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DanM95
07-05-2014, 02:48 AM
Hi guys I'm currently recovering from an ED where I consumed around 1200-1900 calories a day. In the past 2-3 weeks I have started eating 2400-2500 calories a day, My stats are 18 years old, 5 foot 9 and a half,I logged my results, here they are - Thursday 12th June - 9 Stone
Monday 16th June - 8 stone 13
Thursday 19th June - 9 stone 1
Saturday 21st June - 8 stone 13.8
Sunday June 22nd June 8 stone 13
Monday 23rd June - 8 Stone 12.6.
Tuesday 24th June - 8 stone 13.2
Wednesday 25th June 8stone13.2
Thursday 26th June 8 stone 12.6
Friday 27th June - 9 stone
Saturday 28th June - 9 stone
Sunday 29th June - 9 stone. However when I raised to 2700-2800 these were the results from the first 4 days - Monday 30th June - 9 stone 1 Tuesday 1st July - 9 Stone 6 Wednesday 2nd July - 9 Stone 4 Thursday 3rd July - 9 Stone 4 Friday 4th July - 9 Stone 5 Is the weight gain just water retention + my current digestive problems?,
I'm currently really bloated / distended and having trouble going for regular #2s. What would u recommend guys? Thanks, Dan

AlwaysTryin
07-05-2014, 03:44 AM
Can you convert the measurements to kg or lb?

DanM95
07-05-2014, 04:13 AM
2400-2500 calories a day - Thursday 12th June - 57kg
Monday 16th June - 56kg
Thursday 19th June - 57kg
Saturday 21st June - 56kg
Sunday June 22nd 56.5kg
Monday 23rd June - 56.5kg
Tuesday 24th June - 56.7kg
Wednesday 25th June - 56.4kg
Thursday 26th June - 55.7kg
Friday 27th June - 57kg
Saturday 28th June - 57kg
Sunday 29th June - 57kg 2700-2800 calories a day - Monday 30th June - 57.6kg Tuesday 1st July - 59.8kg Wednesday 2nd July - 58.9kg Thursday 3rd July - 58.9kg Friday 4th July - 59.4kg

AlwaysTryin
07-05-2014, 04:28 AM
I wouldn't be going to 3000.

DanM95
07-05-2014, 04:50 AM
I wouldn't be going to 3000.

What range then?

SuffolkPunch
07-05-2014, 04:58 AM
You just made a change. 4 days is not enough to evaluate it. 2 weeks would be better.

Mrpb
07-05-2014, 05:26 AM
On 2400-2500 you gained ~1kg in two weeks. That was perfect.

Now you're eating 2700-2800 and you feel bloated, you gained 2.4kg in one week. If this is right you're going way too quick.

Personally I would go back to 2600 cal now. Then give it two weeks before you adjust.

DanM95
07-05-2014, 06:03 AM
On 2400-2500 you gained ~1kg in two weeks. That was perfect.

Now you're eating 2700-2800 and you feel bloated, you gained 2.4kg in one week. If this is right you're going way too quick.

Personally I would go back to 2600 cal now. Then give it two weeks before you adjust.
TBH I first got bloated when i started eating around 2000-2200 cals a day, which was about 3 months ago now. This is a really confusing time for me right now as I'm trying to recover from an ED and get healthy again, but I keep getting different anwsers regarding how many calories I need - http://www.youreatopia.com/blog/2011/9/14/do-i-need-2500-calories.html and http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/how-many-calories-do-teenagers-need.aspx?CategoryID=51&SubCategoryID=165

Mrpb
07-05-2014, 06:53 AM
I keep getting different anwsers regarding how many calories I need

Any website or calculator can not tell you how many calories you really need.

Going by what you wrote:
Monday 16th June - 56kg
Thursday 19th June - 57kg
Saturday 21st June - 56kg
Sunday June 22nd 56.5kg
Monday 23rd June - 56.5kg
Tuesday 24th June - 56.7kg
Wednesday 25th June - 56.4kg
Thursday 26th June - 55.7kg
Friday 27th June - 57kg
Saturday 28th June - 57kg

You probably gained about 1kg in those 12 days. That was a good calorie amount for you.

So eat 2500 or 2600 calories. Don't overthink it.

Start weighing yourself only once a week.

What lifting program are you following?

