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HoganIsGOAT
08-17-2017, 04:23 AM
Following the car attack in Charlottesville and the toppling of the Confederate statue in Durham, Daily Mail editor Piers Morgan suggested it is time to limit the Second and First Amendments.
Morgan intimates that both Amendments need to be revisited and amended in a way that adds restriction.

He tweeted:

Piers Morgan ✔ @piersmorgan
Both 1st & 2nd Amendments should be amended again, in my humble opinion.
To ban Nazis & reduce gun deaths. https://twitter.com/Me_In_Jersey/status/897848827654307844 …
11:54 AM - Aug 16, 2017

Piers elaborated in other tweets that hate speech should not be protected by the 1st Amendment and America had better wake up (yes, someone from the UK saying this).

There are immediate problems with Morgan’s suggestion, among which is the fact that neither rally—Charlottesville or Durham—witnessed gun fire or injuries due to firearms. Secondly, the problem with the rallies goes beyond so-called “Nazis,” therefore focusing on that one group actually plays into the hands of the protesters. In so doing, it ignores TIME‘s report of Antifa involvement at Charlottesville and ABC 11’s report of Workers World Party members’ alleged involvement in toppling the statue in Durham.

Skezo
08-17-2017, 04:48 AM
Piers morgan has became dramatically more conservative over the years. 10 years ago I couldn't stand him.

JMath
08-17-2017, 04:51 AM
I used to always think it was ridiculous how the anti-gun people would immediately attack gun rights when there was a shooting, but then when killers would use a different method they were just quiet about the method and instead said corny stuff like "we need to stand together!". Just when I thought their intentions couldn't become more obvious they decide take their stupidity a step further and attack gun rights even when guns weren't used in the killing. Eventually I suppose every loss of life will result in a need to have a conversation about guns.

Drunk driver gets into car accident and kills someone - "we need to address the gun issue"
Kid overdoses on drugs - "we need more gun control"
Baby dies during birth - "guns!!!"



Piers morgan has became dramatically more conservative over the years. 10 years ago I couldn't stand him.

I'm just speculating, but I've always suspected that it was because his hardcore left stance seemed to really do him in. Which seems unusual given how blatantly slanted the media is to the left, but when gun control was the talk of the town, he was so outspoken I think it ultimately did more harm than good. Once the gun control gravy train ceased to be the major topic in the news, he kind of just went away it seemed.

Canadian2point0
08-17-2017, 05:09 AM
Restricting rights in times of strife.....can't go wrong there, lol.

Bushmaster
08-17-2017, 05:09 AM
I used to always think it was ridiculous how the anti-gun people would immediately attack gun rights when there was a shooting, but then when killers would use a different method they were just quiet about the method and instead said corny stuff like "we need to stand together!". Just when I thought their intentions couldn't become more obvious they decide take their stupidity a step further and attack gun rights even when guns weren't used in the killing. Eventually I suppose every loss of life will result in a need to have a conversation about guns.

Drunk driver gets into car accident and kills someone - "we need to address the gun issue"
Kid overdoses on drugs - "we need more gun control"
Baby dies during birth - "guns!!!"

They did that when those 50 LBTQGBQWTF's were killed in Florida last year. Homeboy was a stone cold ISIS sympathizer, but did libs rage about him the way they do bigotracistnazis? No.. they said guns are bad and made excuses for him like "There's no evidence he was a member of ISIS!" :mad:

Selective outrage is selective.

JaxBrah
08-17-2017, 05:20 AM
lol that cuck hails from a place where police go after tweets more than they do terrorists

twovalvekid
08-17-2017, 05:21 AM
Morgan has been repeated owned on the 2nd amendment argument by people. One day he'll learn to just give up.

And, the US doesn't give 2 chits about what a brit thinks of the 2nd amendment.

Ironsmith29
08-17-2017, 05:30 AM
At first they came for the white nationalists, and I said nothing...

JoshSP1985
08-17-2017, 05:32 AM
Lmao go home piers! However, I suspect the UK doesn't want him either.

