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bodyhard
06-17-2014, 11:26 AM
As a lot of you know during my accident my left clavicle was f'ck ed up. I have been holding off getting surgery. The more I have been training the worst it is getting. Anyway now it appears it must be pinching some nerve as I am losing strength/feel from my shoulder all the way down to my hand. I noticed it even more last night while benching. No matter how hard I grasped the bar I had no strength in my grip whatsoever. And my number dropped down to 225LBS. I am going to need surgery sooner than I thought. 😵

DeTazMan
06-17-2014, 11:36 AM
Not Good BH.. Wouldnt let it go too much longer, and I am sure you will bounce right back

induced_drag
06-17-2014, 11:48 AM
As a lot of you know during my accident my left clavicle was f'ck ed up. I have been holding off getting surgery. The more I have been training the worst it is getting. Anyway now it appears it must be pinching some nerve as I am losing strength/feel from my shoulder all the way down to my hand. I noticed it even more last night while benching. No matter how hard I grasped the bar I had no strength in my grip whatsoever. And my number dropped down to 225LBS. I am going to need surgery sooner than I thought. ��

Have you tried a chirpo? (a good one)

Nerve impingement can often be treated non-surgically. I also broke a collarbone that healed out of alignment.

Something that I noticed is when I am on caloric surplus (and carrying more water), I too will get numbness all the way down to my hand. It is often worst after sleeping. At times I will wake up and my arm is 'dead'. Just dialing back carbs a touch, watching salt, or drinking more water helps out a ton.

When your muscles are swole, they take up a lot of space and can put pressure on surrounding nerves. My chiro helped with this in a few cases.

As a member of the former 'banged up' club, dealing with lingering effects can suck....but hopefully you can find a way to do it without getting cut open.

bodyhard
06-17-2014, 12:47 PM
ID, I am going to need othorscopic (sp) surgery as the bone is rubbing and actually protruding out and you can see it. I'll take a picture of it.

DuracellBunny
06-17-2014, 01:43 PM
My training partner had this happen, he dropped from repping 3 plates on bench to 1 plate. It turned out the reason was actually deadlift related. Deadlifting under over all the time (instead of switching to over under) had created an imbalance between his traps which was pulling one of his discs out of line, causing the strength loss in one arm. After a few months of double overhand the problem resolved itself.

I know you have a number of injuries, but I also know you have been doing some PL style training, so I have to ask, what grip do you use?

Old-Time-Lifter
06-17-2014, 02:57 PM
My training partner had this happen, he dropped from repping 3 plates on bench to 1 plate. It turned out the reason was actually deadlift related. Deadlifting under over all the time (instead of switching to over under) had created an imbalance between his traps which was pulling one of his discs out of line, causing the strength loss in one arm. After a few months of double overhand the problem resolved itself.

I know you have a number of injuries, but I also know you have been doing some PL style training, so I have to ask, what grip do you use?

Sounds like this is a lingering injury from the car wreck however...

JimmyJonny
06-17-2014, 03:16 PM
You'll get past it BH, you always do.

I'm kinda facing the same situation. I had to stop working this week. I gotta have a hip replacement and the time is getting close. I had 1 surgery and it got me about 6 years more out of it but it's shot now ( was hit by a car when I was a kid ).

I hope it works out for ya, and it will, you been down before, it's no different.

DuracellBunny
06-17-2014, 03:31 PM
Sounds like this is a lingering injury from the car wreck however...

I know, but it was fresh in my mind. As BH will have some structural imbalances due to injuries, mixed grip in his case may not be the best idea (if he uses it).

bodyhard
06-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Yeah it is from the accident, I was suppose to get surgery way back when but I had had enough surgeries and I did not want to do another one if I did not need it.

The bone is getting inflamed I know that for sure, what I did not know was I would start losing strength/feel.

I was benching over 375lbs and I could not get 3 reps with 225lbs as my hand just had no strength at all. Right side goes up not problem left arm shaking and no feel, like there is no blood circulation.... :(

DuracellBunny
06-17-2014, 03:41 PM
Yeah it is from the accident, I was suppose to get surgery way back when but I had had enough surgeries and I did not want to do another one if I did not need it.

The bone is getting inflamed I know that for sure, what I did not know was I would start losing strength/feel.

I was benching over 375lbs and I could not get 3 reps with 225lbs as my hand just had no strength at all. Right side goes up not problem left arm shaking and no feel, like there is no blood circulation.... :(

Can you tense/flex it as much as the other side?

bodyhard
06-17-2014, 03:44 PM
Can you tense/flex it as much as the other side?

