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LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 08:07 PM
I've heard at least 40 speeches by him, and he's given some great speeches, but OMG this is hardcore as heck far moreso than anything before ....

I dont care if you're a Trump supporter, or hater, or in between .... you have to listen to this .... it will be one of the most intense things you've ever experienced ....



31,000 ppl in attendance, and about 1,000 illegal alien protesters outside.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWjQiYXVfXM

OWjQiYXVfXM

[Trump starts speaking at 7:30]

It starts off pretty normal - but once he gets wound up, he gets really powerful.



I'm 43 yrs old and have listened to a lot of political speeches, maybe 500 in my life, and have never heard anything even remotely close to this powerful.

None of our recent Presidents ever given a speech this powerful.

Reagan gave some great speeches but never anything this good.

Not even JFK, and I've heard a lot of his speeches.

Martin Luther King, Jr maybe comes close because some of his speeches were very powerful like this.

Hitler himself, the king of intense, powerful, moving, political oration,(not a fan, just saying his intense, powerful, moving public speaking skills were phenomenal) would be like ' Trump ist sehr gut.'


This is the most hardcore powerful speech hes ever given, and the most powerful English language one I've ever heard.

You will be surprised.

Fahnestock
04-28-2016, 08:10 PM
Best speech he's had in a long time. Ridiculous crowd. Cuck Don Lemon cut away the second the victims to foreign invaders came to speak, and cut away again when Trump started talking about Radical Islam. The MSM has been so blatant this cycle, but they've overplayed their hand and their power is continually dwindling. It may be dead by November.

criminal_manne
04-28-2016, 08:11 PM
Cliffs ?

NetherRealm
04-28-2016, 08:12 PM
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1461898693457.png

Multiple stations cut to commercial in the middle of Jamiel's father telling his story of how his son was killed by an illegal immigrant who had been arrested multiple times including once for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

African Americans for Trump and Latino's for Trump signs littering the crowd.

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 08:14 PM
Cliffs ?


Just wait for the replay.


I seriously feel like Ive taken a drug, but its not only that, he nailed like 15 major points perfectly during first 15-20 minutes.


Just watch the replay.

Holy **** it was powerful as ****!

Fahnestock
04-28-2016, 08:14 PM
Cliffs ?

https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3571/6825/original.jpg

lalaland86
04-28-2016, 08:16 PM
Cliffs ?

Will live tweet.


-get out june 7 and vote

-latinos for trump I love those little guys

- i love CA

Rolling
04-28-2016, 08:17 PM
Unbelievable.

A true leader

lalaland86
04-28-2016, 08:17 PM
-invites up activist group of people who have had family members killed by illegal aliens.

aranadiscoteca
04-28-2016, 08:17 PM
In to watch later.

Hercegovac8
04-28-2016, 08:19 PM
https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3571/6825/original.jpg

Draft viewing party?

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 08:32 PM
They are even talking about it online on Twitter and Facebook and Reddit about the 'greatest most powerful political oration ever.'

I'm not joking, Trump is on top of the world and speaking what we all need to hear.

The replay of this doesn't need to be just posted in R/P.

I'm gonna post it in Misc. All of misc needs to see this. Maybe even the supplement section too. Maybe even in the nutrition section too.

NetherRealm
04-28-2016, 08:34 PM
CNN showing a view of the stadium and street it's absolutely MOBBED!

BigDawg69
04-28-2016, 08:35 PM
Cliffs ?
this is a movement folks

Orlando1234977
04-28-2016, 08:37 PM
Just go back and watch from the beginning, doing it now.

JunkFoodz
04-28-2016, 08:40 PM
When he brought out the black guy in the beginning and he told his story I teared up. Trump is a stand up guy

HoganIsGOAT
04-28-2016, 08:50 PM
Best speech he's had in a long time. Ridiculous crowd. Cuck Don Lemon cut away the second the victims to foreign invaders came to speak, and cut away again when Trump started talking about Radical Islam. The MSM has been so blatant this cycle, but they've overplayed their hand and their power is continually dwindling. It may be dead by November.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed it (CNN and Lemon are incredibly biased under the guise of impartiality), and yeah, one of his best speeches.

He'll win California.

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 08:52 PM
My God people ...


I dont care if you're a Trump supporter or a Trump hater, or something in between

You cannot miss this experience. It will shake you. Trump is ON FIRE.

I'm gonna repost a thread when the replay is online.

This is better than any speech Reagan ever gave.

wow just wow

HoganIsGOAT
04-28-2016, 08:53 PM
CNN showing a view of the stadium and street it's absolutely MOBBED!

They showed it for once, and Don Lemon had to make a mocking, smartass comment about it.

iabs
04-28-2016, 08:54 PM
they are even talking about it online on twitter and facebook and reddit about the 'greatest most powerful political oration ever.'

i'm not joking, trump is on top of the world and speaking what we all need to hear.

The replay of this doesn't need to be just posted in r/p.

I'm gonna post it in misc. All of misc needs to see this. Maybe even the supplement section too. Maybe even in the nutrition section too.

make sure you bump it multiple times!

BigRangs
04-28-2016, 08:56 PM
Holy **** I gotta replay this **** once the replay hits youtube.

I was shaking with his words, and he hit great points perfectly.

The best political campaign oration I've ever heard, and I'm 43 and have heard at least 500 of them over that time.

Hitler himself would be like 'goddamn Trump is good!'

You can rewind the live stream.

Fahnestock
04-28-2016, 08:59 PM
Whole lot of mexican flags at the trump protest outside. So sad how much these scum hate our country.

JE3TYNAR7w0

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 09:04 PM
Big Mexican drug cartel anti-Trump protest going on outside - Trump's motorcade trying to leave

live scene from inside the motorcade:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5D0fuXo2M

DB5D0fuXo2M

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 09:16 PM
I'm not gonna repost this powerful speech tonight because its so late.


I'll post it tomorrow.


Best speech ever by a modern English-speaking candidate that I've ever heard. Trump was on fire times ten.


To those of you who did not watch this from the beginning, you will be impressed.

surf junkie
04-28-2016, 09:19 PM
should surround them and deploy sarin gas to settle their nerves. srs. would assist with corpse removal.

Mcfreako
04-28-2016, 09:19 PM
I'm not gonna repost this powerful speech tonight because its so late.


I'll post it tomorrow.


Best speech ever by a modern English-speaking candidate that I've ever heard. Trump was on fire times ten.


To those of you who did not watch this from the beginning, you will be impressed.post a link to the replay in here plz

I need to see it

shortythree
04-28-2016, 09:22 PM
they just scattered like roaches after trying to tip that police cruiser

Turbomunkey
04-28-2016, 09:23 PM
post a link to the replay in here plz

I need to see it

In for reply. The live stream is a mob

Rolling
04-28-2016, 09:23 PM
Just watched it again

We are witnessing history

BigRangs
04-28-2016, 09:24 PM
post a link to the replay in here plz

I need to see it


Just rewind until you see him speaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE3TYNAR7w0

JE3TYNAR7w0

surf junkie
04-28-2016, 09:25 PM
crowd of criminals is tightly packed, good time for a 500lb airstrike

Fahnestock
04-28-2016, 09:29 PM
Sad how soft law enforcement has been forced to become because of PC scum politicians. These terrorists should be slaughtered on site like the roaches they are. Keep around a few and use any means necessary to extract the names and locations of their families and friends.

kusok
04-28-2016, 09:39 PM
wow what a speech. High energy!

ack33
04-28-2016, 09:46 PM
https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3571/6825/original.jpg

Can you imagine the size of the crowds when we get closer to the general election?

Hillary doesn't get crowds like that to hear her cough and suck down a cough drop in her speeches

NetherRealm
04-28-2016, 09:48 PM
nXpJXKCUiHc

HIGH... ENERGY!!!

lalaland86
04-28-2016, 09:51 PM
nXpJXKCUiHc

HIGH... ENERGY!!!

would rep irl

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 09:51 PM
wow what a speech. High energy!

