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Procta
12-05-2017, 07:32 AM
BREAKING: details to come

Special counsel Robert Mueller details $3.2 million in costs for early months of Trump-Russia investigation

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-robert-mueller-details-32-million-costs-51587768




Special counsel Robert Mueller's office spent $3.2 million during the first few months of his investigation into Russian election interference and possible coordination with associates of President Donald Trump.

In addition, the Justice Department has spent $3.5 million to support the investigation, though the special counsel's office says that money would have been spent anyway if Mueller had not been appointed. Mueller incorporated several ongoing investigations within the Justice Department including those of Trump campaign contacts with Russia, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's business activities and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

The details of the expenditures related to Mueller's investigation were laid out in a copy of the report obtained by The Associated Press, which was subsequently released publicly by the special counsel's office. The report covers from May 17, the date of Mueller's appointment, through Sept. 30, the end of the federal fiscal year.

Mueller's office says in the report that about $1.7 million was for salary and benefits, and more than $223,000 was spent on travel-related expenses. Despite the international focus of Mueller's probe, only about $2,800 was spent on actual travel costs. The rest was spent on the relocation of Justice Department employees temporarily assigned to the expanding investigation, the report shows.

So far, the special counsel has charged four people as part of the investigation including Manafort and Flynn.

wesleysh21
12-05-2017, 07:41 AM
That seems like a reasonable cost for a witch hunt. LOL

https://media.giphy.com/media/9IVTJHx7l8HPa/giphy.gif

x-trainer ben
12-05-2017, 07:43 AM
I like mine better.

Breaking:Mueller has subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for information on Trump and his family

Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating President Donald Trump's campaign's ties to Russia, has subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by Trump and his family.
Deutsche Bank has loaned the Trump Organization millions for real-estate ventures.

arn710
12-05-2017, 07:45 AM
Its not as if Liberals are going to care about wasteful spending

See below


Law enforcement and counter-intelligence activities are never a waste of time and money.

Kane_89
12-05-2017, 07:49 AM
Its not as if Liberals are going to care about wasteful spending

See belowWasteful spending according to who? You

arn710
12-05-2017, 07:57 AM
Wasteful spending according to who? You

No law enforcement and counter-intelligence activities are ever a waste of time and money according to you

I assume you're a huge fan of the war on drugs

All of those Hillary email and Benghazi investigations were totally warranted right? Let's redo them for funzies don't you agree?

Kane_89
12-05-2017, 08:03 AM
No law enforcement and counter-intelligence activities are ever a waste of time and money according to you

I assume you're a huge fan of the war on drugs

All of those Hillary email and Benghazi investigations were totally warranted right? Let's redo them for funzies don't you agree?

If Law enforcement says that an investigation is warranted, then it is warranted. No matter what the issue is.

Like I asked in another thread, do you have a problem with going after criminals?

mynameisuntz
12-05-2017, 08:07 AM
If Law enforcement says that an investigation is warranted, then it is warranted. No matter what the issue is.

Like I asked in another thread, do you have a problem with going after criminals?

And so you think the war on drugs is legit? Because law enforcement says so?

arn710
12-05-2017, 08:08 AM
Like I asked in another thread, do you have a problem with going after criminals?

No. I have an issue with investigations generating crimes where there was none before.

Kane_89
12-05-2017, 08:11 AM
And so you think the war on drugs is legit? Because law enforcement says so?I may not halfway agree with the policy, but the law is the law.

Stizzel
12-05-2017, 08:12 AM
If Law enforcement says that an investigation is warranted, then it is warranted. No matter what the issue is.

Like I asked in another thread, do you have a problem with going after criminals?

ITT cuck 89 believes the police are infallible rather than human

Kane_89
12-05-2017, 08:14 AM
lmao, I dare Trump supporters to come in here and sh*t talk LE after all the "law and order" knob-gobbling Trump and his supporters participated in during the campaign.

arn710
12-05-2017, 08:16 AM
lmao, I dare Trump supporters to come in here and sh*t talk LE after all the "law and order" knob-gobbling Trump and his supporters participated in during the campaign.

Or you could just back down from your original statement and agree that some of these investigation are a waste of resources

Its ok to be wrong. Digging your hole deeper just makes you look like a fool

acrawlingchaos
12-05-2017, 08:17 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into Clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.

Stizzel
12-05-2017, 08:19 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into Clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.