DanM95
07-05-2014, 07:01 AM
Currently doing SS Beginner Bench 3x5, Deadlift 3x5, with 50pounds, I currently don't have the strength to do squats so replaced them with Hammer Curls with dumbbells or curling with EZ Bar 10x10

SuffolkPunch
07-05-2014, 07:04 AM
You replaced squats with curls??

What do you mean you don't have the strength to do them? What about the empty bar? What about bodyweight squats?

DanM95
07-05-2014, 07:06 AM
You replaced squats with curls??

What do you mean you don't have the strength to do them? What about the empty bar? What about bodyweight squats?

Would squatting with 2 dumbbells (4 pounds each) be beneficial?

Mrpb
07-05-2014, 07:09 AM
Would squatting with 2 dumbbells (4 pounds each) be beneficial?

Why don't you use your barbel for squatting?

SuffolkPunch
07-05-2014, 07:10 AM
Would squatting with 2 dumbbells (4 pounds each) be beneficial?
If that is as much as you can do then do it. If you could do a lot more then no, it would be a waste of time.

DanM95
07-05-2014, 10:58 AM
On 2400-2500 you gained ~1kg in two weeks. That was perfect.

Now you're eating 2700-2800 and you feel bloated, you gained 2.4kg in one week. If this is right you're going way too quick.

Personally I would go back to 2600 cal now. Then give it two weeks before you adjust.

If you look at my first weigh-in result on 2,400-2,500 cals you will notice I'm weighing in at 9 stone (55kg), however then it dips and raises and on the last day in the 2400-2500 range It went back to 9 stone?. I have heard that when recovering from Restrictive Eating your metabolism actually revs up and is faster than normal? Is this correct?. I have also heard that initial weight gain CAN be water weight / Edema / constipation and that you can only realise the true weight gain after the water weight / constipation clears, can anyone who has been through this shed some light?

Mrpb
07-05-2014, 11:55 AM
If you look at my first weigh-in result on 2,400-2,500 cals you will notice I'm weighing in at 9 stone (55kg), however then it dips and raises and on the last day in the 2400-2500 range It went back to 9 stone?. I have heard that when recovering from Restrictive Eating your metabolism actually revs up and is faster than normal? Is this correct?. I have also heard that initial weight gain CAN be water weight / Edema / constipation and that you can only realise the true weight gain after the water weight / constipation clears, can anyone who has been through this shed some light?

The fluctuations you're seeing are completely normal.

Here are my weigh ins, in the second column. The third column is the average weight of the last week.

http://i.imgur.com/m82zRQX.png

My recommendation for you is to eat 2500-2600 calories and follow Starting Strength including squats.

GuinnessPower
07-05-2014, 12:04 PM
Use the smith machine and squat with an empty bar, even if you can only do 3 its a start.

DanM95
07-06-2014, 12:56 AM
The thing is this bloat makes me want to go on a cut but I'm only like 9 stone 4-6. Here are some pics of my bloat. Is it fat or more likely bloat or constipation?

Mrpb
07-06-2014, 01:15 AM
The thing is this bloat makes me want to go on a cut but I'm only like 9 stone 4-6. Here are some pics of my bloat. Is it fat or more likely bloat or constipation?

It doesn't look too bad,

But I can imagine a bloat is uncomfortable. Find out which foods make you feel bloated. Is it large amounts of carbs? dairy? milk? wheat? etc.

Eat more fats, that can help you feel less bloated.

DanM95
07-06-2014, 01:41 AM
It doesn't look too bad,

But I can imagine a bloat is uncomfortable. Find out which foods make you feel bloated. Is it large amounts of carbs? dairy? milk? wheat? etc.

Eat more fats, that can help you feel less bloated.
Ye it is uncomfortable, it's like when I breath out it feels heavy and like full of air, if I had to guess I can only think its the carbs as I've upped my calories recently?

Mrpb
07-06-2014, 02:09 AM
Ye it is uncomfortable, it's like when I breath out it feels heavy and like full of air, if I had to guess I can only think its the carbs as I've upped my calories recently?

It could very well be the higher level of carbs...

but it could also be specific foods like grains, milk etc..

when you're bulking it's easier to get bloated.

maybe you will also feel better if you eat smaller portions every 2-3 hours

experiment and you will find out.