Yes, and that's putting it mildly.

I've heard some powerful speeches from Trump before but holy **** this made me feel like I was getting high as **** off of it.

I've listened to some of the most powerful speeches in history and this is right up there with anything ever in terms of intense strong positive energy.

Trump has been strong before, but he's never been this powerful.

I think he's finally found the utmost energy he needs.

If he can keep giving speeches this powerful, he will rock the world.

surf junkie
04-28-2016, 09:56 PM
lol @ the Pershing story.

Pershing 'materially reduced' the population of the troublesome muslims in philipinnes.

ProteinEnough
04-28-2016, 10:00 PM
nxpjxkcuihc

high... Energy!!!

lol'd

dysenterygary
04-28-2016, 10:06 PM
any specific parts? no time to watch it all :/

CalmWind
04-28-2016, 10:08 PM
Illegal immigrants are surely the best kind of immigrants we want.

Just look at how peacefully they protest a Trump rally tonight.

http://i.imgur.com/jpT2NZo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zpwYlrl.jpg

BigRangs
04-28-2016, 10:11 PM
Illegal immigrants are surely the best kind of immigrants we want.

Just look at how peacefully they protest a Trump rally tonight.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/jpT2NZo.jpg[/ig]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zpwYlrl.jpg[/ig]

Shame that this is the only place you'll ever hear about it.

lalaland86
04-28-2016, 10:12 PM
Illegal immigrants are surely the best kind of immigrants we want.

Just look at how peacefully they protest a Trump rally tonight.

http://i.imgur.com/jpT2NZo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zpwYlrl.jpg

It's going to be so easy to round this phuckers up when Trump gets elected. They area all going to congregate at the protests.

ProteinEnough
04-28-2016, 10:17 PM
Illegal immigrants are surely the best kind of immigrants we want.

Just look at how peacefully they protest a Trump rally tonight.

http://i.imgur.com/jpT2NZo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zpwYlrl.jpg

horrible

Eugenics
04-28-2016, 10:19 PM
Unbelievable speech. So candid. No teleprompter etc. This guy speaks from the heart, how can people not appreciate how authentic this guy is.

CalmWind
04-28-2016, 10:20 PM
Protestors are attacking Trump supporters in their cars.

One Trump supporter decided to fight back and do donuts in circles around the protestors.

nXpJXKCUiHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpJXKCUiHc

FIREnICE
04-28-2016, 10:25 PM
incredible speech. we are gonna sweep the rest of the states guise. we're all gonna make it!

sawoobley
04-28-2016, 10:46 PM
Just wait for the replay.
I seriously feel like Ive taken a drug, but its not only that, he nailed like 15 major points perfectly during first 15-20 minutes.
Just watch the replay.
Holy **** it was powerful as ****!


Holy **** I gotta replay this **** once the replay hits youtube.
I was shaking with his words, and he hit great points perfectly.
The best political campaign oration I've ever heard, and I'm 43 and have heard at least 500 of them over that time.
Hitler himself would be like 'goddamn Trump is good!'


Yes, and that's putting it mildly.
I've heard some powerful speeches from Trump before but holy **** this made me feel like I was getting high as **** off of it.
I've listened to some of the most powerful speeches in history and this is right up there with anything ever in terms of intense strong positive energy.
Trump has been strong before, but he's never been this powerful.
I think he's finally found the utmost energy he needs.
If he can keep giving speeches this powerful, he will rock the world.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Bu4JfEC44ZrKo/200_s.gif

You forgot to say no homo. ;)

CalmWind
04-28-2016, 11:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yAFC7PQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UhxK60l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pcO71ZL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4PxrOwa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RGsZ6i9.jpg

dysenterygary
04-28-2016, 11:01 PM
^ savage scum

lalaland86
04-28-2016, 11:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yAFC7PQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UhxK60l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pcO71ZL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4PxrOwa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RGsZ6i9.jpg

If they fukkin love mexico so much they should rejoice in the fact that we will be sending their ass back!

LukeLissen
04-28-2016, 11:15 PM
[img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/Bu4JfEC44ZrKo/200_s.gif[/im

You forgot to say no homo. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFPqsxgimWM

XFPqsxgimWM








just watch the speech and join the winning team

Hercegovac8
04-28-2016, 11:16 PM
Stark contrast, over 31,000 (probably way more outside as well) Trump supporters came, had a good time, and left, yet just a few hundred anti Trump protesters basically burned down the whole street and everyone in it.

Watch the media spin this as Trump fostering a violent environment...

wickedman
04-28-2016, 11:26 PM
Wish I was at that one, good speech, great crowd. I'm def going to hit one on the Presidential election circuit. They really cut the black guy off at the beginning telling his story about his son on the news channels? How pathetic. If one American dies b/c of illegal immigration / mass refugee immigration it is 100% not worth it.

Nice to see the tolerant left at it again BTW. Still waiting for the videos/images of Trump supporters destroying property / attacking police to come about.

EDIT: LMAO that guy doing the donuts is an American hero.

Mulyark
04-28-2016, 11:49 PM
I wonder how many criminal gang members decided to "have a little fun" at the Trump rally?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChLvxqzUUAAxQBx.jpg:large

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChLvz1gUUAM0cIH.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChLhFp1U4AARDrQ.jpg



Makes me wish I had a .50 caliber Vulcan aimed at those vermin.

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 12:02 AM
I wonder how many criminal gang members decided to "have a little fun" at the Trump rally?




Makes me wish I had a .50 caliber Vulcan aimed at those vermin.

now now, relax, you need to learn some tolerance...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juUJdzFFORs


juUJdzFFORs

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 12:12 AM
Are the liberals in the media literally retarded? Or do they know what they are doing?

Do they actually believe the Trump supporters are the angrier and more violent group than the Trump haters?

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 12:15 AM
Are the liberals in the media literally retarded? Or do they know what they are doing?

Do they actually believe the Trump supporters are the angrier and more violent group than the Trump haters?

It doesn't make sense until we can talk about whats really going on.

dimitriy
04-29-2016, 02:45 AM
Anti-trade... can't get past the anti-trade platform

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 03:04 AM
Anti-trade... can't get past the anti-trade platform
He is pro-trade. He is anti-stupid trade

Eugenics
04-29-2016, 03:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/yAFC7PQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UhxK60l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pcO71ZL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4PxrOwa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RGsZ6i9.jpg


If you dont support Trump this is what you support. FACT.

Deal with it liberals.

LargePeter
04-29-2016, 03:43 AM
Cliffs ?


https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3571/6825/original.jpg

Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.....

HoganIsGOAT
04-29-2016, 04:52 AM
Protestors are attacking Trump supporters in their cars.

One Trump supporter decided to fight back and do donuts in circles around the protestors.

nXpJXKCUiHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpJXKCUiHc

This is ****in' awesome.

JoshSP1985
04-29-2016, 05:37 AM
Trying to watch the speech and the sound is all ****ed up out of sync can't get it to work

Kodiak Bear
04-29-2016, 05:41 AM
Man that was DEVASTATING..!!.. :D he makes it look easy cuz hes just tapped into the collective energy that represents the problem and just speak from the heart against it, you can't go wrong... no teleprompter necessary just put energy

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 06:15 AM
Trying to watch the speech and the sound is all ****ed up out of sync can't get it to work

Yep just checked and you're right.

The other video that was up last night was working but apparently got corrupted.

I posted a properly working one in the OP.

aranadiscoteca
04-29-2016, 06:24 AM
Just started watching. Fuk its like a rock show.

I'm half way through Jameel's dad talking, damn that story is so tragic. Why does no one else talk about it?

It is an absolute fuking disgrace.

Could Jameel not have bee Obama's son?

JoshSP1985
04-29-2016, 06:29 AM
Just started watching. Fuk its like a rock show.

