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jalundah
03-16-2015, 06:12 AM
Thoughts? Pretty daunting thing to say considering he's also played with Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan... And he didn't even hesitate.

Inb4 "5>2" let's please not turn this into a lebron thread

Carpig
03-16-2015, 06:24 AM
He is right. Hakeem was a more skilled player than any of those you mentioned.

sigcaroutfork
03-16-2015, 06:26 AM
he cant be the best if kobe and shaq both had more rings than hakeem srs

ClutchAnalyst
03-16-2015, 06:36 AM
Have you watched Hakeem's game videos?

I'd never doubt anyone saying that.

I underrated Hakeem a lot in the past wrongfully.

hoop84
03-16-2015, 06:48 AM
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sknot1454
03-16-2015, 06:55 AM
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and will absolutely bitch slap you, African style

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Thai_Clinch
03-16-2015, 07:01 AM
Thoughts? Pretty daunting thing to say considering he's also played with Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan... And he didn't even hesitate.

Inb4 "5>2" let's please not turn this into a lebron thread

Ive always been in the minority that The Dream was the most underrated player in NBA history. The guy was absolutely incredible on the court and when jordan was dominating, as soon as he stepped out, it was Hakeem that took over

sknot1454
03-16-2015, 07:14 AM
Ive always been in the minority that The Dream was the most underrated player in NBA history. The guy was absolutely incredible on the court and when jordan was dominating, as soon as he stepped out, it was Hakeem that took over

Averaged 37/16 and almost 3 blocks a game in the '88 playoffs.

Career:

9th in FGM
9th in offensive boards
7th in defensive boards
9th in steals
1st in blocks
12th in points
16th in PER
15th defensive rating
4th in defensive win shares
13th in VORP

Dude is arguably a top 10 all time player after the merger.

srom12
03-16-2015, 07:17 AM
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7'0" 260lbs.





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Dominik
03-16-2015, 07:52 AM
There's a reason why LeBron, Kobe, Dwight, Melo, etc. have all spent time working with him. They all put their egos aside to work with an absolute freak. No other big man could match his skill.

Watch what he did to David Robinson on the night he was awarded the MVP.

hW4uXlRGAF0

THEHEADLIN3R
03-16-2015, 07:57 AM
Not sure why anyone would find this surprising. Players have their opinions like anyone else and Hakeem is an all time great.

4567081110
03-16-2015, 07:59 AM
His body control was just ridiculous for a 7 footer.

Dominik
03-16-2015, 08:01 AM
If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him.

—Michael Jordan

TexasMajor
03-16-2015, 08:04 AM
Understandable, but debatable.


I take the opinion of a career role player a little less serious than say a Bird or Magic opinion.





















also, 5>2

Thai_Clinch
03-16-2015, 08:09 AM
If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him.

—Michael Jordan


No doubt about this. I'll argue to this day he is a top5, maybe even top 3 player. Not to mention the guy has always been a great ambassador of the game to the entire world.

BuckN20T
03-16-2015, 08:58 AM
A player said it? Confirmed GOAT.

Future24
03-16-2015, 08:59 AM
Only has rings because Jordan had a gambling addiction

NYPat
03-16-2015, 09:18 AM
A player said it? Confirmed GOAT.

Exactly. Opinion > everything

CurryTech777
03-16-2015, 09:30 AM
wow nice footage of embiid, got any actual game highlights?

rekt

jross2021
03-16-2015, 09:40 AM
Only has rings because Jordan had a gambling addiction

This, unfortunately. Hakeem was amazing, but rings matter a little less if you played in the early/mid-90's. Jordan ran the league then and you could only win a ring if he let you.

Justang
03-16-2015, 09:50 AM
This statement shouldn't be much a surprise, I mean if you watch basketball you would see that Hakeem passes the GOAT eye ball test. Just look at the moves this huge man can do, that you don't even see in the nba today. Rings???? Come on, winning tons of championships don't make you the greatest of all time, there are so many factors that a superstar needs to depend on to win ships, like a great team/coach. There can never truly be a greatest of all time IMO, but if I was to pick one, it would have to be JORDAN because I love those stone cold ruthless players with the heart of a lion.

