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Highwind7
09-15-2018, 01:00 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/11/soviet-labour-camps-compassionate-educational-institutions-say/


Students at a leading London university have been condemned as blind to reality after defending the system of Soviet Gulag labour camps where thousands perished as “compassionate” places of rehabilitation.

Trans rights campaigners at Goldsmiths University described the Gulags as benign places where inmates received education, training and enjoyed the opportunity to take part in clubs, sports and theatre groups.

In fact most historians agree they were a brutal network of labour camps used by Stalin’s Soviet dictatorship to incarcerate internal opponents and so-called "enemies of the state", resulting in the death of more than an estimated 1.05 million people.

During a bizarre exchange on Twitter the LGBTQ group at Goldsmiths Student Union described life in the Gulags as “rehabilitatory” and “educational”.

Paradoxically the thread was written as an apparent justification for an earlier post by the same group which threatened to send a political opponent “to the gulag”.

The threat was made against Claire Graham, a special education needs teacher, who wrote objecting to LGBTQ Goldsmith’s threat to target feminist academics who they claimed were prejudiced against transgender individuals.

Tans activists refer to these women by the derogatory term TERFS, claiming they are guilty of hate crimes for their opposition to allowing men undergoing gender transition to use women’s toilets and other female only spaces.

In its Tweets, Goldsmith LGBTQ said: “The ideas of TERFS and anti-trans bigots literally *kill* and must be eradicated through re-education.”

Ms Graham said: “I said that I thought their choice of language, in talking about lists and purging people was intended to shut down debate about trans people and the law. I then received unpleasant and dehumanising threats about being sent to the Gulag. I feel bad for other trans people because this kind of response by some makes them seem so extreme and intolerant.”

Goldsmith LGBTQ subsequently attempted to justify the threat to send Ms Graham to the Gulag by stating that “sending a bigot to one is actually a compassionate, non-violent course of action.”



The Twitter thread went on to state that the CIA had spread “lies” about the Gulag system, adding: “First myth to debunk: ‘u work until u die in gulags!’ The Soviets did away with life sentences and the longest sentence was 10 years. Capital punishment was reserved for the most heinous, serious crimes.

“The penal system was a rehabilitatory one. The aim was to correct and change the ways of criminals.”

It added: “Much like wider Soviet society, everyone who was ‘able’ to work did so at a wage proportionate to those who weren’t incapacitated and, as they gained skills, were able to move up the ranks and work under less supervision.

“Educational work was also a prominent feature of the Soviet penal system. There were regular classes, book clubs, newspaper editorial teams, sports theatre and performance groups.”

In contrast, mainstream historians have concluded that the gulag system, which reached its peak under Joseph Stalin's rule, was a system of forced labour camps used to incarcerate a wide range of convicts, from petty criminals to political prisoners - including Stalin’s left-wing, Trotskyist opponents and gay men and women.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature, who survived eight years imprisoned in a Gulag incarceration, brought its horrors to the world's attention in his 1973 book The Gulag Archipelago.

Soviet files show that 1,053,829 people died in the camps between 1934 and 1953, mostly as a result of deliberate starvation.

The historian Anne Applebaum, author of Gulag: A History, said: “It was an incredibly brutal system designed to eliminate Stalin's’ enemies and terrorise the wider population. Most of the inmates were innocent of anything we would regard as a crime.”

Ms Graham said: “The LGBTQ group’s interpretation of the history of the Gulag system is madness.”

Goldsmiths Students’ Union has now suspended the group and withdrawn its support for its activities, saying the Gulag threat - and subsequent refusal by the group to apologise for it - clearly breached the students' union code of conduct.

In a statement backed by Goldsmiths University the students’ union said: “We condemn the abhorrent content of the tweets and they are in complete opposition to the views and values of the Students’ Union.”

Members of Goldsmiths LGBTQ refused to comment when approached by The Daily Telegraph.

Murrmanski
09-15-2018, 01:41 AM
YAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ queen SLAYY

Mercworx
09-15-2018, 01:47 AM
I almost wonder if they are just trolling. Or not so much trolling but trying to appear radical just for the sake of it.


