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KingTrump2016
01-19-2016, 08:27 AM
Get this guy in office now!

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/trump-thumbs-up.jpg

leafs43
01-19-2016, 08:31 AM
What else is there to do?

If he says we are going to subsidize manufacturers the left will roll out and say Trump is giving 1%'ers tax breaks.

KingTrump2016
01-19-2016, 08:43 AM
What else is there to do?

If he says we are going to subsidize manufacturers the left will roll out and say Trump is giving 1%'ers tax breaks.

I dunno! I just know the price of made in china products is going up 35%!

http://media.salon.com/2015/07/donald_trump7.jpg

Jrd86
01-19-2016, 08:56 AM
I feel like op might be a troll. Anyways. Trump seems a bit protectionist. However, he is looking out for the american worker. It would be nice to have a president who did that. Not sure how realistic tbat tarrif would be tho.

Darkhare
01-19-2016, 09:05 AM
He needs to be running the show.

Capitalism can work, but not when corporations sell out to china

moksha16
01-19-2016, 09:23 AM
I feel like op might be a troll. Anyways. Trump seems a bit protectionist. However, he is looking out for the american worker. It would be nice to have a president who did that. Not sure how realistic tbat tarrif would be tho.

It would have been really nice if he did that before he was president instead of building his buildings with illegal labour and having his "trump" branded products made in china.

Fahnestock
01-19-2016, 09:25 AM
Most of his protectionist ideas are idiotic, but its genius politics especially if he runs against Clinton in the general.

Jrd86
01-19-2016, 09:32 AM
It would have been really nice if he did that before he was president instead of building his buildings with illegal labour and having his "trump" branded products made in china.if he does what he says he will, he can rectify it. Cant blane him for using the rules to his adcantage. As a CEO, he can only do so much. As POTUS, he can do a LOT more.

KingTrump2016
01-19-2016, 09:49 AM
I feel like op might be a troll. Anyways. Trump seems a bit protectionist. However, he is looking out for the american worker. It would be nice to have a president who did that. Not sure how realistic tbat tarrif would be tho.

Trolling? He said it. He says what he means. 35% tax.

stonesfan129
01-19-2016, 09:51 AM
The problem is kids will still buy their iPhones even with the 35% tax increase. Place a tariff on it.

Tete
01-19-2016, 10:04 AM
welp. so much for him being a capitalist

KingTrump2016
01-19-2016, 10:12 AM
The problem is kids will still buy their iPhones even with the 35% tax increase. Place a tariff on it.

My TiVo is made in China. Your cable modem is made in china. They will pass that 35% increase onto consumers.

Cant Stump The Trump.

JUSA
01-19-2016, 11:01 AM
I feel like op might be a troll. OP likes to play Devil's advocate, and to be honest I'll take snarky anti-Trump threads like this over the usual GOO-style, "If you disagree with me you are scum and you should die" style posts. He's at least making a point (Trump raising taxes != conservative typical value)

I don't mind if someone thinks Trump sucks, what bothers me is when people poo-poo Trump and consider anyone who supports him something negative (usually stupid or evil or whatever). If supporting Trump is so obviously stupid, great - make that argument. I've yet to see it.

And yeah, I firmly believe some of Trump's ideas are half-baked, he has many typically "liberal" positions on some issues, he's authoritarian and so on. I would never argue this is a perfect candidate without flaws, but it's hilarious to me how Trump's flaws somehow utterly discredit not just him but anyone who is even remotely favorable towards him, yet the same people who would do that would accept the pure unmitigated corruption and outright evil that is someone like either Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush.

I guess because we're used to horrible corruption, meaningless wars, ignoring thousands of civilians killed overseas, midnight pardons for cash, making $600,000 "giving speeches" for Goldman Sachs and being worth hundreds of millions without ever having much of a real job outside of politics. Somehow all that is fine and dandy but anything Trump does that is questionable somehow makes him the worse candidate.

With the OP, prices are to a point set by demand. Apple charges more than they should - because they can, people will pay for it. If the jobs were shifted back here or they were being taxed, I'm sure prices would rise some but at some point they'd have to cut into their massive profit margins or they'd lose market share and customers. So, that $500 iphone might not increase by $175. My guess is it'd go up $100 at first as they tested the reaction and eventually settle on being more like $575.

Forty0zFreedom
01-19-2016, 11:46 AM
Mind = blown when I see the left defending corporations outsourcing to avoid US taxes and trashing a candidate who wants to stop it.