No, that wasnt a waste. Its impossible to waste money on investigations.

Procta
12-05-2017, 08:19 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into Clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.

its the same people doing the investigation on both, no?

zinkhan99
12-05-2017, 08:20 AM
If Law enforcement says that an investigation is warranted, then it is warranted. No matter what the issue is.

Like I asked in another thread, do you have a problem with going after criminals?

Going after criminals? If there is no crime then there aren't any criminals.

edit: I am talking about the primary purpose of the investigation, not some petty charges.

mynameisuntz
12-05-2017, 08:21 AM
I may not halfway agree with the policy, but the law is the law.

So when the law enforced the illegality of interracial marriage, or not allowing Black-Americans to sit in the front of the bus..."Law is the law" still? That wasn't a waste of money to enforce?

x-trainer ben
12-05-2017, 08:31 AM
lmao, I dare Trump supporters to come in here and sh*t talk LE after all the "law and order" knob-gobbling Trump and his supporters participated in during the campaign.

Isn't it ironic...doncha think?

Maybe they mean "street cops" and not FBI director to FBI director law enforcement.

Remember when Comey handed the red box to Mueller with a big bow on it after he was fired. Good times. :)

acrawlingchaos
12-05-2017, 08:31 AM
its the same people doing the investigation on both, no?I'm just saying... $82 million you think they would have something to show for it.

I'm sure some of the teams are the same, some are not. Different leads for some. I'd just like to see caps set for these sort of investigations.

rampagefc77
12-05-2017, 08:33 AM
If Law enforcement says that an investigation is warranted, then it is warranted. No matter what the issue is.

Like I asked in another thread, do you have a problem with going after criminals?

Are you for or against illegal immigration? Genuinely curious, seeing as how these people are, by definition, criminals.

rampagefc77
12-05-2017, 08:35 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into Clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.

They plucked some low hanging fruit for things that are largely unrelated to Trump.

How many people in those clinton investigations were given complete immunity for far worse crimes than those that have been tried close to Trump?

If Trump had his own James Comey running the investigation, there would be no charges and the report listing Trump and all associated innocence would already have been penned and read to the country. Think about it...

Griffco
12-05-2017, 08:57 AM
lmao, I dare Trump supporters to come in here and sh*t talk LE after all the "law and order" knob-gobbling Trump and his supporters participated in during the campaign.

Mueller was a private citizen put in charge of an investigation sparked by opposition research paid for by HRC under the order of a vehemently anti-Trump FBI agent who exonerated HRC for multiple crimes.

I think there is a little air between that and the LEOs who go to work every day to keep you safe.

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 09:01 AM
Meanwhile it cost over 100k a day for NYC to guard Trump Tower because the fcking First Lady and Barron can’t be bothered to live at the White House.

arn710
12-05-2017, 09:43 AM
Meanwhile it cost over 100k a day for NYC to guard Trump Tower because the fcking First Lady and Barron can’t be bothered to live at the White House.

That's law enforcement protecting them from criminals

Impossible to overspend

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 09:47 AM
That's law enforcement protecting them from criminals

Impossible to overspend

So you believe that the First Lady being too good to live at the White House costing tax payers 3.2 million in a month (probably less) is Ok?

arn710
12-05-2017, 09:59 AM
So you believe that the First Lady being too good to live at the White House costing tax payers 3.2 million in a month (probably less) is Ok?

Sarcasm is lost on you

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 10:04 AM
Sarcasm is lost on you

It’s not sarcasm if you’re ok with the First Lady costing the US tax payer over 100k a day to not live at the White House while bitching about 3.2 million to investigate a hostile foreign power.

HoganIsGOAT
12-05-2017, 10:06 AM
Over $5 million of taxpayer money spent on a witch hunt that began without any indication that a crime actually took place.

Procta
12-05-2017, 10:11 AM
Over $5 million of taxpayer money spent on a witch hunt that began without any indication that a crime actually took place.

that began under false pretense, possibly illegal unmasking and DNC / Clinton paid dossier

ItsWhatIDo
12-05-2017, 10:15 AM
Pennies compared to wanting 15 billion for a wall that would stop nothing.

seven11
12-05-2017, 10:16 AM
Over $5 million of taxpayer money spent on a witch hunt that began without any indication that a crime actually took place.

Wrong!


§ 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and -

(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and

(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.

So the mere fact that a special counsel has been appointed indicates that probable cause exists.

