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wintersun
05-07-2016, 06:40 PM
... that if he doesn't win the NBA finals, he will actually have to accept blame?

or will it be Tyronn Lue's fault, or the Cleveland fans' fault for not being loud enough during games, or the NBA's fault for not scheduling the Cavs with enough rest days at home during the finals?


When the Cavs win - his team's great, Lebron's great

When the Cavs lose - his team stinks, not enough help, Lebron's still great

TexasMajor
05-07-2016, 06:45 PM
If the Cavs can beat the Spurs or a healthy Warriors team this year, Lebron will finally have a ring without an asterisk- his first legitimate title.

LordFarquaad69
05-07-2016, 07:39 PM
Or, they lose and it's because they went up against an all time great team

JewishSuperHero
05-07-2016, 07:49 PM
This narrative is so stupid.

ninous26
05-07-2016, 08:01 PM
... that if he doesn't win the NBA finals, he will actually have to accept blame?

or will it be Tyronn Lue's fault, or the Cleveland fans' fault for not being loud enough during games, or the NBA's fault for not scheduling the Cavs with enough rest days at home during the finals?


When the Cavs win - his team's great, Lebron's great

When the Cavs lose - his team stinks, not enough help, Lebron's still great

If you take the cavs roster right now and swap LeBron with any other player in their prime in NBA history they would not win it this year. Cleveland will not win it this year as much as I'd wish they would.

This is a LeBron hate thread.

Fail.

HandstandPushup
05-07-2016, 08:13 PM
The 3 definites in life:

Death
Taxes
Lebron needs more help




So to answer your question OP, no.

WildBill112
05-07-2016, 09:11 PM
Looks like BeastMode made an alternate account

mvpshaq32
05-07-2016, 11:07 PM
cavs fans will say it's because they don't have Varejao

1800_Cool_Guy
05-07-2016, 11:10 PM
People still say this? lol

MaxRepJosh
05-07-2016, 11:12 PM
I really don't understand this thread.

Are you saying that Cavs fans didn't have a legitimate reason to think that circumstances effected them negatively last year? They didn't have a reason to think they could have won without being unlucky?

This is a a very dumb, illogical thread.

Such is life as a LeBron hater.

testbug
05-08-2016, 12:23 AM
If the Cavs can beat the Spurs or a healthy Warriors team this year, Lebron will finally have a ring without an asterisk- his first legitimate title.

idk about that, you know with the jumping ship (again), assembling a superteam.

SompletelyCober
05-08-2016, 12:38 AM
If you take the cavs roster right now and swap LeBron with any other player in their prime in NBA history they would not win it this year. Cleveland will not win it this year as much as I'd wish they would.

This is a LeBron hate thread.

Fail.

You could literally put a dozen or more current players on this Cavs team and remove LeBron and they would have a legit shot to win the title.

ninous26
05-08-2016, 12:45 AM
You could literally put a dozen or more current players on this Cavs team and remove LeBron and they would have a legit shot to win the title.

Name one.

Hang on. Before you even name one. Does the current team with lebron have a "legit shot to win the title"?

YesWayNoWeigh
05-08-2016, 12:55 AM
He has less help than curry. why would he get "blame" for losing to a superior team when his team wouldn't even make the playoffs without him.

YWOC
05-08-2016, 08:10 AM
It will definitely be either Lue or Love's fault according to the LeStan crew, you can guarantee that

FAH_Q
05-08-2016, 08:59 AM
He has less help than curry. why would he get "blame" for losing to a superior team when his team wouldn't even make the playoffs without him.
This ^

JustBulk
05-08-2016, 09:02 AM
It will definitely be either Lue or Love's fault according to the LeStan crew, you can guarantee that

came in to post this

nvrstopworking
05-08-2016, 09:49 AM
... that if he doesn't win the NBA finals, he will actually have to accept blame?

or will it be Tyronn Lue's fault, or the Cleveland fans' fault for not being loud enough during games, or the NBA's fault for not scheduling the Cavs with enough rest days at home during the finals?


When the Cavs win - his team's great, Lebron's great

When the Cavs lose - his team stinks, not enough help, Lebron's still great

Really depends.

If Kyrie and Love chit themselves and play like garbage and the Cavs shooters start missing then you can't really blame Lebron can you? Same way you wouldn't be able to blame Curry if Green and Thompson played badly.

As it stands the Cavs look like a championship calibre team from top to bottom. They're constructed well and they're playing the way that they're supposed to play. If they continue to do that and get beat by someone then you just have to tip your hat and say "GG".

ClutchAnalyst
05-08-2016, 09:59 AM
id say so OP, but you never know what lebronies will come up with, especially neverstopworking, he has the amazing ability to come up with a different excuse each time

Spill512
05-08-2016, 10:17 AM
id say so OP, but you never know what lebronies will come up with, especially neverstopworking, he has the amazing ability to come up with a different excuse each time

Dude must have been a Creative Writing major. Son is unmatched when it comes to creating that fiction.

