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MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 01:13 PM
attemping to become the first AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHT champion tonigth since 2006.

he's from tuscalsoo alabama and has sparked everyone out but he's faced all stiffs. tonight is his big test. stiverne is a decent HW.

cncman
01-17-2015, 01:53 PM
another swift sec victory

Snine
01-17-2015, 01:59 PM
Wilder sitting at -196 at the moment which is bettable. You give me your word OP? I haven't been following boxing for a minute but I will pull the trigger if you give me the go ahead bro.

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 02:00 PM
Wilder sitting at -196 at the moment which is bettable. You give me your word OP? I haven't been following boxing for a minute but I will pull the trigger if you give me the go ahead bro.

lol no, I'm hyping him up, I think the guy is stepping up and has a glass chin (SRs)..stiverne is a good bet.

waterislife
01-17-2015, 02:11 PM
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Vitamin0
01-17-2015, 02:22 PM
When is this fight EST?

Snine
01-17-2015, 02:36 PM
lol no, I'm hyping him up, I think the guy is stepping up and has a glass chin (SRs)..stiverne is a good bet.

Just watched the All Access

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Hyped up for the fight now and kind of agree with you. Thought Wilder was a clown until the part about his daughter and what he's fighting for. May the best man win, looks to be a good fight.

Vitamin0
01-17-2015, 02:38 PM
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AriGhold
01-17-2015, 03:05 PM
How does he get a title fight after being knocked out 32 times? Boxing has really gone down hill

roman259
01-17-2015, 03:07 PM
How does he get a title fight after being knocked out 32 times? Boxing has really gone down hill

He's knocked out his opponents 32 times, not the other way around.

ayodavid93
01-17-2015, 03:07 PM
Meh, heavyweight division doesn't appeal to me.

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 03:17 PM
Meh, heavyweight division doesn't appeal to me.

theres nothing like a good heavyweight fight brah...

Amillion
01-17-2015, 03:34 PM
theres nothing like a good heavyweight fight brah...

only good for the first few rounds then they get tired and slow down fast

FGCHENG
01-17-2015, 04:04 PM
Exciting for sure, but looking back at history. Michael Grant had a similar record until he faced Lennox Lewis

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Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 04:11 PM
Just watched the All Access

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Hyped up for the fight now and kind of agree with you. Thought Wilder was a clown until the part about his daughter and what he's fighting for. May the best man win, looks to be a good fight.

Wilder IS a clown, he's got like 3 kids and may or may or be married, yet he was arrested in Vegas last year for beating the hell out of a hooker and choking her out, Stiverne even mentioned this in the press conference and Wilder looked uncomfortable AF

I think Stiverne wins via KO early, but I will give credit to where it's due, wilder can bang, seriously has ungodly power. If he lands a bomb he can easily win aswell, but stiverne's is the better boxer technically speaking

Jamielak
01-17-2015, 04:21 PM
pumped for this lol



supporting my fellow manmore

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 04:23 PM
Exciting for sure, but looking back at history. Michael Grant had a similar record until he faced Lennox Lewis

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Damn Lennox had a brutal uppercut. Idk how Vitali ate this massive uppercut like he did, probably the last great hw match

http://oi40.tinypic.com/16iclcw.jpg

konohagakure
01-17-2015, 04:55 PM
Bermane finna whup dat ass playa

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 05:22 PM
****ing lol if anyone considers this guy worth a ****. Klitschko would probably kill him in the ring, but we'll never know because Wilder will never fight anyone.

konohagakure
01-17-2015, 05:27 PM
****ing lol if anyone considers this guy worth a ****. Klitschko would probably kill him in the ring, but we'll never know because Wilder will never fight anyone.

hey man, don't you know he has amazing knockout wins against juggernauts like jason gavern and nicolai firtha?

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 05:30 PM
hey man, don't you know he has amazing knockout wins against juggernauts like jason gavern and nicolai firtha?Damn. He should get all of Klitschko's belts for those knockouts alone!

