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ElusiveTiger
10-12-2017, 04:56 PM
If someone starts at between 20-30% body, should their main focus hitting at least 15% body fat before going into a surplus?

Grizzly237
10-12-2017, 05:51 PM
At least 15% I lean bulked last winter at 12% and wish I would of cut till 10% then start my bulk.

Heisman2
10-12-2017, 06:09 PM
Depends on your weight to a degree. Someone who is fairly low in weight but with higher bodyfat percentage (ie, skinny fat) may benefit from just eating to hunger and training hard rather than cutting or bulking. 15 percent is a very arbitrary cutoff as many people misestimate their bodyfat percentage and will have varying degrees of insulin sensitivity.

ElusiveTiger
10-12-2017, 06:11 PM
At least 15% I lean bulked last winter at 12% and wish I would of cut till 10% then start my bulk.

ya but not everyone can afford to cut to 12 or 10% on their first shred.

Kewbrah
10-12-2017, 06:48 PM
Surely nobody in the world would be insane enough to deliberately go into a surplus while at 20-30%?

ErikTheElectric
10-12-2017, 07:21 PM
Whatever's "always best" will vary from person to person.

It all depends on how "okay" you are will gaining body fat.

farmersince1969
10-12-2017, 09:42 PM
Surely nobody in the world would be insane enough to deliberately go into a surplus while at 20-30%?

Underestimated by bodyfat before, was around 23% when I started a few months back.
Currently undergoing for some recomp maybe till I reach 11-13%.

allrnder
10-12-2017, 10:53 PM
"trainees should not be starting out their muscle gaining phase too fat. Males should be ~10-12% body fat before even considering going on any kind of ‘bulk’"
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html/

Mrpb
10-13-2017, 12:50 AM
If someone starts at between 20-30% body, should their main focus hitting at least 15% body fat before going into a surplus?

They should either cut or recomp.

Beginners with higher body fat are excellent recomp candidates. Recomping and cutting can be combined as well.

HeMB
10-13-2017, 06:49 AM
"trainees should not be starting out their muscle gaining phase too fat. Males should be ~10-12% body fat before even considering going on any kind of ‘bulk’"
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html/
I suppose these guidelines should be followed only by more advanced lifters. Novices with around 15 bodyfat levels and negligible muscle mass have no business cutting or they will end up looking even more skinnyfat than before starting.

Mrpb
10-13-2017, 07:46 AM
I suppose these guidelines should be followed only by more advanced lifters. Novices with around 15 bodyfat levels and negligible muscle mass have no business cutting or they will end up looking even more skinnyfat than before starting.

I agree, a beginner at 15% would be better off bulking on a very small surplus or recomping at maintenance.