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fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 05:37 AM
Like the above says should I keep cutting or lean bulk, according to the calliper test I'm around 10-11% BF.

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Mikeez0
03-13-2018, 06:36 AM
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fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 07:11 AM
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Gym God
03-13-2018, 07:12 AM
You're doing well, OP. However, with summer around the corner, I would continue cutting just a little more.

AdamWW
03-13-2018, 07:30 AM
depends if you want to be leaner or not.... obviously...

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 07:32 AM
depends if you want to be leaner or not.... obviously...

Yes obviously but just trying to get other peoples opinion.

AdamWW
03-13-2018, 07:39 AM
Yes obviously but just trying to get other peoples opinion.

gotcha. What are your stats, both in terms of strength as well as height/weight?

My personal feeling is that you look good, so from an appearance point of view if I were you and I hadn't 'topped out' on my strength and size potential - or gotten close to it - I'd 100% keep bulking/adding strength.

However, if you've stalled for a while or have been lifting on a solid program for years and years, then you could certainly 'lean out' if you felt like it.

It also depends on how you feel when leaner, too... you've got abs, and it's not like being leaner is going to help your health any...

So here's my feelings:

Option 1 (Assumes you've 'topped out' gains as I mentioned above and feel 'OK' when a bit leaner): Cut for 1-2 months or so, losing a few % bodyfat

Option 2 (You haven't yet 'topped out' gains): maintain a modest surplus and continue gaining size... you look good already so there's no rush, and you won't waste time not gaining more size/wasting time as a result.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 07:46 AM
gotcha. What are your stats, both in terms of strength as well as height/weight?

My personal feeling is that you look good, so from an appearance point of view if I were you and I hadn't 'topped out' on my strength and size potential - or gotten close to it - I'd 100% keep bulking/adding strength.

However, if you've stalled for a while or have been lifting on a solid program for years and years, then you could certainly 'lean out' if you felt like it.

It also depends on how you feel when leaner, too... you've got abs, and it's not like being leaner is going to help your health any...

So here's my feelings:

Option 1 (Assumes you've 'topped out' gains as I mentioned above and feel 'OK' when a bit leaner): Cut for 1-2 months or so, losing a few % bodyfat

Option 2 (You haven't yet 'topped out' gains): maintain a modest surplus and continue gaining size... you look good already so there's no rush, and you won't waste time not gaining more size/wasting time as a result.

I just got done doing a VERY bad bulk, I just ate whatever I want and that did not go well. At the end of the bulk I was at 216 (height is 6'0) and my starting weight was 196, I'm currently weighing 204 lbs (been cutting a couple of months) and stronger than when I was at 196.

I really dont test my 1rep max but my current lifts are Squat: 285 3 sets of 3 / Bench Press: 270 3 sets of 3 / Deadlift: 405 1 Rep Max / OHP: 170 3 sets of 3.

AdamWW
03-13-2018, 07:53 AM
I just got done doing a VERY bad bulk, I just ate whatever I want and that did not go well. At the end of the bulk I was at 216 (height is 6'0) and my starting weight was 196, I'm currently weighing 204 lbs (been cutting a couple of months) and stronger than when I was at 196.

I really dont test my 1rep max but my current lifts are Squat: 285 3 sets of 3 / Bench Press: 270 3 sets of 3 / Deadlift: 405 1 Rep Max / OHP: 170 3 sets of 3.

Ah I see.

Well by looking at you, my personal stance is that you're more likely closer to a 'true' 15%, which would mean roughly 170lb of lean bodyweight, which for a 6-footer (like you and me) is a very strong lean base.

So, even though your lifting stats aren't super duper high, it does seem like you have a strong base to work with and you'd likely look very detailed after losing something like 10-15 more pounds.

I guess it's kind of hard to say...

Based on that info, i'd assess like this:

- If you care about strength progress, I'd recommend just bulking and building more of that instead of cutting
- If you would prefer more 'aesthetics', i'd cut to about 185-190 because at that weight you'd be very defined and could then begin bulking on a solid progression scheme

livindagym
03-13-2018, 07:56 AM
Look more like 15ish % bf to me. Id go on and cut more for summer then lean bulk

d2mini
03-13-2018, 08:40 AM
I agree with the others that there is no way you are 10-11%.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 09:06 AM
I agree with the others that there is no way you are 10-11%.

Yes, I agree. I think I'm more in the 12% range than 15% though.

gbullock32
03-13-2018, 09:15 AM
Yes, I agree. I think I'm more in the 12% range than 15% though.Honestly I'd hedge closer to 15% as well.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 09:40 AM
Honestly I'd hedge closer to 15% as well.

How much longer to cut to get down to 11% BF?

d2mini
03-13-2018, 10:49 AM
Your Avi looks more like 10-11%.
Just different lighting or where you leaner then?

Heterodox
03-13-2018, 10:54 AM
Look much better in Avi i would personally cut but that's just me.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 11:12 AM
Your Avi looks more like 10-11%.
Just different lighting or where you leaner then?

The AVI pic is about 2 years ago and I weighed 170, I didn't train legs and was a lot weaker than.

I'm thinking if I can get down to 190 I will be around 10-11%

Mrpb
03-13-2018, 12:21 PM
I'd continue cutting for a while, until you get to ~11%.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 12:49 PM
I'd continue cutting for a while, until you get to ~11%.

If I'm at 204 what weight do I need to be at to get to 11%?

Mrpb
03-13-2018, 12:52 PM
If I'm at 204 what weight do I need to be at to get to 11%?

You can do the math. Maybe you're 15% now.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 01:26 PM
You can do the math. Maybe you're 15% now.

If my math is right I need to lose 10lbs, so I need to weigh 194.

gbullock32
03-13-2018, 03:07 PM
If my math is right I need to lose 10lbs, so I need to weigh 194.

A safe bet would be to assume you need to lose 15 pounds total then to account for not all of the weight you lose being fat. Water weight and glycogen can still fluctuate, and other variables come into play too.

fairbjosh
03-13-2018, 03:29 PM
So losing 15lbs will put me at 11%?

gbullock32
03-13-2018, 03:41 PM
So losing 15lbs will put me at 11%?Who can say, stop focusing on getting a direct number, keep cutting until you are happy, however much that ends up being.

Mrpb
03-13-2018, 11:40 PM
So losing 15lbs will put me at 11%?

Maybe. You won't know until you get there.