I'm half way through Jameel's dad talking, damn that story is so tragic. Why does no one else talk about it?

It is an absolute fuking disgrace.

Could Jameel not have bee Obama's son?

I'm like halfway through the whole speech yea that Jameel part was rough.

JoshSP1985
04-29-2016, 06:32 AM
Lmao the spin the cameras part is hilarious

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 06:57 AM
Anti-trade... can't get past the anti-trade platform

So sorry that you can't buy some chit plastic trinket for 20% less at Walmart when American big business is forced to stop outsourcing work to 14yo girls in Vietnamese sweatshops.

Either stop consuming so much unneeded chit or get on board for paying a little more so that your neighbors, community and countrymen have jobs.

FFailed
04-29-2016, 07:36 AM
nXpJXKCUiHc

HIGH... ENERGY!!!

The only thing that could make that more epic is if he had "america **** yeah" playing from his radio at max volume while doing this

Uncle-Phil
04-29-2016, 07:40 AM
Holy chit.

I usually get bored with speeches. Awesome speech by trump.

Liking trump more and more everyday.

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 07:43 AM
Protestors are attacking Trump supporters in their cars.

One Trump supporter decided to fight back and do donuts in circles around the protestors.

nXpJXKCUiHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpJXKCUiHc


OMG LMAO I was laughing so hard I almost passed out. I was showing my stepdad and he just about broke his back laughing.


OMG so ****ing hilarious!


That guy wins the donut of the week award!

Fahnestock
04-29-2016, 07:45 AM
Lmao the spin the cameras part is hilarious

He absolutely savages the media every time. Top story on Politico is some butthurt kid straight out of school that wrote a 4 page article on how Trump is mean to him and his colleagues.

Rolling
04-29-2016, 07:50 AM
This one has good sound, no echo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CR1OaQ7Lro

DaHipsterDoofus
04-29-2016, 07:56 AM
The protesting is amazing. Lets be honest these protest do nothing but help Trump lmfao these morons are so fukcing stupid they don't even realize this.


MORE FREE PRESS, MORE ANTI-TRUMPERS LOOKING LIKE RETARDS, HIGHER SPEEDS, LESS BRAKES!!!!

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 07:57 AM
OMG LMAO I was laughing so hard I almost passed out. I was showing my stepdad and he just about broke his back laughing.


OMG so ****ing hilarious!


That guy wins the donut of the week award!

Check this view, you can see the guys he is going after:

qjJIpnuuYlA

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 08:31 AM
Finally getting around to this, still listening to Jamiel's father... powerful stuff. A shame that FOX cut away when he decided to speak.

aranadiscoteca
04-29-2016, 08:39 AM
Holy chit.

I usually get bored with speeches. Awesome speech by trump.

Liking trump more and more everyday.
How can you not like him?

Seriously I challenge any of his detractors to watch a Trump rally. The guy is so damn likable ad he speaks a lot of sense.

Check this view, you can see the guys he is going after:

[youtube]qjJIpnuuYlA[youtube]

That is awesome. Just a shame he didn't hit anyone (semisrs)

Anyone else find it utterly dispicable that their are so many foreign (Mexican) flags being used to protest a US presidential candidate? The image it sends is appalling. If you hate US politics so much and love Mexico go home.

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 08:57 AM
How can you not like him?

Seriously I challenge any of his detractors to watch a Trump rally. The guy is so damn likable ad he speaks a lot of sense.


That is awesome. Just a shame he didn't hit anyone (semisrs)

Anyone else find it utterly dispicable that their are so many foreign (Mexican) flags being used to protest a US presidential candidate? The image it sends is appalling. If you hate US politics so much and love Mexico go home.

Mexican "americans" are the most racist, and most xenophobic group in this country. I have visited many college towns in my years to party, and almost every party I went to was color blind. We didn't care what race you were, just come have a good time, challenge us to beer pong whatever.

But what I consistently found were that the hispanic students called their parties, "Mexican parties" and were not at all welcoming to white students coming to have a good time. They are the most racist group in this country.

TheCaptainA
04-29-2016, 09:28 AM
just now watching it...man that story, i could probably turn some of my extremely liberal people over to Trump on Jameel story alone

strangusernam3
04-29-2016, 09:31 AM
Holy **** I gotta replay this **** once the replay hits youtube.

I was shaking with his words, and he hit great points perfectly.

The best political campaign oration I've ever heard, and I'm 43 and have heard at least 500 of them over that time.

Hitler himself would be like 'goddamn Trump is good!'

im a die hard trump supporter

but noone comes close to hitler


hitler was god among men with speeches.

StiffSproles
04-29-2016, 09:32 AM
2NITRphE07Q

BigDawg69
04-29-2016, 09:46 AM
just now watching it...man that story, i could probably turn some of my extremely liberal people over to Trump on Jameel story alone
part where he broke his hand pounding the sidewalk when he found his son hit me hard

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 10:01 AM
im a die hard trump supporter

but noone comes close to hitler


hitler was god among men with speeches.

You're right.

Hitler did some of the worst things ever in humanity...

But one thing that cannot be denied is that he had an extraordinarily exceptional, powerful speaking ability like we've never seen before or since.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 10:05 AM
To be honest, I thought this thread was just more of Luke's drunken hyperbole. But now I might actually believe that he was sober while watching this.

This was a phenomenal performance. I won't call it oratory excellence in the sense that Trump delivered rhetorical brilliance, but he certainly put on a performance that might well be considered historically memorable.

That crowd... I did not expect that out of California. Excellent.

Boxman
04-29-2016, 10:06 AM
Anti-trade... can't get past the anti-trade platform

How can you accuse a successful international businessman of being "anti-trade".

Trump's position all along has been against unfair trade agreements that do nothing but impoverish the workers on both sides of the equation (both US workers and their foreign counterparts) while enriching the corporate class on both sides.

Even if you don't give a damn about the American worker, you're fooling yourself if you think NAFTA did anything for Mexico's working class. The TPP will be no different. It will make US and Chinese tycoons richer but will screw workers in both countries just as NAFTA did.

JD805
04-29-2016, 10:30 AM
How can you accuse a successful international businessman of being "anti-trade".

Trump's position all along has been against unfair trade agreements that do nothing but impoverish the workers on both sides of the equation (both US workers and their foreign counterparts) while enriching the corporate class on both sides.

Even if you don't give a damn about the American worker, you're fooling yourself if you think NAFTA did anything for Mexico's working class. The TPP will be no different. It will make US and Chinese tycoons richer but will screw workers in both countries just as NAFTA did.


No it hasn't you idiot. After NAFTA passed there was an economic boom.

http://i.imgur.com/i5jYIhn.jpg

They've also done research on it and the vast majority of people agree that it was a good thing. Read up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/the-best-decade-ever-the-1990s-obviously.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_United_States_boom

If you want to complain about something then complain about getting into two wars and the housing market crash that caused the recession. I swear you trump nut huggers will believe anything without doing your own research.

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 10:33 AM
No it hasn't you idiot. After NAFTA passed there was an economic boom.

http://i.imgur.com/i5jYIhn.jpg

They've also done research on it and the vast majority of people agree that it was a good thing. Read up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/the-best-decade-ever-the-1990s-obviously.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_United_States_boom

If you want to complain about something then complain about getting into two wars and the housing market crash that caused the recession. I swear you trump nut huggers will believe anything without doing your own research.

Growth in GDP =/= growth, jobs and higher wages for the middle/working class. When will you morons finally figure this out?

Maybe you should look where the last twenty years of wealth has been concentrated...(hint, check out corporate profits)

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 10:33 AM
No it hasn't you idiot. After NAFTA passed there was an economic boom.

http://i.imgur.com/i5jYIhn.jpg

They've also done research on it and the vast majority of people agree that it was a good thing. Read up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/the-best-decade-ever-the-1990s-obviously.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_United_States_boom

If you want to complain about something then complain about getting into two wars and the housing market crash that caused the recession. I swear you trump nut huggers will believe anything without doing your own research.

