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cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 02:28 PM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"

DuracellBunny
04-24-2014, 02:38 PM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"

I think that's on the wall of every US courtroom as well isn't it?

GuyJin
04-24-2014, 02:39 PM
I think that's because they feel that they already 'have' God in them.

They just don't have the greenbacks in their wallets.

Or something like that.

Brackneyc
04-24-2014, 02:42 PM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"

Cause they need something to cry about.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 02:49 PM
Cause they need something to cry about.
Thats probably gonna be the best answer.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 02:52 PM
You sue a place that says "God" to get a bunch of paper that says "God"

Uhmmm........yeah.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 02:55 PM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"



Does anyone carry money anymore?

JK--sorta :)

You should see the looks I get at the checkout when I count out change from my coin purse.



Dang. I just realized I have become my grandma.

so-tex
04-24-2014, 03:03 PM
I think that's on the wall of every US courtroom as well isn't it?cowbybiker should know. He's been in a lot of courthouses in his lifetime :D

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:06 PM
cowbybiker should know. He's been in a lot of courthouses in his lifetime :D

I think thats on the front entrance, so I wouldn't know.

In B4 back door man.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:08 PM
Does anyone carry money anymore?

JK--sorta :)

You should see the looks I get at the checkout when I count out change from my coin purse.
Dang. I just realized I have become my grandma.Grandma's are good.

They bake cookies :)

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 03:19 PM
Grandma's are good.

They bake cookies :)

Once I start carrying Kleenex up my sleeve, the transformation will be complete! :)


Unfortunately, I cannot bake :(

I can cook well, but I don't think grilled steak mails well.

keyboardworkout
04-24-2014, 03:27 PM
It originally said "In Gold We Trust" but since we removed ourselves from the gold standard they changed it to "In God We Trust".

Something has to stand behind our money, might as well make it God.

so-tex
04-24-2014, 03:34 PM
Once I start carrying Kleenex up my sleeve, the transformation will be complete! :)


Unfortunately, I cannot bake :(

I can cook well, but I don't think grilled steak mails well.I'll take mine medium rare please :p

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 03:39 PM
I'll take mine medium rare please :p

Would you like mashed potatoes with that?

:D

(Secret family recipe)

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:40 PM
Would you like mashed potatoes with that?

:D

(Secret family recipe)
You have to ask?

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 03:42 PM
You have to ask?

Good point.

Sauteed mushrooms though...not sure...they aren't for everybody.


Edit: Now I really want a steak.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:44 PM
Good point.

Sauteed mushrooms though...not sure...they aren't for everybody.

Portobello?

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 03:48 PM
Portobello?


Yes. I take the shrooms and lightly brush the dirt from their tender outsides. Then, they get lovingly sliced into bite-sized pieces. I slowly melt the fresh butter I get from a local farm and saute some fresh, chopped garlic until it sizzles. The mushrooms go in and get a light saute.

I would post a pic, but I don't want to make the angels from heaven cry! :p

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 03:49 PM
I am american and let me tell you op.......


































in obama we trust

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:50 PM
Yes. I take the shrooms and lightly brush the dirt from their tender outsides. Then, they get lovingly sliced into bite-sized pieces. I slowly melt the fresh butter I get from a local farm and saute some fresh, chopped garlic until it sizzles. The mushrooms go in and get a light saute.

I would post a pic, but I don't want to make the angels from heaven cry! :p

Food pron at its finest without pics

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:52 PM
I am american and let me tell you op.......

in obama we trust

You are not an American.

















You dont squat

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 03:54 PM
You are not an American.

You dont squat

Only when I drop my 28lbs mega cheeseburger in walmart I do.......


















hurr durr

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 03:57 PM
Only when I drop my 28lbs mega cheeseburger in walmart I do.......

hurr durr

They have those?

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 03:59 PM
They have those?

Walmart has everything. Its like a cut scene from the hills have eyes movies in there

so-tex
04-24-2014, 04:03 PM
Food pron at its finest without picsDoesn't matter. Dinner @7:00.

Is Kezzy lost :confused:

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 04:05 PM
Doesn't matter. Dinner @7:00.

Is Kezzy lost :confused:

And confused.

He thinks he's American.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 04:06 PM
Doesn't matter. Dinner @7:00.

Seriously thinking about going back to the grocery for steak, potatoes, and mushrooms...

so-tex
04-24-2014, 04:09 PM
And confused.

He thinks he's American.Damn Brits :rolleyes: Maybe Kezzy turned 35 today?

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 04:17 PM
Damn Brits :rolleyes: Maybe Kezzy turned 35 today?

Im visiting my grampa :D. Im off now anyway his pissbag just burst. Later geese

thomashenry
04-24-2014, 04:19 PM
cAN I HAZ A cHEEZBUGER WIT DAT DEM MASEHD POTOATO`S

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 04:21 PM
Damn Brits :rolleyes: Maybe Kezzy turned 35 today?

He's trolling cause we celebrate the 4th of July

Oceanside
04-24-2014, 04:22 PM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"

I'm not so sure I understand the question...

but if by some chance you're trying to say that So-tex's breath smells like rattle snake sh*t then I agree..

yes his breath does smell like rattle snake sh*t

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 04:26 PM
He's trolling cause we celebrate the 4th of July

Shots have been fired. I repeat shots have been fired!

so-tex
04-24-2014, 04:27 PM
Seriously thinking about going back to the grocery for steak, potatoes, and mushrooms...You better pick up a lb. of hamburger while you're there. Thomas wants cheeseburgers. :p

so-tex
04-24-2014, 04:30 PM
Shots have been fired. I repeat shots have been fired!Come at us brah.

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 04:32 PM
Come at us brah.

Dont want any of you to break a hip or re-anact war in here so ill just leave quielty and let you guys enjoy matlock

so-tex
04-24-2014, 04:33 PM
I'm not so sure I understand the question...

but if by some chance you're trying to say that So-tex's breath smells like rattle snake sh*t then I agree..

yes his breath does smell like rattle snake sh*tSays the guy who won't post up a pick of his butthole

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 04:35 PM
He's trolling cause we celebrate the 4th of July

Oh snap. Are they still pissed about that? :D


You better pick up a lb. of hamburger while you're there. Thomas wants cheeseburgers. :p

Actually, I make a succulent cheeseburger with lots of special spices added to the beef.

Dang. Now I want a hamburger too. You guys are really bad for my diet. LOL


Come at us brah.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fLG34tnw-QE/ShWGya6EwvI/AAAAAAAAAjY/M8WGIxx6VZM/s400/MJZ598.gif

so-tex
04-24-2014, 04:36 PM
Dont want any of you to break a hip or re-anact war in here so ill just leave quielty and let you guys enjoy matlockAs long as you don't steal our Geritol we should be good to go.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 04:37 PM
Dont want any of you to break a hip or re-anact war in here so ill just leave quielty and let you guys enjoy matlock

Dude--

From a country that produces Mr. Bean movies??


