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fsujoseph
07-11-2014, 11:10 AM
The Cavs have 0 space in the cap, and Love makes 15 million

It seems any deal would have to be centered around Vareajo, as he is the only expendable player with a high salary (9.7m)

Cleveland trades: Dion Waiters (4m), Vareajo (9.7m), Anthony Bennett (5.5m), and a future first round pick

Wolves trade: Kevin Love


I just don't see a scenario where you would want to trade the #1 overall pick and assets like Vareajo + other cap filler for Love. Minny isn't the one with the power here either. They're the desperate ones. If they want Wiggins then fuk off if I was the Cavs

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:12 AM
The Cavs have 0 space in the cap, and Love makes 15 million

It seems any deal would have to be centered around Vareajo, as he is the only expendable player with a high salary (9.7m)

Cleveland trades: Dion Waiters (4m), Vareajo (9.7m), Anthony Bennett (5.5m), and a future first round pick

Wolves trade: Kevin Love


I just don't see a scenario where you would want to trade the #1 overall pick and assets like Vareajo + other cap filler for Love. Minny isn't the one with the power here either. They're the desperate ones. If they want Wiggins then fuk off if I was the Cavs

There's about a 10% chance of a deal being done without Wiggins.

If they Wolves don't get Wiggins they'll probably find better deals elsewhere (Suns, Warriors or maybe Bulls).

BullBoy8
07-11-2014, 11:12 AM
Waiters, Wiggins, Bennett, Thompson and picks for Love and Martin.

sn24
07-11-2014, 11:12 AM
I highly doubt Minnesota will do a trade without Wiggins. At least not now. Maybe at the trade deadline, but right now they should try to get Wiggins

SuperStars
07-11-2014, 11:13 AM
The Cavs have 0 space in the cap, and Love makes 15 million

It seems any deal would have to be centered around Vareajo, as he is the only expendable player with a high salary (9.7m)

Cleveland trades: Dion Waiters (4m), Vareajo (9.7m), Anthony Bennett (5.5m), and a future first round pick

Wolves trade: Kevin Love


I just don't see a scenario where you would want to trade the #1 overall pick and assets like Vareajo + other cap filler for Love. Minny isn't the one with the power here either. They're the desperate ones. If they want Wiggins then fuk off if I was the Cavs
The wolves dont need Waiters lmao. They have a chit ton of 2 guards.
The trade would be 2 future first round picks. Anthony Bennett and Wiggins

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:13 AM
Waiters, Wiggins, Bennett, Thompson and picks for Love and Martin.

I could see that if the salaries workout.

fsujoseph
07-11-2014, 11:14 AM
There's about a 10% chance of a deal being done without Wiggins.

If they Wolves don't get Wiggins they'll probably find better deals elsewhere (Suns, Warriors or maybe Bulls).

Yep, that's why they shouldn't do it. Don't turn into the Heat 2013! The Cavs have a lot of young talent on rookie deals they'll easily re-sign as opposed to keeping a big 3 with no depth. Waiters, Thompson, Bennett, etc.

fsujoseph
07-11-2014, 11:14 AM
The wolves dont need Waiters lmao. They have a chit ton of 2 guards.
The trade would be 2 future first round picks. Anthony Bennett and Wiggins

Jeff that's the thing, the salary doesn't work

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 11:19 AM
There's about a 10% chance of a deal being done without Wiggins.

If they Wolves don't get Wiggins they'll probably find better deals elsewhere (Suns, Warriors or maybe Bulls).

I doubt any team is going to give up too much for Love if he's just going to leave them after a year. At least the Cavs would know he would stay long term.

Don't know why everyone thinks the Wolves are in some position of power. They're not.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:23 AM
I doubt any team is going to give up too much for Love if he's just going to leave them after a year. At least the Cavs would know he would stay long term.

Don't know why everyone thinks the Wolves are in some position of power. They're not.

It would be a sign and trade bro. Wherever he goes it will be with a longterm contract in hand.

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 11:25 AM
It would be a sign and trade bro. Wherever he goes it will be with a longterm contract in hand.