21Classic
01-17-2015, 05:40 PM
Im unaware of boxing


but Ive known of Wilder for awhile now. I dont understand it. Has he just been fighting trash all this time? A guy who goes 32-0 with 32 KOs, WTF has he not fought Klitchsko like 4 times by now?

again, I dont understand boxing. But in every other sport in the world, if you win a bunch, you eventually get better opponents and then titles.

32-0 is WAY past due. He should be getting titles shots at like 17-0

Rigo1989
01-17-2015, 05:41 PM
Wilder is going to get KO'd tonight

nikeoneplatinum
01-17-2015, 06:01 PM
What time's the fight, where can I watch?

Rigo1989
01-17-2015, 06:03 PM
The event starts at 10 in showtime

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 06:24 PM
Ugh I hope that fight never happens. Dude has nothing but a right hook, would end up throwing a haymaker and get destroyed by Klitchko's straight right. But I do hope Wilder doesn't turn out like Grant did after he got his ass whipped by Lennox. Boxing needs more support in America and this phaggot is attracting some pretty major attention.

Also apparently Bermane is the almost 2 to 1 underdog in this fight. Should put a few bucks down..

edit: wtf, actually 10 to 1 payout for Stiverne by decision. Definitely getting in on that.

Buddy this fight ain't going to the judges score card. You'll just be throwing ur money away o u put money on a points win on either guy

eMentor23
01-17-2015, 06:39 PM
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lol this is the average miscer who thinks he can take on a professional boxer

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 06:39 PM
****ing lol if anyone considers this guy worth a ****. Klitschko would probably kill him in the ring, but we'll never know because Wilder will never fight anyone.

Where are the White American Boxers?

The best American boxers are black.

NeverGymLess
01-17-2015, 07:07 PM
Anyone have a stream for tonight ?

DaarioNaharis
01-17-2015, 07:09 PM
Anyone know how much these guys are making this fight?

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 07:23 PM
Anyone know how much these guys are making this fight?

I've heard rumors Deontay may be getting up to 2 mill, but I'm pretty sure the reported amount is 1 million flat. Stiverne's getting around 900,000 even though he's the champ

deadrats
01-17-2015, 07:25 PM
the problem with boxing is that it's set up in such a way that you can make any chump look like a world beater. here's Deontay's record:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder

first fight in 11/15/2008

next fight in 3/6/2009

his next fight was just 8 days later on 3/14/2009

this has all the classic markings of a attempt to pump up someone's record so that it looks impressive by having fight guys they know he can beat, in an attempt to cash in with a big payday.

happens in boxing all the time, they find some guy they think they can market, then they get him a bunch of easy fights so that they can build up his record and earn a title shot and a fat check.

the UFC does this also, and lately quite a bit.

Snine
01-17-2015, 07:28 PM
Man this is an awesome fight. worth the price of admission right here knock downs errrwhere.

gotrice33
01-17-2015, 07:38 PM
Anyone have a stream for tonight ?

this

freshnevafrozen
01-17-2015, 07:38 PM
That was pretty good fight before the main event
edit: http://www.vipleague.sx/boxing/273519/2/wbc-world-heavyweight-title---deontay-wilder-vs-bermane-stiverne-live-stream-online.html

If this isn't allowed then just tell me to delete. Pls no bans

MaximumCapacity
01-17-2015, 07:38 PM
Lol that promoter looks like don king





Oh ****
Edit: that is don king

DaarioNaharis
01-17-2015, 07:44 PM
That was a very entertaining first fight.. Hopefully these next matches follow suit

gotrice33
01-17-2015, 07:50 PM
wut times the fight startin?

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 08:03 PM
u wot m8

not yet. in an hour or so.

fuk, got werk two morrow

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 08:08 PM
Not that I know any boxers or watch boxing minus big fights, but man these first 2 fights have been one of the more entertaining cards I have ever seen

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 08:08 PM
rumors are rigo or someone with his promotion company is going to hop in the ring after the santa cruz fight and call him out...srs.