ZenBowman
01-19-2016, 11:53 AM
Mind = blown when I see the left defending corporations outsourcing to avoid US taxes and trashing a candidate who wants to stop it.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-trade/

Mind = blown when I see the "right" defending protectionism and adopting a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren position on trade.

Renegade83
01-19-2016, 12:08 PM
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-trade/

Mind = blown when I see the "right" defending protectionism and adopting a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren position on trade.

But but SOCIALIST. Guess Trump is a Socialist too like Bernie since they share so many views.

RIKTER
01-19-2016, 12:15 PM
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-trade/

Mind = blown when I see the "right" defending protectionism and adopting a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren position on trade.

Because many realize that these beliefs, whether they be, free trade/capitalism/socialism, etc aren't applied in a vacuum and shouldn't be judged by that fictional criteria. There are real world applications that have real world consequences, one small one being 55,000 factories closing and 6 million American factory workers fired since 2000. One can look at socialism on paper and make some decent arguments for it...but apply it in the real world and ho lee fuk.

gachase21
01-19-2016, 12:38 PM
Well this is a bit troubling

metco
01-19-2016, 03:00 PM
Protectionism is appropriate when a country's trade advantage stems from artificially low wages. Chinese labor is so oppressed its Apple workers have to jump out windows, and Apple has installed "suicide nets."

http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss134/joeshwingding/suicidenets.jpg

ZenBowman
01-19-2016, 03:07 PM
Because many realize that these beliefs, whether they be, free trade/capitalism/socialism, etc aren't applied in a vacuum and shouldn't be judged by that fictional criteria. There are real world applications that have real world consequences, one small one being 55,000 factories closing and 6 million American factory workers fired since 2000. One can look at socialism on paper and make some decent arguments for it...but apply it in the real world and ho lee fuk.

I think it is fine to be skeptical of free trade, I'm just loling that Trumpsters think the left is pro-free trade.

The Clinton camp is pro-free trade, but listen to any progressive radio/TV and you will realize their position is 100% identical to Trump's. If anything, Trump is even further to the left of the average progressive on this.

holtmcg
01-19-2016, 03:10 PM
I think it is fine to be skeptical of free trade, I'm just loling that Trumpsters think the left is pro-free trade.

The Clinton camp is pro-free trade, but listen to any progressive radio/TV and you will realize their position is 100% identical to Trump's. If anything, Trump is even further to the left of the average progressive on this.That's because Trump is a staunch, staunch liberal.

ZenBowman
01-19-2016, 03:11 PM
That's because Trump is a staunch, staunch liberal.

I agree, and I think he actually believes he is doing what is best for the country.

holtmcg
01-19-2016, 03:17 PM
I agree, and I think he actually believes he is doing what is best for the country.Same. That's why if he runs vs Hillary, I'm voting for him (srs). That said, it's weird how he's a liberal running right, and she's a neocon running left. Never seen that before. Oh well.

JUSA
01-19-2016, 03:20 PM
But but SOCIALIST. Guess Trump is a Socialist too like Bernie since they share so many views. If people slowed down and ignored that they were polar opposites in style, they'd see their substance isn't as far apart as they make it.

RIKTER
01-19-2016, 03:21 PM
I think it is fine to be skeptical of free trade, I'm just loling that Trumpsters think the left is pro-free trade.

The Clinton camp is pro-free trade, but listen to any progressive radio/TV and you will realize their position is 100% identical to Trump's. If anything, Trump is even further to the left of the average progressive on this.

I don't really get caught up in describing it as a left/right issue. Protecting American jobs from coyotes(big business) from being able to mass scale in/out sourcing is in every Americans best interest.

KingTrump2016
01-20-2016, 06:29 AM
I don't really get caught up in describing it as a left/right issue. Protecting American jobs from coyotes(big business) from being able to mass scale in/out sourcing is in every Americans best interest.

There was a time in this country when it was considered cool to look out for american workers. Then came the 80's where the number one concern became Wall Street profits. Corporate pensions were raided, jobs were outsourced. Yeah it made money for Wall Street, but it screwed over blue collar workers. Suddenly it became cool to hate on hard working americans wanting a decent wage (a wage they used to be paid and companies did just fine)

I despise Trumps immigration policy, but dammit, the rest of his policies are effing awesome. Im voting for him. There is a reason the Republican and democratic establishment fear him: He has the charisma and the political will to do things and not give a crap about re-election or special interest groups. That makes him uncontrollable.

Alot of republicans despise wealth redistribution, but that is exactly what has happened with the shift in wealth to Wall Street during the 80's. A majority of that wealth went to company workers. They made a decent living, shareholders got an average return.

Trump will try to bring that back.