Wouldn't Love have to consent to that? Where else has he said he would commit other than Cleveland?

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:26 AM
Wouldn't Love have to consent to that? Where else has he said he would commit other than Cleveland?

Do you think Cleveland is still off his list with LeBron there? lol.

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 11:27 AM
Do you think Cleveland is still off his list with LeBron there? lol.

wait wut

What I'm saying is, I was under the impression that if the Cavs acquired James, which they did, then that's the only place Love would be willing to commit to

imajoey
07-11-2014, 11:29 AM
lol the Twolves actually do have the power... Love is the best stretch 4 and compliment to LeBron, LeBron doesn't want to waste a year in his prime with no chance to win a title (without love they are to0 young) Therefore they will have to give up at least Wiggins

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 11:30 AM
LeBron doesn't want to waste a year in his prime with no chance to win a title (without love they are to0 young)

He said the exact opposite in his letter.

Just sayin'

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:30 AM
wait wut

What I'm saying is, I was under the impression that if the Cavs acquired James, which they did, then that's the only place Love would be willing to commit to

Then WTF are you talking about?


Love would certainly go to Cleveland now, most likely #1 on his list.

I think he'd go to Chicago, GS, or to the Suns as well. He just wants to go to a power team that has a chance. I would say if you add love to Chicago, GS or the Suns they are instantly a contender.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:32 AM
Latest word is the GS is still not putting Klay Thompson on the table. I would think any deal with GS would have to include Klay.

Krunk Fu
07-11-2014, 11:33 AM
Varejao is one of LeBron's best friends... no way he gets traded.

Anderson also leaked LBJ would be back last month on a radio show in Brazil.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2014/06/anderson_varejao_says_lebron_j.html

cliffs: Anderson isn't going anywhere.

Apollo 13
07-11-2014, 11:33 AM
Waiters, Wiggins, Bennett, Thompson and picks for Love and Martin.

fawk that...that's to much. I don't care for empty stat Kevin Love ass anyways. He can't play defense either. I rather just keep those players and bring in Miller and Allen. Thompson can rebound just as well as Love and who knows Bennett may be a fawking beast next year.

fsujoseph
07-11-2014, 11:33 AM
I think the Suns should nab Love

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:36 AM
I think the Suns should nab Love

Wolves would probably want Dragic in that deal. Not sure the Suns would be willing to go that route. I like Bledsoe but he doesn't make a lot of sense when you have Rubio already. Dragic at least can play both 1/2.

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 11:36 AM
Bennett may be a fawking beast next year.

Dat optimism

VTheKing
07-11-2014, 11:39 AM
As if any sane GM would give up a future superstar just to get a player a year earlier. If Love is traded to the Cavs, I think people ITT will be very disappointed with the return.

Krunk Fu
07-11-2014, 11:40 AM
fawk that...that's to much. I don't care for empty stat Kevin Love ass anyways. He can't play defense either. I rather just keep those players and bring in Miller and Allen. Thompson can rebound just as well as Love and who knows Bennett may be a fawking beast next year.

I tend to agree. Also have picks to work with next year. That being said, if they can get Love for picks + Bennett & Dion or Wiggins (prob wiggins) it will happen.

LeBron mentioned Dion in his letter, so I'd have to think that has some baring on what happens. He didn't mention Wiggins (maybe because it was written prior to the draft).

MCrow
07-11-2014, 11:41 AM
As if any sane GM would give up a future superstar just to get a player a year earlier. If Love is traded to the Cavs, I think people ITT will be very disappointed with the return.

Again, it would be a sign and trade. Much better than trying to get him in FA. You don't know how the season would panout in Cleveland. If they don't look that good, Love probably goes eslewhere next season.

evilsteve02
07-11-2014, 11:55 AM
The Cavs have 0 space in the cap, and Love makes 15 million

It seems any deal would have to be centered around Vareajo, as he is the only expendable player with a high salary (9.7m)

Cleveland trades: Dion Waiters (4m), Vareajo (9.7m), Anthony Bennett (5.5m), and a future first round pick

Wolves trade: Kevin Love


I just don't see a scenario where you would want to trade the #1 overall pick and assets like Vareajo + other cap filler for Love. Minny isn't the one with the power here either. They're the desperate ones. If they want Wiggins then fuk off if I was the Cavs



Last month was a "bad" month for Dan Gilberts casino, it only made 24million....doubt he cares about the luxury tax when that is only one of his thriving businesses. ... just saying...money isnt an issue for the guy when it comes to the Cavs

ADMirIN
07-11-2014, 12:22 PM
There's about a 10% chance of a deal being done without Wiggins.