DaarioNaharis
01-17-2015, 08:10 PM
fuk, got werk two morrow

I doubt McDonald's fires you for showing up to work late.. Chill out mane and enjoy the fight night

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 08:13 PM
this ruiz guy si finished, worn down, bout to be knocked out soon./

roger79
01-17-2015, 08:53 PM
Starting now!

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 08:55 PM
That gold mask was so legit

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 08:55 PM
let's go bermane-stiverne!!!

Snine
01-17-2015, 08:55 PM
This is it mane!!!

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 08:59 PM
first round was intense.....this is going to be a great fight.

freshnevafrozen
01-17-2015, 09:03 PM
Ho lee fuk. ****s intense

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 09:03 PM
Holy fuk Wilder wildin'

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 09:03 PM
Letsgooooooooooooooooooo

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:03 PM
still huge question with wilder in the late rounds.

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:07 PM
stiverne gameplan is obviously trying to take wilder intot he deep water, aka late rounds.....wilder may look good early but hes nevber been past 4 orunds

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 09:08 PM
WIlder is a G. I love taunting. That is why Broner is my favorite fighter currently

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:11 PM
Stiverne is going to straight up KO Wilder soon if he ups his aggressiveness....

Snine
01-17-2015, 09:11 PM
Wilder slowin down... only round 5. If this goes to even 9 he gon be gassed.

ayodavid93
01-17-2015, 09:14 PM
lulz Fernando Vargas is 2 rows from De la Hoya wonder if they still hate each other

freshnevafrozen
01-17-2015, 09:15 PM
This guy is eating punches

Msti
01-17-2015, 09:17 PM
Stream died help

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:19 PM
wilder will get KO'd...one slip up and he's DONE.....hes winning the fight though....but WIlder is TIRED ALREADY...

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:19 PM
Stream died help


http://www.vipleague.se/boxing/273519/1/wbc-world-heavyweight-title---deontay-wilder-vs-bermane-stiverne-live-stream-online.html

L0lJ0ker3
01-17-2015, 09:22 PM
Just saw this thread was still active so I decided why not and started watching.

Stiverne took some shots in that round.

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:23 PM
WOW...Stiverns has a damn chin man...and not only that he's hurt and he;s still trying to counter pucnh

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 09:23 PM
This fight is living up to the hype. Such a sick fight

L0lJ0ker3
01-17-2015, 09:27 PM
Whew those last two shots at the end of the round...
If they would have landed.... whew

Snine
01-17-2015, 09:27 PM
Stiverne not doing enough mayne.

MayPacMay2
01-17-2015, 09:31 PM
stiverne looks gassed tho

L0lJ0ker3
01-17-2015, 09:31 PM
Stiverne not doing enough mayne.

He's eating jabs to the face.

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 09:36 PM
He's eating jabs to the face.

Dude has a strong azz chin

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 09:39 PM
WIlder is a G. I love taunting. That is why Broner is my favorite fighter currentlyBroner is trash. I don't don't enjoy wishing serious harm on people, but I really wish he'd get a career ending injury.

Snine
01-17-2015, 09:40 PM
Stiverne in all honesty has boxed like complete chit. No jab, no head movement, no cutting off the ring. Only shot is a KO and dude is showing no desperation at all like he has all day. Stiverne exposed, no champ at all.

eMentor23
01-17-2015, 09:43 PM
kinda dissapointing both were pretty chitty

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 09:43 PM
"Who can't box?!"

Someone should've screamed, "You can't box real opponents!"

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 09:45 PM
"Who can't box?!"

Someone should've screamed, "You can't box real opponents!"

Where are the white American boxers?

L0lJ0ker3
01-17-2015, 09:45 PM
Gotta love the talking to the camera after the fight lmao.

What country is Stiverne from?



Oh and I feel this needs to be said....

Dat black on black crime doeeee.