Taveren
03-16-2015, 10:22 AM
why did you mention "5>2"?

Horry has seven rings

sigcaroutfork
03-16-2015, 10:26 AM
There's a reason why LeBron, Kobe, Dwight, Melo, etc. have all spent time working with him. They all put their egos aside to work with an absolute freak. No other big man could match his skill.

Watch what he did to David Robinson on the night he was awarded the MVP.

hW4uXlRGAF0
o wow a video of robinson being dominated by hakeem. this is new and original

sdballer5588
03-16-2015, 10:42 AM
Dying laughing at Kobe fans trying to simultaneously accept the quote, while also claiming it matters LESS than other people's quotes.


Coming from a fanbase who uses a quotation from Josh McRoberts to solidify Kobe being a good teammate, this thread is a fukking gold mind.

brb_ballin
03-16-2015, 10:48 AM
Averaged 37/16 and almost 3 blocks a game in the '88 playoffs.

Career:

9th in FGM
9th in offensive boards
7th in defensive boards
9th in steals
1st in blocks
12th in points
16th in PER
15th defensive rating
4th in defensive win shares
13th in VORP

Dude is arguably a top 10 all time player after the merger.




Arguably?


Hes top 10 period.

If people dont have him top 10 just throw that list out.

Jordan
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Hakeem
Duncan
Russell
KAJ
LeBron
Shaq

jross2021
03-16-2015, 10:56 AM
Arguably?


Hes top 10 period.

If people dont have him top 10 just throw that list out.


The same can be said about people that don't have Kobe on their list.

Dominik
03-16-2015, 10:59 AM
o wow a video of robinson being dominated by hakeem. this is new and originalo wow a troll is deep in the red. this is new and original

THEHEADLIN3R
03-16-2015, 10:59 AM
Dying laughing at Kobe fans trying to simultaneously accept the quote, while also claiming it matters LESS than other people's quotes.

Pretty sure that was only one guy in the entire thread, but of course that's what you'd fixate on because you have a weird obsession with Kobe and his fans.

AJT003
03-16-2015, 11:12 AM
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Big Man with handles and agility who can shoot

BrawnySwoleman
03-16-2015, 11:35 AM
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hublife
03-16-2015, 12:24 PM
I agree with Horry. Hakeem was amazing to watch. Dude moved like a much smaller player and had Tim Duncan level basketball IQ.

bezarker
03-16-2015, 12:37 PM
Hakeem carried the Rockets on his back...

TexasMajor
03-16-2015, 12:57 PM
Ill take Shaq Saturday through Sunday, Monday. Monday through Sunday.

4567081110
03-16-2015, 12:58 PM
Understandable, but debatable.


I take the opinion of a career role player a little less serious than say a Bird or Magic opinion.

Robert Horry has 7 rings

Bird has 3 rings

Magic has 5 rings

7>3
7>5

TexasMajor
03-16-2015, 01:04 PM
Robert Horry has 7 rings

Bird has 3 rings

Magic has 5 rings

7>3
7>5

Not surprised that you still don't know the difference between a role player and a franchise player.


LOL

Daewoo_Lanos
03-16-2015, 01:07 PM
Robert Horry misses a few shots and he and many others have a few less rings.

1800_Cool_Guy
03-16-2015, 01:23 PM
Are the kobetards salty over this? You bet.

NYPat
03-16-2015, 01:27 PM
Lol at where this conversation is going.

ClutchAnalyst
03-16-2015, 01:37 PM
Your list is equally garbage.

Don't care if you're the biggest Kobe hater in the world, if you don't have him somewhere in the top 10, you're a ****ing retard. That and having Shaq at 10th best ever, Kareem at 8th, Wilt 4th, etc. Just a horrible list in general.



Why would anyone be mad that Horry said one of the best players ever is the best player he's played with?

The only people bringing up 'Kobetards' are you guys.


Lol the irony that horry's opinion doesn't bother us and in fact shows that skills ability are a significant and vital part of measuring greatness rather than raw box score stats.

no one even complained about it

TexasMajor
03-16-2015, 01:42 PM
ITT:


Players opinions only matter when its about a player they don't hate.