If they Wolves don't get Wiggins they'll probably find better deals elsewhere (Suns, Warriors or maybe Bulls).

you do know that Love can dictate the trade right?

brb announce won't sign extension with anyone except the Cavs, then no team will want him

fuark East is gonna be a joke next year

Krunk Fu
07-11-2014, 12:26 PM
Last month was a "bad" month for Dan Gilberts casino, it only made 24million....doubt he cares about the luxury tax when that is only one of his thriving businesses. ... just saying...money isnt an issue for the guy when it comes to the Cavs

He has like 18 companies.

Estimated net worth: $3.6 billion lmao

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 12:30 PM
you do know that Love can dictate the trade right?

brb announce won't sign extension with anyone except the Cavs, then no team will want him

fuark East is gonna be a joke next year

This.

I don't understand why people can't see that. Cavs/Love have the power, lol@the thought of the Wolves forcing Wiggins from the Cavs.

You'll take Bennett/Waiters and you'll like it.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 12:37 PM
you do know that Love can dictate the trade right?

brb announce won't sign extension with anyone except the Cavs, then no team will want him

fuark East is gonna be a joke next year

Love just said he is intrigued with the idea of going to Cavs, he has said in the past he wants to go to a team that will go to the playoffs and has a chance to win. So, that would also mean he hasn't ruled out GS, Suns, Chicago...ect.


Of course he has a say, but anyone with half a brain knows he doesn't want to play in MN this year.

HarpoonBrah
07-11-2014, 12:41 PM
you do know that Love can dictate the trade right?

brb announce won't sign extension with anyone except the Cavs, then no team will want him

fuark East is gonna be a joke next year

Mind fuking blown , he can easily do this

Irving Wiggins Lebron Love

MCrow
07-11-2014, 12:56 PM
Wolves have firmly rejected the Waiters+Bennett+2 first rounders offer.

Unbreakable09
07-11-2014, 01:01 PM
Wolves have firmly rejected the Waiters+Bennett+2 first rounders offer.

in4 backfire.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:04 PM
in4 backfire.

I doubt it. Waiters is a nice player but not that great. Bennett might be better than last year but will never be that good. The 1st rounders they get are likely to be late 1st rounders. It would be a garbage trade. The Wolves need to get back a possible franchise cornerstone sort of asset. That means, Wiggins, Dragic, high draft pick, or Klay Thompson. I think they can get one of those type of players. They may not get much in addition though.

wickedman
07-11-2014, 01:04 PM
I would tell them to kiss my ass then to be honest, that offer is a lot better than any other offer on the table. I would just wait until the deadline if I was the Cavs and test the waters with what they have now.

Apollo 13
07-11-2014, 01:05 PM
Wolves have firmly rejected the Waiters+Bennett+2 first rounders offer.

where are u even getting your news. The Cav's havn't offered sh!t yet and if they did offered that Wolves would be stupid not to take that. Are they just going to let their star player walk away for nothing next year?

cowboyhaze
07-11-2014, 01:07 PM
Love, Lebron, Wiggins, Irving would be the new dream team, it would be smart for the Cavs to get him.


if not Love and Golden State would also do big things.

HarpoonBrah
07-11-2014, 01:07 PM
I doubt it. Waiters is a nice player but not that great. Bennett might be better than last year but will never be that good. The 1st rounders they get are likely to be late 1st rounders. It would be a garbage trade. The Wolves need to get back a possible franchise cornerstone sort of asset. That means, Wiggins, Dragic, high draft pick, or Klay Thompson. I think they can get one of those type of players. They may not get much in addition though.