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 09:45 PM
Ho lee fuk, I doubt more than a dozen ppl predicted it would go the full 12 wooow

I wouldve been less surprised if either guy was ktfo in the first 10 seconds rather than a judges decision

WolfishGrin
01-17-2015, 09:46 PM
Nothing annoys me more than seeing Sam Watson's face and that goes for his leech sons too.

Congrats to Wilder he's legit. Not a Klitscho-beater legit but legit nonetheless.

Stiverne is a gamer but the dude needs to take a lesson in ring generalship. Chased Wilder in a straight line the entire fight. Chit was ridiculous...

Swept
01-17-2015, 09:47 PM
Wilder used his jab and reach to his advantage, Stervine couldn't set up chit.

roger79
01-17-2015, 09:48 PM
What country is Stiverne from?

Born in Haiti but grew up and still lives in Canada

Edit: looks like he's no longer in Canada...

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 09:48 PM
Where are the white American boxers?Do you get some crazy enjoyment out of bringing race into everything?

freshnevafrozen
01-17-2015, 09:49 PM
Haters gonna hate. Winners gonna win. This was a great match

L0lJ0ker3
01-17-2015, 09:50 PM
Man this dude country as hell lmao

Alabama!

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 09:50 PM
Broner is trash. I don't don't enjoy wishing serious harm on people, but I really wish he'd get a career ending injury.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/58130ca05fdc0f2d7ea96aeafed6d772/tumblr_msvynp02WG1qk6zdio1_500.gif

WolfishGrin
01-17-2015, 09:51 PM
Haters gonna hate. Winners gonna win. This was a great match

For like the first 8 rds. Then it became a snoozer.

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 09:52 PM
Do you get some crazy enjoyment out of bringing race into everything?

You get some kind of enjoyment by cheering for European boxers over Americans boxers.

Snine
01-17-2015, 09:52 PM
Wilder is legit and going to be good for the sport.

L0lJ0ker3
01-17-2015, 09:52 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/58130ca05fdc0f2d7ea96aeafed6d772/tumblr_msvynp02WG1qk6zdio1_500.gif

Damn he came out with Kendrick though.

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 09:54 PM
Wonder why Jim didn't ask if he's willing to fight Wlad next

Wlad's aging and deontay has brought the spotlight back to Americas, let's make this super fight before ppl get bored

If Wlad wins, well business as usual, but if Wilder can cause the upset then it's the passing of the torch that Lennox never granted to Wlad

freshnevafrozen
01-17-2015, 09:55 PM
For like the first 8 rds. Then it became a snoozer.
Would you rather sit through 12 rounds of emaciated manlets throwing soft jabs instead? Idk mane, this was better than any boxing match i've seen in a while.

Swept
01-17-2015, 09:56 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/58130ca05fdc0f2d7ea96aeafed6d772/tumblr_msvynp02WG1qk6zdio1_500.gif

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/broner2.gif?w=1000

Carbonfibre
01-17-2015, 10:01 PM
Mi
Wonder why Jim didn't ask if he's willing to fight Wlad next

Wlad's aging and deontay has brought the spotlight back to Americas, let's make this super fight before ppl get bored

If Wlad wins, well business as usual, but if Wilder can cause the upset then it's the passing of the torch that Lennox never granted to Wlad

Wilder is still way to green for wladimir.

Wlads jab is way above Wilders.

Wladimir would never walk into punches and have no head movement.

Wilder would get picked apart in 5 rounds.

Also Wilder seems to lack punching power and at 220 i doubt he can take heavy punches.

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 10:02 PM
You get some kind of enjoyment by cheering for European boxers over Americans boxers.I cheer for boxers that don't act like pieces of ****.

BullBoy8
01-17-2015, 10:03 PM
http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/broner2.gif?w=1000

best thing about that is this was Broner before the fight haha

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Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 10:05 PM
Wilder is still way to green for wladimir. Wlads jab is way above wilders and you would never seem him walk into punches or no head movement.

Wilder would get picked apart in 5 rounds and you can tell he can't take punches well and lacks punching power.