Really??

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 04:38 PM
Dude--

From a country that produces Mr. Bean movies??


Really??

Fukin lol I know. My son loves them though

edit successful thread hijack by kezzy

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 04:43 PM
Fukin lol I know. My son loves them though

edit successful thread hijack by kezzy

And also...who was that horrible actor who starred in some James Bond movies....good God what was his name?...

Kezzyukbrah
04-24-2014, 04:45 PM
And also...who was that horrible actor who starred in some James Bond movies....good God what was his name?...

Not sure there have been loads and im not a big bond fan. Liked the old ones when pierce brosnan was bond but fell off since then

Oceanside
04-24-2014, 04:53 PM
Says the guy who won't post up a pick of his butthole

don't take this the wrong way but....


you ain't worthy !

Phattso
04-24-2014, 04:53 PM
Yes. I take the shrooms and lightly brush the dirt from their tender outsides. Then, they get lovingly sliced into bite-sized pieces. I slowly melt the fresh butter I get from a local farm and saute some fresh, chopped garlic until it sizzles. The mushrooms go in and get a light saute.

That was down right sexy, Oonie-Noonie.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 04:54 PM
Not sure there have been loads and im not a big bond fan. Liked the old ones when pierce brosnan was bond but fell off since then


You're def young if Pierce is one of the "old ones."
Dang, what was that guy's name?...senility is so frustrating at times.

:D


Off to the grocery...

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 05:31 PM
That was down right sexy, Oonie-Noonie.

TY! :)

Cooking is my thang.

EjnarKolinkar
04-24-2014, 05:48 PM
Yes. I take the shrooms and lightly brush the dirt from their tender outsides. Then, they get lovingly sliced into bite-sized pieces. I slowly melt the fresh butter I get from a local farm and saute some fresh, chopped garlic until it sizzles. The mushrooms go in and get a light saute.

I would post a pic, but I don't want to make the angels from heaven cry! :p

I now really want some mushrooms. Crap, I just got back from the store. I'll get some tomorrow ;)

thomashenry
04-24-2014, 05:55 PM
Dude--

From a country that produces Mr. Bean movies??


Really?? You forgot Benny Hill, oh the humanity ------------------ “The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable; and let it come! I repeat, Sir, let it come!” — Patrick Henry

acrawlingchaos
04-24-2014, 05:56 PM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"


Cause they need something to cry about.Who exactly is "they" and "some people"?


Thats probably gonna be the best answer.Why do you feel these "people" need something to cry about?

Brackneyc
04-24-2014, 06:05 PM
Who exactly is "they" and "some people"?

Why do you feel these "people" need something to cry about?

"They" are people that cry about things that don't matter.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 06:09 PM
You forgot Benny Hill, “

:D
I remember watching that as a kid.

What about Monty Python? Loved it. The TV show and the movies.

ikssfUhAlgg

acrawlingchaos
04-24-2014, 06:29 PM
"They" are people that cry about things that don't matter.To "them", these things do matter. If it matters to them, then they are not crying.

Do you feel that the "Pledge of Allegiance", as is, should be kept institutionalized within the education system?
Do you feel that those who try to keep it in the system are crying over insignificant matters?

Brackneyc
04-24-2014, 08:29 PM
To "them", these things do matter. If it matters to them, then they are not crying.

Do you feel that the "Pledge of Allegiance", as is, should be kept institutionalized within the education system?
Do you feel that those who try to keep it in the system are crying over insignificant matters?

We say it everyday at school. I think it should stay as is.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 08:36 PM
We say it everyday at school. I think it should stay as is.

Not that I want to get involved in this argument (out of popcorn),

but I think the Pledge was amended in the mid 1930s to add "under God" and wasn't there before.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 08:39 PM
Some people are just that. Some people.

Do you feel that I should categorize?

I'll leave that to "those" that feel the need to do that.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 08:43 PM
Some people are just that. Some people.

Do you feel that I should categorize?

I'll leave that to "those" that feel the need to do that.

May I mention, as an unrelated topic, that my dog ate a full fried chicken wing yesterday, threw it up (whole thing still in one piece), and lived through the ordeal?

acrawlingchaos
04-24-2014, 08:48 PM
We say it everyday at school. I think it should stay as is.I think state conducted indoctrination of children is disturbing at best. It's message and origin is purely socialist and had it's hand in diminishing the private/parochial education system.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 08:49 PM
May I mention, as an unrelated topic, that my dog ate a full fried chicken wing yesterday, threw it up (whole thing still in one piece), and lived through the ordeal?
One of my dogs does that with rib bones.

My other one doesn't so I give her rib bones and then I feel bad cause what if she thinks I'm playing favorites.

acrawlingchaos
04-24-2014, 08:52 PM
Some people are just that. Some people.

Do you feel that I should categorize?

I'll leave that to "those" that feel the need to do that.http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1573478/lamot-tap-dancing-o.gif

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 08:58 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1573478/lamot-tap-dancing-o.gif

I dance better than that.

UnaChispita
04-24-2014, 09:01 PM
One of my dogs does that with rib bones.

My other one doesn't so I give her rib bones and then I feel bad cause what if she thinks I'm playing favorites.

OMG. I shouldn't laugh, but I laughed.


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1573478/lamot-tap-dancing-o.gif


Oh good. Is this a dancing thread now?

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv330/Emmaa_Pictures/DirtyDancing.gif

Old-Time-Lifter
04-24-2014, 09:07 PM
You're def young if Pierce is one of the "old ones."
Dang, what was that guy's name?...senility is so frustrating at times.

:D


Off to the grocery...

Sean Connery was and always will be the best Bond.

Second best is Daniel Craig.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 09:21 PM
Sean Connery was and always will be the best Bond.

Second best is Daniel Craig.

Skyfall was meh.

Old-Time-Lifter
04-24-2014, 09:27 PM
Skyfall was meh.

It was okay... would have been much better with Connery. ;)

Brackneyc
04-24-2014, 09:30 PM
I think state conducted indoctrination of children is disturbing at best. It's message and origin is purely socialist and had it's hand in diminishing the private/parochial education system.

State conducted indoctrination? I'd suggest you home school your kids. You'll sleep better at night.

cowboybiker
04-24-2014, 09:31 PM
It was okay... would have been much better with Connery. ;)

Its the only Bond movie on Netflix.

What does that tell you!?

SP1966
04-24-2014, 09:50 PM
Sean Connery was and always will be the best Bond.

Second best is Daniel Craig.