RIKTER
03-16-2015, 01:52 PM
7'0" 260lbs.
and will absolutely bitch slap you, African style

Lol wut? he was 6'9" tops

AirJordanB
03-16-2015, 01:54 PM
If people dont have him top 10 just throw that list out.

Jordan
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Hakeem
Duncan
Russell
KAJ
LeBron
Shaq


Your list is equally garbage.

Don't care if you're the biggest Kobe hater in the world, if you don't have him somewhere in the top 10, you're a ****ing retard. That and having Shaq at 10th best ever, Kareem at 8th, Wilt 4th, etc. Just a horrible list in general.

Why is that list garbage? In no particular order...

Hakeem: 1 MVP; 2 finals MVPs; all-time leading blocker
Shaq: 1 MVP; 3 finals MVPs; most dominant player the league has seen during his prime
Jordan: GOAT
Bird: 3 MVPs; 3 finals MVPs
Magic: 3 MVPs; 3 finals MVPs
Russell: 5 MVPs; most championships by a player
Wilt: 4 MVPs; 1 finals MVP; all-time leading rebounder
Kareem: 6 MVP; 2 finals MVP; all-time leading scorer
LeBron: 4 MVP; 2 finals MVP
Duncan: 2 MVP; 3 finals MVP

The top 10 is for players who have several personal achievements. What has Kobe done to beat out anyone on that list? He has several team accolades under his belt, but is not a top 10 great. FOH

wickedman
03-16-2015, 02:03 PM
As posted previously, first thing I thought of was Jordan saying the same thing.

4567081110
03-16-2015, 02:24 PM
Not surprised that you still don't know the difference between a role player and a franchise player.


LOL

It's simple math, honestly. Leave it to Lakers fans to bring up rings without context and then say that Horry's opinion doesn't count because of context.

ClutchAnalyst
03-16-2015, 02:26 PM
First thing, team accomplishments have a lot to do with being top 10. If Duncan had no rings and Barkley had 5, it wouldn't be Duncan that we all considered top 10. If Lebron was 6-6 and not 2-5, we'd (and by this I mean anyone that isn't a Lebron fan) all have him top 5 and not 'just outside the top 10', etc. Russell's championships is the only reason anyone considers him even remotely close to the top 10.

Second thing, in no particular order, Kobe 5 championships, 2 FMVPs, should have 2 MVPs but has 1 for argument's sake, highest scoring guard of all time, 3rd all time scoring, 3rd all time playoff scoring, 12x all defensive, 2x scoring champ, most ever all NBA selections, most ever first all team defensive by a SG (and tied for first when counting all players), etc.

Either he's the best in everything in the shooting guard position, or he's behind the guy who is the best ever. Not exactly a bad spot to be in.

You are talking to a robot

brb_ballin
03-16-2015, 02:31 PM
Your list is equally garbage.

Don't care if you're the biggest Kobe hater in the world, if you don't have him somewhere in the top 10, you're a ****ing retard. That and having Shaq at 10th best ever, Kareem at 8th, Wilt 4th, etc. Just a horrible list in general.



Why would anyone be mad that Horry said one of the best players ever is the best player he's played with?

The only people bringing up 'Kobetards' are you guys.



I have Kobe 12th
There are plenty of great players not in the top 10. I think he benefited greatly from playing with Shaq.

Big O
Kobe
Dr. J
Garnett
Karl Malone
Moses Malone
Pippen
David Robinson
John Stockton
Isiah Thomas


Roughly my 11-20 dont have time to really work on an exact list. Some names could be swapped

HoustonMiscer
03-16-2015, 02:41 PM
Kobe brahs pls don't be mad. Horry played with Dream and won his first championship with Dream and that probably has a lot to do with it. Let's be real the ones after don't mean as much as the first.

Chairman7w
03-16-2015, 02:42 PM
Yep. I remember a thread a long time ago (couple years ago maybe) where a very strong argument was made for him being the greatest player ever.