Info graphic.

NY Times.

Wikipedia.

Argument over, Boxman.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 10:35 AM
Fitting you should bring that up Effoart. I was only reading earlier from the, ironically globalist sell-out, The Economist about the failure of GDP to measure just about... well... anything:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21697845-gross-domestic-product-gdp-increasingly-poor-measure-prosperity-it-not-even

JD805
04-29-2016, 10:38 AM
Info graphic.

NY Times.

Wikipedia.

Argument over, Boxman.

I understand that reading can be very difficult for you morons but if you actually read what was in the article you would know why NAFTA wasn't bad despite what trump has told you. If you want more links here you go.

http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_viewpoints_l-t_growth_lessons/

http://www.ibrc.indiana.edu/ibr/2002/fall02/fall02_art4.html

To further prove my point I posted a picture of our debt at that time. We had a surplus because our economy was growing and we were fiscally conservative. Then thing went down right around 2001 when the war Afghanistan started followed by the war in Iraq. This also doesn't take into account the housing market crash that got us deeper into debt.


Try harder phaggot.

JD805
04-29-2016, 10:41 AM
Fitting you should bring that up Effoart. I was only reading earlier from the, ironically globalist sell-out, The Economist about the failure of GDP to measure just about... well... anything:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21697845-gross-domestic-product-gdp-increasingly-poor-measure-prosperity-it-not-even

lol weak ass argument. Here is another article that proves NAFTA didn't hurt the middle class.


http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20080827/

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/31/nyregion/in-90-s-economy-middle-class-stayed-put-analysis-suggests.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.ibrc.indiana.edu/ibr/2002/fall02/fall02_art4.html


lol at you

Edit: Added two more because you would have b*ched about me only using one.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 10:45 AM
lol weak ass argument. Here is another article that proves NAFTA didn't hurt the middle class.


http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20080827/

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/31/nyregion/in-90-s-economy-middle-class-stayed-put-analysis-suggests.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.ibrc.indiana.edu/ibr/2002/fall02/fall02_art4.html


lol at you

Edit: Added two more because you would have b*ched about me only using one.

Except that I know you haven't read a single one of those which is why you never actually make an argument. You just post links and infographics. Google Warrior of peace.

I see the article The Economist just posted today has rustled the absolute fuk out of your jimmies though. Tell me again about how that wholesome figure that can't even measure the third letter of its own acronym is a reflective of how well people live in an actual society.

Even TE makes the argument that manufacturing itself is becoming obsolete. You could've hinged on that, which would support your own narrative. But let's face it... You don't care about any of that. You're a drop-kick with no hopes of any type of future and you probably don't have any family or future relatives to ever care about either.

You're done for. Just die.

JD805
04-29-2016, 10:47 AM
Except that I know you haven't read a single one of those which is why you never actually make an argument. You just post links and infographics. Google Warrior of peace.

I see the article The Economist just posted today has rustled the absolute fuk out of your jimmies though. Tell me again about how that wholesome figure that can't even measure the third letter of its own acronym is a reflective of how well people live in an actual society.

Actually I did the articles. That's just an excuse for you to keep believing the lies trump tells you.

Here's the part that proves you're full of chit kid.

In fact, over the 1990s (1989-2000) median income was up almost 10%, or about $5,200. Had this 10% growth rate prevailed in the 2000s, the median income of working-age households would have gone up $3,600 instead of falling $2,000.

That's from the first article. The other articles back it up. Stay mad.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 10:50 AM
Actually I did the articles. That's just an excuse for you to keep believing the lies trump tells you.

Here's the part that proves you're full of chit kid.

In fact, over the 1990s (1989-2000) median income was up almost 10%, or about $5,200. Had this 10% growth rate prevailed in the 2000s, the median income of working-age households would have gone up $3,600 instead of falling $2,000.

That's from the first article. The other articles back it up. Stay mad.

Be honest, what do you think this is saying?

JD805
04-29-2016, 10:53 AM
Be honest, what do you think this is saying?

For several years we saw job growth and our economy expanded. What happened in 2001 and the several years after that ? two wars and a housing market crash. That gut us into trillions of debt and crippled our economy. If you can't see that then there's no help for you.

SugarFree1
04-29-2016, 10:54 AM
For several years we saw job growth and our economy expanded. What happened in 2001 and the several years after that ? two wars and a housing market crash. That gut us into trillions of debt and crippled our economy. If you can't see that then there's no help for you.

Wars usually create jobs

Sakeoe
04-29-2016, 10:54 AM
the audio quality is horrible. Anyone got a better link without super echo?

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 10:55 AM
Actually I did the articles. That's just an excuse for you to keep believing the lies trump tells you.

Here's the part that proves you're full of chit kid.

In fact, over the 1990s (1989-2000) median income was up almost 10%, or about $5,200. Had this 10% growth rate prevailed in the 2000s, the median income of working-age households would have gone up $3,600 instead of falling $2,000.

That's from the first article. The other articles back it up. Stay mad.

You're a complete goober clown that can't even put 2+2 together. First, look into the concept of economic lag time and figure out how this ties into NAFTA being signed into law on Jan 1, 1994.

Second, look at the sectors where the majority of the 90s "job growth" were...retail and services. If you understood anything about labor statistics you'd realize that retail and services jobs are the legit bottom barrel of jobs, where most offer chit pay, chit to no benefits and chit hours.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 10:59 AM
For several years we saw job growth and our economy expanded. What happened in 2001 and the several years after that ? two wars and a housing market crash. That gut us into trillions of debt and crippled our economy. If you can't see that then there's no help for you.

So what you're saying is that you don't actually know what you're talking about. At all.

Got it. Friendly reminder to all who read this man's posts.

JD805
04-29-2016, 10:59 AM
Wars usually create jobs

They usually create jobs for those who make bullets, artillery, etc but not so much in the private sector. On top of that we didn't increase taxes to help pay for the two wars.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/study-iraq-afghan-war-costs-to-top-4-trillion/2013/03/28/b82a5dce-97ed-11e2-814b-063623d80a60_story.html




You're a complete goober clown that can't even put 2+2 together. First, look into the concept of economic lag time and figure out how this ties into NAFTA being signed into law on Jan 1, 1994.

Second, look at the sectors where the majority of the 90s "job growth" were...retail and services. If you understood anything about labor statistics you'd realize that retail and services jobs are the legit bottom barrel of jobs, where most offer chit pay, chit to no benefits and chit hours.

Hmm seven plus years later and our economy was still increasing right up until 2001. Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what happened in 2001, what could it possibly be. Did we get into a war or something ? maybe two ? wasn't there like a housing market crash on top of that ?


Try harder kid, read the articles then come back.

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:00 AM
So what you're saying is that you don't actually know what you're talking about. At all.

Got it. Friendly reminder to all who read this man's posts.

I just explained it to you and you didn't even bothered to read it. This is more proof that you trump nut huggers hate facts and the truth.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 11:04 AM
I just explained it to you and you didn't even bothered to read it. This is more proof that you trump nut huggers hate facts and the truth.

Oh, I know. You explained it mightily well. Just not what you think you did.


Median income of pay grew between 1989 and 1999. NAFTA was a success. I'm a genius. Hurr Durr Durr.

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 11:06 AM
Hmm seven plus years later and our economy was still increasing right up until 2001. Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what happened in 2001, what could it possibly be. Did we get into a war or something ? maybe two ? wasn't there like a housing market crash on top of that ?


Try harder kid, read the articles then come back.

Sorry clown, I did read them, and they proved my point. Once again, look up economic lag since you clearly have a rudimentary understanding of economics.