I agree! Craig brought an edge to the character after all the rest of them minus Connery played it like a cartoon.

acrawlingchaos
04-24-2014, 10:00 PM
State conducted indoctrination? I'd suggest you home school your kids. You'll sleep better at night.I find it concerning, and your sarcasm doesn't make it any less so. If it isn't such a big deal, why not just let it go? Why "cry" about it?

As far as schooling my children, I would like to. Unfortunately, the federal government has made home schooling and private schooling financially implausible for most, and choosing a private education means you end up with no return on your tax dollar. I'm not against public education, but give out education vouchers and let the citizens decide who will educate their children. Let the public school system sink or swim on it's ability to competitively educate children.





So have we figured out who these oversensitive types are that would be against god's name in secular government institutions?

Brackneyc
04-24-2014, 10:11 PM
I find it concerning, and your sarcasm doesn't make it any less so. If it isn't such a big deal, why not just let it go? Why be a big crybaby about it?

?

if they tell me to stop saying it tomorrow, I would, and would not fight it. I do not have an issue with it either way. To me, it is a non-issue. If enough people want it gone, it will be gone.

Those crying about it obviously have not made a very good argument to have it . I don't know of anyone personally who wants it gone.

I'm not crying. I am marveling at the contrived concern about it.

acrawlingchaos
04-24-2014, 10:23 PM
I am marveling at the contrived concern about it.Contrived? There was nothing contrived here, it's the topic of the thread. I'm not making threads about the matter, nor am I writing my congressman or picketing the local schools. It's of interest enough to discuss on the internet, and if someone had a petition regarding the matter I might even sign it. However, I wouldn't belittle other for getting involved with their government in an effort to makes changes they want to see.


So if I am to understand correctly, no one you know thinks the Pledge should be removed, and you think it should stay. However, anyone that disagrees is crying?

Brackneyc
04-25-2014, 05:47 AM
Contrived? There was nothing contrived here, it's the topic of the thread. I'm not making threads about the matter, nor am I writing my congressman or picketing the local schools. It's of interest enough to discuss on the internet, and if someone had a petition regarding the matter I might even sign it. However, I wouldn't belittle other for getting involved with their government in an effort to makes changes they want to see.


So if I am to understand correctly, no one you know thinks the Pledge should be removed, and you think it should stay. However, anyone that disagrees is crying?

Not suggesting that "you" contrived it. I am speaking in generalities.

I like to make/see changes based on evidence of the "need" for change. So far, those who seek to have it changed or eliminated have failed to even come close to showing the "need" for such a change, imo.

Folks that don't want to say the pledge, or parts of it, are not bound by law to do so. They can choose their level of involvement in this matter, just as they can choose to be, or not be offended/bothered by the words which make up the pledge.

Otherwise, there is a pretty specific process to get it changed. That would be the avenue I would take if it were that big of a deal.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 06:03 AM
I thought this thread was more about hipocracy.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 06:15 AM
I thought this thread was more about hipocracy.

It all comes down to perspective.

thomashenry
04-25-2014, 06:25 AM
:D
I remember watching that as a kid.

What about Monty Python? Loved it. The TV show and the movies.

ikssfUhAlgg----I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries

Oceanside
04-25-2014, 08:01 AM
I thought this thread was more about hipocracy.

I thought this thread went downhill after I implied you have pretty bad breath !

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 08:33 AM
I like to make/see changes based on evidence of the "need" for change. So far, those who seek to have it changed or eliminated have failed to even come close to showing the "need" for such a change, imo.I agree, and apparently, those who have fought against it have seen a need for change. With enough support changes can and will take place.


Folks that don't want to say the pledge, or parts of it, are not bound by law to do so. They can choose their level of involvement in this matter, just as they can choose to be, or not be offended/bothered by the words which make up the pledge.We are speaking about children, not adults. Children do not have the intellectual capacity to understand what they are reciting, subjected to peer pressure, in a position of zero authority and don't understand how to exercise their rights.


Otherwise, there is a pretty specific process to get it changed. That would be the avenue I would take if it were that big of a deal.Part of the process is speaking to the public and gathering support... or do believe this can somehow be sidestepped?










Reps to anyone that can figure what mystery group of people are being referred to in the OP!!!

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 08:35 AM
I thought this thread was more about hipocracy.Interesting perspective (and I'm not disagreeing). Would you care to elaborate?


It all comes down to perspective.Disagree. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy no matter how you spin it.

Phattso
04-25-2014, 08:40 AM
All this division, from religion, race, income and gender was instigated by the current admin and has exploded into a virtual civil war. The reason? To acquire votes.

One of the main reasons I do not support the current admin.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 08:45 AM
I thought this thread went downhill after I implied you have pretty bad breath !
Threads always seem to go downhill after you post.

You know why?



Because you're a mutt!

so-tex
04-25-2014, 08:48 AM
Interesting perspective (and I'm not disagreeing). Would you care to elaborate?

The original post?

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 08:56 AM
The original post?I don't see any hypocrisy (well, not in the original post). Parents who are concerned with what their children are exposed to, will more than likely seek to make changes proximal to the child i.e., the schools.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 09:20 AM
I don't see any hypocrisy (well, not in the original post). Parents who are concerned with what their children are exposed to, will more than likely seek to make changes proximal to the child i.e., the schools.
You can't see the hypocrisy in this?
Why is it...
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"
People complaining about God when it suits their agenda, then turning around and gladly accepting God when it comes down to money.

Old-Time-Lifter
04-25-2014, 09:36 AM
As far as I'm concerned "God is good all the time and all the time God is good". :D

Have a blessed day and be a blessing to somebody today. :D

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 09:37 AM
You can't see the hypocrisy in this?
Why is it...
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"
People complaining about God when it suits their agenda, then turning around and gladly accepting God when it comes down to money.I think it should be removed from money. Hypocrisy gone.

Regardless, there have been plenty of petitions and lawsuits to have the phrase removed from currency as well. So no, I don't see the hypocrisy.


Have a blessed day and be a blessing to somebody today. :DEnjoy your afternoon Roy.

Brackneyc
04-25-2014, 10:04 AM
I agree, and apparently, those who have fought against it have seen a need for change. With enough support changes can and will take place.

We are speaking about children, not adults. Children do not have the intellectual capacity to understand what they are reciting, subjected to peer pressure, in a position of zero authority and don't understand how to exercise their rights.

Part of the process is speaking to the public and gathering support... or do believe this can somehow be sidestepped?
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I am not suggesting they side step the process at all. Getting a few folks to talk about it is one thing. To make the actual change will require time, effort, and maybe money. Few will actually provide any one of those three, let alone all three at once.