MaxRepJosh
05-08-2016, 10:29 AM
Dude must have been a Creative Writing major. Son is unmatched when it comes to creating that fiction.

Do you two have a mental disorder? Or has your trolling facade taken away your capability of rational thought?

You come into a thread living in your own world and don't address any point made. It's like you're reading off a script the other retard wrote.

sdballer5588
05-08-2016, 10:41 AM
If the Cavs can beat the Spurs or a healthy Warriors team this year, Lebron will finally have a ring without an asterisk- his first legitimate title.

Right up until you find a reason to deem it asterisked. Which I always look forward to.

nvrstopworking
05-08-2016, 11:23 AM
id say so OP, but you never know what lebronies will come up with, especially neverstopworking, he has the amazing ability to come up with a different excuse each time

You're right. Love and Kyrie being out last year was a pathetic attempt at a legit excuse.

I don't know what I (or any other sane person) was thinking.

ClutchAnalyst
05-08-2016, 11:29 AM
Dude must have been a Creative Writing major. Son is unmatched when it comes to creating that fiction.

with the elite skills he has its only makes sense that he has an honorary doctorate degree in that field

SompletelyCober
05-08-2016, 01:35 PM
Name one.

Hang on. Before you even name one. Does the current team with lebron have a "legit shot to win the title"?

Someone aware me if this guy's trolling, I can't tell. LeBron is one of the worst 3 point shooters in the league and his team just obliterated the 3pt single game record. He has 2 perennial all stars, maybe the best offensive rebounder in the league (also making max money), JR is what? 3rd in the league in 3s? Add in 3 point shooters and vets everywhere on the bench.

LeBron might have the most help in the league srs. His supporting cast is AT WORST 4th behind the Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder and that's a stretch. *And he only has to beat one of these teams to win the title.

He doesn't have to face a legit contender the likes of the Thunder, Spurs, Warriors on the way to the finals. If he loses this year it IS a failure. His team is GREAT. Plenty of Vegas sharps who make millions betting sports have been saying for months they would not bet against the Cavs to win the title. Enough excuses. He has everything going for him. No idea what more you fukers want.

YWOC
05-08-2016, 01:48 PM
Someone aware me if this guy's trolling, I can't tell. LeBron is one of the worst 3 point shooters in the league and his team just obliterated the 3pt single game record. He has 2 perennial all stars, maybe the best offensive rebounder in the league (also making max money), JR is what? 3rd in the league in 3s? Add in 3 point shooters and vets everywhere on the bench.

LeBron might have the most help in the league srs. His supporting cast is AT WORST 4th behind the Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder and that's a stretch. *And he only has to beat one of these teams to win the title.

He doesn't have to face a legit contender the likes of the Thunder, Spurs, Warriors on the way to the finals. If he loses this year it IS a failure. His team is GREAT. Plenty of Vegas sharps who make millions betting sports have been saying for months they would not bet against the Cavs to win the title. Enough excuses. He has everything going for him. No idea what more you fukers want.

LeBron could have 4 other all stars starting on his team and the excuses would still be rolling in

Spill512
05-08-2016, 02:05 PM
LeBron could have 4 other all stars starting on his team and the excuses would still be rolling in

Bruh, he literally played with the best players in the league from top to bottom and got bronze.

SompletelyCober
05-08-2016, 02:20 PM
Case in point, K-Love losing his mind right now in this game and Kyrie playing amazing in the first round. Golden State is amazing but you don't have much value if you bet against CLE winning the championship with their capabilities.

dtbrehm
05-08-2016, 02:46 PM
Supporting cast is definitely worse than GS. Cavs would be underdogs vs GS and SAS.

notWilliam
05-08-2016, 03:09 PM
he has a better supporting cast than KD, thats for sure.

wifestealer
05-08-2016, 03:13 PM
Bruh, he literally played with the best players in the league from top to bottom and got bronze.

self-confessed ether from a kobe stan that he wasn't one of the best players in the league from top to bottom.

nvrstopworking
05-08-2016, 03:16 PM
he has a better supporting cast than KD, thats for sure.

OKC's supporting cast isn't the problem. KD & WB just suck azz at sharing the ball and creating easy looks for others.

ClutchAnalyst
05-08-2016, 03:17 PM
OKC's supporting cast isn't the problem. KD & WB just suck azz at sharing the ball and creating easy looks for others.

if they did that, they would have never made the playoffs

Shortstop36
05-08-2016, 03:19 PM
not as much as curry. I can't imagine someone other than lebron leading the cavs to the championship lmao. Iggy winning fmvp is like jr smith lulz

nvrstopworking
05-08-2016, 03:27 PM
if they did that, they would have never made the playoffs

Cavs, Warriors and Spurs do a great job sharing the ball.... which is why those 3 teams are actually favourites to win the title.

And it's why OKC will always fall short.

ClutchAnalyst
05-08-2016, 03:30 PM
Cavs, Warriors and Spurs do a great job sharing the ball.... which is why those 3 teams are actually favourites to win the title.

