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Malaki100
10-08-2014, 04:52 AM
Diplomat: Syria didn't disclose four sites


Syria has four chemical weapons facilities that it did not previously disclose to the United Nations, a Western diplomat told CNN on Tuesday.

The diplomat said Sigrid Kaag, the U.N. special envoy overseeing the destruction of Syria's chemical stockpiles, briefed the U.N. Security Council.

Three of the sites are research and development facilities and one is a production facility, according to the source.

Syria disclosed the information during ongoing meetings between the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and Syrian authorities, Kaag told the council members, according to the source.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power tweeted shortly after: "Must keep pressure on regime so it doesn't hide (chemical weapons) capability."

In August 2013, U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky told reporters that a team of experts had gathered to go to Syria to investigate reports of chemical weapons.

In September 2013, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon released the inspectors' report, which says there was "clear and convincing evidence" that sarin, a nerve agent developed for chemical warfare, was used in a Damascus attack.

Later that month, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution requiring Syria to eliminate its chemical weapons arsenal, and President Bashar al-Assad promised to adhere to the resolution. The following month, Syria began dismantling its chemical weapons program.

In July, 600 metric tons of chemical weapons from Syria were transferred to a U.S. ship for destruction in what marked the demise of the last of the country's declared chemical weapons stockpiles.

At the time, officials said it was a major milestone.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/world/meast/syria-chemical-weapons/index.html?c=world

What does Mr. Putin have to say ?

IbnKutub
10-08-2014, 05:10 AM
What does Mr. Putin have to say ?

Nothing.

He's too busy lying to Europe about his intentions with his neighbors.

fiberbrah
10-08-2014, 05:17 AM
leave Assad alone.
how convenient that now that we're bombing Syria suddenly Assad has all these weapons again.
Don't believe any of this chit at all.

IbnKutub
10-08-2014, 05:29 AM
leave Assad alone.
how convenient that now that we're bombing Syria suddenly Assad has all these weapons again.
Don't believe any of this chit at all.

There was never any actual doubt that he didn't have them.

Bullroarer
10-08-2014, 05:37 AM
Wanna bomb Assad but that would help ISIS.
Wanna bomb ISIS but that would help al-Qaeda.
Wanna bomb al-Qaeda but that would help al-Nusra.
Wanna bomb al-Nusra but that would help Assad.

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 06:15 AM
Nothing.

He's too busy lying to Europe about his intentions with his neighbors.

Interesting to see if he responds. I remember last year when this was getting hyped up, the understanding was Putin was going to take charge of the issue so the US doesn't get involved.

Israel claimed two weeks ago that Assad still had WMD's, but the mainstream news passed it off as propaganda. Then the UN comes out says their are more chemical weapon facilities. At the same time Hizbollah strikes Israel and wounds two Israeli soldiers.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/08/world/middleeast/israel-soldiers-wounded-hezbollah-explosions.html?referrer=

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Israeli-official-Syria-kept-significant-chemical-weapons-375756

Interesting to see Putins reaction, if he reacts at all.

It looks like we got ourselves a proxy war here boys.

Makes sense. Think about it:

Let US and Arab coalition fight ISIS
Let Israel fight Syria and Hezbollah

WWWIII has begun and you heard it here first.

vvvaaa
10-08-2014, 06:15 AM
It blows my mind that those weapons could have been kept a secret. With how many holes the Assad regime has surely everyone knew about it to some extent. Chit like this doesn't stay secret in a country like that.

SWOLE_JEDI
10-08-2014, 06:20 AM
CNN lol come back when you get some real knowledge on the subject

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 06:24 AM
CNN lol come back when you get some real knowledge on the subject

You need to keep up. This is all over the news and was reported by the UN, not CNN. Syria confirmed it as true.

SWOLE_JEDI
10-08-2014, 06:35 AM
You need to keep up. This is all over the news and was reported by the UN, not CNN. Syria confirmed it as true.

they are all the same.
this war is about oil read about petrodollar.
this will explain everything

http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system/

Tekkendo
10-08-2014, 06:38 AM
Diplomat: Syria didn't disclose four sites



http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/world/meast/syria-chemical-weapons/index.html?c=world

What does Mr. Putin have to say ?

Putler just LOL. It is not his problem. It is stupid Oboxo who got played for sucker at every turn.

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 06:52 AM
Wanna bomb Assad but that would help ISIS.
Wanna bomb ISIS but that would help al-Qaeda.
Wanna bomb al-Qaeda but that would help al-Nusra.
Wanna bomb al-Nusra but that would help Assad.

