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Procta
01-04-2019, 06:42 AM
GOP Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/term-limits-ted-cruz-proposal/index.html

Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and Republican Rep. Francis Rooney proposed a Constitutional amendment on Thursday that would impose term limits on members of both houses of Congress.

The amendment, co-sponsored by Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), and David Perdue (R-Ga.), would restrict senators to two six-year terms and House members to three two-year terms. A similar amendment was proposed by Cruz in January of 2017.
"For too long, members of Congress have abused their power and ignored the will of the American people," Cruz said. "Term limits on members of Congress offer a solution to the brokenness we see in Washington, D.C. It is long past time for Congress to hold itself accountable. I urge my colleagues to submit this constitutional amendment to the states for speedy ratification."
The concept of term limits has gained traction in both parties -- notably, former Democratic Rep. Beto O'Rourke, a potential 2020 hopeful who ran against Cruz for the Senate, has called for term limits for Congress earlier this year.
President Donald Trump has voiced his support for term-limits for members of Congress, tweeting in April of last year that he met with a bipartisan group of lawmakers and he endorsed their efforts.
CORRECTION: The headline of this story has been corrected to reflect Francis Rooney is a representative.

https://www.newsweek.com/sen-ted-cruz-rep-francis-rooney-introduce-constitutional-amendment-imposing-1279070

Retoaded
01-04-2019, 06:44 AM
The first sane thing I've heard out of Washington in a very long time.

Iczer
01-04-2019, 06:45 AM
GOP Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/term-limits-ted-cruz-proposal/index.html

Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and Republican Rep. Francis Rooney proposed a Constitutional amendment on Thursday that would impose term limits on members of both houses of Congress.

The amendment, co-sponsored by Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), and David Perdue (R-Ga.), would restrict senators to two six-year terms and House members to three two-year terms. A similar amendment was proposed by Cruz in January of 2017.
"For too long, members of Congress have abused their power and ignored the will of the American people," Cruz said. "Term limits on members of Congress offer a solution to the brokenness we see in Washington, D.C. It is long past time for Congress to hold itself accountable. I urge my colleagues to submit this constitutional amendment to the states for speedy ratification."
The concept of term limits has gained traction in both parties -- notably, former Democratic Rep. Beto O'Rourke, a potential 2020 hopeful who ran against Cruz for the Senate, has called for term limits for Congress earlier this year.
President Donald Trump has voiced his support for term-limits for members of Congress, tweeting in April of last year that he met with a bipartisan group of lawmakers and he endorsed their efforts.
CORRECTION: The headline of this story has been corrected to reflect Francis Rooney is a representative.

https://www.newsweek.com/sen-ted-cruz-rep-francis-rooney-introduce-constitutional-amendment-imposing-1279070

So this has to be voted on by the very people it's trying to get rid of?

Mercworx
01-04-2019, 06:45 AM
Why did they introduce this now? When the Dems will shoot it down???

Dave22reborn
01-04-2019, 06:51 AM
This will never pass.

AriGhold
01-04-2019, 06:53 AM
This will never pass.

You never know. Still a great idea

Retoaded
01-04-2019, 06:58 AM
You never know. Still a great idea

I would think all sides of the political aisle would like this idea. It solves so many problems.

|ceman
01-04-2019, 07:03 AM
So Cruz believes in this two term limit so strongly that he will not seek a third term once his current second term is concluded?


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Mortar34
01-04-2019, 07:07 AM
I would think all sides of the political aisle would like this idea. It solves so many problems.

Both sides of the aisle from those that are governed, yes. From those that do the governing, that make a career out of public office, that spend 75% of their time campaigning and worrying about how to get more funding from their own party, all at the expense of representing their constituents...no.

Politics was never meant to be a career choice. This is a great idea that I agree will never pass.

Steve707
01-04-2019, 07:09 AM
So Cruz believes in this two term limit so strongly that he will not seek a third term once his current second term is concluded?


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Probably not, but might be hoping for dat dere supreme court nomination.

Dave22reborn
01-04-2019, 07:09 AM
You never know. Still a great idea

It's a great idea, but it won't pass. Why would incumbent senators/congressmen vote to reduce their power?

Dan_S
01-04-2019, 07:14 AM
So this has to be voted on by the very people it's trying to get rid of?

Yep. Which is why term limits will likely never be a thing.

I guess it's a good virtue signal by a few Senators though.

SaltyDog920
01-04-2019, 07:22 AM
Why did they introduce this now? When the Dems will shoot it down???

