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tdnick
04-20-2014, 03:50 PM
Well since my 4820k sucks according to the misc, I was thinking about upgrading to the AMD 8350 since it has 8 cores but heard the new Intels might be coming out soon. Anyone know?

Comboking
04-20-2014, 04:00 PM
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tdnick
04-20-2014, 04:11 PM
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problem?

LordBroski
04-20-2014, 04:13 PM
if the 4820k sucks i might as well jump off a bridge with my poverty 3350p

Comboking
04-20-2014, 04:16 PM
problem?

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tdnick
04-20-2014, 04:23 PM
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That bastard lol

But stop sidetracking my thread

Comboking
04-20-2014, 04:40 PM
That bastard lol

But stop sidetracking my thread
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Gxp23
04-20-2014, 04:44 PM
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Jinru
04-20-2014, 05:13 PM
Can't tell if srs. Your CPU is good for another few years. If there's any upgrading that should be done it's an SSD if you don't already have one or a GPU for gaming.

TriggerWarning
04-20-2014, 05:25 PM
if its not worth it for me with a i920 overclocked to 4ghz to upgrade i can't see it being worth it to you. I would wait until the new haswell E with DDR 4 to come out and that should be in a couple of months, you might see some improvement, I am personally waiting until skylake.

Kicsunt
04-20-2014, 06:06 PM
There's no point in upgrading to a Broadwell, especially considering you have a perfectly fine Ivy. Based on Intel's Tick/Tock model the Broadwell will just be a tick. A tock is a huge change/improvement within their micro-architecture, while a tick is a slight change, but basically the same. If you're serious about upgrading, just wait it out until Intel's 2015 Skylake release, which should be a huge improvement.

You have to remember that Haswell's/Broadwell's were built around mobility (laptops/phones/tablets) and power saving. The Haswell/Broadwell chip's aren't really focused around OCing (if that's your thing). But, with Skylake Intel specifically has OCing in mind again. If I were you, I'd wait for Skylake.

Also, as Jinru said, if you have the money, definitely upgrade your GPU before your processor or an SSD if you don't have one already. It would be a much better investment.

Nocturnal310
04-20-2014, 09:41 PM
there isnt much difference ...the difference in visible performance will be due to HDD....get some SSD and increase RAM.

otherwise, main focus is on increasing battery life

SOJA
04-20-2014, 09:47 PM
You won't see much difference if any. I'm more keen on when die processes churn out a 5 nm chip.

invrlose123
04-21-2014, 04:03 AM
Well since my 4820k sucks according to the misc, I was thinking about upgrading to the AMD 8350 since it has 8 cores but heard the new Intels might be coming out soon. Anyone know?

Not being mean but it sounds like you don't know too much about CPUs. Just because 8350 has 8 cores doesn't mean chit. The 8350 is slightly ahead of non-hyper thread intels but falls behind their i7 lineup in multi-threaded tasks. Gaming is more really based on per-core performance, and the 8350 has very weak per-core performance relative to the i5 series. To upgrade to an 8350 you would need a new mobo too.

Want to know what a good CPU is? Look up benchmarks, it is the only way. You can read all day about cache data sizes, clock speeds, cores, etc. but all that matters is throughput and benchmarks at the end of the day.

I hate comparing computers to cars but you can read all you want about an engines displacement, number of cylinders, clearances, tolerances, compression ratios, etc. but until you see how much physical throughput(power) it's producing most of those figures are irrelevant.

tdnick
04-21-2014, 05:29 AM
Not being mean but it sounds like you don't know too much about CPUs. Just because 8350 has 8 cores doesn't mean chit. The 8350 is slightly ahead of non-hyper thread intels but falls behind their i7 lineup in multi-threaded tasks. Gaming is more really based on per-core performance, and the 8350 has very weak per-core performance relative to the i5 series. To upgrade to an 8350 you would need a new mobo too.

Want to know what a good CPU is? Look up benchmarks, it is the only way. You can read all day about cache data sizes, clock speeds, cores, etc. but all that matters is throughput and benchmarks at the end of the day.

I hate comparing computers to cars but you can read all you want about an engines displacement, number of cylinders, clearances, tolerances, compression ratios, etc. but until you see how much physical throughput(power) it's producing most of those figures are irrelevant.

V8 > 4 cylinder

SynapticCleft
04-21-2014, 10:41 AM
Well since my 4820k sucks according to the misc, I was thinking about upgrading to the AMD 8350 since it has 8 cores but heard the new Intels might be coming out soon. Anyone know?Strong downgrade.