See potential US/Coalition strategy above. Israel has been hitting Syrian targets over the past several months.

Still doesn't explain what the end game is. If Syria and ISIS are weakened al-Nusra could gain ground. But FSA and YPG will have a much easier fight.


It blows my mind that those weapons could have been kept a secret. With how many holes the Assad regime has surely everyone knew about it to some extent. Chit like this doesn't stay secret in a country like that.

See link above. Israeli intelligence claimed they had more. I think mainstream media discredited Israel's claims because it wasn't really official, being Israel is an enemy of Syria, it was probably brushed off as propaganda.

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 07:03 AM
they are all the same.
this war is about oil read about petrodollar.
this will explain everything

http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system/

Lol at you making fun of my source and linking to a site that looks like an infomercial affiliate site.. Still read through it a little, looks interesting, will read more later.

If you read my OP I said this could very well be all part of a proxy war between US and Russia.

JRMoore82
10-08-2014, 07:13 AM
Can we focus on the real issue.

The incompetence of our Pretender in Cheif for ever even allowing Russia to be the ones to handle the Syrian weapons? Could see this **** coming from a mile away.

Should have bombed Syria when they crossed his "red line"

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 07:22 AM
Putler just LOL. It is not his problem. It is stupid Oboxo who got played for sucker at every turn.

Obamas biggest mistake was making a threat and not acting upon it. If he didn't make the threat, he wouldn't be as much of a sucker. But it looks more is going on, and this may be part of a larger plan overall.

Israel Downs Syria Fighter Jet - Sept 2014
http://m.***.com/news/world-middle-east-29324424

Israel Bombs Nine Syrian Targets - June 2014
http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.htmlb=news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/22/israel-bombs-nine-military-targets-in-syria-after-unprovoked-cross-border-attack-kills-israeli-teen

Israel Strikes Syrian Army Targets - March 2014
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Israel-attacks-Syrian-targets-in-response-to-attack-on-IDF-jeep-345811

Israeli Plane Strikes Syrian Base - Oct 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/31/world/meast/syria-civil-war/

Obama draws a "red line" on Syrian Chemical Weapons - Sept 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/06/president-obama-and-the-red-line-on-syrias-chemical-weapons/

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 07:27 AM
Can we focus on the real issue.

The incompetence of our Pretender in Cheif for ever even allowing Russia to be the ones to handle the Syrian weapons? Could see this **** coming from a mile away.

Should have bombed Syria when they crossed his "red line"

He shouldn't have given the threat if he wasn't going to act. This is a proxy war for a reason - so US doesn't fight Russia and we start WWWIII.

ISIS is making direct threats to the US and killing Americans so he has no choice but to act now.

SWOLE_JEDI
10-08-2014, 07:57 AM
He shouldn't have given the threat if he wasn't going to act. This is a proxy war for a reason - so US doesn't fight Russia and we start WWWIII.

ISIS is making direct threats to the US and killing Americans so he has no choice but to act now.

isis in no way shape or form has anything to do with russia other than be a thorn in putins side.
if anything this so called organization would welcome such a war as to create the caliphate amidst the chaos.

Tekkendo
10-08-2014, 08:07 AM
isis in no way shape or form has anything to do with russia other than be a thorn in putins side.
if anything this so called organization would welcome such a war as to create the caliphate amidst the chaos.


lolz... delusional

Tekkendo
10-08-2014, 08:09 AM
Obamas biggest mistake was making a threat and not acting upon it. If he didn't make the threat, he wouldn't be as much of a sucker. But it looks more is going on, and this may be part of a larger plan overall.

Israel Downs Syria Fighter Jet - Sept 2014
http://m.***.com/news/world-middle-east-29324424

Israel Bombs Nine Syrian Targets - June 2014
http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.htmlb=news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/22/israel-bombs-nine-military-targets-in-syria-after-unprovoked-cross-border-attack-kills-israeli-teen

Israel Strikes Syrian Army Targets - March 2014
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Israel-attacks-Syrian-targets-in-response-to-attack-on-IDF-jeep-345811

Israeli Plane Strikes Syrian Base - Oct 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/31/world/meast/syria-civil-war/

Obama draws a "red line" on Syrian Chemical Weapons - Sept 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/06/president-obama-and-the-red-line-on-syrias-chemical-weapons/

You are giving him too much credit. There is no bigger plan. Obama is a proven moron who is clueless. He hasn't even bothered to attend half of the daily intelligence briefing. He has no clue what is going on and doesn't really care much neither.