Godemis
12-05-2017, 10:16 AM
So you care about the cost of the investigation but dont care about Trumps weekly trips to Florida costing several times more? Interesting

arn710
12-05-2017, 10:19 AM
It’s not sarcasm if you’re ok with the First Lady costing the US tax payer over 100k a day to not live at the White House while bitching about 3.2 million to investigate a hostile foreign power.

Clearly you don't understand what sarcasm is.

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 10:26 AM
Clearly you don't understand what sarcasm is.

You don’t. It’s not sarcasm if you agree with both facts. You quoted someone saying something silly as a way to shield against the disgusting waste of the Trump and the First Lady.

So, tell me, which of these two facts do you disagree with?

The quotation you parroted or the 100k+ a day spent on the First Lady not staying at the White House.

ThePoz
12-05-2017, 10:33 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into Clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.

Well she would probably be President right now if no investigation. So theres that.

arn710
12-05-2017, 10:35 AM
You don’t. It’s not sarcasm if you agree with both facts. You quoted someone saying something silly as a way to shield against the disgusting waste of the Trump and the First Lady.

So, tell me, which of these two facts do you disagree with?

The quotation you parroted or the 100k+ a day spent on the First Lady not staying at the White House.

sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
noun: sarcasm; plural noun: sarcasms

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.


I can't believe I have to explain sarcasm to someone that's 34 years old but here we go

Clearly, my first post was mocking a statement by Kane that I originally quoted in this thread. Since it wasn't overtly obvious to you, I reaffirmed that by stating that it was sarcasm. Since I was using it to mock someone, it obvious to everyone with an IQ above that of a jellyfish that I don't agree with the statement

Shocking to me that you're this stupid and manage to use a computer

|ceman
12-05-2017, 10:36 AM
Republicans in Congress spent over $100 million investigating the Clintons so there we are.

These two families are costing the US taxpayers billions!!

https://www.casino.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Trump-Clinton-2005-wedding.jpg

beowulf10
12-05-2017, 10:37 AM
that began under false pretense, possibly illegal unmasking and DNC / Clinton paid dossier

It's important to note that Page, and Manafort kept popping up when the intelligence agencies spied on the Russians BEFORE they became associated with the Trump campaign.

beowulf10
12-05-2017, 10:38 AM
Over $5 million of taxpayer money spent on a witch hunt that began without any indication that a crime actually took place.

This is Trump's fault.

The special prosecutor was appointed AFTER the idiot fired Comey.

wesleysh21
12-05-2017, 10:40 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.


i'm just saying... $82 million you think they would have something to show for it.

I'm sure some of the teams are the same, some are not. Different leads for some. I'd just like to see caps set for these sort of investigations.


meanwhile it cost over 100k a day for nyc to guard trump tower because the fcking first lady and barron can’t be bothered to live at the white house.


so you believe that the first lady being too good to live at the white house costing tax payers 3.2 million in a month (probably less) is ok?


it’s not sarcasm if you’re ok with the first lady costing the us tax payer over 100k a day to not live at the white house while bitching about 3.2 million to investigate a hostile foreign power.


pennies compared to wanting 15 billion for a wall that would stop nothing.


so you care about the cost of the investigation but dont care about trumps weekly trips to florida costing several times more? Interesting


you don’t. It’s not sarcasm if you agree with both facts. You quoted someone saying something silly as a way to shield against the disgusting waste of the trump and the first lady.

So, tell me, which of these two facts do you disagree with?

The quotation you parroted or the 100k+ a day spent on the first lady not staying at the white house.


republicans in congress spent over $100 million investigating the clintons so there we are.

These two families are costing the us taxpayers billions!!

https://www.casino.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/trump-clinton-2005-wedding.jpg

whataboutism !!!

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 10:44 AM
sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
noun: sarcasm; plural noun: sarcasms

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.


I can't believe I have to explain sarcasm to someone that's 34 years old but here we go

Clearly, my first post was mocking a statement by Kane that I originally quoted in this thread. Since it wasn't overtly obvious to you, I reaffirmed that by stating that it was sarcasm. Since I was using it to mock someone, it obvious to everyone with an IQ above that of a jellyfish that I don't agree with the statement

Shocking to me that you're this stupid and manage to use a computer

Ok, so you don’t agree with the statement - and yes - that’s obvious.

Now, on to my point re: “hypocrisy” which should also be equally obvious.