I am a little confused about how a child reciting/hearing the pledge (or the word "god" specifically) up to 180 times a year is going to put them at risk? I guess for me, this is the key issue which would bolster the argument.

I am totally open to any argument which defines the damage which will result from hearing it, or saying it.

I would not say I am completely nationalistic (by definition), but I have no inherent fear of a child being brainwashed or otherwise injured by them hearing or saying the word god, in or outside of the pledge. A parent with these concerns just needs to be proactive in their teachings on this topic.

I have far greater fears of other things they are exposed to, and most of it approved of by the parents themselves.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 10:04 AM
I think it should be removed from money. Hypocrisy gone.

Regardless, there have been plenty of petitions and lawsuits to have the phrase removed from currency as well. So no, I don't see the hypocrisy.

So... You couldn't see a scenerio when a person complains about having God in the Pledge, then give that same person a million dollars and see that same person gladly accept it....hypocrisy...I'm not here advocating God or religion. It's none of my business how another person thinks.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 10:56 AM
So... You couldn't see a scenerio when a person complains about having God in the Pledge, then give that same person a million dollars and see that same person gladly accept it....hypocrisy...No I couldn't see that scenario happening. In the real world, people are not offered a million dollars for simply being flexible with their morals. Dealing with money isn't really a choice... it's a necessity, so is sending your child to school.

I do not think someone is being a hypocrite for having their child in a school they do not approve of, nor do I think they are hypocrites for using the currency of their homeland when given little choice. I believe the responsible thing to do is use political avenues available to make changes, not retreat from society refusing education and currency.

Your assertions of hypocrisy are unfounded, and a bit absurd (no doubt to illustrate your point).




I'm not here advocating God or religion. It's none of my business how another person thinks..... who brought religion in to thi.... hey wait a minute... you don't think the OP might have been referring to atheists do you?

tomnationwide
04-25-2014, 11:01 AM
Some people complain about "One nation under God" but they never complain about money?

"In God we trust"

Because In God We Trust was originally placed on currency. One nation, Under God was added based on incredible fears of godless Communists in the 50s.

That's why there's a problem.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 11:07 AM
No I couldn't see that scenario happening. In the real world, people are not offered a million dollars for simply being flexible with their morals. Dealing with money isn't really a choice... it's a necessity, so is sending your child to school.

I do not think someone is being a hypocrite for having their child in a school they do not approve of, nor do I think they are hypocrites for using the currency of their homeland when given little choice. I believe the responsible thing to do is use political avenues available to make changes, not retreat from society refusing education and currency.

Your assertions of hypocrisy are unfounded, and a bit absurd (no doubt to illustrate your point).



.... who brought religion in to thi.... hey wait a minute... you don't think the OP might have been referring to atheists do you?You're pretty hard headed and narrow minded aren't ya. You seem to go out of your way to complicate something that is so simple to understand.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 01:03 PM
You're pretty hard headed and narrow minded aren't ya. You seem to go out of your way to complicate something that is so simple to understand.I guess I just can't understand simple things. Appropriate crew added, I wouldn't want to misrepresent myself.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 05:27 PM
Lots of people have problems with God.

More than just the atheists and agnostics.

Which is why im not categorizing.


But nice try

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 05:43 PM
Lots of people have problems with God.

More than just the atheists and agnostics.Oh? Who? Who else other than atheists and agnostics would have an issue with God in the pledge or in currency?


Which is why im not categorizing.... k



But nice tryTry? I'm asking a straight forward question. Who exactly are you referring to?

Now see... this is why we name names. You should know better.

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 05:46 PM
Oh? Who? Who else other than atheist and agnostics would have an issue with God in the pledge or in currency?

... k


Try? I'm asking a straight forward question. Who exactly are you referring to?

Now see... this is why we name names. You should know better.

ACC-

I did not interpret the original question to be anti-atheist. Maybe anti-liberal, but not anti-atheist.

As for God--

I've had lots of problems and I believe in Him.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 05:51 PM
I did not interpret the original question to be anti-atheist. Maybe anti-liberal, but not anti-atheist.Which is why I have been addressing the op. I have my own interpretation and requested a simple straight forward answer. Which I have not received. Until then, I only have my assumptions... same as you.




As for God--

I've had lots of problems and I believe in Him.I asked who else would have issues with god in the pledge or in currency. I did not ask if those who believed in god had difficulties with their relationship with god.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 05:51 PM
Scientologists

Devil worshippers

People that believe and don't get what they want

People that worship but dont like the idea of one God

Should I continue?

so-tex
04-25-2014, 05:55 PM
Which is why I have been asking the op. I have my own interpretation and requested a simple straight forward answer, which I have not received.

Good Lord, what fuking difference does it make. We get it that you don't understand. :rolleyes:

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 06:02 PM
I asked who else would have issues with god in the pledge or in currency. I did not ask if those who believed in god had difficulties with their relationship with god.

Honestly? I don't see why this is pissing you off so much. I think about countries where the ****ing dictator graces the currency and people have no choice but use it. Culture is a weird and traditional thing. We are a Judeo-Christian nation and parts of society will reflect it. Srs.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 06:10 PM
Good Lord, what fuking difference does it make. We get it that you don't understand. :rolleyes:If it isn't such a big deal, why are you making a fuss over it? Why get excited? I've stayed on topic without ad hominem or disparaging anyone, so I'm not exactly sure what your issue is with me conveying an opposing opinion.

If you have an interest in the thread topic, I am very willing to have a congenial conversation regarding the matter. Otherwise, if your only contribution to the topic is to tell me that shouldn't express my opinion.... you have to accept my apology now if I completely disregard you.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 06:16 PM
Honestly? I don't see why this is pissing you off so much. I think about countries where the ****ing dictator graces the currency and people have no choice but use it. Culture is a weird and traditional thing. We are a Judeo-Christian nation and parts of society will reflect it. Srs.So now I'm pissed? I hadn't realized. I'm asking straight forward questions and have an interest in the topic.

I simply asked a straight forward question that you side stepped and will not answer. If you have no interest in the subject matter (reflective of your posts ITT), than why do my posts bother you? Is there something in particular I said that you found offensive?

so-tex
04-25-2014, 06:17 PM
If it isn't such a big deal, why are you making a fuss over it? Why get excited? I've stayed on topic without ad hominem or disparaging anyone, so I'm not exactly sure what your issue is with me conveying an opposing opinion.

Me? making a fuss? Lmfao :D As far as opinions, you fuking haven't given one. Gawd you're freaking hilarious. :D

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 06:27 PM
Me? making a fuss? LmfaoYou've addressed me several times now over simply conveying my opinion. That would seem to me you're making a fuss.


:D As far as opinions, you fuking haven't given one. Gawd you're freaking hilarious. :D

My opinion regarding The Pledge.