If Love says He'll only sign with Cavs no team will offer anything

They'd have to trade him for whatever the Cavs will give or get nothing

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:11 PM
I would tell them to kiss my ass then to be honest, that offer is a lot better than any other offer on the table. I would just wait until the deadline if I was the Cavs and test the waters with what they have now.

I think a darkhorse could be the Bulls.

Maybe the Wolves would be intersted in McDermott, Butler, the rights to Mirotic and some picks?

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:13 PM
If Love says He'll only sign with Cavs no team will offer anything

They'd have to trade him for whatever the Cavs will give or get nothing

And why the phuck do you think he'd do that given he's never said anything of the sort?

You guys keep forgeting that things change. If Love doesn't go there this year, they probably sign other players in his place that make it pretty hard to sign him as FA next year.

yourname2221
07-11-2014, 01:15 PM
fawk that...that's to much. I don't care for empty stat Kevin Love ass anyways. He can't play defense either. I rather just keep those players and bring in Miller and Allen. Thompson can rebound just as well as Love and who knows Bennett may be a fawking beast next year.

Wait, wait. So He can't play defense but you want them to over pay for two aging 3 point shooters who don't play d either. And Thompson can rebound just as well as Love, come on that's a weak argument to keep him over Love. Almost every advanced metric goes Love's way except ORB% and as a stretch 4 you wouldn't expect his to be. Same TO% with double the usage, 5 times the AST%, >DTRG, DWS, FT%, TS%, PER. Love with Lebron/Irving/Varejao is an all around dangerous combo.

Apollo 13
07-11-2014, 01:23 PM
Wait, wait. So He can't play defense but you want them to over pay for two aging 3 point shooters who don't play d either. And Thompson can rebound just as well as Love, come on that's a weak argument to keep him over Love. Almost every advanced metric goes Love's way except ORB% and as a stretch 4 you wouldn't expect his to be. Same TO% with double the usage, 5 times the AST%, >DTRG, DWS, FT%, TS%, PER. Love with Lebron/Irving/Varejao is an all around dangerous combo.

no you moron they get vet minimum...You don't trade Wiggins because Kyrie and Love equals no defense. Who would play defense with that line up? Wiggins takes pressure off of Lebron. You're looking at Loves empty stats and think they mean anything.

HarpoonBrah
07-11-2014, 01:25 PM
Thompson + Waiters + Pick + some garbage player should be more than enough for Love

Those 2 players are young, good players with a lot of potential

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:31 PM
no you moron they get vet minimum...You don't trade Wiggins because Kyrie and Love equals no defense. Who would play defense with that line up? Wiggins takes pressure off of Lebron. You're looking at Loves empty stats and think they mean anything.

Wait until they trade for Love and you are exposed as a proven moron. Love's defense is his rebounding, boxing out and he does OK in zone, which is what most teams play these days. If he has to cover a guyin iso, he's gabage but that doesn't happen a lot.

wickedman
07-11-2014, 01:32 PM
Thompson + Waiters + Pick + some garbage player should be more than enough for Love

Those 2 players are young, good players with a lot of potential

It is, but unfortunately LeBron and TT are friends I believe, and have the same agent.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:32 PM
Thompson + Waiters + Pick + some garbage player should be more than enough for Love

Those 2 players are young, good players with a lot of potential

Again, they're not taking anything less than a potential franchise sort of player. I wouldn't either at this point. If trade deadline comes around and nobody wants to do that they can probably get a better deal than that elsewhere.

yourname2221
07-11-2014, 01:32 PM
no you moron they get vet minimum...You don't trade Wiggins because Kyrie and Love equals no defense. Who would play defense with that line up? Wiggins takes pressure off of Lebron. You're looking at Loves empty stats and think they mean anything.

Here you go with the 'empty' stats line again, how are they empty? Cause he played on a **** team? He had a legit 17 and 8 center playing next to him and still pulled down 12.5 a game, I guess he's just really lucky huh.