This is a direct question to you. Do you think it’s ok for the First Lady to spend 100K+ a day to not live at the White House?

rampagefc77
12-05-2017, 11:04 AM
This is Trump's fault.

The special prosecutor was appointed AFTER the idiot fired Comey.

Was firing Comey illegal or unconstitutional?

Was Trump even personally under investigation by the FBI when he fired Comey?

Comey knew he would have to say under oath that Trump wasn't personally under investigation, so he leaked some stuff to the media and made up an obstruction of justice claim. THAT opened the door for Mueller, not the firing. The firing had bipartisan support. Comey's answers under oath indicate that he was not fit for office.

Bushmaster
12-05-2017, 11:04 AM
$3.2 million and 4 people charged? I wouldn't call that unsuccessful.

4 investigation into Clinton, $82 million, no charges. That was a waste... Mueller investigation, not so much.

Keep in mind also that part of the reason Clinton was investigated in the first place was because people - including a US Ambassador literally died in Benghazi. Mueller's investigation of Trump... not so much.

arn710
12-05-2017, 11:07 AM
Do you think it’s ok for the First Lady to spend 100K+ a day to not live at the White House?

Generally, no

I was under the impression that this was only temporary until Baron finished the school year. Is that not the case?

Why are we even discussing this? Let's stick to the topic

|ceman
12-05-2017, 11:10 AM
Keep in mind also that part of the reason Clinton was investigated in the first place was because people - including a US Ambassador literally died in Benghazi. Mueller's investigation of Trump... not so much.

how many people died in the Iraq war?

no investigation?

Kane_89
12-05-2017, 11:13 AM
Going after criminals? If there is no crime then there aren't any criminals.

edit: I am talking about the primary purpose of the investigation, not some petty charges.How do you know what their probable cause is?


So when the law enforced the illegality of interracial marriage, or not allowing Black-Americans to sit in the front of the bus..."Law is the law" still? That wasn't a waste of money to enforce?Obviously those laws were fuked, which is why they arent around anymore.

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 11:15 AM
Generally, no

I was under the impression that this was only temporary until Baron finished the school year. Is that not the case?

Why are we even discussing this? Let's stick to the topic

Was that so hard to admit?

And, honestly, if they move into the White House permanently I’ll be shocked.

beowulf10
12-05-2017, 11:25 AM
Was firing Comey illegal or unconstitutional?

Was Trump even personally under investigation by the FBI when he fired Comey?

I don't think it matters that nobody knew at the time that the firing of Comey was legal or not.

Trump's actions were suspicious. And Trump's suspicious actions made it politically necessary for Rosenstein to appoint the special prosecutor so as to avoid any sort of hint of wrongdoing.

On Trump's part it was a politically stupid move.


Comey knew he would have to say under oath that Trump wasn't personally under investigation, so he leaked some stuff to the media and made up an obstruction of justice claim. THAT opened the door for Mueller, not the firing. The firing had bipartisan support. Comey's answers under oath indicate that he was not fit for office.

No. What opened the door to Mueller was Trump firing Comey after asking Comey to drop an investigation that was creating a great deal of pressure for Trump because, as we've now found it, it was directly related to a conversation with the Russians that Flynn lied about, and which he undertook by order of senior Trump campaign personnel (likely Kushner).

And, to reiterate the point I've been making for months: Trump is responsible for his own actions.

HoganIsGOAT
12-05-2017, 11:26 AM
Meanwhile it cost over 100k a day for NYC to guard Trump Tower because the fcking First Lady and Barron can’t be bothered to live at the White House.

Baron is getting routine death threats and the location of his school has been posted on an ISIS website. Leave the kid alone you monster. Trump's family should be off limits, unless they work in the administration.

HoganIsGOAT
12-05-2017, 11:27 AM
Wrong!


§ 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and -

(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and

(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.

So the mere fact that a special counsel has been appointed indicates that probable cause exists.

That is completely false.

tyqb4
12-05-2017, 11:27 AM
Trumpers who believe Trump did nothing wrong should be the happiest about the investigation. You're going to have a neutral 3rd party clear him of any wrongdoing. There probably isn't a single thing that could be better for Trump/Trumpers.

LaoHu7
12-05-2017, 11:36 AM
Pennies compared to wanting 15 billion for a wall that would stop everything.
fixed that for you

rampagefc77
12-05-2017, 11:44 AM
Trumpers who believe Trump did nothing wrong should be the happiest about the investigation. You're going to have a neutral 3rd party clear him of any wrongdoing. There probably isn't a single thing that could be better for Trump/Trumpers.