I also hate it when you goobers use labor statistics and don't understand anything about them except the first level herp derp idea of "jobs go up" or "jobs go down". For the love of God, please go on the Bureau of Labor Statistics and read into what the different jobs sectors entail. The site offers an extremely granular breakdown of each sector, including the types of jobs in each sector, average weekly and annual pay for those jobs and average weekly hours worked for those jobs. Maybe it'll actually click for you and you can start to figure out what "good job growth" and "bad job growth" comprises.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 11:20 AM
What JiantDumbass also fails to account for is the shift of the market place and the impact that is has on people's lives. Just because 5,000 people like his Purple Haired lesbian friend, managed to get a $25 per hour marketing job in Socialist Seattle, doesn't mean that the 3,000 people earning $21 per hour in rural Indiana who've only ever worked with their hands can suddenly retool their life abilities and move to upstate New York.

Sowell is one of my great idols in regard to people I look up to but at some point the data has to consider the individual, and it rarely, if ever does. Sowell does a better job than most at accounting for the individual but even on this aspect he doesn't, because he can't. Somebody that has spent a lifetime making a career in one trade or industry can't just suddenly mutate into a man of excellence in another. it just does not happen. With aging populations like those in the West it becomes increasingly difficult to do that.

People like JD won't ever understand this because quite frankly they probably won't ever have jobs, other than working as a shill and using Google search forms.

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:24 AM
Oh, I know. You explained it mightily well. Just not what you think you did.

Nice try but try harder. It's sad that you can't even come up with an argument. I should have known better tho you're a trump supporter.

HoganIsGOAT
04-29-2016, 11:25 AM
Lots of young Latinos, who are probably illegal, are protesting and blocking the street in California, trying to prevent Trump from coming through to speak to the California GOP.

Here we go again. These people MUST go. This is simply out of control.

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:25 AM
Sorry clown, I did read them, and they proved my point. Once again, look up economic lag since you clearly have a rudimentary understanding of economics.

I also hate it when you goobers use labor statistics and don't understand anything about them except the first level herp derp idea of "jobs go up" or "jobs go down". For the love of God, please go on the Bureau of Labor Statistics and read into what the different jobs sectors entail. The site offers an extremely granular breakdown of each sector, including the types of jobs in each sector, average weekly and annual pay for those jobs and average weekly hours worked for those jobs. Maybe it'll actually click for you and you can start to figure out what "good job growth" and "bad job growth" comprises.

No you didn't and if you did please point out the part where they were wrong. Your only argument is that there was lag and we didn't get to see it's true effects lol that's about the weakest argument there is. The articles clearly stated the the middle class income was growing. That in itself should tell you NAFTA wasn't bad. Try harder.

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 11:29 AM
Lots of young Latinos, who are probably illegal, are protesting and blocking the street in California, trying to prevent Trump from coming through to speak to the California GOP.

Here we go again. These people MUST go. This is simply out of control.

My view on mass deportations changed significantly last night. Did a complete misc 360.

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 11:35 AM
No you didn't and if you did please point out the part where they were wrong. Your only argument is that there was lag and we didn't get to see it's true effects lol that's about the weakest argument there is. The articles clearly stated the the middle class income was growing. That in itself should tell you NAFTA wasn't bad. Try harder.

You're so stupid that you honestly think that NAFTA gets signed into law on January 1st 1994 and BOOOOOOM...January 2nd 1994 jobs and wages start to grow?

You clearly know nothing about economics, corporate business cycles or operations. In 1994 operations/logistics were way less efficient than they are today and at MINIMUM it would have taken a big business two years to start taking advantage of NAFTA. Then the effects of that change wouldn't hit the fiscal economy until another year at MINIMUM after the changes have taken place.

You just keep outing yourself as ignorant.

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:39 AM
You're so stupid that you honestly think that NAFTA gets signed into law on January 1st 1994 and BOOOOOOM...January 2nd 1994 jobs and wages start to grow?

You clearly know nothing about economics, corporate business cycles or operations. In 1994 operations/logistics were way less efficient than they are today and at MINIMUM it would have taken a big business two years to start taking advantage of NAFTA. Then the effects of that change wouldn't hit the fiscal economy until another year at MINIMUM after the changes have taken place.

You just keep outing yourself as ignorant.

1. No my point is that after NAFTA passed and several years after it had passed the economy wasn't affected and if anything it grew along with the middle class income. Do you understand that ? pay attention kid.

2. Yeah I know nothing about economics lol. You're saying it would take two years for there to be any effect but the economy was still growing even after those two years. STRONG everything.

3. Try harder kid this time try backing up your claims. I have tons and tons of links that will prove my point.

TheFornicator1
04-29-2016, 11:41 AM
What JiantDumbass also fails to account for is the shift of the market place and the impact that is has on people's lives. Just because 5,000 people like his Purple Haired lesbian friend, managed to get a $25 per hour marketing job in Socialist Seattle, doesn't mean that the 3,000 people earning $21 per hour in rural Indiana who've only ever worked with their hands can suddenly retool their life abilities and move to upstate New York.

Sowell is one of my great idols in regard to people I look up to but at some point the data has to consider the individual, and it rarely, if ever does. Sowell does a better job than most at accounting for the individual but even on this aspect he doesn't, because he can't. Somebody that has spent a lifetime making a career in one trade or industry can't just suddenly mutate into a man of excellence in another. it just does not happen. With aging populations like those in the West it becomes increasingly difficult to do that.

People like JD won't ever understand this because quite frankly they probably won't ever have jobs, other than working as a shill and using Google search forms.

Must've missed this

EDIT:

Thanks Luke, I'll try to stay awake to watch this.

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 11:42 AM
1. No my point is that after NAFTA passed and several years after it had passed the economy wasn't affected and if anything it grew along with the middle class income. Do you understand that ? pay attention kid.

2. Yeah I know nothing about economics lol. You're saying it would take two years for there to be any effect but the economy was still growing even after those two years. STRONG everything.

3. Try harder kid this time try backing up your claims. I have tons and tons of links that will prove my point.

LOL at internet tough guy with his links.

1) NAFTA had nothing to do with the growth of the 90s.
2) JD805 doesn't understand the meaning of the word MINIMUM or that 2 years + 1 year = 3 years at a MINIMUM.
3) GDP growth does not necessarily mean growth for the lower/middle class. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:45 AM
LOL at internet tough guy with his links.

1) NAFTA had nothing to do with the growth of the 90s.
2) JD805 doesn't understand the meaning of the word MINIMUM or that 2 years + 1 year = 3 years at a MINIMUM.
3) GDP growth does not necessarily mean growth for the lower/middle class. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

1. Prove your point smart one. The fact that you're even suggesting otherwise would contradict your own argument that NAFTA shipped a lot of jobs overseas or that it was a bad. LOL

2. You clearly don't understand how even after 3 years and well above that the economy was still booming and that the median income for the middle class was still growing.

3. The article made it very clear that the middle class was still growing and I made the point that our economy was healthy at that time because we got out of debt.

4. You didn't provide any evidence so I'll wait here while you try really hard and desperately to prove your point.

StiffSproles
04-29-2016, 11:48 AM
1. Prove your point smart one. The fact that you're even suggesting otherwise would contradict your own argument that NAFTA shipped a lot of jobs overseas or that it was a bad. LOL

2. You clearly don't understand how even after 3 years and well above that the economy was still booming and that the median income for the middle class was still growing.

3. The article made it very clear that the middle class was still growing and I made the point that our economy was healthy at that time because we got out of debt.

4. You didn't provide any evidence so I'll wait here while you try really hard and desperately to prove your point.

This guy is just replying for the sake of replying lol.

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:49 AM
This guy is just replying for the sake of replying lol.

Me ? so far I've been providing facts and slapping fools with logic. You're more than welcome to try but I know you can't prove me wrong :). Keep chugging down that kool aid.

EffortPoaster
04-29-2016, 11:53 AM
1. Prove your point smart one. The fact that you're even suggesting otherwise would contradict your own argument that NAFTA shipped a lot of jobs overseas or that it was a bad. LOL

2. You clearly don't understand how even after 3 years and well above that the economy was still booming and that the median income for the middle class was still growing.

