :confused:

Scandalousmrt
04-12-2007, 03:00 PM
If you were talking to me I did go to a chiropractor. I had even thing possible done before surgery. The only thing that worked at all was surgery.

kylespitfire:
The pain doesn't just go away. The disc you injured doesn't really heal on its own.

pulary
04-22-2007, 09:44 PM
Wow, that really sucks. I was in the same boat. I was 24 with 2 herniated and degen discs at the L4-L5-S1. I was in so much pain that I could barely walk for long periods of time. I would have to sit and or lay down, getting the pressure off my lower back. I had surgery in August of 2004 and it was prob the best thing I ever did. I had a dynesys device put in my lower back. Sounds scary but it is a lot better then a fusion. I still have some ROM and occasionally have some back pain(weather change and such).

Here are a couple of suggestions based on my experiences: Find a doctor who specializes in the treatment of the spine and back. Listen to your doctor, and perform research on the options he sees as being realistic. I do not recommend a spinal fusion for anyone. The surgery is not that bad, but the thing that hurts is when the take the bone graft from your hip.

On other note there has been so much research done for finding other solutions to help people with back problems. My doctor, who has conducted studies for the FDA, was telling me about one in which a polymer is injected into your back. They are doing disc nucleus replacement and so many fasicinating other things.

Whatever you decide to do, make sure your are fully aware of the procedure and research other options.

Best of luck.

pHEnomIC
04-22-2007, 10:05 PM
Sometimes hernias don't need surgery, not sure how bad yours is.

Id try all your options before surgery.

Im guessing the steroid shot they are recommending for you is cortisone... Give that a shot... maybe it will cure you permanentally. I had some terrible wrist problems, it helped out a lot. Hurt like hell a couple days then was 98% better.

kylespitfire
04-22-2007, 10:20 PM
ya supposedly the doctor says i get 3 shots each 2 weeks apart and in that time the swelling is brought down and could give the back a chance to heal

Neck Harness LancerV
04-22-2007, 10:40 PM
Try doing one leg birddogs for right now, until you can progress in them to opposite arm, opposite leg

Also could try McGill Up's, and I wouldnt get a spinal fusion at 19.

Wilde
04-23-2007, 04:17 AM
I had the same problem and had the surgery at 21, people have told me I should have seen a chiro but in my case in the amount of pain i was in I doubt a chiro could have helped. But yeah the nerve pain in my leg is gone the only way the nerve gets pinched is when i bend my neck forward while my back is also bent forward but really who does that? just look up when your tying your shoes lol, But yeah my back and shoulders have always been dodgy ever since i was a kid i'm seeing a chiro now who says i have s****osis and shes working on straightening everything up.