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BossLady91
01-31-2017, 03:34 PM
I just bought the stim free quadra lean supplement which has both cla and l-carnitine, and i am getting terrible head pressure in the back of my head. I've also tried Lean Mode which also consists of CLA & L-Carnt. I workout consistently- including lifting and cardio and my diet is in check. Which supplement is more effective without the side effects to leaning out/toning? I was thinking I could try the liquid form…I'm leaning towards CLA because i think its the Carnitine which is giving me headaches.

Please give me honest reviews/opinions about these supplements, or other supplement suggestion. I know my diet and training is what is most important so please don't tell me something i already know. I'm looking for something to assist in line with my diet/fitness.

OT2000
01-31-2017, 03:38 PM
Neither will help you lean out. Waste of money.

lucia316
01-31-2017, 04:39 PM
Since neither do anything, would return. Especially if you think it's giving you headaches.

There is little on the market that is going to make a marked difference in body fat loss if your diet is on point.

BigAust
02-01-2017, 01:04 AM
As you mentioned you know diet and training are important. Having tried pretty much everything and knowing over the years what make the percentages of difference. I would get a capsule form of CLA and space it out over the day. Try the liquid form of L-Carnitine. Most liquid shots contain a serving of 3000mg of L-Carnitine.

I use both leading up to a show. Take into consideration what people may say but then see for yourself what condition they are in themselves? Nothing beats hard work but the supplements will work with you.

OT2000
02-01-2017, 01:28 AM
^What garbage. Feel free to post any proof that they work.

Oh wait, they don't.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10861338/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8321112/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21593349/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17381964/

showjo1josh
02-01-2017, 02:49 AM
Yea like said above you'll be wasting your money. Just put your money to your diet and make sure you have your macros figured out and try to hit those daily

so far away
02-01-2017, 03:40 AM
^What garbage. Feel free to post any proof that they work.

Oh wait, they don't.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10861338/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8321112/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21593349/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17381964/

Slightly off topic but are the ALCAR benefits for memory/mood/brain legit then? I'm assuming there's no real studies or way to completely prove one way or another but just curious.

OT2000
02-01-2017, 04:45 AM
Slightly off topic but are the ALCAR benefits for memory/mood/brain legit then? I'm assuming there's no real studies or way to completely prove one way or another but just curious.

There are real studies that showed remarkable benefits. Most of those studies were done on the elderly, youth or others with cognitive impairments not necessarily bodybuilders. However knowing it's moa and effect on the CNS, this should yield the same impact on healthy individuals.

Misctake7
02-01-2017, 05:00 AM
Since neither do anything, would return. Especially if you think it's giving you headaches.

There is little on the market that is going to make a marked difference in body fat loss if your diet is on point.
^This

Yohimbine is quite benefitial during a cut if your diet is dialed in. Though if you're sensitive to Y, you might have some of the harsh side effects of it. If it's something you choose to look at, dose it really low to begin with and work your way up.

TMac26
02-01-2017, 05:02 AM
Athletes should refrain from posting.


Esp when they come in and insult people. I always want to say to them "post your REAL supplement protocol"

lucia316
02-01-2017, 11:24 AM
^What garbage. Feel free to post any proof that they work.

Oh wait, they don't.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10861338/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8321112/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21593349/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17381964/

But but. If you use them and you end up shredded at the end of a cut, they must do something, right?