3. The article made it very clear that the middle class was still growing and I made the point that our economy was healthy at that time because we got out of debt.

4. You didn't provide any evidence so I'll wait here while you try really hard and desperately to prove your point.

Holy chit you're stupid.

JD805
04-29-2016, 11:55 AM
Holy chit you're stupid.

Holy chit you haven't provided any evidence to prove your point.

Rolling
04-29-2016, 11:55 AM
Why do they have Mexican flags LOL

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 11:57 AM
Why do they have Mexican flags LOL

because they love mexico, and hate america, they are just here for the money.

JD805
04-29-2016, 12:22 PM
because they love mexico, and hate america, they are just here for the money.

No stupid. It's not different than seeing an Italian flag and on top of that California along with the south west has always had a strong Mexican influence. Nice try tho.

StiffSproles
04-29-2016, 12:25 PM
No stupid. It's not different than seeing an Italian flag and on top of that California along with the south west has always had a strong Mexican influence. Nice try tho.

No difference. Both are the same breed of retard.

JD805
04-29-2016, 12:25 PM
No difference. Both are the same breed of retard.

No, there's nothing wrong with displaying pride in your heritage especially for Mexicans.

aranadiscoteca
04-29-2016, 12:34 PM
No, there's nothing wrong with displaying pride in your heritage especially for Mexicans.
No but using it to protest against the country you are in is scandalous.

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 12:39 PM
No stupid. It's not different than seeing an Italian flag and on top of that California along with the south west has always had a strong Mexican influence. Nice try tho.

You love to call people names. I promise I outperformed you in college.

JD805
04-29-2016, 12:44 PM
You love to call people names. I promise I outperformed you in college.

Why do you complain about calling people names ? did it hurt your little feelings ?

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 12:51 PM
Why do you complain about calling people names ? did it hurt your little feelings ?

Just pointing out the weakness of your character. Only the weak the stupid and the ignorant consistently resort to name calling.

JD805
04-29-2016, 12:53 PM
Just pointing out the weakness of your character. Only the weak the stupid and the ignorant consistently resort to name calling.

WOW you're really stupid. You can't seem to connect the dots. Trump does it all the time, I guess you believe he's weak, stupid and ignorant. Damn, you're soooo "smart" lol

scheal
04-29-2016, 01:09 PM
No, there's nothing wrong with displaying pride in your heritage especially for Mexicans.


If they love their country so much they could always **** back to where they were born.

We should be like the Philippines, if any illegal takes part in a Political protest they are automatically kicked out, never to return.

JD805
04-29-2016, 01:10 PM
If they love their country so much they could always **** back to where they were born.

We should be like the Philippines, if any illegal takes part in a Political protest they are automatically kicked out, never to return.

That's the thing, a lot of Americans in that area are of Mexican decent, it's California. The border literally crossed them. Why would they leave if that's where they've always lived ?

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 01:18 PM
No it hasn't you idiot. After NAFTA passed there was an economic boom.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/i5jYIhn.jpg[/im

They've also done research on it and the vast majority of people agree that it was a good thing. Read up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/the-best-decade-ever-the-1990s-obviously.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_United_States_boom

If you want to complain about something then complain about getting into two wars and the housing market crash that caused the recession. I swear you trump nut huggers will believe anything without doing your own research.


I understand that reading can be very difficult for you morons but if you actually read what was in the article you would know why NAFTA wasn't bad despite what trump has told you. If you want more links here you go.

http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_viewpoints_l-t_growth_lessons/

http://www.ibrc.indiana.edu/ibr/2002/fall02/fall02_art4.html

To further prove my point I posted a picture of our debt at that time. We had a surplus because our economy was growing and we were fiscally conservative. Then thing went down right around 2001 when the war Afghanistan started followed by the war in Iraq. This also doesn't take into account the housing market crash that got us deeper into debt.


Try harder phaggot.


lol weak ass argument. Here is another article that proves NAFTA didn't hurt the middle class.


http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20080827/

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/31/nyregion/in-90-s-economy-middle-class-stayed-put-analysis-suggests.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.ibrc.indiana.edu/ibr/2002/fall02/fall02_art4.html


lol at you

Edit: Added two more because you would have b*ched about me only using one.


Actually I did the articles. That's just an excuse for you to keep believing the lies trump tells you.

Here's the part that proves you're full of chit kid.

In fact, over the 1990s (1989-2000) median income was up almost 10%, or about $5,200. Had this 10% growth rate prevailed in the 2000s, the median income of working-age households would have gone up $3,600 instead of falling $2,000.

That's from the first article. The other articles back it up. Stay mad.


For several years we saw job growth and our economy expanded. What happened in 2001 and the several years after that ? two wars and a housing market crash. That gut us into trillions of debt and crippled our economy. If you can't see that then there's no help for you.


They usually create jobs for those who make bullets, artillery, etc but not so much in the private sector. On top of that we didn't increase taxes to help pay for the two wars.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/study-iraq-afghan-war-costs-to-top-4-trillion/2013/03/28/b82a5dce-97ed-11e2-814b-063623d80a60_story.html





Hmm seven plus years later and our economy was still increasing right up until 2001. Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what happened in 2001, what could it possibly be. Did we get into a war or something ? maybe two ? wasn't there like a housing market crash on top of that ?


Try harder kid, read the articles then come back.


I just explained it to you and you didn't even bothered to read it. This is more proof that you trump nut huggers hate facts and the truth.


Nice try but try harder. It's sad that you can't even come up with an argument. I should have known better tho you're a trump supporter.


No you didn't and if you did please point out the part where they were wrong. Your only argument is that there was lag and we didn't get to see it's true effects lol that's about the weakest argument there is. The articles clearly stated the the middle class income was growing. That in itself should tell you NAFTA wasn't bad. Try harder.


1. No my point is that after NAFTA passed and several years after it had passed the economy wasn't affected and if anything it grew along with the middle class income. Do you understand that ? pay attention kid.

2. Yeah I know nothing about economics lol. You're saying it would take two years for there to be any effect but the economy was still growing even after those two years. STRONG everything.

3. Try harder kid this time try backing up your claims. I have tons and tons of links that will prove my point.


1. Prove your point smart one. The fact that you're even suggesting otherwise would contradict your own argument that NAFTA shipped a lot of jobs overseas or that it was a bad. LOL

2. You clearly don't understand how even after 3 years and well above that the economy was still booming and that the median income for the middle class was still growing.

3. The article made it very clear that the middle class was still growing and I made the point that our economy was healthy at that time because we got out of debt.

4. You didn't provide any evidence so I'll wait here while you try really hard and desperately to prove your point.


Me ? so far I've been providing facts and slapping fools with logic. You're more than welcome to try but I know you can't prove me wrong :). Keep chugging down that kool aid.


Holy chit you haven't provided any evidence to prove your point.


No stupid. It's not different than seeing an Italian flag and on top of that California along with the south west has always had a strong Mexican influence. Nice try tho.


No, there's nothing wrong with displaying pride in your heritage especially for Mexicans.


Why do you complain about calling people names ? did it hurt your little feelings ?


WOW you're really stupid. You can't seem to connect the dots. Trump does it all the time, I guess you believe he's weak, stupid and ignorant. Damn, you're soooo "smart" lol


That's the thing, a lot of Americans in that area are of Mexican decent, it's California. The border literally crossed them. Why would they leave if that's where they've always lived ?










awwww sug here you want your passy?


http://cdn2.momjunction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Baby%E2%80%99s-Pacifier-Habit.jpg

JD805
04-29-2016, 01:20 PM
awwww sug here you want your passy?


[img]http://cdn2.momjunction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Baby%E2%80%99s-Pacifier-Habit.jpg

Still waiting for someone to prove me wrong.

