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ifguy12
07-15-2014, 07:16 PM
Sam Feltham documents a 5000 calorie a day low carb high fat diet. He doesn't gain weight according to the calories in vs. calories out formula. Here is the link: http://live.smashthefat.com/why-i-didnt-get-fat/


Is it because he probably did not absorb the legumes he was consuming?

cumminslifter
07-15-2014, 07:30 PM
calculators are estimates. if he is not gaining weight then he is not consuming enough calories

ifguy12
07-15-2014, 07:36 PM
calculators are estimates. if he is not gaining weight then he is not consuming enough calories

But he also ate 5000 calories of high carbs and low fat and gained a lot of weight.

thinkgreen
07-15-2014, 07:43 PM
I don't trust a .com but interesting nonetheless. The point it's trying to express is that "fat" doesn't make you fat - which is obvious to people around here but 99% of humans are ignorant to this fact.

leastbay
07-15-2014, 07:50 PM
Im struggling downing 3300 calories a day, he must be eating some real crap like cookies.

cumminslifter
07-15-2014, 07:59 PM
But he also ate 5000 calories of high carbs and low fat and gained a lot of weight.okay.....

bambam601
07-15-2014, 08:03 PM
Im struggling downing 3300 calories a day, he must be eating some real crap like cookies.

struggling at 3300 calories?
dafuk outta here.

cumminslifter
07-15-2014, 08:14 PM
struggling at 3300 calories?
dafuk outta here.word. brb 5k and still not full

Justin93
07-15-2014, 09:20 PM
Im struggling downing 3300 calories a day, he must be eating some real crap like cookies.

phaggot

ShadowFox08
07-15-2014, 10:39 PM
Carbs retain water weight.

Carbs also spike blood sugar more than the other two macronutrients, which lead to weight gain.

thezey
07-16-2014, 02:35 AM
perhaps it means he's spending more calories than he absorbs.

SuffolkPunch
07-16-2014, 03:20 AM
Carbs retain water weight.


Yes



Carbs also spike blood sugar more than the other two macronutrients, which lead to weight gain.

No. Excess calories lead to weight gain. You can store dietary fat without insulin.

Former300lber
07-16-2014, 03:54 AM
I bet he was holding a bunch of water weight before the diet, and when he switched over to a high fat diet and dropped the carbs he lost the water weight, but that water weight was replaced with actual fat mass.

Cliffs: Lost LBM (water), gained fat, scale stayed the same.

(This of course is just my uneducated guess on the topic at hand.)

Mrpb
07-16-2014, 07:34 AM
This thread pops up about every month. It's a self reported n=1 experiment that was poorly controlled.

davidolson22
07-16-2014, 07:41 AM
I bet he was holding a bunch of water weight before the diet, and when he switched over to a high fat diet and dropped the carbs he lost the water weight, but that water weight was replaced with actual fat mass.

Cliffs: Lost LBM (water), gained fat, scale stayed the same.

(This of course is just my uneducated guess on the topic at hand.)

This has been discussed before and that's the general consensus.

Notice on his sideview pictures, his belly gets bigger over the 3 weeks.

People intentionally gain fat and muscle weight on low carb diets all the time, it can be seen in the keto logs section.

Mrpb
07-16-2014, 07:43 AM
One other possibility: he looks like he has never worked out and hardly exercises, so he likely has poor insulin sensitivity. If he does and he consumes a high carb diet, he will get lethargic and therefor burn less calories. Which will accelerate his weight gain.

ClarkKent84
07-16-2014, 07:48 AM
Im struggling downing 3300 calories a day, he must be eating some real crap like cookies.

No kidding eating over 4k is a struggle, unless he's got 200g of fat..

bambam601
07-16-2014, 08:03 AM
No kidding eating over 4k is a struggle, unless he's got 200g of fat..

you people can't be serious.

LifeInTheGains
07-16-2014, 08:12 AM
you people can't be serious.

Not going to lie, I have trouble downing over 3300 calories a day too. No need to act negatively and tell people "dafuk outta here". For people that work all day, and only get a chance for three meals a day, 1100+ calorie meals a sitting are not the easiest to down. Especially if you're eating healthy foods with low fat content.

Granted if I ate frozen processed food and mcdonalds I could easily crank out 5000+ calories a day easy, but for how I eat it doesn't work like that. I eat the way I do because it makes me feel better mentally, and if I have to sacrifice breaking my 3600 calorie a day goal, then so be it.

bambam601
07-16-2014, 08:18 AM
Not going to lie, I have trouble downing over 3300 calories a day too. No need to act negatively and tell people "dafuk outta here". For people that work all day, and only get a chance for three meals a day, 1100+ calorie meals a sitting are not the easiest to down. Especially if you're eating healthy foods with low fat content.