I think state conducted indoctrination of children is disturbing at best. It's message and origin is purely socialist and had it's hand in diminishing the private/parochial education system.


I find it concerning,....


We are speaking about children, not adults. Children do not have the intellectual capacity to understand what they are reciting, subjected to peer pressure, in a position of zero authority and don't understand how to exercise their rights.


As far as schooling my children, I would like to. Unfortunately, the federal government has made home schooling and private schooling financially implausible for most, and choosing a private education means you end up with no return on your tax dollar. I'm not against public education, but give out education vouchers and let the citizens decide who will educate their children. Let the public school system sink or swim on it's ability to competitively educate children.


My opinion regarding the currency.

I think it should be removed from money.




I can paraphrase by saying that I think the Pledge of Allegiance should be removed from public schools, and the word "god" should be removed from currency. If there is anything I can do to clarify my stance, just let me know.

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 06:29 PM
So now I'm pissed? I hadn't realized. I'm asking straight forward questions and have an interest in the topic.

Well, frankly, you seem pissed.

I also have an interest in the topic and, for the record, YES, I believe children should say the pledge. It is one way for a country to inspire nationalism in its people.


I simply asked a straight forward question that you side stepped and will not answer. If you have no interest in the subject matter (reflective of your posts ITT), than why do my posts bother you? Is there something in particular I said that you found offensive?

Nothing you've said is offensive. I'm not upset. If I travel to a foreign country, I'm try to adapt to its cultural values. My point was that the US has a background of Christianity and parts of culture will reflect that. Why are you getting upset at this minutiae? There are plenty of things wrong in this country that deserve more attention.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 06:30 PM
You've addressed me several times now over simply conveying my opinion. That would seem to me you're making a fuss.



My opinion regarding The Pledge.









My opinion regarding the currency.





If my opinion on the matter was unclear, I can paraphrase by saying that I think the Pledge of Allegiance should be removed from public schools, and the word "god" should be removed from currency.I was referring to the OP and God, not the pissing match you instigated with Brack. As far as I'm concerned, I could give two sh!ts what anybody thinks.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 06:46 PM
Well, frankly, you seem pissed.I'm not, but thank you for your concern.


It is one way for a country to inspire nationalism in its people.Agreed, and it is a cornerstone of socialism, and I am not a nationalist, I am a Patriot.


Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved. By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.

~George Orwell~


Nothing you've said is offensive. I'm not upset. If I travel to a foreign country, I'm try to adapt to its cultural values. My point was that the US has a background of Christianity and parts of culture will reflect that.I understand that, and I understand that I am a cultural Christian. It doesn't mean change can't or won't happen.


Why are you getting upset at this minutiae?I didn't realize I was, but again, thank you.


There are plenty of things wrong in this country that deserve more attention.Then why are you trying to convince me I am wasting my time? Why is my expressing myself a waste, yet your trying to convince me I am wrong on the matter is not a waste?

What sort of issues deserve more attention? Posting off topic ramblings are some of higher value? I don't have to go out of my way to engage in a discussion on the matter.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 06:58 PM
Can't we all just hug it out and sing a round of kumbaya?

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 06:58 PM
I'm not, but thank you for your concern.

Always looking out for you :D


Agreed, and it is a cornerstone of socialism, and I am not a nationalist, I am a Patriot


So was this man:
"The Bible is worth all the other books which have ever been printed."
-Patrick Henry

"This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed."
-Patrick Henry

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."
-Patrick Henry



I understand that, and I understand that I am a cultural Christian.

I didn't realize I was, but again, thank you.

Hard to decifer on the interwebz


Then why are you "wasting your time" trying to convince me I am wasting my time?

I don't believe I'm wasting my time.


What sort of issues deserve more attention? Posting off topic ramblings are some of higher value? I don't have to go out of my way to engage in a discussion on the matter.

No. Posting off-topic "ramblings" to mitigate the situation is important, however.

Other topics of importance:

-National debt
-Power of PACs in Congress
-Growing disparity between rich and poor
-Rising costs of a college education
-Health care
-Underfunded police force
-Aftercare of American war vets


I could go on.

Should I?

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 07:03 PM
I was referring to the OP and God, not the pissing match you instigated with Brack.I've asked several very simple questions that haven't been answered. I do perceive this an atheist bashing thread from people I have known for some time. I specifically asked them to clarify who they were talking about if it wasn't liberal atheists. Neither CBB nor Brach have given me any indication that they were talking anyone other than atheists.

Simply naming names would have avoided the pissing match. That IS the 035 tradition, and it certainly prevents a lot of confusion.


As far as I'm concerned, I could give two sh!ts what anybody thinks.Ok.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 07:10 PM
I've asked several very simple questions that haven't been answered. I do perceive this an atheist bashing thread from people I have known for some time. I specifically asked them to clarify who they were talking about if it wasn't liberal atheists. Neither CBB nor Brach have given me any indication that they were talking anyone other than atheists.

Simply naming names would have avoided the pissing match. That IS the 035 tradition, and it certainly prevents a lot of confusion.

Ok.
Did you not see my post above? #96

Or do you have me on ignore?


Sorry, I didn't respond earlier, busy with work, gym, food and sex and so on.

Of those priorities, this thread wasn't that important.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 07:13 PM
I do perceive this an atheist bashing thread I never did, but O.K. then. Carry on.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 07:20 PM
So was this man:
"The Bible is worth all the other books which have ever been printed."
-Patrick Henry

"This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed."
-Patrick Henry

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."
-Patrick HenryMy response was to differentiate between patriotism and nationalism. You can be both, but they are not the same thing. I'm not sure why you felt the need to remind me that a founding father was a patriot.


Hard to decifer on the interwebzPeople typically attribute emotions onto another speaker in an effort to discredit them. I am accustomed to it.


I don't believe I'm wasting my time.And you believe I am?


No. Posting off-topic "ramblings" to mitigate the situation is important, however.Being straight forward and avoiding ambiguous wording will go much further in mitigating any situation.


Other topics of importance:

-National debt
-Power of PACs in Congress
-Growing disparity between rich and poor
-Rising costs of a college education
-Health care
-Underfunded police force
-Aftercare of American war vetsI've been involved extensively in political threads regarding a myriad of other topics including these. I still have time to discuss less trivial matters, just as everyone else on this board does.



I could go on.

Should I?Please do. I would be more than willing to become involved in any political thread you start.

deadwoodgregg
04-25-2014, 07:23 PM
Sorry, I didn't respond earlier, busy with work, gym, food and sex and so on.Were those in any particular order of importance?

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 07:30 PM
Were those in any particular order of importance?

There all top priority, but I ate more food today than I had sex.