I couldn't disagree. He's that good.

dtbrehm
03-16-2015, 04:57 PM
Never saw him play live, but from game footage he's my favorite center ever and would be on my all-time starting 5.

YellowOnYellow
03-16-2015, 06:17 PM
Arguably?


Hes top 10 period.

If people dont have him top 10 just throw that list out.

Jordan
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Hakeem
Duncan
Russell
KAJ
LeBron
Shaq

So much disrespect for dr j.

Spill512
03-16-2015, 06:18 PM
Horry's a fukcboy. Always has been, always will be.

ClutchAnalyst
03-16-2015, 06:19 PM
So much disrespect for dr j.

this too

people forget the air doctor

YellowOnYellow
03-16-2015, 06:21 PM
this too

people forget the air doctor

The top 7 is not even argueable. In no particular order...

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Dr j
Russell
Hakeem

Everyone is fighting for 8 and down.

HtotheOV
03-16-2015, 06:23 PM
Horry's a fukcboy. Always has been, always will be.
If he said Kobe, you tards would be making threads like you do with any other former player saying something good about Kobe.

ClutchAnalyst
03-16-2015, 06:26 PM
The top 7 is not even argueable. In no particular order...

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Dr j
Russell
Hakeem

Everyone is fighting for 8 and down.

nah i disagree

but thats okay

broboma2012
03-16-2015, 06:30 PM
i would have hakeem at forward and shaq at center on my all time team

ThinkAgain
03-16-2015, 06:49 PM
The top 7 is not even argueable. In no particular order...

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Dr j
Russell
Hakeem

Everyone is fighting for 8 and down.

lol at wilt and russell

did not lol at Dr j thats just fukin stupid to post him there

Dominik
03-16-2015, 10:36 PM
Never saw him play live, but from game footage he's my favorite center ever and would be on my all-time starting 5.Look at the numbers he racked up in an era of great centers like Shaq, Robinson, and Ewing. His career blocks record won't be touched.

Now imagine Hakeem playing today against all those one-dimensional scrubs.

Rebounds45
03-16-2015, 11:36 PM
he seems like a really nice and genuine guy too. Hakeem is probably the top on my list of bball players that I'd love to meet and have a conversation with. His accent is kinda hard to understand tho lol

ClevageGobbler
03-16-2015, 11:56 PM
Hakeem/Bird/Kobe/Magic/MJ are the most complete players of all time. I think Robert Horry is talking about skill set. When it comes to the best, it's all about winning + whoever has the better offense/defense and leadership. It's been a business basically as long as it's been a game and the players have been able to influence who's drafted/signed. Rings are definitely a factor. Bill Russell, Kobe, Bird, Magic, Jordan) all players who have turned other players into absolute machines. Hakeem is a savage but where do you draw the line? You have to be an executive too and makes moves for your team. You have to find ways and do sht you probably don't really want to do to your squad to motivate them or give any push you can. It's called being a shot caller. Based off all I've heard and read, Russell, Kobe, Bird, Magic, Jordan were so competitive that they basically turned team skirmishes or practice into playoff battles. All I'm saying is that you get what you put in. The only player I feel was fcked over is Kevin Garnett. He had to work with a bunch of fcking idiots in Minnesota. Literally, all he ever had was Sprewell to take some of the weight off his back..


Only has rings because Jordan had a gambling addiction

And 2008 Lakers don't lose if Bynum and Ariza weren't injured. What's the point? In the end, they were all unlucky and unable to stay on top. You're basically saying something like, "I would have won that competition, if I was in it." It's stupid as fuk and "what if" fantasy bull****.

aal04
03-17-2015, 12:01 AM
If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him.

ŚMichael Jordan

Lettuce beef reality. MJ is a great player, but he Kwame Browned us

aal04
03-17-2015, 12:02 AM
he seems like a really nice and genuine guy too. Hakeem is probably the top on my list of bball players that I'd love to meet and have a conversation with. His accent is kinda hard to understand tho lol

Hakeem is possibly the most skilled big, but i would not get lessons from him like the all time greats. No one has improved their game by going to Hakeem class, he just has too much communication issues.