Granted if I ate frozen processed food and mcdonalds I could easily crank out 5000+ calories a day easy, but for how I eat it doesn't work like that. I eat the way I do because it makes me feel better mentally, and if I have to sacrifice breaking my 3600 calorie a day goal, then so be it.

dafuk outta here.


edit: i feel honored you wasted your 1st post on me.

davidolson22
07-16-2014, 08:47 AM
Especially if you're eating healthy foods with low fat content.


dafuk outta here.

And here I am trying hard to get my fat macro high enough to hit my minimum every day.

VmissileX
07-16-2014, 09:05 AM
Or just this
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ironwill2008
07-16-2014, 09:20 AM
Sam Feltham documents a 5000 calorie a day low carb high fat diet. He doesn't gain weight according to the calories in vs. calories out formula. Here is the link: http://live.smashthefat.com/why-i-didnt-get-fat/


Is it because he probably did not absorb the legumes he was consuming?

Who cares? Besides the fact that the article was nothing more than self-reported anecdote, and on a website that sells supplements, the poor guy looks like ****.

GrowMacGrow
07-16-2014, 09:38 AM
Its not an article, its a recorded series of which a guy puts up daily vlogs over a 40 day period. Each 40 days experiments with different types of diets - as OP said.

Go on Youtube and type in 'smashthefat'.

I strongly believe its all down to the different thermic effects of the food, and it shows intresting results of improved body composition of a high fat to a high carb diet due to the smaller waist measurements.

I recommend having a look, it interesting to say the least.

davidolson22
07-16-2014, 10:01 AM
21 days is not long enough to test his "theory", since one expects to lose ~7 pounds of water weight in that period when switching to keto. He did gain 3 pounds on his diet, in only 3 weeks. so that's about 10 pounds of fat he gained (7 to counteract the water weight lost, and 3 of net weight gained). That's 10*3500 Calories= 35000 extra calories he was in taking in 3 weeks. He claims to have overeaten by 56,000 calories. Some of the difference is easily explained by his TDEE increasing due to increased calories and because I underestimate how much water weight he lost.

A lot of the food he ate was also nuts, which are known to not always be absorbed, which reduces the discrepancy even further.

This is all a much simpler explanation for what happened than his rather convoluted pseudo-science that he spew in his article.

LifeInTheGains
07-16-2014, 11:43 AM
dafuk outta here.


edit: i feel honored you wasted your 1st post on me.

You responded so it wasn't a waste. Still trying to learn here, and I'm obviously not the best with nutrition...just saying some people have trouble stomaching food more than others.

bambam601
07-16-2014, 11:52 AM
You responded so it wasn't a waste. Still trying to learn here, and I'm obviously not the best with nutrition...just saying some people have trouble stomaching food more than others.

you quoted me, why wouldn't i respond?
read the stickies. your healthy food low fat comment obviously proves that you haven't done so.

ClarkKent84
07-16-2014, 02:24 PM
you people can't be serious.

Not sure what you mean ? How many calories are you putting down a day ?

Gxp23
07-16-2014, 02:26 PM
Not sure what you mean ? How many calories are you putting down a day ?

4200, consuming between 150-200g of fat a day.

ClarkKent84
07-16-2014, 02:36 PM
4200, consuming between 150-200g of fat a day.

Is that you or BAM ? Because he's only 164 pounds and That's a lot of food for him, unless he's got an insane metabolism..

I was at about 4400 with around 150g f, 325 P and 438c ( pre/intra and post) and I'm 40 pounds heavier and an inch shorter than he is and had stalled... it wasn't fun eating 3 cups of rice at meals

Gxp23
07-16-2014, 02:40 PM
Is that you or BAM ? Because he's only 164 pounds and That's a lot of food for him, unless he's got an insane metabolism..

I was at about 4400 with around 150g f, 325 P and 438c ( pre/intra and post) and I'm 40 pounds heavier and an inch shorter than he is and had stalled... it wasn't fun eating 3 cups of rice at meals

He may be more active than you think, regardless of his height and weight.

AlwaysTryin
07-16-2014, 02:41 PM
Not going to lie, I have trouble downing over 3300 calories a day too. No need to act negatively and tell people "dafuk outta here". For people that work all day, and only get a chance for three meals a day, 1100+ calorie meals a sitting are not the easiest to down. Especially if you're eating healthy foods with low fat content.

Granted if I ate frozen processed food and mcdonalds I could easily crank out 5000+ calories a day easy, but for how I eat it doesn't work like that. I eat the way I do because it makes me feel better mentally, and if I have to sacrifice breaking my 3600 calorie a day goal, then so be it.

1000 calories is so easy.

Heck my basic staple of mince with lots of melted cheese is well over it!

ClarkKent84
07-16-2014, 07:32 PM
He may be more active than you think, regardless of his height and weight.


Could be, but he makes it sound like he's eating 10,000 calories or something... just wondering why he's giving people a hard time

Gxp23
07-16-2014, 07:34 PM
Could be, but he makes it sound like he's eating 10,000 calories or something... just wondering why he's giving people a hard time

Because helping people make something real simple is always an insult or a hassle in this place lol.