4820K > 8350

OP, what made you think the 4820K sucks? Just because it has 8 cores doesn't mean chit unless it's backed up by benchmarks. AMD and Intel cpu architecture perform differently.

LordBroski
04-21-2014, 10:45 AM
V8 > 4 cylinder

But the 4820k is like a tuned, twin turbo 4 banger that smokes everything else.

InstantLoser
04-21-2014, 10:53 AM
V8 > 4 cylinder

Actually it's 8 physical cores vs 4 cores + 4 threads. The Intel chip has much more advanced architecture, and unless you're running programs/apps which utilize multiple threads, the AMD chip would get destroyed by the 4820k. Plus, with your socket 2011 chip you get Quad Channel memory support which would go down to dual channel with AMD. The new Broadwell chips won't support Quad Channel either. You'd need to wait for Haswell-E (new socket 2011, different board required than old socket 2011) to retain your quad channel support. I believe there will be OctoCore Haswell-E chips.

MiscMathematician
04-21-2014, 11:11 AM
Actually it's 8 physical cores vs 4 cores + 4 threads. The Intel chip has much more advanced architecture, and unless you're running programs/apps which utilize multiple threads, the AMD chip would get destroyed by the 4820k. Plus, with your socket 2011 chip you get Quad Channel memory support which would go down to dual channel with AMD. The new Broadwell chips won't support Quad Channel either. You'd need to wait for Haswell-E (new socket 2011, different board required than old socket 2011) to retain your quad channel support. I believe there will be OctoCore Haswell-E chips.

Except AMD has 4 * (2 neutered cores), not the same as 8 independent computing cores. Better for some multithreaded apps than hyperthreading but it would be a significantly better CPU if it had 8 standalones

Gunite
04-21-2014, 11:14 AM
Haven't upgraded CPU in almost 7 years, still running graphics at max on most new games.

MiscMathematician
04-21-2014, 11:17 AM
Haven't upgraded CPU in almost 7 years, still running graphics at max on most new games.

mirin your 640x480 monitor resolution bro

InstantLoser
04-21-2014, 11:21 AM
Except AMD has 4 * (2 neutered cores), not the same as 8 independent computing cores. Better for some multithreaded apps than hyperthreading but it would be a significantly better CPU if it had 8 standalones

Again however, only in situations where multi-threading is really taken advantage of.

BallerOfPeace
04-21-2014, 11:35 AM
There's no point in upgrading to a Broadwell, especially considering you have a perfectly fine Ivy. Based on Intel's Tick/Tock model the Broadwell will just be a tick. A tock is a huge change/improvement within their micro-architecture, while a tick is a slight change, but basically the same. If you're serious about upgrading, just wait it out until Intel's 2015 Skylake release, which should be a huge improvement.

You have to remember that Haswell's/Broadwell's were built around mobility (laptops/phones/tablets) and power saving. The Haswell/Broadwell chip's aren't really focused around OCing (if that's your thing). But, with Skylake Intel specifically has OCing in mind again. If I were you, I'd wait for Skylake.

Also, as Jinru said, if you have the money, definitely upgrade your GPU before your processor or an SSD if you don't have one already. It would be a much better investment.

no the tick is usually the bigger change. Ticks always have die shrinked while tock changes the microarchitecture. Haswell was tock and it sucked. Broadwell is tick and will be 14 nm.

BallerOfPeace
04-21-2014, 11:36 AM
Details of Intel's new processor line-up, codenamed 'Broadwell', have been leaked this week. Most likely to be aimed at the notebook and laptop market, smaller machines would set to gain the most from the changes in efficiency and Thermal Design Power (TDP) that the new Intel generation offers.

The 'Broadwell' generation is set for release in Q2 of 2014.

I read Q4 2014.

Purplekoolaid
04-21-2014, 11:42 AM
how does no one know hes trolling

DasPhilosopher
04-21-2014, 11:44 AM
All we can do for now is speculate. :-/

obmas
04-21-2014, 11:59 AM
i just upgraded to 8350 recently and O/C to 4.5ghz. It's been good so far. I don't game on PC though. All my multi-threaded programs have been performing pretty good

Gunite
04-21-2014, 12:05 PM
mirin your 640x480 monitor resolution bro

LOL. Nah, Samsung 27" 1920x1080 monitor, also almost 7 years old brah. Expensive as fuark when I bought it compared to now.

1quick1
04-21-2014, 12:20 PM
Details of Intel's new processor line-up, codenamed 'Broadwell', have been leaked this week. Most likely to be aimed at the notebook and laptop market, smaller machines would set to gain the most from the changes in efficiency and Thermal Design Power (TDP) that the new Intel generation offers.