Lebron would love to have a p&r player like Love who can stretch the floor and post up; both better than he had in Bosh I might add. Miller is getting $5+ mil offers from his two favorite suitors in OKC and Mem. I cant see him signing for the vet min in Cleveland just to play with Lebron again and lol you can have ol Ray Ray for a year even with Love. They play in the East, they can make the finals without defense. Adding Love makes them possible to go every year that they both are there.

Apollo 13
07-11-2014, 01:35 PM
Wait until they trade for Love and you are exposed as a proven moron. Love's defense is his rebounding, boxing out and he does OK in zone, which is what most teams play these days. If he has to cover a guyin iso, he's gabage but that doesn't happen a lot.

already have guys that can rebound in TT and AV and they both play defense...well AV more then TT. I don't care if they trade for Love. All I'm saying is it's not for Wiggins. Team doesn't need a bunch of injury prone players. Kyrie and AV are already injury prone and to throw Love in there makes it even worst and on top of the bad defense.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:36 PM
Here you go with the 'empty' stats line again, how are they empty? Cause he played on a **** team? He had a legit 17 and 8 center playing next to him and still pulled down 12.5 a game, I guess he's just really lucky huh.

Lebron would love to have a p&r player like Love who can stretch the floor and post up; both better than he had in Bosh I might add. Miller is getting $5+ mil offers from his two favorite suitors in OKC and Mem. I cant see him signing for the vet min in Cleveland just to play with Lebron again and lol you can have ol Ray Ray for a year even with Love. They play in the East, they can make the finals without defense. Adding Love makes them possible to go every year that they both are there.

Love would be perfect with LeBron. Love will take a guy out of the lane which will help LeBron get more easy shots, LeBron in the lane will get Love more open shots outside. Love can crash the boards and is a great passer as well, could see TD passes to LeBron from basket to basket. Love would really take care of some of the things LeBron isn't a GOAT at.

The only thing I question is how this team works with Kyrie as the PG. He's going to have to be more of a pass first type of guy than he is right now or it isn't going to be all that great.

yourname2221
07-11-2014, 01:38 PM
already have guys that can rebound in TT and AV and they both play defense...well AV more then TT. I don't care if they trade for Love. All I'm saying is it's not for Wiggins. Team doesn't need a bunch of injury prone players. Kyrie and AV are already injury prone and to throw Love in their makes it even worst and on top of the bad defense.

You're fishin brah, he missed 5 games last season.

Apollo 13
07-11-2014, 01:44 PM
You're fishin brah, he missed 5 games last season.

and that's 80 games in the last 3 years.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:46 PM
already have guys that can rebound in TT and AV and they both play defense...well AV more then TT. I don't care if they trade for Love. All I'm saying is it's not for Wiggins. Team doesn't need a bunch of injury prone players. Kyrie and AV are already injury prone and to throw Love in their makes it even worst and on top of the bad defense.

TT coming off the bench would be great. Would be the best rebounding team in the league, most likely with Love, AV and TT off the bench. Love isn't injury prone, outside of the freak thing with his hand he missed less than 20 games in the other 5 seasons, that's 4 games a season to injury on average. Last year he missed 5 games but could have played in most of those.

MCrow
07-11-2014, 01:47 PM
and that's 80 games in the last 3 years.

The hand thing was a freak accident sort of thing, not the type of injury an "injury prone" player gets.

yourname2221
07-11-2014, 01:50 PM
and that's 80 games in the last 3 years.

Yes, you clearly remember his freak hand injury. Def injury prone. Bruh keeping Wiggins and TT is not worth losing Love over. The downsides on the defensive side are more than made up on the offensive side and on the glass. That just means bron is gonna have to work harder on D and he can take off more plays on the offensive end with Kyrie and Love. This is a star's league now. Having them three in the East it's pretty much a lock on the finals every year, and either way you look at it Wiggins potential is there, but Love is already proven.

dsync
07-11-2014, 01:58 PM
Do people really thing Wiggins is going to come out and immediately dominate? IMHO he's realistically gonna take about 4 years or so, if everything goes well, to reach all-star+ level status.