The only thing he cares about is if it may hurt his reelection chance. Since he isn't running again, he doesn't care.

ZenBowman
10-08-2014, 08:42 AM
Should have bombed Syria when they crossed his "red line"

No. Unless your goal is a Syria run by ISIS.

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 08:52 AM
isis in no way shape or form has anything to do with russia other than be a thorn in putins side.
if anything this so called organization would welcome such a war as to create the caliphate amidst the chaos.

I didn't say that. My point was the US getting involved in Syria to go after Assad because of the chemical weapons was not a smart strategic play for the US. It wouldn't have ended well, Americans wouldn't have been behind it, and it would have brought Putin and Obama toe to toe.

Obamas mistake was not that he didn't go after Assad and his WMD's. His mistake was making a threat and not backing it up which made him look like a powerless fool.

With ISIS, US had to get involved. ISIS's rise to power is a partial product of our failure in Iraq. ISIS is making direct threats against the US. ISIS is killing Americans. ISIS has no obvious connections to Russia, so Russia "should" support any actions against them.

I'm not saying ISIS and Putin are in bed together. They may or may not be. I'm saying fighting ISIS is a better decision then fighting Assad.

And then there are the multiple strikes by the Israelis against the Syrian Army that makes me think this is being coordinated.

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 09:00 AM
You are giving him too much credit. There is no bigger plan. Obama is a proven moron who is clueless. He hasn't even bothered to attend half of the daily intelligence briefing. He has no clue what is going on and doesn't really care much neither.

The only thing he cares about is if it may hurt his reelection chance. Since he isn't running again, he doesn't care.

Obama is a puppet. His advisors and top officials present the playbook and Obama asks Michele while she is flossing her teeth in the morning which option she thinks is best.

SWOLE_JEDI
10-08-2014, 09:16 AM
I didn't say that. My point was the US getting involved in Syria to go after Assad because of the chemical weapons was not a smart strategic play for the US. It wouldn't have ended well, Americans wouldn't have been behind it, and it would have brought Putin and Obama toe to toe.

Obamas mistake was not that he didn't go after Assad and his WMD's. His mistake was making a threat and not backing it up which made him look like a powerless fool.

With ISIS, US had to get involved. ISIS's rise to power is a partial product of our failure in Iraq. ISIS is making direct threats against the US. ISIS is killing Americans. ISIS has no obvious connections to Russia, so Russia "should" support any actions against them.

I'm not saying ISIS and Putin are in bed together. They may or may not be. I'm saying fighting ISIS is a better decision then fighting Assad.

And then there are the multiple strikes by the Israelis against the Syrian Army that makes me think this is being coordinated.

yeah but at some point the people will be for the war against assad. all it takes is time. it may be today, it may be tomorrow but one is clear, the propaganda against assad will continue until the US public says its time to make a move on him.
this has been going on for forever iraq with saddam, libya with gadhaffi, those people were not bad leaders just we were led to believe they were.
oh and if syria is getting attacked by israel. then the us is already attacking syria indirectly as we give trillions to israel. so yes it is coordinated

SWOLE_JEDI
10-08-2014, 09:23 AM
lolz... delusional

not a caliphate in my eyes but then again i believe isis is just an american tool regardless.

Tekkendo
10-08-2014, 09:30 AM
not a caliphate in my eyes but then again i believe isis is just an american tool regardless.

http://ultness.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/jerry-seinfeld-done.gif

vvvaaa
10-08-2014, 09:59 AM
Can we focus on the real issue.

The incompetence of our Pretender in Cheif for ever even allowing Russia to be the ones to handle the Syrian weapons? Could see this **** coming from a mile away.

Should have bombed Syria when they crossed his "red line"Russia did not handle any chemical weapons. Russia proposed an idea, the US liked the idea and worked on it, UN/US took care of it.

Malaki100
10-08-2014, 10:01 AM
yeah but at some point the people will be for the war against assad. all it takes is time. it may be today, it may be tomorrow but one is clear, the propaganda against assad will continue until the US public says its time to make a move on him.
this has been going on for forever iraq with saddam, libya with gadhaffi, those people were not bad leaders just we were led to believe they were.

Lol. Id hate to see what a "bad leader" is to you. Secular Arab leaders are not as crazy as Islamists, but they aren't "good leaders" by any stretch of the imagination, at least the ones you mentioned, there have been a few.


oh and if syria is getting attacked by israel. then the us is already attacking syria indirectly as we give trillions to israel. so yes it is coordinated

That was my point.