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KBaller33
12-18-2014, 04:22 PM
The Lakers would have assets and be title contenders like the Mavs. Agree or Disagree? Because right know Rondo, Parsons, Monta Ellis, and Tyson Chandler all make more money than Dirk. If Kobe did the same as Dirk would the Lakers be in a similar situation as the Mavs? Or would the Lakers suck anyway and it wouldn't had mattered? No hate on Kobe, this is just something I though of after hearing of the Rondo trade and seeing the Mavs roster.

RAdaRuggedMan
12-18-2014, 04:28 PM
You're asking if a team had $17 m more to spend if they couldn't upgrade their pieces and become a better team.

nvrstopworking
12-18-2014, 04:30 PM
What do you think OP?

Fun fact: The Spurs' "Big 3" make about the same money as Kobe COMBINED. lol.

Mithridates1
12-18-2014, 04:31 PM
europeans are less beholden to the almighty dollar, it's just a different mindset. also the lakers will get okafor in the upcoming draft and lakers will be baking and he'll retire in 3 years with 1-2 more rings and the all time scoring title, basically the undisputed goat

KBaller33
12-18-2014, 04:34 PM
You're asking if a team had $17 m more to spend if they couldn't upgrade their pieces and become a better team.

Not just better, but a title contending team that could give Kobe ring #6 or more before retiring

FGCHENG
12-18-2014, 04:36 PM
Partially agreed. Kobe taking that contract means he had no faith in the organization whatsoever, and didn't let them have the opportunity to bring in any big name free agents. If he took lesser money though, who would the Lakers bring in? Lebron was set on going to Cleveland. Carmelo and Kobe was never a real possibility. Chandler Parsons? Nah he's just a good SF but we would need A LOT more to compete. Who else would've joined the Lakers? Only Rondo comes to mind but he wasn't a free agent this past summer right? Lance Stephenson and Isiah Thomas were players they could bring in even if Kobe took 24m. The Lakers management just fukked up in that whole ordeal because they were so focused on Carmelo.

So maybe Kobe saw how it was, and knew there was no one that could come and help us compete for the title, so he just took the money. Kobe isn't about a "better team," he's all about if we can't win a championship with this roster, I rather take more money.

RAdaRuggedMan
12-18-2014, 04:46 PM
As much as I wish Kobe took a pay cut (and as much as I think he shouldn't have to), let's be real for a second, Kobe taking a $10M paycut is not making this Lakers team into a playoff contender, let alone a championship contender.
Not having him on the team would.

TexasMajor
12-18-2014, 04:51 PM
He didn't take a pay cut 2008-2010 and they had three straight Finals appearances.


Jordan made 30+ mill when he got his sixth ring.

KBaller33
12-18-2014, 04:54 PM
He didn't take a pay cut 2008-2010 and they had three straight Finals appearances.


Jordan made 30+ mill when he got his sixth ring.

Kobe was arguably the best player in the league during those championship seasons and so was Jordan in his last year as a Bull.

Kobe today is not at that level anymore. Especially after the knee injuries.

sn24
12-18-2014, 06:22 PM
U wot. He signed that in April 2010, right before they won their 2nd straight title, when Kobe was the best player in the world. Why would he take a pay cut in that situation?

He's nowhere near that level anymore, but expecting him to take a paycut at 31 when he was coming off a championship year is not happening

As a fan of both teams (don't ask), anyone that says 'yeah but if Kobe did this like Timmy did' is a frigging idiot. Duncan signed that extension at 36, not 31 like Kobe. If Kobe's contract expired before this season started, I'm positive he would have taken a large pay cut.

Pls tell me you're not srs

RAdaRuggedMan
12-18-2014, 06:24 PM
U wot. He signed that in April 2010, right before they won their 2nd straight title, when Kobe was the best player in the world. Why would he take a pay cut in that situation?