I have some catching up to do tonight.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 07:32 PM
Did you not see my post above? #96

Or do you have me on ignore?Just noticed. So you are casually lumping atheists with entitled people, false believers, devil worshipers and Scientologists?


Sorry, I didn't respond earlier, busy with work, gym, food and sex and so on.

Of those priorities, this thread wasn't that important.I wasn't expecting to be made a priority, and have been engaged in other activities as well. My apologies if you felt I rushed you.


I never did, but O.K. then. Carry on.Those who are privileged probably wouldn't recognize it.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 07:34 PM
I never did, but O.K. then. Carry on.

I wasn't bashing atheists but I do know some good jokes

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 07:34 PM
My response was to differentiate between patriotism and nationalism. You can be both, but they are not the same thing. I'm not sure why you felt the need to remind me that a founding father was a patriot.

Both are essential to the strength of a nation.


People typically attribute emotions onto another speaker in an effort to discredit them. I am accustomed to it.

I wasn't trying to discredit you.


And you believe I am?

No. I never said that.


Being straight forward and avoiding ambiguous wording will go much further in mitigating any situation.

Disagree. Sometimes, laughter is the best medicine.


I've been involved extensively in political threads regarding a myriad of other topics including these. I still have time to discuss less trivial matters, just as everyone else on this board does.


Please do. I would be more than willing to become involved in any political thread you start.

I've been involved in the political world and am taking a break--so, no threads.

You are free to start one though. I would be happy to give my opinion.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 07:37 PM
I wasn't bashing atheists but I do know some good jokesI never thought you were, but what do I know. I'm just a privileged white male. ;)

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 07:38 PM
Just noticed. So you are casually lumping atheists with entitled people, false believers, devil worshipers and Scientologists?


No.
I really dont want to label it.
Which is why I said some people.

Good thing I didn't say "You people"

I would have been meme'd to oblivion.

thomashenry
04-25-2014, 07:40 PM
Just noticed. So you are casually lumping atheists with entitled people, false believers, devil worshipers and Scientologists?

I wasn't expecting to be made a priority, and have been engaged in other activities as well. My apologies if you felt I rushed you.

Those who are privileged probably wouldn't recognize it. Hello my Brother, what was the question and if I may ask what is the problem with God ?, just asking not bashing accusing or disparaging , being sincere

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 07:42 PM
. I'm not sure why you felt the need to remind me that a founding father was a patriot.
.

Posted it to show you the founding father was a patriot and a Christian.

Hence, my point.--

That we are influenced by Christianity as a culture.

It might be weird and exclusive, but it is what it is and there are more important issues to contend with :)

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 07:53 PM
Hello my Brother, what was the question and if I may ask what is the problem with God ?, just asking not bashing accusing or disparaging , being sincereHello Thomas... I would really just like to be able to convey my opinion without being accused of being narrow minded, uneducated, petty, insecure or a myriad of other descriptors.

A little intellectual honesty would be nice. ITT as well.


No
I really dont want to label it.
Which is why I said some people.Using "some people' does nothing to hide the obvious insinuation.


Good thing I didn't say "You people"

I would have been meme'd to oblivion.I would have been more likely to start and end the conversation had you done that.


I never thought you were, but what do I know. I'm just a privileged white male. ;)


Posted it to show you the founding father was a patriot and a Christian.

Hence, my point.I never once insinuated that Christians couldn't be patriots, so you will have to pardon my confusion.


That we are influenced by Christianity as a culture.

It might be weird and exclusive, but it is what it is and there are more important issues to contend with.Again... quite capable about entertaining multiple ideas. While I do appreciate your direction, I feel confident I am more than able of determining for myself what issues I want to contend with.

UnaChispita
04-25-2014, 07:58 PM
A little intellectual honesty would be nice. ITT as well.

Wow. Really? C'mon now.






I never once insinuated that Christians couldn't be patriots, so you will have to pardon my confusion.

No, but you objected to the infiltration of Christianity in currency and my point was that it is embedded in history and culture. That is all.


Again... quite capable about entertaining multiple ideas. While I do appreciate your direction, I feel confident I am more than able of determining for myself what issues I want to contend with.

I never insinuated you couldn't. :confused:

thomashenry
04-25-2014, 08:06 PM
Hello Thomas... I would really just like to be able to convey my opinion without being accused of being narrow minded, uneducated, petty, insecure or a myriad of other descriptors.

A little intellectual honesty would be nice. ITT as well.

Using "some people' does nothing to hide the obvious insinuation.

I would have been more likely to start and end the conversation had you done that.



I never once insinuated that Christians couldn't be patriots, so you will have to pardon my confusion.

Again... quite capable about entertaining multiple ideas. While I do appreciate your direction, I feel confident I am more than able of determining for myself what issues I want to contend with. Well 1st off my Friends call me Tom, which I consider you among them, and 2nd, you & I have gone round & round at times, before we talked TO each other, Listened to each other, & even though at times was quite heated perhaps, we have an understanding, even a mutual respect, even though we disagree on some things, no big deal I`ll still pray for you and try and bring you into the fold :]

Old-Time-Lifter
04-25-2014, 09:02 PM
I still say God is good all the time.

You all have a blessed evening and a good weekend. :)

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 09:21 PM
Wow. Really? C'mon now.Really really. If I say it twice I must really mean it.

OP admits he and brach where talking about "atheists and agnostics" among others, such as; those who are entitled, false believers, devil worshipers and Scientologist. You know... lumped into a group Christians historically consider degenerates.

Of course Brach and CBB jib that "these people" are nothing but crybabies, and that the matter in question is unimportant. Of course it's so unimportant that everyone feels the need to tell me that it's trivial and that I'm wasting time over nothing. Yet don't realize their own extensive involvement in the conversation.

Then So tex accuses me of being narrow minded, as if the connection I made with the OP was so completely implausible to be absurd. Then accuses of not posting my own opinion, even though I was quite clear. You accuse me of being angry and pissed (unprovoked) and quite honestly, I have been nothing but polite ITT. I've spent most of my time simply defending voicing my opinion.

So yes... a little intellectual honesty would be much appreciated.


No, but you objected to the infiltration of Christianity in currency and my point was that it is embedded in history and culture. That is all.I understand we have a culturally christian heritage. Keep in mind many of our founding fathers held a strong belief that the government should remain secular, free of religious intrusion.


I never insinuated you couldn't. :confused:You've stated several times that I could be spending time on more important matters. Why have you not told everyone else that their comments are a waste of time?