Shortfuze
08-17-2017, 05:41 AM
I'm not even white but I for one will never stand for any change to the 1st and 2nd amendment. They are the cornerstone of all rights, freedoms, and liberties of the American people and if you try to alter or restrict them, it will open up a pandora's box of problems.

JoshSP1985
08-17-2017, 05:45 AM
I'm not even white but I for one will never stand for any change to the 1st and 2nd amendment. They are the cornerstone of all rights, freedoms, and liberties of the American people and if you try to alter or restrict them, it will open up a pandora's box of problems.

Yep there is a reason they are #1 and #2

twovalvekid
08-17-2017, 05:50 AM
I'm not even white but I for one will never stand for any change to the 1st and 2nd amendment. They are the cornerstone of all rights, freedoms, and liberties of the American people and if you try to alter or restrict them, it will open up a pandora's box of problems.

The real "problem" with what happened is those two groups were allowed to "interact" with one another. Making the situation (and media chitstorm) 10000000000x worse.

IPoopStandingUp
08-17-2017, 06:18 AM
wouldnt that require 3/4 states approval? good luck with that

wesleysh21
08-17-2017, 06:21 AM
Whenever someone from a country that doesn't embody the freedom we have in America wants to change us to become more like them...it reinforces my belief in how we have everything set up right now. Its not perfect, nothing is. But I don't want to become the UK. No thanks Jeff.

A-GAME
08-17-2017, 06:21 AM
No 1st and 2nd amendment, no USA. You will just be a bunch of overweight warring tribes.

Ramoneb87
08-17-2017, 06:30 AM
The real "problem" with what happened is those two groups were allowed to "interact" with one another. Making the situation (and media chitstorm) 10000000000x worse.
They weren't allowed to interact, they were forced to intereact, the police secured a perimiter around the park and marched the protesors off the property, directly into the anti protesters.

celltechbrahz
08-17-2017, 06:31 AM
Every contrived media event like this is seen as a stepping stone for justifying the eventual surrender of our remaining rights. People are becoming more willing to accept these solutions and less capable of seeing how all of these things fit together.

wesleysh21
08-17-2017, 06:43 AM
They weren't allowed to interact, they were forced to intereact, the police secured a perimiter around the park and marched the protesors off the property, directly into the anti protesters.

That seems like a setup to me. By what I'm reading, they not only forced the KKK into the streets with the Antifa, but they said "be right back, we don't have our riot gear with us." Wait, wut? They put them together, then left to go get their riot gear.

twovalvekid
08-17-2017, 07:29 AM
That seems like a setup to me. By what I'm reading, they not only forced the KKK into the streets with the Antifa, but they said "be right back, we don't have our riot gear with us." Wait, wut? They put them together, then left to go get their riot gear.

This is what I "heard" as well.

ImpressiveGainz
08-17-2017, 07:34 AM
"Hate speech"

Some made up progressive concept to eliminate the 1st Amendment. If you're not able to express your opinion freely, no matter how vile, then you don't actually have freedom of speech. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Sigurd33
08-17-2017, 07:36 AM
That's going to be a no from me. Enjoy Big Brother in the UK Piers; a place with cameras on every corner and where having guns for self-defense in your home is practically unheard of.

MoeBettuh
08-17-2017, 07:38 AM
Piers Morgan can stfu about the 2nd. He's grown more conservative over the years, but he consistently comes back to his liberal roots. ****ing limey.

MiscInformed
08-17-2017, 07:41 AM
Restricting rights in times of strife.....can't go wrong there, lol.

Proof that Soros' money is funding all of this. The degenerate left desires to create the perception of crises so that they impose change that otherwise would never gain any traction.

It was the idiot Kenyan's chief of staff who famously said "never let a crisis go to waste" as the explanation for how they could use the school shooting in Connecticut to infringe on the rights of citizens.

MiscInformed
08-17-2017, 07:43 AM
Piers Morgan can stfu about the 2nd. He's grown more conservative over the years, but he consistently comes back to his liberal roots. ****ing limey.