Oh wait it's Luke the one who spread lies that Soros was donating money to Kasich.

aranadiscoteca
04-29-2016, 01:24 PM
If they love their country so much they could always **** back to where they were born.

We should be like the Philippines, if any illegal takes part in a Political protest they are automatically kicked out, never to return.

illegals should be automatically kicked out anyway.

What really needs to happen is ICE should go to one of these protests and just round them all up and send them the hell back.

scheal
04-29-2016, 01:36 PM
illegals should be automatically kicked out anyway.

What really needs to happen is ICE should go to one of these protests and just round them all up and send them the hell back.

I was trying to be diplomatic but i agree. Too late and too soft, that's what we have become.

LudwigJ2
04-29-2016, 01:46 PM
amazing..waving Mexican flags and htting cars..animals..

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-anti-trump-protests-mexican-flag-20160429-story.html

RTone
04-29-2016, 01:47 PM
amazing..waving Mexican flags and htting cars..animals..

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-anti-trump-protests-mexican-flag-20160429-story.html

Someone should get a statement from Mexican officials on this, are Mexicans attacking the USA? Maybe Trump should get Mexico to round their people up

mCheech
04-29-2016, 01:48 PM
@JD805. Kasich is done man, get over it already.

showtime2389
04-29-2016, 01:51 PM
Still waiting for someone to prove me wrong.

Oh wait it's Luke the one who spread lies that Soros was donating money to Kasich.

kasich is done pablo. sit down

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 01:52 PM
@JD805. Kasich is done man, get over it already.


You're crazy! He has massive support!


... as a Lib-Globalist puppet




















http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc438/DELTUFFOIL/kasich_zpsurdwryf8.jpg

LudwigJ2
04-29-2016, 01:52 PM
Someone should get a statement from Mexican officials on this, are Mexicans attacking the USA? Maybe Trump should get Mexico to round their people up

Yeah its out of hand...they come here act like they deserve everything..

mCheech
04-29-2016, 01:55 PM
You're crazy! He has massive support!


... as a Lib-Globalist puppet




















http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc438/DELTUFFOIL/kasich_zpsurdwryf8.jpg

I just don't understand what people get out of coming on here and arguing for a candidate who has zero support against a person who has tons of it.

He knows he is not going to convince anyone otherwise, yet wastes hours and hours of time arguing. Hell, at least nolibs and goo get paid for it.

LukeLissen
04-29-2016, 02:15 PM
I just don't understand what people get out of coming on here and arguing for a candidate who has zero support against a person who has tons of it.

He knows he is not going to convince anyone otherwise, yet wastes hours and hours of time arguing. Hell, at least nolibs and goo get paid for it.

Its very simple....

The only people like that still pushing for Kasich of their own free will are Hillary and Sanders supporters.

Also, George Soros does in fact pay a large number of online shills. Hillary is Soros' choice.

southernwinds34
04-29-2016, 03:23 PM
Just started watching. Fuk its like a rock show.

I'm half way through Jameel's dad talking, damn that story is so tragic. Why does no one else talk about it?

It is an absolute fuking disgrace.

Could Jameel not have bee Obama's son?I'm not for using a young mans life as a push for political agenda, but since our own President did it with that bullchit over Trayvon and NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THIS DEATH IS SUCH BULLCHIT.

I can't wait to vote Trump in the GE.

TexasMajor
04-29-2016, 03:25 PM
Commander Trump hasn't even reached his final form you fools.

Skythes
04-29-2016, 03:55 PM
That's the thing, a lot of Americans in that area are of Mexican decent, it's California. The border literally crossed them. Why would they leave if that's where they've always lived ?

This is ethnic and nationalist sentiment within the borders of another country, which any sovereign state should be cautious of. Their lives are 1000% better than they would be if it was still mexico, and yet all they show is ingratitude and call for more freebies for their brothers and sisters who are in the country illegally or on their way.

scheal
04-29-2016, 04:12 PM
I just don't understand what people get out of coming on here and arguing for a candidate who has zero support against a person who has tons of it.



???? Are you serious?

He amassed like a 10% increase in his count after last Tuesday, he's on a roll. After California there's a chance he will have caught up with Rubio

JD805
04-29-2016, 04:34 PM
@JD805. Kasich is done man, get over it already.

I'm gonna support the best candidate not the one that blows the hardest.


kasich is done pablo. sit down

Hmmm and then you wonder why people think trump supporters are racist.


You're crazy! He has massive support!


... as a Lib-Globalist pupper

Sad, the only "argument" that you have is that he is not exciting but you can't say anything against his policies. He's also not a globalist considering that you were wrong about Soros. It's sad that retards like you think like that.





This is ethnic and nationalist sentiment within the borders of another country, which any sovereign state should be cautious of. Their lives are 1000% better than they would be if it was still mexico, and yet all they show is ingratitude and call for more freebies for their brothers and sisters who are in the country illegally or on their way.

This has nothing to do with like Mexico more than the US. Mexicans however are the only one's stigmatized over their flag but Italians can get away with it. I suggest you get over it.

dysenterygary
04-29-2016, 04:40 PM
I'm gonna support the best candidate not the one that blows the hardest.



Hmmm and then you wonder why people think trump supporters are racist.



Sad, the only "argument" that you have is that he is not exciting but you can't say anything against his policies. He's also not a globalist considering that you were wrong about Soros. It's sad that retards like you think like that.






This has nothing to do with like Mexico more than the US. Mexicans however are the only one's stigmatized over their flag but Italians can get away with it. I suggest you get over it.

sit down, pablo.

JD805
04-29-2016, 04:43 PM
sit down, pablo.

LOL at you saying you're not racist. Tsk tsk.

dysenterygary
04-29-2016, 04:46 PM
LOL at you saying you're not racist. Tsk tsk.

now I see your game. kasich/pablo 2016? nice try,
























































pablo.

JD805
04-29-2016, 04:48 PM
now I see your game. kasich/pablo 2016? nice try,

pablo.




You sound awfully concerned. Notice that none of you trump supporters could proved me wrong so now you're resorting to this. Come on try a bit harder I'm sure if you all got together and tried really hard you might come up with a half ass argument ;)

CalmWind
04-29-2016, 04:51 PM
You sound awfully concerned. Notice that none of you trump supporters could proved me wrong so now you're resorting to this. Come on try a bit harder I'm sure if you all got together and tried really hard you might come up with a half ass argument ;)

Are you related to this protester, JD805?

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JD805
04-29-2016, 04:52 PM
Are you related to this protester, JD805?

No but hey it's that Christian who doesn't follow the teachings of Christ.

CalmWind
04-29-2016, 04:57 PM
No

No? Did you get a good look?

She sounds and acts just like you, JD805. Anti-American sentiment and all.

JD805
04-29-2016, 04:59 PM
No? Did you get a good look?

She sounds and acts just like you, JD805. Anti-American sentiment and all.

Yep it's not me. Just because I know my US history unlike you doesn't mean that I don't love this country. Then again you're not very bright and your head can't process that.

dysenterygary
04-29-2016, 05:01 PM
the thing about pablo is he's not as stupid as he looks. he knows exactly how to exploit Christianity, altruism, good intentions etc. to advance his own interests.

this is why pablo is a phaggot.

CalmWind
04-29-2016, 05:05 PM
Yep it's not me. Just because I know my US history unlike you doesn't mean that I don't love this country. Then again you're not very bright and your head can't process that.

Do you know Spanish history too?

Because it was the White man, from Spain, who owned that land before Mexico existed. It was Spain who created the cities, roads, infrastructure, and modernized that land according to European civilization standards, centuries ago.

If Americans aren't allowed to claim victory through the War over Mexico..... then why are you allowed to claim Independence from Spain?

CalmWind
04-29-2016, 05:07 PM
the thing about pablo is he's not as stupid as he looks. he knows exactly how to exploit Christianity, altruism, good intentions etc. to advance his own interests.

this is why pablo is a phaggot.