Well 1st off my Friends call me Tom, which I consider you among them, and 2nd, you & I have gone round & round at times, before we talked TO each other, Listened to each other, & even though at times was quite heated perhaps, we have an understanding, even a mutual respect, even though we disagree on some things, no big deal I`ll still pray for you and try and bring you into the fold :]I never have an issue with you, because you've never been disrespectful. You have always voiced your opinion with class, and have always had the courage to stand for what you say. I honestly appreciate your straight forward approach.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 09:34 PM
Are you saying I offended you?

Because I asked a question?

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 09:45 PM
Are you saying I offended you?

Because I asked a question?No.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 09:48 PM
No.

I dont remember calling anyone a crybaby.


Better start taking my ginko biloba

so-tex
04-25-2014, 09:55 PM
The whole argument should have ended here IMO.


Who exactly is "they" and "some people"?

Why do you feel these "people" need something to cry about?
"They" are people that cry about things that don't matter.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 10:02 PM
Maybe I should have used specific names like Bob or Henry.

Maybe Gertrude.

so-tex
04-25-2014, 10:04 PM
Maybe I should have used specific names like Bob or Henry.

Maybe Gertrude.Gertrude is good. Yeah, I like Gertrude.

acrawlingchaos
04-25-2014, 10:06 PM
Cause they need something to cry about.


Thats probably gonna be the best answer.


I dont remember calling anyone a crybaby.


Better start taking my ginko bilobaPardon my poetic license, you agreed with Bracks sentiment (quoted above for you).


The whole argument should have ended here IMO.

Who exactly is "they" and "some people"?

Why do you feel these "people" need something to cry about?
"They" are people that cry about things that don't matter.I didn't, but thank you for letting me know where I should have ended my conversation. It's a cop out.

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 10:14 PM
Gertrude is good. Yeah, I like Gertrude.

So Gertrude was complaining about the pledge of allegiance as she was asking me to spare some of the almighty dollar.

I think she was a certain label but I dont keep track on what identifies certain people to fit in categories cause i. think labeling people is lame.

I'm sure there's a category for me to fit in with that statement, but I honestly dont care.

True story

so-tex
04-25-2014, 10:15 PM
I didn't, but thank you for letting me know where I should have ended my conversation. It's a cop out.acc, it was my opinion. You can do what you want. Look, I think you are a decent person. I think sometimes you go looking for something that simply isn't there. Just and observation on my part.

Edit: I apologize for calling you hard headed and narrow minded. You certainly aren't narrow minded. Hard headed.... ;)

cowboybiker
04-25-2014, 10:17 PM
Pardon my poetic license, you agreed with Bracks sentiment (quoted above for you).
.
And I've agreed with you at time.


I guess I'm affable.

UnaChispita
04-26-2014, 06:22 AM
Again... quite capable about entertaining multiple ideas. While I do appreciate your direction, I feel confident I am more than able of determining for myself what issues I want to contend with.

*Sigh*

Well, you are right about that; if you want to get your undies in a bunch over this topic, I shouldn't tell you how to feel.




OP admits he and brach where talking about "atheists and agnostics" among others, such as; those who are entitled, false believers, devil worshipers and Scientologist. You know... lumped into a group Christians historically consider degenerates.

Like I mentioned before, I think you read too much into the OP.


You accuse me of being angry and pissed (unprovoked) and quite honestly, I have been nothing but polite ITT. I've spent most of my time simply defending voicing my opinion.

So yes... a little intellectual honesty would be much appreciated.

So you're not pissed? Cuz you seem kind of pissed.


I understand we have a culturally christian heritage. Keep in mind many of our founding fathers held a strong belief that the government should remain secular, free of religious intrusion.

No disagreement there. --but many ppl also fled due to religious persecution, so like I said, it will be present in culture.


You've stated several times that I could be spending time on more important matters. Why have you not told everyone else that their comments are a waste of time?


When in the world did I ever say you're comments were a waste of time??? Still :confused:

acrawlingchaos
04-26-2014, 07:14 AM
acc, it was my opinion. You can do what you want. Look, I think you are a decent person. I think sometimes you go looking for something that simply isn't there. Just and observation on my part.Me? You could have left this thread at anytime, just as everyone else that has responded to me could have.


Edit: I apologize for calling you hard headed and narrow minded. You certainly aren't narrow minded. Hard headed.... ;)Quite accustomed to it, but thank you.






And I've agreed with you at time.
I guess I'm affable.I've agreed with everyone in this thread on multiple occasions. Only when I disagree, do others become concerned with how I post and insults and sarcasm abound.






Well, you are right about that; if you want to get your undies in a bunch over this topic, I shouldn't tell you how to feel.Claims of over sensitivity again? You have already told me that in this very thread.


Like I mentioned before, I think you read too much into the OP.This has already been mentioned to me in this thread several times, and I disagree.


So you're not pissed? Cuz you seem kind of pissed.Is it easier to dismiss me if I was?


No disagreement there. --but many ppl also fled due to religious persecution, so like I said, it will be present in culture.OK


When in the world did I ever say you're comments were a waste of time??? Still :confused:You don't remember telling me that there are other topics worthy of time, or mentioning just now about my "undies getting in a bunch" over such an insignificant topic? Or that there are more important things to contend with? Sounds like you are telling me I am wasting my time. If not, perhaps you can enlighten me as to what you actually meant.

Una, I would have figured as a woman, you would understand how insulting it is to belittle someones opinion with claims of over sensitivity. You should know better. Remember Una... even you admitted I've said nothing offensive. Yet you and others chose to continue to insult me. I would kindly appreciate it, if you would stop making baseless accusations about my frame of mind.

ArchAngel'73
04-26-2014, 08:05 AM
With threads like this
Putin will surely win.

cowboybiker
04-26-2014, 08:17 AM
With threads like this
Putin will surely win.

I was kicked out of the debate club cause my response was "Oh yeah, well fuk you"

so-tex
04-26-2014, 08:21 AM
With threads like this
Putin will surely win.Touché :D. This thread was actually pretty up until the 50th. post.

Brackneyc
04-26-2014, 09:46 AM
OP admits he and brach where talking about "atheists and agnostics"

BS. I never said that. Don't pretend to know me on matters of religion. You don't. You are one of those who cries a lot though. Hope that clears things up for you.

UnaChispita
04-26-2014, 02:15 PM
Claims of over sensitivity again? You have already told me that in this very thread.

ACC-
I think you know me well enough to know that I say many things "tongue in cheek" to lighten the mood. If you are mad bc I said that I apologize.

However, doesn't that mean your undies are in a bunch?? :D


hehe




Is it easier to dismiss me if I was?

If I wanted to dismiss you, I would just ignore you. I simply disagree with you.




You don't remember telling me that there are other topics worthy of time, or mentioning just now about my "undies getting in a bunch" over such an insignificant topic? Or that there are more important things to contend with? Sounds like you are telling me I am wasting my time. If not, perhaps you can enlighten me as to what you actually meant.