Wakiza33
07-11-2014, 02:22 PM
I tend to agree. Also have picks to work with next year. That being said, if they can get Love for picks + Bennett & Dion or Wiggins (prob wiggins) it will happen.

LeBron mentioned Dion in his letter, so I'd have to think that has some baring on what happens. He didn't mention Wiggins (maybe because it was written prior to the draft).

It was written last night. However, tampering rules may not allow him to mention Wiggins, because idk if Wiggins has signed a contract yet.

Wakiza33
07-11-2014, 02:24 PM
Love would be perfect with LeBron. Love will take a guy out of the lane which will help LeBron get more easy shots, LeBron in the lane will get Love more open shots outside. Love can crash the boards and is a great passer as well, could see TD passes to LeBron from basket to basket. Love would really take care of some of the things LeBron isn't a GOAT at.

The only thing I question is how this team works with Kyrie as the PG. He's going to have to be more of a pass first type of guy than he is right now or it isn't going to be all that great.


Kyrie and other pieces for Love and Rubio? So crazy it makes sense.

Wakiza33
07-11-2014, 02:30 PM
where are u even getting your news. The Cav's havn't offered sh!t yet and if they did offered that Wolves would be stupid not to take that. Are they just going to let their star player walk away for nothing next year?

It's been offered. Dude there are multiple offers out there. They won't budge to Cleveland unless Wiggins or Kyrie is involved.

I live in MN, and people here say Flip Saunders(GM) would rather let Love walk then give him away. Two first round dream team picks ain't worth ****.

yummy22
07-11-2014, 02:34 PM
Do people really thing Wiggins is going to come out and immediately dominate? IMHO he's realistically gonna take about 4 years or so, if everything goes well, to reach all-star+ level status.

Ceiling wiggins is still worse then love

MCrow
07-11-2014, 02:37 PM
Ceiling wiggins is still worse then love

Wiggins still has a questionable offensive game. You can love his defensive game all you want, he won't be a star if he never develops more scoring ability. Lockdown defenders at SG/SF that can't score are just journeymen fringe starters. If he's going to be the best player at his position like Love is, he's going to have to be a much better scorer.

Day1086
07-11-2014, 02:37 PM
I don't see love to Cleveland happening at all.

Cavs won't want to trade Wiggins, and without Wiggins gsw/boston/phoenix/bulls can all offer better packages. And 100% love would re-sign with GSW or Chicago

dsync
07-11-2014, 02:41 PM
Still don't get why they don't just offer Miami a S&T deal to get C.Bosh 90% of K. Love's Offensive ability, with far better defense + maturity + championship exp with Lebron + get to keep Wiggins

MCrow
07-11-2014, 02:46 PM
Sounds like Bosh just signed a deal with Miami. So maybe Rockets in the running for Love now? Not sure what they'd give up.

Krunk Fu
07-11-2014, 02:46 PM
Still don't get why they don't just offer Miami a S&T deal to get C.Bosh 90% of K. Love's Offensive ability, with far better defense + maturity + championship exp with Lebron + get to keep Wiggins

You realize Bosh is a free agent, right? Why would Bosh resign with Miami to be traded to Minny? He'd sign to STAY in Miami.

Sports misc has gone full potato today


I don't see love to Cleveland happening at all.

Cavs won't want to trade Wiggins, and without Wiggins gsw/boston/phoenix/bulls can all offer better packages. And 100% love would re-sign with GSW or Chicago

Long term it could be more beneficial for the Cavs. Did Love say he'd sign an extension for those teams?

http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/golden_state_warriors
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/chicago_bulls

Not seeing too much Love action regarding both of them, especially the Bulls.

Day1086
07-11-2014, 02:53 PM
You realize Bosh is a free agent, right? Why would Bosh resign with Miami to be traded to Minny? He'd sign to STAY in Miami.

Sports misc has gone full potato today



Long term it could be more beneficial for the Cavs. Did Love say he'd sign an extension for those teams?

http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/golden_state_warriors
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/chicago_bulls

Not seeing too much Love action regarding both of them, especially the Bulls.