Why does he even have a visa? Do we not have enough Americans to fill all the slots of for mindless TV shows? Cancel his visa and send his smarmy arse back to Londonistan.

tnel00
08-17-2017, 07:46 AM
Brits hate liberty. What else is new?

Shortfuze
08-17-2017, 07:54 AM
By the way, would Piers Morgan support restricting "hate speech" in his own country? Especially when radical Muslims are on the streets preaching for the imposition of Sharia law in UK and other vile, homophobic, sexist, racist, anti-non Muslim rhetoric?

GolfPants
08-17-2017, 07:56 AM
Ok let's ban hate speech.

I find every word Piers Morgan says to be hateful and offensive. Lock him up.

nkiritsis13
08-17-2017, 08:00 AM
Because that will fix the toxic fumes that exist after bleach and ammonia got together.

As easy as it is to say, "well just ban the Nazis," where does it end? What about the far left socialist supporters? Or Islamist Extremism proponents and sympathizers? Or Westboro Baptists? Or any controversial organization that another group openly denounces? Lest we forget the atrocities that the Soviet Union committed during World War II as well. Seeing as how German soldiers would rather be captured as prisoners of war by Americans over the Soviets is a testament to that reality, as well as the difference between our own national pride and value towards freedoms and rights.

Expanding upon the WWII analogy, we were still by no means infallible saints who did no wrong or took actions that we later regretted, but the difference is the compromise to accept risks under the notion of accountability, and emphasize freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Most importantly, how does banning target groups actually solve the problem? Typically, banned organizations simply take greater strides to hide their activity and known presence, but they don't suddenly rethink their actions or beliefs. And they most certainly do not take efforts to engage in a civil discourse or come to terms with anyone else; if anything, the hostile attitudes would exist in a vacuum that allows them to incubate into exponentially angrier and potentially violent ones.

twovalvekid
08-17-2017, 08:57 AM
Ok let's ban hate speech.

I find every word Piers Morgan says to be hateful and offensive. Lock him up.

Maybe this will get idiots like this to realize how this gets taken advantage of...


By the way, would Piers Morgan support restricting "hate speech" in his own country? Especially when radical Muslims are on the streets preaching for the imposition of Sharia law in UK and other vile, homophobic, sexist, racist, anti-non Muslim rhetoric?

Bro, you need to be more tolerant.

WarriorRustler
08-17-2017, 08:59 AM
Maybe this will get idiots like this to realize how this gets taken advantage of...



Bro, you need to be more tolerant.


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twovalvekid
08-17-2017, 09:00 AM
This is off subject, but is your user name based off a 2 valve 4.6 mustang?

Si senior.

WarriorRustler
08-17-2017, 09:05 AM
Si senior.

That's awesome, I assumed it was, but wanted to confirm.

twovalvekid
08-17-2017, 09:21 AM
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EpicLevelWizard
08-17-2017, 10:17 AM
"Phuck you! Don't take my guns! I need them to protect myself, I need them to protect my family. I'm a responsible gun owner, I keep my guns locked in a safe." ;)

Lmao, while I don't agree with changing either of those amendments, any of you who disagree with his right to say those things don't actually realize the point of the first amendment.

Also, they're called amendments for a reason, do you know what it means to amend something? Hint, it means you can phucking change it, you're treating it like a Hindu treats a sacred cow or a Muslim treats Mohammed. Zealotry is bad, even with good intentions, for further evidence see the Middle East or the attacks around the world.

Don't be a Jim Jeffries joke everyone, use logic instead of emotion for your arguments against this.

Austanian
08-17-2017, 10:20 AM
I have zero problem with this...

I would 100% rather have those amendments modified by an amendment process and not undermined by judges and states.

IF enough of the population supports the amendments being proposed that it can pass I have no objections.

IPoopStandingUp
08-17-2017, 10:43 AM
Don't be a Jim Jeffries joke everyone, use logic instead of emotion for your arguments against this.

I agree with you but the only time ive seen jim jefferies in a debate his logic basically included "fuk off. Fuk you. Trump is hitler."