Well one of two things can happen, Jennings can press the mando for the belt if he declines the Klitschko fight, or wilder will fight the winner of Aleksander Povetkin - Mike Perez, so either way he's got a tough fight ahead

Wilder is there to be hit if the opponent has quick enough hands, and Povetkin has maybe the quickest hands in the HW division. The problem is Wilders reach and his savage power. Idk if any other hw on the planet can take the shots Bermaine took tonight without being dropped, dudes got an iron chin

StevenBarino
01-17-2015, 10:05 PM
Hercegovac8,



What's your thoughts on Anthony Joshua?


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Amillion
01-17-2015, 10:08 PM
Broner is trash. I don't don't enjoy wishing serious harm on people, but I really wish he'd get a career ending injury.

I agree..

Nah just kidding phaggot. I've been lurking the misc for a good 2 years now and evreything I've ever seen you do has been laced with phaggotry. You are a white knight and a jelly phaggot for Broner. But this isnt about him. This is about you.

I hope that everytime you pass the stairs in your house you tear up a little. You know what...Broner coulda motherphucking bounded up those stairs. Any mammal could. I hope that evreytime you sh.t you are reminded that you have difficulty wiping your own ass, and even getting on the toilet. I hope that evreytime you see a girl look at you, the first thing she thinks of is how pathetic you are. I hope that you know when she hears the reason you are crippled she doesnt feel sorry for you, she thinks your an ass hole. And I also hope that you know that evrey miscer wants to say these things to you but is scared because of reps.

Do you miss sex lunatic? Do you miss that pain on leg day? Broner may be flashy. But at least he wasnt such a dick as to drink and then drive and endanger the lives of the innocent. I'm happy that what happened to you did. I hope you know that the girl you like see's my abs and wants me over you the second she see's me. How does it feel knowing you will never have kids? Did you want to chase the little toddlers around? I mean I know your mates call you hotwheels so maybe you could make little vrooom vroom noises while the little tots wonder if your penis works. (does it?) You are a waste of life. And I think that natural selection saw fit to take your legs away so that you would have to slither like the snake you are, forever at dick height of real men. What are you gonna do neg me phaggot? I dont care. You get your little power trips off of banning for no reason and deleting the threads of people who are your betters.

Swept
01-17-2015, 10:08 PM
Wonder why Jim didn't ask if he's willing to fight Wlad next

Wlad's aging and deontay has brought the spotlight back to Americas, let's make this super fight before ppl get bored

If Wlad wins, well business as usual, but if Wilder can cause the upset then it's the passing of the torch that Lennox never granted to Wlad

He should fight Tyson Fury just to end that paggots streak. I think Wlad is too much for him, but he has a punchers chance since Wlad has been ko'd before.

LMAO Lennox wasn't gonna give Vitali another chance, after that ass beating he was getting. Vitali is on another level compared with his brother

Carbonfibre
01-17-2015, 10:12 PM
Well one of two things can happen, Jennings can press the mando for the belt if he declines the Klitschko fight, or wilder will fight the winner of Aleksander Povetkin - Mike Perez, so either way he's got a tough fight ahead

Wilder is there to be hit if the opponent has quick enough hands, and Povetkin has maybe the quickest hands in the HW division. The problem is Wilders reach and his savage power. Idk if any other hw on the planet can take the shots Bermaine took tonight without being dropped, dudes got an iron chin

Povetkin would be massive test for Wilder and I doubt it will happen.

Stiverne tonight didn't even show up it was pathetic for champion.

Yes, Wilder has great reach but his size is too small he needs 30 more pounds so stronger guys don't walk right through him.

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 10:19 PM
Hercegovac8,



What's your thoughts on Anthony Joshua?


MtftcnNdYoc

Well first of all he shouldn't be a gold medalist because he lost his first fight at the london Olympics against the Cuban, point blank no one who saw that fight can disagree, just a disgusting hometown decision against Savon. Some ppl say maybe he lost vs Dychko and the Italian dude but it was close and could've gone either way

With that said amateurs =/= pros and AJ has shown good skills and good power as a pro so far. Still early in his career, and it's too bad he was injured and won't fight Kevin Johnson now because that's a good barometer fight, but I definately see him as a future title contender and possible holder

WolfishGrin
01-17-2015, 10:28 PM
Mi

Wilder is still way to green for wladimir.

