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SilverSpork
03-19-2007, 07:53 PM
I've always heard that you should consume 2g of protien/lb of bodyweight. In my lifting career, I have consumed usually 180-210 grams/day. I am wondering if I could see more gains if I ate 2x my bodyweight, 430g/day. That seems like a ****load though. Could I get 100g from whey and water alone, or would that screw with my liver?

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:02 PM
2g/lb of bodyweight is in the most extreme cases, and its the ABSOLUTE most you should EVER consume, except if your on anabolic substances, which I am assuming you are not on.

You should get in about 1.5g/lb.
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you weigh 215 lbs.
215 x 1.5 = 322.5g proteins.

322.5 / 6 = 53.75g per meal.

Or

322.5 / 8 = 40.3g proteins per meal.
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To answer your question, yes. Its possible. Is it necessary, no. I suggest that you consume 322.5g protein MAX. You don't want your kidneys to suffer, and pay the consequences.

What is your nutrition plan like?
This could be the simple answer to solving your problem instead of drastically increasing protein to such a high degree.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:03 PM
Then again, even 1.5g proteins per pound of bodyweight is a little extreme.

Richie_Awesome
03-19-2007, 08:04 PM
A lot of studies I've read show little to no difference between 1g per lbs and 2 g per lbs.

mofolife1
03-19-2007, 08:05 PM
I believe 2g/lb of bodyweight is for steroid users. You dont need that much. You can up it to 1.5 if you want. No matter how much protein you take in there is only a certain amount of muscle you can gain a week.

Probably around 1/4 to 1/2 lbs of muscle a week.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:05 PM
Yea, well guess what, a lot of studies also say that you only need about 12% protein intake based on caloric needs. Thats way too low, especially for the bodybuilder.

Richie_Awesome
03-19-2007, 08:06 PM
btw, that was for bodybuilders, not sedentary people.

Try to have the higher protein days on workout days.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:07 PM
A lot of studies also confirm that 1g/kg is only necessary. This I also disagree with, but hey, its whats being reccomended.

Richie_Awesome
03-19-2007, 08:08 PM
Yea, well guess what, a lot of studies also say that you only need about 12% protein intake based on caloric needs. Thats way too low, especially for the bodybuilder.

Really, could you give me a link please?

I've never read a study that told active weight lifters to consume that low of protein.

MP11
03-19-2007, 08:09 PM
I know a few people who get 2/g and they seem to be fine. Either way, there have been studies that say everything about protien (2/g is fine, only 50g a day, etc)so its up to you but I think as long as you drink water you should be fine.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:10 PM
btw, that was for bodybuilders, not sedentary people.

Try to have the higher protein days on workout days.

Yout correct on that account that a lot of studies are done on sedentary people, HOWEVER studies have been done, which say that even hard training athletes need no more than this. I am not agreeing with them, I am just saying.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:11 PM
MP11 is correct on that there are several studies done both ways.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:56 PM
McGovern Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs.

Proteins: 12%.
Carbs: 58%.
Fats: 30%.
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http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/site/pdf/JISSN-3-1-7-27-06.pdf
(1.2g/kg for the bodybuilder) "overestimation of needed protein."

http://www.springerlink.com/content/ucmb1x8e7135b6v3/
(1.57g/kg for positive nitrogen balance in adolesence)

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Protein.htm
(1.7-1.8g/kg to experience growth in muscle mass in hard training athletes).

http://www.medicdirectsport.com/athletictraining/default.asp?step=4&pid=440
(often recommended that athletes should consume as much as 1.2-1.8 g of protein/kg/day).

http://www.espn.go.com/trainingroom/s/1999/1104/151285.html

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 08:57 PM
I beleive thats more than one.

Richie_Awesome
03-19-2007, 09:55 PM
McGovern Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs.

Proteins: 12%.
Carbs: 58%.
Fats: 30%.
__________________________________________________ _

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/site/pdf/JISSN-3-1-7-27-06.pdf
(1.2g/kg for the bodybuilder) "overestimation of needed protein."

http://www.springerlink.com/content/ucmb1x8e7135b6v3/
(1.57g/kg for positive nitrogen balance in adolesence)

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Protein.htm
(1.7-1.8g/kg to experience growth in muscle mass in hard training athletes).

http://www.medicdirectsport.com/athletictraining/default.asp?step=4&pid=440
(often recommended that athletes should consume as much as 1.2-1.8 g of protein/kg/day).

http://www.espn.go.com/trainingroom/s/1999/1104/151285.html

Thanks man for coming through with that.

I can't believe they advocate such low protein amounts. I'll rep you tomorrow for being helpful.

24/7 Study
03-19-2007, 10:31 PM
No problem. Thanks btw.