I believe this will ultimately be the case. But the presence of the investigation and media spinning of the investigation is obviously a burden on Trump and his objectives while in office.

I also believe that when the sealed indictments come out, it will not be a good thing for dems/deep state.

Whether or not any of it is true, you should read the posts by Q anon over the last month. Some bold claims and accurate predictions in there regarding world events and the whole Trump situation. It may all be one big lie, but there is enough accurate information to make you think.

HoganIsGOAT
12-05-2017, 11:53 AM
Trumpers who believe Trump did nothing wrong should be the happiest about the investigation. You're going to have a neutral 3rd party clear him of any wrongdoing. There probably isn't a single thing that could be better for Trump/Trumpers.

False - the damage has been done. Just like a guy falsely accused of rape after it's already been covered in the mainstream media (see Duke Lacrosse case).

tyqb4
12-05-2017, 12:09 PM
False - the damage has been done. Just like a guy falsely accused of rape after it's already been covered in the mainstream media (see Duke Lacrosse case).

Duke Lacrosse had their season canceled. Trump is still playing. Maybe at a disadvantage but some of it is self inflicted based on bad hiring practices and the way he has handled this in general. There also wont be any deterioration in national interest on this. The conclusion will reach as many people as the speculation did/does. I think the way the media has handled the investigation is probably worse than anything Trump himself has done in terms of national security or stability but that is a different issue.

TommyTuffGuy
12-05-2017, 12:11 PM
You guise won't give a flyin' chitball once you realize the 3.2 + was spent to take down the swamp.

TommyTuffGuy
12-05-2017, 12:13 PM
Trumpers who believe Trump did nothing wrong should be the happiest about the investigation. You're going to have a neutral 3rd party clear him of any wrongdoing. There probably isn't a single thing that could be better for Trump/Trumpers.

This is correct. They are also going to follow their direction of duty and lead to the real perps as well, because it only leads one way. Although Mueller and Co. are not neutral in any sense, it's arranged as such.

miscinbro
12-05-2017, 12:16 PM
Baron is getting routine death threats and the location of his school has been posted on an ISIS website. Leave the kid alone you monster. Trump's family should be off limits, unless they work in the administration.

Interested in source (note - I’m not saying it’s not true). But if that is the case wouldn’t the White House be far safer?

HoganIsGOAT
12-05-2017, 12:18 PM
Interested in source (note - I’m not saying it’s not true). But if that is the case wouldn’t the White House be far safer?

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/isis-calls-assassination-barron-trump/

The White House is an old building with bad physical security, and it's been rather easy to get past Secret Service to have a shot at getting in. I'm sure they can afford a more secure set-up elsewhere, while still having Secret Service protection.

Bushmaster
12-05-2017, 12:57 PM
how many people died in the Iraq war?

no investigation?

Deflect much?

|ceman
12-05-2017, 01:09 PM
Deflect much?

there were like a dozen different benghazi investigations and committees, so it's safe to say there was sufficient effort put behind investigating an incident where 4 americans died.

but how many americans and iraqi civilians died in the iraq war that was based on false pretenses and deceptions? I guess we don't investigate that stuff, right?

rampagefc77
12-05-2017, 01:10 PM
there were like a dozen different benghazi investigations and committees, so it's safe to say there was sufficient effort put behind investigating an incident where 4 americans died.

but how many americans and iraqi civilians died in the iraq war that was based on false pretenses and deceptions? I guess we don't investigate that stuff, right?

I would be happy to investigate the bush admin. Bush is deep state.

neuron
12-05-2017, 01:12 PM
there were like a dozen different benghazi investigations and committees, so it's safe to say there was sufficient effort put behind investigating an incident where 4 americans died.

but how many americans and iraqi civilians died in the iraq war that was based on false pretenses and deceptions? I guess we don't investigate that stuff, right?

And how many people died during the Korean War when Truman was in charge? Herp de derp. You have the brainpower of a potato.

ceizer1985
12-05-2017, 01:13 PM
Or you could just back down from your original statement and agree that some of these investigation are a waste of resources

Its ok to be wrong. Digging your hole deeper just makes you look like a fool

I'm not enough of an expert to say what's wasteful and what isn't. And neither are you.