I believe I said it didn't seem worth getting upset about. Then I apologized for telling you how to feel. That is all I can say in this matter.

I have no sense about your religious background or if you're religious at all, but clearly the topic is a big deal to you.


Una, I would have figured as a woman, you would understand how insulting it is to belittle someones opinion with claims of over sensitivity. You should know better. Remember Una... even you admitted I've said nothing offensive. Yet you and others chose to continue to insult me. I would kindly appreciate it, if you would stop making baseless accusations about my frame of mind.

I think you are exaggerating my position, which I am also used to dealing with as a woman.

Not sure where I insulted you unless bc I asked if you were upset that is an insult???

acrawlingchaos
04-27-2014, 04:20 PM
BS. I never said that.I politely disagree. "They" have been defined as atheists, agnostics, devil worshippers, false believers and Scientologists by cbb. "They" were described as those who cry about things that do not matter by you. You and cbb were clearly in agreement about who "they" were.

Don't pretend to know me on matters of religion. You don't.You are right. I don't know. I've told you before I have felt that you are very ambiguous and evasive when communicating. If you chose to be evasive, than you leave me little choice than to develop an opinion based on the information you gave (as paraphrased above).

You are one of those who cries a lot though.I'm sorry you feel that way.

Hope that clears things up for you.Like most of your other responses to my questions, it does not.






I think you know me well enough to know that I say many things "tongue in cheek" to lighten the mood. If you are mad bc I said that I apologize.I was again accused of crying again, by Brach, and insulted earlier by So Tex. I'm supposed to know that your comments are just jokes? Does that mean they were really just joking? Who am I suppose to take at face value?

However, doesn't that mean your undies are in a bunch?? :DNo.

If I wanted to dismiss you, I would just ignore you. I simply disagree with you.Or insult.

I believe I said it didn't seem worth getting upset about. Then I apologized for telling you how to feel. That is all I said.I'm quite certain I said I wasn't upset... several times.

I have no sense about your religious background or if you're religious at all, but clearly the topic is a big deal to you.Enough to feel I should be able to discuss it without having to defend my reason for my interest.

I think you are exaggerating my position, which I am also used to dealing with as a woman.No, I am only expecting the same respect that you request as a feminist.

Not sure where I insulted you unless bc I asked if you were upset that is an insult???Which means not attempting to reduce my opinion to oversensitive ramblings.

UnaChispita
04-27-2014, 04:52 PM
I was again accused of crying again, by Brach, and insulted earlier by So Tex. I'm supposed to know that your comments are just jokes? Does that mean they were really just joking? Who am I suppose to take at face value?
No.
Or insult.
I'm quite certain I said I wasn't upset... several times.
Enough to feel I should be able to discuss it without having to defend my reason for my interest.
No, I am only expecting the same respect that you request as a feminist.
Which means not attempting to reduce my opinion to oversensitive ramblings.

*rubbing temples*

Jeff,
My intent was not to insult you or get in an argument.
I do respect you and don't believe I've been out of line.

Another attempt to lighten the mood (this is a joke)

JjLmY0SxoWM

so-tex
04-27-2014, 05:19 PM
acrawlingchaos=jimmieseaslyrustled.com :rolleyes:

acrawlingchaos
04-27-2014, 05:50 PM
acrawlingchaos=jimmieseaslyrustled.com :rolleyes:I'm not the one "rubbing my temples", using ad hominems out of anger/exasperation nor making claims of over sensitivity in an effort to discredit the speaker (as you have done once again). I have also answered every question directed towards, evaded nothing and contributed to the OP.


But of course... the matter in the OP is supposedly of little concern, yet this thread has seen more traffic in 3 days than most threads in the 035 started in the last 3 weeks. This leads me to believe that either this is an important matter, or (like a moth to a flame) the regulars can't help but dive into the drama... which is apparently more important than the OP.




That, my dear friend, is what hypocrisy is.







For those that haven't caught on, my sig is a clear indication that I know how certain members in the 035 feel about me. If you think incessantly spitting back the same tired insults are going to dissuade me from posting, I can save you time and energy by telling you it will not. If you think you are doing it to be funny and amusing... it's not, it's rote and boring.

so-tex
04-27-2014, 05:55 PM
I'm not the one "rubbing my temples", using ad hominems out of anger/exasperation or as you (once again by you) making claims of over sensitivity in an effort to discredit the speaker. I have also answered every question directed towards, evaded nothing and contributed to the OP.


But of course... the matter in the OP is supposedly of little concern, yet this thread has seen more traffic in 3 days than most threads in the 035 started in the last 3 weeks. This leads me to believe that either this is an important matter, or (like a moth to a flame) the regulars can't help but dive into the drama... which is apparently more important than the OP.




That, my dear friend, is what hypocrisy is.How about acrawlingchaosneedstogetlaid.com. Better? :)

UnaChispita
04-27-2014, 05:58 PM
I'm not the one "rubbing my temples", using ad hominems out of anger/exasperation nor making claims of over sensitivity in an effort to discredit the speaker (as you have done once again). I have also answered every question directed towards, evaded nothing and contributed to the OP.


But of course... the matter in the OP is supposedly of little concern, yet this thread has seen more traffic in 3 days than most threads in the 035 started in the last 3 weeks. This leads me to believe that either this is an important matter, or (like a moth to a flame) the regulars can't help but dive into the drama... which is apparently more important than the OP.




That, my dear friend, is what hypocrisy is.







For those that haven't caught on, my sig is a clear indication that I know how certain members in the 035 feel about me. If you think incessantly spitting back the same tired insults are going to dissuade me from posting, I can save you time and energy by telling you it will not. If you think you are doing it to be funny and amusing... it's not, it's rote and boring.


Ummmm....is this post directed at me?

You may as well name names if it is.

acrawlingchaos
04-27-2014, 06:06 PM
How about acrawlingchaosneedstogetlaid.com. Better? :)Val is a very accommodating and very beautiful woman.

What an incredible zinger. (right click save)...


Ummmm....is this post directed at me?

You may as well name names if it is.No. I quoted So-tex because I was responding to him. I was referring to you when I mentioned "rubbing temples" (which you did).

I have absolutely no issue being direct about my opinion.

UnaChispita
04-27-2014, 06:18 PM
No. I quoted So-tex because I was responding to him. I was referring to you when I mentioned "rubbing temples" (which you did).

I have absolutely no issue being direct about my opinion.

I see. Well, the rubbing the temples comment was referring to my confusion.

I've got enough to work on in my life without arguing with you.

I'm out.

cowboybiker
04-27-2014, 07:16 PM
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EjnarKolinkar
04-27-2014, 08:19 PM
You're out of your element