Assassin X
03-17-2015, 12:27 AM
The top 7 is not even argueable. In no particular order...

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Dr j
Russell
Hakeem

Everyone is fighting for 8 and down.


Kareem > half the people on your list and Dr J should not be in the top 10 let alone "your" top 7

ThickMeat
03-17-2015, 12:29 AM
Hakeem/Bird/Kobe/Magic/MJ are the most complete players of all time. I think Robert Horry is talking about skill set. When it comes to the best, it's all about winning + whoever has the better offense/defense and leadership. It's been a business basically as long as it's been a game and the players have been able to influence who's drafted/signed. Rings are definitely a factor. Bill Russell, Kobe, Bird, Magic, Jordan) all players who have turned other players into absolute machines. Hakeem is a savage but where do you draw the line? You have to be an executive too and makes moves for your team. You have to find ways and do sht you probably don't really want to do to your squad to motivate them or give any push you can. It's called being a shot caller. Based off all I've heard and read, Russell, Kobe, Bird, Magic, Jordan were so competitive that they basically turned team skirmishes or practice into playoff battles. All I'm saying is that you get what you put in. The only player I feel was fcked over is Kevin Garnett. He had to work with a bunch of fcking idiots in Minnesota. Literally, all he ever had was Sprewell to take some of the weight off his back..



And 2008 Lakers don't lose if Bynum and Ariza weren't injured. What's the point? In the end, they were all unlucky and unable to stay on top. You're basically saying something like, "I would have won that competition, if I was in it." It's stupid as fuk and "what if" fantasy bull****.

2009 celtics dont lose if KG isnt injured

2010 celtics dont lose perkins isnt injured

Rebounds45
03-17-2015, 01:47 AM
Hakeem is possibly the most skilled big, but i would not get lessons from him like the all time greats. No one has improved their game by going to Hakeem class, he just has too much communication issues.

Kobe did. I think. Well he kind of already had it in him and all the Hakeem stuff was probably just to sharpen them up. With Amare and D12, those guys were veteran guys already lol, they should've learnt that chit earlier in their career. I mean Yao was smooth AF at 7'6".

GooBaaa
03-17-2015, 03:58 AM
Anyone that puts kobe or LeBron in the top 10 really need start watching basketball lmao

Scorer
03-17-2015, 05:35 AM
Would love to see a prime Hakeem vs prime Kareem matchup.

lsiberian
03-17-2015, 06:39 AM
Why did he only make the finals twice if he was as great as Horry claims? Shaq got to the finals 5 times in his career Kobe 5 times, Duncan 6 times. Truly great players sustain success. Of course Jordan would praise Hakeem he was the best center during his tenure, but to pretend he was better than Prime Shaq is absurd IMO.

Spill512
03-17-2015, 06:44 AM
Anyone that puts kobe or LeBron in the top 10 really need start watching basketball lmao

Location: Colorado

Don't make Kobe come down there a second time.

THEHEADLIN3R
03-17-2015, 08:00 AM
Why did he only make the finals twice if he was as great as Horry claims? Shaq got to the finals 5 times in his career Kobe 5 times, Duncan 6 times. Truly great players sustain success. Of course Jordan would praise Hakeem he was the best center during his tenure, but to pretend he was better than Prime Shaq is absurd IMO.

Kobe got there 7 times..........soon to be 8.

Dominik
03-17-2015, 09:50 AM
Hakeem is possibly the most skilled big, but i would not get lessons from him like the all time greats. No one has improved their game by going to Hakeem class, he just has too much communication issues.It has nothing to do with communication. You just can't develop those skills late in your career.

ClutchAnalyst
03-17-2015, 09:54 AM
Hakeem is possibly the most skilled big, but i would not get lessons from him like the all time greats. No one has improved their game by going to Hakeem class, he just has too much communication issues.


kobe??

dude went from being really good in the post to absolutely lethal

Babyframes
03-17-2015, 03:04 PM
Would love to see a prime Hakeem vs prime Kareem matchup.

Lmao notsureifsrs. Hakeem stomps him easily.