He's nowhere near that level anymore, but expecting him to take a paycut at 31 when he was coming off a championship year is not happening

As a fan of both teams (don't ask), anyone that says 'yeah but if Kobe did this like Timmy did' is a frigging idiot. Duncan signed that extension at 36, not 31 like Kobe. If Kobe's contract expired before this season started, I'm positive he would have taken a large pay cut.
http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players?direction=desc&season=2009&sort=wins_produced

You mean 47th (arguably a lot lower because he played so many minutes).

ClutchAnalyst
12-18-2014, 06:29 PM
Dirk: "kobe is the greatest player in my generation and best play I've played against in generation"

srom12
12-18-2014, 06:37 PM
Keep on getting dem paychecks young fella.

Spill512
12-18-2014, 07:32 PM
They were suppose to sign some good free agents with the 25 million they had during the off season...where dey at doe?

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EaglesBrah10
12-18-2014, 07:52 PM
Dwight Howard killed the chance of anyone going to La to play with Kobe.

Goes to LA and complains about how Kobe is working everyone too hard, yells at them, and is a bad teammate. Dwight couldn't handle not being #1, AND he didn't play well. Knowing that the team is rebuilding, he joined and then fled asap.

fsujoseph
12-18-2014, 07:54 PM
Disagree, nobody signed with them anyway

4567081110
12-18-2014, 08:09 PM
Wouldn't make them any better, but I think it's funny how Kobetards were going on about how Dirk basically gave his salary to Parsons... You see, when you take pay cuts it makes everything much more flexible. Now Dirk has a legitimate shot at another ring, all because he did what he had to do to win.

waisoserious
12-18-2014, 08:12 PM
who cares, gsw, spurs, dallas, memphis, 1 of them winning it all this yr

and none of those teams got any significant free agents.

JewishSuperHero
12-18-2014, 08:20 PM
Eh... It's not like anybody wants to play with him anyway.

Amillion
12-18-2014, 08:23 PM
He would have as many rings and as much money as Dirk.

ClutchAnalyst
12-18-2014, 08:25 PM
Eh... It's not like anybody wants to play with him anyway.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-fyi-20141219-story.html

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Amillion
12-18-2014, 08:53 PM
A ring can't pay your bills or feed your family.

Even if you auction it, it will get 100k at best.

4567081110
12-18-2014, 09:36 PM
Oh yeah man, Kobe taking a $5-10M pay cut to sign Bledsoe would surely make us contenders.

Just stfu please with your 'Kobetard' nonsense if you're going to go full dumbass 5 seconds later. Prime Shaq couldn't turn this team into legitimate championship contenders.

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4567081110
12-18-2014, 09:39 PM
I'd also like to mention that the post was in reference to a moron who said all Dirk did in taking a cut is paid Parsons his salary for him. Clearly not, because now they have cap flexibility to bring on players that will help them get closer to their ultimate goal.

If Dirk doesn't take a pay cut, they don't get Ronjo OR Parsons.

1800_Cool_Guy
12-18-2014, 10:26 PM
Water is wet. The sky is blue.

4567081110
12-18-2014, 10:30 PM
Prime Shaq, Kobe, and Fisher coached by Phil Jackson could barely beat the Kings in 7

You have to be absolutely retarded to think a team of prime Shaq, 36 year old Kobe, and Carlos Boozer, coached by the most incompetent guy in sports would be championship contenders

Then again this is the guy who thinks Bill Russell is a top 5 player...

A team of prime Shaq, Kobe, and Fisher finished the playoffs 16-1 one year. Glad to see you recognize me though, I feel the connection.

WApolo
12-19-2014, 01:28 AM
Laker's front office would have found a way to screw things up even if Kobe took the minimum given their recent hirings.

srom12
12-19-2014, 01:32 AM
A ring can't pay your bills or feed your family.

Even if you auction it, it will get 100k at best.

What a poor guy hey? There's some NBA players on the balls of their feet earning $8-10 million per year, barely getting by. Meanwhile Kobe is earning $24 million.

He must be having a rough life jeez.