Nope not at all, I close my first and it feels like I have nothing there, my right hand I do a fist and it feels like a sledge hammer.

DuracellBunny
06-17-2014, 03:53 PM
Nope not at all, I close my first and it feels like I have nothing there, my right hand I do a fist and it feels like a sledge hammer.

It definitely sounds like the nerve then. Something has either moved even further out of place or has swolen. If you are lucky it's just swelling and even though you may need surgery for numerous reasons you may not neceesarily need it for this. You know your own body better than anybody, but it's possible you have dodged a bullet and when the swelling goes down the pressure will come off the nerve.

bodyhard
06-17-2014, 03:59 PM
It definitely sounds like the nerve then. Something has either moved even further out of place or has swolen. If you are lucky it's just swelling and even though you may need surgery for numerous reasons you may not neceesarily need it for this. You know your own body better than anybody, but it's possible you have dodged a bullet and when the swelling goes down the pressure will come off the nerve.

Trust me the more I can avoid surgery I will. I am going to go check it out, but not this weekend or next this is my birthday weekend and my sister decided to get married this weekend in my back yard so I am celebrating my birthday next weekend!!

virtualbrian
06-17-2014, 04:05 PM
Have you tried to ice the shoulder to reduce swelling and inflammation? It could help temporarily.

Corbi
06-17-2014, 04:26 PM
Maybe it's a tumor?

deadwoodgregg
06-17-2014, 04:29 PM
Maybe it's a tumor?http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/45/4530014b377f56bf21da273fc5a92396594b0299c05eb15c46 6995517f728b30.jpg

Plateauplower
06-17-2014, 04:32 PM
If it can be done arthroscopically the recover time won't be nearly as bad as if they need to cut you open. You will be able to blow their minds at the rehab therapy....sounds like a nerve issue though.

frozensparky
06-17-2014, 05:02 PM
When your muscles are swole, they take up a lot of space and can put pressure on surrounding nerves. My chiro helped with this in a few cases.


Probably wouldn't hurt to try a chiro to see if you get some relief. I would also recommend a rolfer. When I'm bulkier I tend to wake up with a dead left arm (not even sleeping on it). I go to a rolfer once in awhile and she is able to open up the pinched nerves and gives me a lot of relief.

induced_drag
06-17-2014, 05:58 PM
Probably wouldn't hurt to try a chiro to see if you get some relief. I would also recommend a rolfer. When I'm bulkier I tend to wake up with a dead left arm (not even sleeping on it). I go to a rolfer once in awhile and she is able to open up the pinched nerves and gives me a lot of relief.

Yes.... All most Dr's do (even highly regarded specialists) is cut or prescribe meds. Lots of other less invasive options to explore first. But most Dr's wont tell you that you have other options. Have to look for this yourself.

I have seen it many times and experienced it myself. Was told by a top orthopedic that I was a great candidate for double shoulder reconstruction. Before I started training again 6 years ago, I could not even life my 15lb infant son into a car carrier. (I just could not lift my arms out straight).

When I started training in the gym, I went to see a good sports chiro and he helped me rehab my shoulders and broke up some scar tissue. I am now benching over 400lbs, and OHP over 225. NO SURGERY.

Yes my shoulders still have 'issues', but I would say I have regained pretty good usage for not getting cut open.

bodyhard
06-17-2014, 07:42 PM
Hope you guys are right, I will look into all areas, the last thing I want is surgery.

Fishman15
06-17-2014, 07:50 PM
As a lot of you know during my accident my left clavicle was f'ck ed up. I have been holding off getting surgery. The more I have been training the worst it is getting. Anyway now it appears it must be pinching some nerve as I am losing strength/feel from my shoulder all the way down to my hand. I noticed it even more last night while benching. No matter how hard I grasped the bar I had no strength in my grip whatsoever. And my number dropped down to 225LBS. I am going to need surgery sooner than I thought. 😵

Welcome to the club BH. I just moved my shoulder surgery in November up to July 3rd. My ability in the gym has become ridiculous on just about everything but pulling. No pushing, no pressing, no direct shoulder work, and even squats are difficult because of my shoulder. In fact, I now have to come home and ice my shoulder after a long run. Pathetic...

bodyhard
06-17-2014, 07:53 PM
Welcome to the club BH. I just moved my shoulder surgery in November up to July 3rd. My ability in the gym has become ridiculous on just about everything but pulling. No pushing, no pressing, no direct shoulder work, and even squats are difficult because of my shoulder. In fact, I now have to come home and ice my shoulder after a long run. Pathetic...