The 'Broadwell' generation is set for release in Q2 of 2014.

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Comboking
04-21-2014, 12:41 PM
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1quick1
04-21-2014, 12:46 PM
This thread is now game of thrones gifs.

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Comboking
04-21-2014, 12:49 PM
This thread is now game of thrones gifs.



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RSCRevolution
04-21-2014, 12:56 PM
soon

1quick1
04-21-2014, 12:58 PM
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Comboking
04-21-2014, 01:11 PM
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not srs lel

MiscMathematician
04-21-2014, 01:22 PM
I wish they would focus more on khaleesi, their story arc seems the most interesting. She hasn't been getting much time on screen, and I mostly care about the dragons

1quick1
04-21-2014, 01:23 PM
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1quick1
04-21-2014, 01:24 PM
I wish they would focus more on khaleesi, their story arc seems the most interesting. She hasn't been getting much time on screen, and I mostly care about the dragons

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Kicsunt
04-21-2014, 01:30 PM
no the tick is usually the bigger change. Ticks always have die shrinked while tock changes the microarchitecture. Haswell was tock and it sucked. Broadwell is tick and will be 14 nm.

How is a die shrink a bigger change then an entire new micro-architecture? Anyway, if he waits for the Skylake, he'll have the new Architecture and the 14 nm.

Comboking
04-21-2014, 01:32 PM
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I wish they would focus more on khaleesi, their story arc seems the most interesting. She hasn't been getting much time on screen, and I mostly care about the dragons

they are going off the books, and besides the stuff going on with her now, with her infront of that pyramid city, she does not do anything significant in the next 2 books, so it will be a long while or atleast a couple more season till you see some action by the dragons, unsullied and herself.

MiscMathematician
04-21-2014, 01:38 PM
they are going off the books, and besides the stuff going on with her now, with her infront of that pyramid city, she does not do anything significant in the next 2 books, so it will be a long while or atleast a couple more season till you see some action by the dragons, unsullied and herself.

well then fuk the books

Comboking
04-21-2014, 01:44 PM
well then fuk the books

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Kalmah6661
04-21-2014, 01:51 PM
how does no one know hes trolling

This.

He makes a new troll thread every other day.

8/10 trolling.

Krispy1
04-21-2014, 02:47 PM
New processors leaked- minor refresh no K parts yet and only 100mhz bump in clocks.

DynasteeX
04-21-2014, 08:36 PM
Don't go with AMD CPu's bro. My friend has an 8-core (clocked @4.15GHz) vs my intel i5 @3.1GHz and whenever we have a battlefield session, I'm always loading up faster (He also a better GPU then me, my 6870 vs his 6970's crossfires) so its definitely the cpu holding it back. Also most games use 2 cores, with newer games only starting to use 4 cores now, but still not many; so 8 cores would be pointless for gaming. IMO, the intel cpu's are better, just overclock yours if you really need to.

Nocturnal310
04-22-2014, 12:37 AM
Don't go with AMD CPu's bro. My friend has an 8-core (clocked @4.15GHz) vs my intel i5 @3.1GHz and whenever we have a battlefield session, I'm always loading up faster (He also a better GPU then me, my 6870 vs his 6970's crossfires) so its definitely the cpu holding it back. Also most games use 2 cores, with newer games only starting to use 4 cores now, but still not many; so 8 cores would be pointless for gaming. IMO, the intel cpu's are better, just overclock yours if you really need to.

obviously intel is better..there's a reason u pay premium for laptops with Intel Chips.

do yourself a favor and never buy AMD processor...they truly suck and u can notice sloppy performance.


Intel i7 4750HQ Quad Core reporting in...life couldnt be better

GreenMintTea
04-22-2014, 12:40 AM
i just upgraded to 8350 recently and O/C to 4.5ghz. It's been good so far. I don't game on PC though. All my multi-threaded programs have been performing pretty good

8350 performance is still great. Can't OC mine on air because of the ambient temperatures where I live, and the fact that it runs hot already. The only reason I'd go for an 8350 over intel, is if you can find a chip significantly cheaper, like I did.

mackd
04-22-2014, 12:42 AM
V8 > 4 cylinder

LOL, confirmed troll.

In other news, would **** khaleesi/10

tdnick
04-22-2014, 05:20 AM
LOL, confirmed troll.

In other news, would **** khaleesi/10

Different strokes for different folks. Ricers are the most annoying thing ever