This. They've had full power for 2 years and only now this bill is introduced? With the balancing of power that recently occurred, passage went from a 1% success rate to a 0%. It's just political grandstanding done by Cruz.

chaunce54
01-04-2019, 08:11 AM
This. They've had full power for 2 years and only now this bill is introduced? With the balancing of power that recently occurred, passage went from a 1% success rate to a 0%. It's just political grandstanding done by Cruz.

A similar amendment was proposed by Cruz in January of 2017...


GOP Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/term-limits-ted-cruz-proposal/index.html

Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and Republican Rep. Francis Rooney proposed a Constitutional amendment on Thursday that would impose term limits on members of both houses of Congress.

The amendment, co-sponsored by Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), and David Perdue (R-Ga.), would restrict senators to two six-year terms and House members to three two-year terms. A similar amendment was proposed by Cruz in January of 2017.
"For too long, members of Congress have abused their power and ignored the will of the American people," Cruz said. "Term limits on members of Congress offer a solution to the brokenness we see in Washington, D.C. It is long past time for Congress to hold itself accountable. I urge my colleagues to submit this constitutional amendment to the states for speedy ratification."
The concept of term limits has gained traction in both parties -- notably, former Democratic Rep. Beto O'Rourke, a potential 2020 hopeful who ran against Cruz for the Senate, has called for term limits for Congress earlier this year.
President Donald Trump has voiced his support for term-limits for members of Congress, tweeting in April of last year that he met with a bipartisan group of lawmakers and he endorsed their efforts.
CORRECTION: The headline of this story has been corrected to reflect Francis Rooney is a representative.

https://www.newsweek.com/sen-ted-cruz-rep-francis-rooney-introduce-constitutional-amendment-imposing-1279070

RIKTER
01-04-2019, 11:19 AM
We already have term limits in place...its called, our current LEGAL immigration system.

Cruz knows he has zero shot of winning next time around. He lost 200K votes from 2012-2018 while the D picked up about 900K votes in that same time.

Dave22reborn
01-04-2019, 11:35 AM
We already have term limits in place...its called, our current LEGAL immigration system.

Cruz knows he has zero shot of winning next time around. He lost 200K votes from 2012-2018 while the D picked up about 900K votes in that same time.

He'd win again.

wesleysh21
01-04-2019, 11:49 AM
Both sides of the aisle from those that are governed, yes. From those that do the governing, that make a career out of public office, that spend 75% of their time campaigning and worrying about how to get more funding from their own party, all at the expense of representing their constituents...no.

Politics was never meant to be a career choice. This is a great idea that I agree will never pass.

What exactly do you think people in congress are going to do in their lame duck term?

Jayarbie
01-04-2019, 12:06 PM
I would think all sides of the political aisle would like this idea. It solves so many problems.Actually, I think it would be opposed by both sides of the aisle, despite being a great idea and long overdue. Look at how many Congressmen (from either party) would immediately be term limited if it were passed. There are your no votes. If they ever do this, it would have to be with a grandfather clause in order to pass.

Retoaded
01-04-2019, 12:09 PM
Actually, I think it would be opposed by both sides of the aisle, despite being a great idea and long overdue. Look at how many Congressmen (from either party) would immediately be term limited if it were passed. There are your no votes. If they ever do this, it would have to be with a grandfather clause in order to pass.

ha. yeah I meant by the public. I know sure as chit it would never pass.

Mortar34
01-04-2019, 12:11 PM
What exactly do you think people in congress are going to do in their lame duck term?

For starters, about 50-75% more work than they did previously as they won't need to campaign or raise funds for their colleagues.

The big win for the public is that they are no longer beholden to fund raising, nor their party, allowing them to govern for their voters instead of the latter. I don't think it would make thieves into honorable men, but it would stop some thieves from ever seeking office, and we've seen that some senators and reps will actually take the gloves off on their way out the door, albeit a small few.

Cchrisrun
01-04-2019, 12:13 PM
Asking for people in power to limit said power. Great idea, and never happening.

BigFattyDaddy2
01-04-2019, 12:16 PM
This. They've had full power for 2 years and only now this bill is introduced? With the balancing of power that recently occurred, passage went from a 1% success rate to a 0%. It's just political grandstanding done by Cruz.

Does anybody here know about amending the constitution? The Republicans did not have 2/3 majority of both houses.

http://theconstitutionscharenbrock6.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/8/2/13820725/670653896.jpg

chaunce54
01-05-2019, 05:07 AM
Does anybody here know about amending the constitution? The Republicans did not have 2/3 majority of both houses.

http://theconstitutionscharenbrock6.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/8/2/13820725/670653896.jpg

In today's partisan world, it seems highly unlikely we will have any changes to the Constitution any time soon.

The globalists are winning the war by keeping us divided.

Mercworx
01-05-2019, 05:19 AM
In today's partisan world, it seems highly unlikely we will have any changes to the Constitution any time soon.