What kind of surgery are you getting?

Fishman15
06-17-2014, 08:40 PM
What kind of surgery are you getting?

For sure, collar bone shaved, bone spurs removed and the biggie is called a bicep tenodesis. He will be cutting a partially torn bicep tendon out of the shoulder joint and fusing it to my upper arm bone. I will lose a little strength not having it connected in the shoulder but better than not having your bicep muscle connected at all just hanging there with no shape. These are the things we know are problems from my mri about a year and a half ago. I wouldn't be surprised if he finds a rotator cuff tear as well. There is not much room in my shoulder joint and all the inflammation from all this stuff going on has just created a bigger problem by waiting too long to take care of it.

I won't be able to lift a pound for 6 weeks, and will probably take 6 months to a year to recover fully or almost fully I should say. I am to the point where I am actually looking forward to it now. Kind of excited to think about 6 months down the road on what I might be able to do in the gym without pain. We will see though...

Mindi912
06-18-2014, 04:17 AM
As a lot of you know during my accident my left clavicle was f'ck ed up. I have been holding off getting surgery. The more I have been training the worst it is getting. Anyway now it appears it must be pinching some nerve as I am losing strength/feel from my shoulder all the way down to my hand. I noticed it even more last night while benching. No matter how hard I grasped the bar I had no strength in my grip whatsoever. And my number dropped down to 225LBS. I am going to need surgery sooner than I thought. 

Sounds like your ulnar nerve is taking a beating and the nerve damage could be permanent. Why did you put off surgery. Did they not explain to you the possible implications of leaving it for so long.

ajdahlheimer
06-18-2014, 04:42 AM
I was benching over 375lbs...

Vid?

ajdahlheimer
06-18-2014, 04:43 AM
...and OHP over 225.

Vid?

GoatNapper
06-18-2014, 04:52 AM
sorry to hear this bro, but luckily it can be taken care of with orthoscopic surgery which is just three small holes and shouldnt cause much issues or discomfort. just take it easy and dont overdue it, you can do a lot more damage with one training session. do the doctors know what it is yet? it may be that your clavicle is pressing on a nerve, or it is fracture/misplaced. just take it easy and enjoy your time off. youll bounce back once your healed and may even make some good gainz! good luck!!

Bando
06-18-2014, 06:55 AM
Damn! Sorry to read this!

Nikonguy
06-18-2014, 07:07 AM
Sorry to hear this BH.

GreenWave1
06-18-2014, 07:10 AM
Good luck man. BTW, I notice that when you report an injury, it's a 5* thread. Ima 1* it to do my part.

bodyhard
06-18-2014, 07:38 AM
Vid?
Na I was going live at the meet in August.


Good luck man. BTW, I notice that when you report an injury, it's a 5* thread. Ima 1* it to do my part.
That's my haters for you man lol

Karl_Hungus
06-18-2014, 07:42 AM
I was benching over 375lbs

That is impressive as hell at your bodyweight! I hope you can get your nerve issue solved and get your strength back.

bodyhard
06-18-2014, 07:50 AM
That is impressive as hell at your bodyweight! I hope you can get your nerve issue solved and get your strength back.

My strength is there but the arm is dead hard to explain n it's like no matter how hard I grab the bar I don't feel it.

ChazWood
06-18-2014, 08:50 AM
My strength is there but the arm is dead hard to explain n it's like no matter how hard I grab the bar I don't feel it.
That sucks BH; I hope you get it sorted soon.

Although on the plus side, jerking it with your left hand will be like getting a hand-job by someone else.

Always gotta consider the positives. :)

ajdahlheimer
06-18-2014, 08:51 AM
that sucks bh; i hope you get it sorted soon.

Although on the plus side, jerking it with your left hand will be like getting a hand-job by someone else.

Always gotta consider the positives. :)

lmao

Karl_Hungus
06-18-2014, 10:48 AM
My strength is there but the arm is dead hard to explain n it's like no matter how hard I grab the bar I don't feel it.

Be sure to get checked out when you can ... if there is damage to nerves innervating muscle tissue can cause severe muscle atrophy. Hopefully it is just sensory nerves and it will clear itself up with treatment.