You can’t be this fukin stupid can you? Why don’t they talk to the thousands of survivors.

Highwind7
09-15-2018, 01:51 AM
I almost wonder if they are just trolling. Or not so much trolling but trying to appear radical just for the sake of it.


You can’t be this fukin stupid can you? Why don’t they talk to the thousands of survivors.

https://i.imgur.com/62t6dFm.jpg

MisterJustice
09-15-2018, 02:08 AM
Wonder if that creature would say that once it had read The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

gwem32170191
09-15-2018, 02:09 AM
Of all of the of the universes I could have been born into, I get this one instead of the one with super heroes? Fukk this gay universe.

HaiMeesk
09-15-2018, 02:45 AM
I'm actually shocked that they were condemned for this and not praised. I'm also surprised Soltzhenitzyn's name was mentioned, considering some of the things he's said about certain tribes.

InB4 Amazon bans Solzhenitzyn.

EmmaW4tson
09-15-2018, 03:02 AM
I almost wonder if they are just trolling. Or not so much trolling but trying to appear radical just for the sake of it.


You can’t be this fukin stupid can you? Why don’t they talk to the thousands of survivors.

The survivors are old or dead. Nobody cares what they have to say.

Mike86er
09-15-2018, 06:40 AM
Goldsmiths is not what anybody would call a "leading London university" as the article does. It's always been known as an SJW holding pen along with SOAS, even before this era and even in comparison to other universities. SOAS has fairly high academic standards but Goldsmiths does not. My cat could have gotten into there.

Now consider that the Goldsmiths Student Union has suspended the group for their comments. Should should serve to illutrsation just how bat sh*t crazy the group is.

bigcat3655
09-15-2018, 08:22 AM
Anyone else find it extremely ironic that this is coming from a group who certainly would have been sent there?

jlick
09-15-2018, 08:42 AM
that trans person probably wants to throw anyone right of far left into a gulag.

QuickNutkus
09-15-2018, 09:59 AM
Goldsmith's

tk217
09-15-2018, 10:45 AM
What the ****.

tk217
09-15-2018, 10:46 AM
Anyone else find it extremely ironic that this is coming from a group who certainly would have been sent there?

Let us be real here.

They'd of been drawn and quartered long before they had the opportunity to go to the gulags.

leafs43
09-15-2018, 10:46 AM
The irony is is that these people were exactly who were thrown in the gulags.

Travis99
09-15-2018, 10:51 AM
The irony is is that these people were exactly who were thrown in the gulags.

Exactly right.


You know the Gulags were real because the horrors of soviet russia are talked and written about in books and speeches that have no political ties and were written decades ago.

Peter Ruby
09-15-2018, 11:15 AM
Of all of the of the universes I could have been born into, I get this one instead of the one with super heroes? Fukk this gay universe.

I often think the same thing. Perhaps we were really bad people in a previous life and this is our punishment.

EmmaW4tson
09-15-2018, 11:34 AM
Goldsmith's

(((Goldsmiths)))

Peter Ruby
09-15-2018, 11:52 AM
(((Goldsmiths)))

That's it, I'm reporting you for hate speech. Bad goyim!!

jbball92
09-15-2018, 01:14 PM
Wow very anti Semitic

SiberianStrike
09-15-2018, 02:07 PM
Yeah compassionate and educational


brb being sent to work in mines in locations with crazy cold winters(-40c), while not having adequate conditions and medical help. A family whose male relatives were killed during WW2, mother tries to survive by exchanging goods(like small pieces of tobacco for food) and being sent to prison while her kids are separated and sent to horrible orphanages. This was a pretty common occurrence in the villages.


Fukking clueless phaggots





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https://i.imgur.com/yoX55YM.jpg


And tell all those phaggots that being ghey was a criminal offense during Soviet rule. And "transformers" were unheard off.

Ilovemygf
09-15-2018, 02:24 PM
Maybe they were, some time in a gulag would definitely educate and rehabilitate these lunatics