The globalists are winning the war by keeping us divided.

At least there is som eprotection in the status quo. I don't want the Dems to be able to ratify ****.

chaunce54
01-05-2019, 05:24 AM
At least there is som eprotection in the status quo. I don't want the Dems to be able to ratify ****.

This is true, but that partisanship is also often keeping them from passing normal legislation that could be helping American citizens.

sawoobley
01-05-2019, 05:24 AM
So Cruz believes in this two term limit so strongly that he will not seek a third term once his current second term is concluded?


https://media.giphy.com/media/pzarRhPZKvjOg/giphy.gif

He will not seek a third term for that reason. ;)

BadMonkeyFunker
01-05-2019, 10:12 AM
LMFAO... idiots ITT

cruz the cuck is working for lobbyists. They have been looking to limit the terms for a while now. It's easier and cheaper to buy/influence the freshman class than the seniors.

LOL@ any idiot thinking this slime ball is actually doing the right thing for the right reasons.....

RIKTER
01-05-2019, 11:55 AM
He'd win again.

The changing demographics disagree. Should be an easy million latinos becoming voting age by the time he's up for election again.

LeJR
01-05-2019, 11:57 AM
bernie sanders has to resort to pimping out his wife for a living then ?

LeJR
01-05-2019, 11:59 AM
Does anybody here know about amending the constitution? The Republicans did not have 2/3 majority of both houses.

http://theconstitutionscharenbrock6.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/8/2/13820725/670653896.jpg

i am actually not for opening up the constitution at all. There's a reason why it was made so difficult. We don't want a people trading special interests to pass constitutional amendments.

VegasLifter26
01-05-2019, 12:13 PM
great idea...however the people should vote on this

LukeLissen
01-05-2019, 12:20 PM
There should only be term limits for socialists, communists, fascists, and other Democratic Party members.

Republicans and other normal Americans should be able to serve for life.

Shortfuze
01-05-2019, 12:42 PM
I say impose term limits and get rid pf pensions for politicians. Career politicians should not be tolerated or acceptable in a democracy.

tk217
01-05-2019, 06:54 PM
A good bill.

Streetbull
01-06-2019, 05:12 AM
In today's partisan world, it seems highly unlikely we will have any changes to the Constitution any time soon.

The globalists are winning the war by keeping us divided.

Maxine Waters has waited for decades to destroy the financial system. She’s finally in a position to do so. It’s like the town’s trash citizens now hold sway over the local bank.

Nancy Pelosi thinks Donald is out to eliminate Congress (she has publicly said so) so her goal is to destroy the Republican Party, for letting him become POTUS.

These people see term limits as some evil conspiracy by white males.

Dave22reborn
01-06-2019, 10:32 AM
A good bill.

That's why it won't pass.

Haste007
01-06-2019, 12:13 PM
Trump should be able to enact a public vote on this and other main issues such as congress salary increases that are clear conflicts of interest with congress currently voting on it.

|ceman
01-06-2019, 12:41 PM
There should only be term limits for socialists, communists, fascists, and other Democratic Party members.

Republicans and other normal Americans should be able to serve for life. don't worry, Trump and his kids will be serving life terms without opportunities for parole.

tk217
01-06-2019, 12:57 PM
That's why it won't pass.

Sadly the established corruption is very powerful. True.

KyleAaron
01-06-2019, 01:02 PM
They've had full power for 2 years and only now this bill is introduced?
Maybe they looked at their new colleagues and decided they wanted their time with them to be limited.

KyleAaron
01-06-2019, 01:05 PM
Trump should be able to enact a public vote on this and other main issues such as congress salary increases that are clear conflicts of interest with congress currently voting on it.
The people can bypass Congress and call their own constitutional convention. There's one waiting to be held, 12 states have said you should hold it, you need 22 more to pass it and have a convention. You could even dissolve the Union if you wanted to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_Sta tes_Constitution

vickissick07
01-06-2019, 01:14 PM
don't worry, Trump and his kids will be serving life terms without opportunities for parole.

You might be a legit retard if you actually believe this.

Haste007
01-06-2019, 01:54 PM
The people can bypass Congress and call their own constitutional convention. There's one waiting to be held, 12 states have said you should hold it, you need 22 more to pass it and have a convention. You could even dissolve the Union if you wanted to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_Sta tes_Constitution



Interesting that it has not been done to date. Surprised the state governments have not gotten on board with it as it would give them (and those individuals) more power.

MoeBettuh
01-06-2019, 08:26 PM
I say impose term limits and get rid pf pensions for politicians. Career politicians should not be tolerated or acceptable in a democracy.


This for sure.