Bushmaster
12-05-2017, 01:13 PM
there were like a dozen different benghazi investigations and committees, so it's safe to say there was sufficient effort put behind investigating an incident where 4 americans died.

but how many americans and iraqi civilians died in the iraq war that was based on false pretenses and deceptions? I guess we don't investigate that stuff, right?

Or maybe we do..?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/washington/05cnd-intel.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/divided-senate-committee_n_105374.html

Now take your emo knee jerk deflections and gtfo.

|ceman
12-05-2017, 01:24 PM
Or maybe we do..?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/washington/05cnd-intel.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/divided-senate-committee_n_105374.html

Now take your emo knee jerk deflections and gtfo.

I had forgotten about those investigations. Thanks for reminding me.

It never got much traction and probably goes a long way to support the idea that if your name is Bush or Clinton you get a free pass. (except Billy Bush - his ass got fired).

arn710
12-05-2017, 01:34 PM
I'm not enough of an expert to say what's wasteful and what isn't. And neither are you.

I don't need to be an expert to voice my opinion on how my tax dollars are spent

Based on the results of these political witch hunts (feel free to include any done under Obama, Bush or Clinton), do you feel these investigations are worth while?

beowulf10
12-05-2017, 01:37 PM
I don't need to be an expert to voice my opinion on how my tax dollars are spent

Based on the results of these political witch hunts (feel free to include any done under Obama, Bush or Clinton), do you feel these investigations are worth while?

Do you think the investigation of Nixon was a political witch hunt?

How much would you spend to ensure the integrity of our legal system and the Rule of Law?

WrestlingFan123
12-05-2017, 01:38 PM
lmao, I dare Trump supporters to come in here and sh*t talk LE after all the "law and order" knob-gobbling Trump and his supporters participated in during the campaign.

Much like Never Trumpers were blaming Comey for HRC's loss and said the FBI investigation into her emails were partisan in nature, now Comey and the FBI are infallible defenders of the Republic.

Kane_89
12-05-2017, 01:41 PM
Much like HILLARY SUPPORTERS were blaming Comey for HRC's loss and said the FBI investigation into her emails were partisan in nature, now Comey and the FBI are infallible defenders of the Republic.

fixed that for you.

and you wont find me in that group

arn710
12-05-2017, 01:50 PM
Do you think the investigation of Nixon was a political witch hunt?

How much would you spend to ensure the integrity of our legal system and the Rule of Law?

No but I love that Libs keep referencing the Nixon investigation. I think the current investigation bears closer resemblance to the Clinton impeachment and the Scooter Libby case

Do you think those were political witch hunts? What about Benghazi and Clinton's emails?

How do you expect me to quantify such a ridiculous question?

LargePeter
12-05-2017, 02:01 PM
BREAKING: details to come

Special counsel Robert Mueller details $3.2 million in costs for early months of Trump-Russia investigation

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-robert-mueller-details-32-million-costs-51587768




Special counsel Robert Mueller's office spent $3.2 million during the first few months of his investigation into Russian election interference and possible coordination with associates of President Donald Trump.

In addition, the Justice Department has spent $3.5 million to support the investigation, though the special counsel's office says that money would have been spent anyway if Mueller had not been appointed. Mueller incorporated several ongoing investigations within the Justice Department including those of Trump campaign contacts with Russia, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's business activities and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

The details of the expenditures related to Mueller's investigation were laid out in a copy of the report obtained by The Associated Press, which was subsequently released publicly by the special counsel's office. The report covers from May 17, the date of Mueller's appointment, through Sept. 30, the end of the federal fiscal year.

Mueller's office says in the report that about $1.7 million was for salary and benefits, and more than $223,000 was spent on travel-related expenses. Despite the international focus of Mueller's probe, only about $2,800 was spent on actual travel costs. The rest was spent on the relocation of Justice Department employees temporarily assigned to the expanding investigation, the report shows.

So far, the special counsel has charged four people as part of the investigation including Manafort and Flynn.

....so, $800k per conviction?

What a time to be alive

7rmr
12-05-2017, 02:26 PM
So still substantially less than has been spent on Trump's golf trips. Interesting

TDKSparda
12-05-2017, 02:29 PM
bargain really

x-trainer ben
12-06-2017, 07:48 AM
So still substantially less than has been spent on Trump's golf trips. Interesting

LOL, this guy. :)

seven11
12-06-2017, 08:49 AM
That is completely false.

Could you please post the correct law about appointing a special counsel?