The U.S. shot itself in the foot. The immigration policy has created a nation full of pockets of different cultures and ethnicities, that each have their own selfish interests.

The country is going to remain divided and fall.

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:15 PM
Do you know Spanish history too?

Because it was the White man, from Spain, who owned that land before Mexico existed. It was Spain who created the cities, roads, infrastructure, and modernized that land according to European civilization standards, centuries ago.

If Americans aren't allowed to claim victory through the War over Mexico..... then why are you allowed to claim Independence from Spain?

Strong christian logic right there. Do you know your history ? This isn't about claiming victory over Mexico this is about knowing your history. I know how upsetting that can be for you.

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 05:16 PM
Yep it's not me. Just because I know my US history unlike you doesn't mean that I don't love this country. Then again you're not very bright and your head can't process that.

What fcuking idiot this guy is.

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:17 PM
What fcuking idiot this guy is.

Hey there, didn't you contradict yourself earlier today ? you said people who use insults aren't smart and they're ignorant but here you are. LOL

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:18 PM
the thing about pablo is he's not as stupid as he looks. he knows exactly how to exploit Christianity, altruism, good intentions etc. to advance his own interests.

this is why pablo is a phaggot.

The funny thing is that you're stupider than you look. I know more about the bible and history than a lot of you so called Christians and you guys don't act very Christian. I guess Jesus was right about one thing, the path really is narrow. If there is a hell then a lot of you will end up there. Have fun :D

mydawgs
04-29-2016, 05:20 PM
Strong christian logic right there. Do you know your history ? This isn't about claiming victory over Mexico this is about knowing your history. I know how upsetting that can be for you.

What is Christian logic?

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:22 PM
What is Christian logic?

He claims to be a Christian but then goes on his rant about white supremacy etc. Over all I wouldn't say they rely on their logic.

Stizzel
04-29-2016, 05:27 PM
He claims to be a Christian but then goes on his rant about white supremacy etc. Over all I wouldn't say they rely on their logic.

Trump is going to win, and then you'll have to go back. Sorry bro

mydawgs
04-29-2016, 05:27 PM
He claims to be a Christian but then goes on his rant about white supremacy etc. Over all I wouldn't say they rely on their logic.

I would say if they are relying on their religion, they are relying on faith, which is the belief in something regardless of any evidence. That would defy logic....right?

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:30 PM
Trump is going to win, and then you'll have to go back. Sorry bro

Hmmm I'm an American and lol your trump logic.


I would say if they are relying on their religion, they are relying on faith, which is the belief in something regardless of any evidence. That would defy logic....right?

Hmmm for the most but then again his "logic" is flawed.

Stizzel
04-29-2016, 05:31 PM
Hmmm I'm an American and lol your trump logic.


Sure you are

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:33 PM
Sure you are

I know that your extra chromosome makes it difficult for you to understand this but believe it not just because someone doesn't agree with trump doesn't make him an illegal. The more you know :)

Skythes
04-29-2016, 05:34 PM
This has nothing to do with like Mexico more than the US. Mexicans however are the only one's stigmatized over their flag but Italians can get away with it. I suggest you get over it.

Fuking lol at you trying to equate angry illegals fresh over the fence demanding more freebies, to proud 4th generation+ Italian-Americans. Waving flags in an of itself is not an issue, if not for the context. but you already know that don't you? You are deliberately trying to hush this idea.

JD805
04-29-2016, 05:36 PM
Fuking lol at you trying to equate angry illegals fresh over the fence demanding more freebies, to proud 4th generation+ Italian-Americans. Waving flags in an of itself is not an issue, if not for the context. but you already know that don't you? You are deliberately trying to hush this idea.

This is what I am talking about there are Americans of Mexican decent that have been here for literally hundreds of years. I am not trying to hush the idea but you seem to pick and choose which group to hate. We either get rid of any flag that's not American or we just let it be.

MuscleXtreme
04-29-2016, 06:12 PM
LOL at you saying you're not racist. Tsk tsk.



Lol you're the guy who said that a black kid was a member of the Bloods, and thinks that all black people are gang bangers. Racist.

ghjk24
04-29-2016, 06:18 PM
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1461898693457.png

What a fukking cuck

"Fox made me" almost as bad as "my wife said I can't, sorry guys"

PSToolman
04-29-2016, 06:20 PM
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Psyllius
04-29-2016, 06:56 PM
Just watched the entire thing. Very strong speech and just lol at anyone that calls him a racist. Had people on stage that had family killed by illegals. Had the legal system worked, those family members would still be alive today.

Also lol at the savages outside the rally attacking police cars.

Stizzel
04-29-2016, 07:03 PM
I know that your extra chromosome makes it difficult for you to understand this but believe it not just because someone doesn't agree with trump doesn't make him an illegal. The more you know :)

I know that your extra chromosome makes it difficult for you to understand this but believe it not just because someone agrees with trump doesn't make him a racist. The more you know :)

JD805
04-29-2016, 07:06 PM
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I know that your extra chromosome makes it difficult for you to understand this but believe it not just because someone agrees with trump doesn't make him a racist. The more you know :)

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JD805
04-29-2016, 07:10 PM
Lol you're the guy who said that a black kid was a member of the Bloods, and thinks that all black people are gang bangers. Racist.

I also posted evidence of him being a gang member but please tell me more. So why aren't you complaining about Trayvon being murdered ?

MuscleXtreme
04-29-2016, 08:53 PM
I also posted evidence of him being a gang member but please tell me more. So why aren't you complaining about Trayvon being murdered ?



You posted absolutely no evidence. You posted a picture of a black kid in a hoodie. Not every black kid wearing a hoodie is a gang member. You're a racist. Racist.

Chelbull
04-29-2016, 10:39 PM
i self identify as a good christian

Skythes
04-29-2016, 11:38 PM
This is what I am talking about there are Americans of Mexican decent that have been here for literally hundreds of years. I am not trying to hush the idea but you seem to pick and choose which group to hate. We either get rid of any flag that's not American or we just let it be.

They are carrying signs saying 'America owes us' and 'This is our land' and similar slogans. It is clearly a different sentiment. Point is, in this situation they can choose American or Mexican and they have chosen Mexican. They can go back to Mexico then.

lalaland86
04-29-2016, 11:45 PM
time to send them home:

http://i.imgur.com/W2Y3EOn.gif

JD805
04-30-2016, 01:02 AM
You posted absolutely no evidence. You posted a picture of a black kid in a hoodie. Not every black kid wearing a hoodie is a gang member. You're a racist. Racist.

Here you go stupid.

/watch?v=Z8RwUXPrils

Jameel Shaw was affiliated with gang members in this case bloods and the person who killed him was from 18st. Bloods and 18st are rivals and it has nothing to do with race.

Why aren't you upset over the death of Trayvon ? smh and you call yourself a christian.


They are carrying signs saying 'America owes us' and 'This is our land' and similar slogans. It is clearly a different sentiment. Point is, in this situation they can choose American or Mexican and they have chosen Mexican. They can go back to Mexico then.

Those signs I don't agree with, there's a difference between knowing your history and then claiming what those signs say. Identifying as a Mexican can also be seen as an ethnicity not that different from some Americans identifying themselves as Germans or Italians.

LukeLissen
04-30-2016, 11:19 AM
If you didn't watch this speech, watch it.

You will see why Trump can nail it as President.

HoganIsGOAT
04-30-2016, 01:49 PM
Herman Cain: "These California protestors were paid to protest. They were offered free accommodation too."

LukeLissen
04-30-2016, 01:55 PM
Herman Cain: "These California protestors were paid to protest. They were offered free accommodation too."

Yes. The people who pay these guys to protest never leave easy tracks though, so it's extremely hard to bust them.

They did the same thing in Ferguson, Mo, and also on a bigger scale they did it to start the wars in Syria and Ukraine.

I know because I once supported them in Syria and Ukraine and I knew they were doing it but denied it.