Wlads jab is way above Wilders.

Wladimir would never walk into punches and have no head movement.

Wilder would get picked apart in 5 rounds.

Also Wilder seems to lack punching power and at 220 i doubt he can take heavy punches.

u fukking w0tm8?

The_Zodiac
01-17-2015, 10:31 PM
Broner is trash. I don't don't enjoy wishing serious harm on people, but I really wish he'd get a career ending injury.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/heh_robin_hood_men_in_tights.gif

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 10:41 PM
As much as I wanted Stiverne to win, he just got completely outclassed tonight.

Respect for taking all those shots without going down but man, no head movement at all, no counterpunching at all, surprised he didn't get knocked out a few times in that fight.

Didn't I tell u a few weeks back that Deontay was gonna fuk Bermsne up?

konohagakure
01-17-2015, 10:43 PM
Didn't I tell u a few weeks back that Deontay was gonna fuk Bermsne up?

Don't think so, maybe to Nate or someone else.

Was expecting it to go to the cards but thought Bermane would have pulled it off, but dude just came out seemingly not even caring. Well, at least it's not another European with the belt, an American champion will do the sport a world of good in the US.

Hercegovac8
01-17-2015, 10:51 PM
Don't think so, maybe to Nate or someone else.

Was expecting it to go to the cards but thought Bermane would have pulled it off, but dude just came out seemingly not even caring. Well, at least it's not another European with the belt, an American champion will do the sport a world of good in the US.

Yup ur right, I called Nate out on his hipster boxing bullchit

Either way I thought it would end in a ko, and it probably should have but Bermane just had a ridiculous chin

FAH_Q
01-17-2015, 11:00 PM
I agree..

Nah just kidding phaggot. I've been lurking the misc for a good 2 years now and evreything I've ever seen you do has been laced with phaggotry. You are a white knight and a jelly phaggot for Broner. But this isnt about him. This is about you.

I hope that everytime you pass the stairs in your house you tear up a little. You know what...Broner coulda motherphucking bounded up those stairs. Any mammal could. I hope that evreytime you sh.t you are reminded that you have difficulty wiping your own ass, and even getting on the toilet. I hope that evreytime you see a girl look at you, the first thing she thinks of is how pathetic you are. I hope that you know when she hears the reason you are crippled she doesnt feel sorry for you, she thinks your an ass hole. And I also hope that you know that evrey miscer wants to say these things to you but is scared because of reps.

Do you miss sex lunatic? Do you miss that pain on leg day? Broner may be flashy. But at least he wasnt such a dick as to drink and then drive and endanger the lives of the innocent. I'm happy that what happened to you did. I hope you know that the girl you like see's my abs and wants me over you the second she see's me. How does it feel knowing you will never have kids? Did you want to chase the little toddlers around? I mean I know your mates call you hotwheels so maybe you could make little vrooom vroom noises while the little tots wonder if your penis works. (does it?) You are a waste of life. And I think that natural selection saw fit to take your legs away so that you would have to slither like the snake you are, forever at dick height of real men. What are you gonna do neg me phaggot? I dont care. You get your little power trips off of banning for no reason and deleting the threads of people who are your betters.
Welp thats officially the meanest post i've ever read.

Lunatic
01-17-2015, 11:03 PM
Welp thats officially the meanest post i've ever read.Copypasta from years back when I was a mod.

eMentor23
01-17-2015, 11:09 PM
Wonder why Jim didn't ask if he's willing to fight Wlad next

Wlad's aging and deontay has brought the spotlight back to Americas, let's make this super fight before ppl get bored

If Wlad wins, well business as usual, but if Wilder can cause the upset then it's the passing of the torch that Lennox never granted to Wlad
anyone with half a brain knows wilder will get destroyed