And it's why OKC will always fall short.

yep, cause their bench sucks

perhaps Westbrook and Durant should work on their recruiting skills this offseason

Spill512
05-08-2016, 03:38 PM
self-confessed ether from a kobe stan that he wasn't one of the best players in the league from top to bottom.

Well obviously Kobe, Shaq, etc didn't play.

Where are you going with this? He needed more help to beat Carlos Arroyo and Javier Lopez?

BeastModeFTW
05-08-2016, 03:47 PM
OKC's supporting cast isn't the problem. KD & WB just suck azz at sharing the ball and creating easy looks for others.

potato post. Westbrook averages 10+ assists per game but somehow he's not creating easy looks. lmao. also huge difference between guys like cameron payne, dion waiters, kyle singler, and andre roberson are in the corner as opposed to jr swish, kevin love, channying frye, and shump. give westbrook a legion of auto fire 3 point shooters and he'd average 15 assists per game. okc's role players are wide open the entire game because the defensive attention durant and westbrook recieve they just can't hit open shots besides ibaka because they are poor shooters.

BeastModeFTW
05-08-2016, 03:49 PM
Cavs, Warriors and Spurs do a great job sharing the ball.... which is why those 3 teams are actually favourites to win the title.

And it's why OKC will always fall short.

lmao at saying the cavs do a great job sharing the ball their offense is mostly isos and pnr drive and kick 3's. difference is they have automatic 3 point shooters.

DrMVanNostrand
05-08-2016, 03:52 PM
potato post. Westbrook averages 10+ assists per game but somehow he's not creating easy looks. lmao. also huge difference between guys like cameron payne, dion waiters, kyle singler, and andre roberson are in the corner as opposed to jr swish, kevin love, channying frye, and shump. give westbrook a legion of auto fire 3 point shooters and he'd average 15 assists per game. okc's role players are wide open the entire game because the defensive attention durant and westbrook recieve they just can't hit open shots besides ibaka because they are poor shooters.
Truth. But why bother? These Lebronies are delusional

Spill512
05-08-2016, 03:53 PM
Cavs, Warriors and Spurs do a great job sharing the ball.... which is why those 3 teams are actually favourites to win the title.

And it's why OKC will always fall short.

Dead at grouping Cavs with the Warriors and Spurs.

BeastModeFTW
05-08-2016, 03:57 PM
Truth. But why bother? These Lebronies are delusional

its like these clowns forget that the Cavs when they had Waiters instead of JR Swish last year were mediocre.

Sikhveins
05-08-2016, 04:17 PM
Lol at people that say *asterik championships.


Salty

wintersun
05-08-2016, 04:27 PM
I really don't understand this thread.

Are you saying that Cavs fans didn't have a legitimate reason to think that circumstances effected them negatively last year? They didn't have a reason to think they could have won without being unlucky?

This is a a very dumb, illogical thread.

Such is life as a LeBron hater.

the cavs were good enough to win the Eastern Conference and 2 NBA finals games last year... but not good enough to win it all?


if the cavs had been knocked out of the playoffs immediately after love went out... or been swept once irving went out, it would make sense to blame the injuries.


BUT... they were without love for the entire playoffs, except for the first four games, and they still came within 2 game of winning the NBA title...


they won 2 games in the NBA finals WITHOUT irving or love... so, they were good enough to win 2 games against GS, but not good enough to win 4?

ninous26
05-08-2016, 04:28 PM
Someone aware me if this guy's trolling, I can't tell. LeBron is one of the worst 3 point shooters in the league and his team just obliterated the 3pt single game record. He has 2 perennial all stars, maybe the best offensive rebounder in the league (also making max money), JR is what? 3rd in the league in 3s? Add in 3 point shooters and vets everywhere on the bench.

LeBron might have the most help in the league srs. His supporting cast is AT WORST 4th behind the Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder and that's a stretch. *And he only has to beat one of these teams to win the title.

He doesn't have to face a legit contender the likes of the Thunder, Spurs, Warriors on the way to the finals. If he loses this year it IS a failure. His team is GREAT. Plenty of Vegas sharps who make millions betting sports have been saying for months they would not bet against the Cavs to win the title. Enough excuses. He has everything going for him. No idea what more you fukers want.

Hey bro. All I asked you to do was name one and answer my question.

You did neither.

I'm so sorry you're this upset over another human being.

FaBoLaOz
05-08-2016, 04:44 PM
lebron clearly doesn't have enough help, hes with a bunch of scrubs.

out of all the teams in the second round/teams left. he's the only one that is a lone all-star on his team.

definitely carrying these scrubs lol.

edit: obviously besides portland, who should have had one with lillard

YWOC
05-08-2016, 05:00 PM
lebron clearly doesn't have enough help, hes with a bunch of scrubs.

out of all the teams in the second round/teams left. he's the only one that is a lone all-star on his team.

definitely carrying these scrubs lol.

edit: obviously besides portland, who should have had one with lillard

stop