Lee Barnes Green 1st is better than anything non-wiggins that cleveland can offer

And Love has said from the start that he prefers gsw/chi, he already shut down a trade with cleveland before the draft, but Lebron being there now adds them to the list of teams he'd be willing to play for.

yourname2221
07-11-2014, 02:55 PM
Still don't get why they don't just offer Miami a S&T deal to get C.Bosh 90% of K. Love's Offensive ability, with far better defense + maturity + championship exp with Lebron + get to keep Wiggins

Because Bosh is 30 and will cost more.

dsync
07-11-2014, 02:56 PM
You realize Bosh is a free agent, right? Why would Bosh resign with Miami to be traded to Minny? He'd sign to STAY in Miami.

Sports misc has gone full potato today



Long term it could be more beneficial for the Cavs. Did Love say he'd sign an extension for those teams?

http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/golden_state_warriors
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/chicago_bulls

Not seeing too much Love action regarding both of them, especially the Bulls.

Wasn't talking about the wolves - I was saying, why doesn't Cleveland pick him up.

Assuming they would want Bosh they'd have to sign and trade - because of the cap...

Krunk Fu
07-11-2014, 02:57 PM
Lee Barnes Green 1st is better than anything non-wiggins that cleveland can offer

And Love has said from the start that he prefers gsw/chi, he already shut down a trade with cleveland before the draft, but Lebron being there now adds them to the list of teams he'd be willing to play for.

I wouldn't want to give up Waiters or Wiggins. Dion can go beast mode... with LeBron = money.

I just haven't been reading much about Love outside of Cleveland right now.

wickedman
07-11-2014, 03:08 PM
The Wigginsless package is still better than anything anyone else can offer. LoL at the idea that guys who need to get paid / already are getting paid is more valuable to Minnesota than guys on their rookie deals, including a guy who was the #1 pick a year ago. Is there any reason they couldn't trade the Miami picks they have as well which will be legit?

fsujoseph
07-11-2014, 03:50 PM
The Wigginsless package is still better than anything anyone else can offer. LoL at the idea that guys who need to get paid / already are getting paid is more valuable to Minnesota than guys on their rookie deals, including a guy who was the #1 pick a year ago. Is there any reason they couldn't trade the Miami picks they have as well which will be legit?

The Warriors offered David Lee, Harrison Barnes, and a 1st round pick. You're telling me Waiters and Thompson is better than that?

csjuve
07-11-2014, 04:20 PM
Waiters(22 years old) + thompson(23 years old) + bennett(21 years old) + 1 or 2 1st round picks

That would be semi interesting to Minnesota I would think. Waiters + thompson arent terrible players. If bennet plays better, then 1 of those 2 picks turns out decent. its worth it imo. David lee is already 31, Harrison barnes is only averaging like 9 pts and 4 rebounds a game..... Waiters is averaging 15.9 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assist and tristian thompson is averaging 11.2 points and 9.2 rebounds.

Minnesota isnt going to win now, they arent in win now mode, so why grab someone who will be on the back end of their career by the time you are competing for deep playoff runs, instead of getting young players with pretty good upside.

wickedman
07-11-2014, 04:39 PM
The Warriors offered David Lee, Harrison Barnes, and a 1st round pick. You're telling me Waiters and Thompson is better than that?

Lee = Old and makes $15k a year.
Barnes = Took a step back last year and almost off rookie deal.
1st round pick = Bottom 10 pick.

Waiters = 22 years old, rookie contract, improving every year.
Bennett = #1 pick last year, was drafted injured, in shape and on rookie deal for foreseeable future.
Miami 1st rounder = Perfect because it's Top 10 protected, and the Heat should be a #10-#18 pick with Bosh and Wade still scrubbing out.
+ they have other teams 1st rounders with protections. One of which is the Kings I believe.

Thompson isn't going anywhere, friends with Lebron and same agent. And yeah I would rather have the Cavs deal unless GS threw in Klay.

LikeAMachine
07-17-2014, 01:45 PM
This.

I don't understand why people can't see that. Cavs/Love have the power, lol@the thought of the Wolves forcing Wiggins from the Cavs.

You'll take Bennett/Waiters and you'll like it.

lmao