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Jderavian
04-09-2014, 07:33 PM
Or have had any job going house to house?

Were you made aware of the possibility of you being injured? e.g. dog bite, killed, raped

If so, did you sign or agree on anything saying you are aware of the voluntary assumption of risk and accept it?

V-240
04-09-2014, 10:16 PM
It was the 1970s, we didn't sign or agree to anything. I delivered papers, crashed my bike and got my bell rung a few times, and got bit by a dog at least once.

I was 15, so I wasn't aware of any voluntary assumption of anything.

DasPhilosopher
04-09-2014, 10:17 PM
It was the 1970s, we didn't sign or agree to anything. I delivered papers, crashed my bike and got my bell rung a few times, and got bit by a dog at least once.

I was 15, so I wasn't aware of any voluntary assumption of anything.

true alpha male

V-240
04-09-2014, 10:24 PM
true alpha male

I just rubbed dirt on it and went on.

GuyJin
04-09-2014, 10:28 PM
I just rubbed dirt on it and went on.

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Old school. Respect.
:D

Had a paper route, went door to door, shoveled snow, did deliveries, stuff like that. Never had any trouble. Wasn't worried about anyone jumping me or hurting me. Times weren't perfect forty years ago, but to me they were a little safer. Too bad that they aren't now.

V-240
04-09-2014, 10:34 PM
Sometimes I tossed the huge Sunday paper so hard it landed on the roof. I had to climb up posts and trellises in dawn's early light to retrieve it so the customer had their paper. Otherwise, I didn't get paid my 11 cents or whatever it worked out to be.

That could be a liability nightmare these days. But back then, not a single f@$# was given.

paolo59
04-09-2014, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=Jderavian;1230605933]Or have had any job going house to house?

Were you made aware of the possibility of you being injured? e.g. dog bite, killed, raped

If so, did you sign or agree on anything saying you are aware of the voluntary assumption of risk and accept it?[/QUOTE

I take it that you weren't 'killed.' That's always a good thing, regardless of the neighborhood. Some are a bit rough. :( Dogs? The littler they are, the more vicious they seem to be. You can normally kick a Chihuahua off your leg with three or four shakes. "Raped?" Well, that's another question altogether! "Injured, bit by a dog, or raped?" Well...which of the three was it? Or was it all three...back to back? :) That would be one bad neighborhood! :(

Or are you just applying for the job? :) "Man up!" You never know just what the hell you're getting into! You're Canadian, right? It's a government job? There should be some sort of 'insurance.' :)

V-240
04-09-2014, 10:42 PM
The one dog that I do remember biting me was a huge, ornery German Shepard. Right on the thigh, THROUGH MY PANTS, and it left a welt. That f#*%ing hurt like a bitch!

Still had to finish delivering my papers.

paolo59
04-09-2014, 10:54 PM
The one dog that I do remember biting me was a huge, ornery German Shepard. Right on the thigh, THROUGH MY PANTS, and it left a welt. That f#*%ing hurt like a bitch!

Still had to finish delivering my papers.

But you weren't 'killed or raped!' :)

Karl_Hungus
04-09-2014, 10:58 PM
If so, did you sign or agree on anything saying you are aware of the voluntary assumption of risk and accept it?

^^ Wow. They only do this kind of bullsh!t now days. They didn't do it 27 years ago when I was a paper boy. When I was bitten by dogs, I dealt with it on my own .... we didn't need sh!tloads of legal waivers to prevent morons from suing.

Karl_Hungus
04-09-2014, 11:00 PM
The one dog that I do remember biting me was a huge, ornery German Shepard. Right on the thigh, THROUGH MY PANTS, and it left a welt. That f#*%ing hurt like a bitch!

Still had to finish delivering my papers.

Yup, I was attacked by a Rottie (named "Bear" no less) on my route. He came after me daily until I put a stop to it one day.

paolo59
04-09-2014, 11:04 PM
^^ Wow. They only do this kind of bullsh!t now days. They didn't do it 27 years ago when I was a paper boy. When I was bitten by dogs, I dealt with it on my own .... we didn't need sh!tloads of legal waivers to prevent morons from suing.

LMAO I remember that crazy 'Pink Panther' series. Peter Sellers..."Does your dog bite? ( in that thick, ridiculous French accent). No! My dog doesn't bite! Arrrrgh!.....You said your dog doesn't bite!!!??? That's NOT my dog!" :) LOL Life is just chock full of *%$& like that Brother! :)

V-240
04-09-2014, 11:13 PM
Yup, I was attacked by a Rottie (named "Bear" no less) on my route. He came after me daily until I put a stop to it one day.

Wow, what did you do?

Yeah, we dealt with it on our own. I think I showed the welt to my mom, who said okay well, it didn't break the skin. Did it hurt? Yes? Okay, dinner's ready! :) (It was an afternoon paper route except on Sunday mornings.)

paolo59
04-09-2014, 11:16 PM
Wow, what did you do?

Yeah, we dealt with it on our own. I think I showed the welt to my mom, who said okay well, it didn't break the skin. Did it hurt? Yes? Okay, dinner's ready! :) (It was an afternoon paper route except on Sunday mornings.)

It sounds rather 'dark!' :) Could have been a piece of raw meat thrown across the lawn...or something else! :)

Karl_Hungus
04-09-2014, 11:43 PM
Yeah, we dealt with it on our own. I think I showed the welt to my mom, who said okay well, it didn't break the skin. Did it hurt? Yes? Okay, dinner's ready! :) (It was an afternoon paper route except on Sunday mornings.)

LOL....yup. Same here.


Wow, what did you do?


This dog came after me daily, and he bit me quite a few times (even drew blood!). My stepdad had the brilliant idea of mixing ammonia with water, and squirting it in the dog's eyes. Admittedly, that is not a nice thing to do to a dog, but this f'cker deserved it. Early the next morning, I filled the bottle up with my caustic mixture, intent on causing some serious damage. Unfortunately for me, it was cold as hell that day (below zero), and my ingenious dog-repellant had frozen into a solid block at the bottom of the bottle. True to form, when the dog saw me, he ran toward me while I desperately tried to get my primitive mace to work. When I realized nothing was going to happen, I friggin' lost it. Weeks of getting attacked by this dog, combined with the deep frustration of yet another failure to stop the attacks created a serious rage inside me. In the back of my mind, I knew that this was a foolish move, but I didn't care. I wanted to kick this dog's @ss and nothing was going to stop me. So I ran at him screaming at the top of my lungs, while kicking him as hard as I could and hitting him with the only weapon I had -- a rolled up newspaper...lol. I fully expected to wind up a bloody, chewed-up mess, but the weirdest thing happened. The dog turned and f'cking ran like you wouldn't believe! From then on, the dog would not get within a 100 feet of me. He'd bark from the distance, but the second I took a step toward him, he would run away. It was the damnedest thing!

V-240
04-09-2014, 11:48 PM
LOL....yup. Same here.



This dog came after me daily, and he bit me quite a few times (even drew blood!). My stepdad had the brilliant idea of mixing ammonia with water, and squirting it in the dog's eyes. Admittedly, that is not a nice thing to do to a dog, but this f'cker deserved it. Early the next morning, I filled the bottle up with my caustic mixture, intent on causing some serious damage. Unfortunately for me, it was cold as hell that day (below zero), and my ingenious dog-repellant had frozen into a solid block at the bottom of the bottle. True to form, when the dog saw me, he ran toward me while I desperately tried to get my primitive mace to work. When I realized nothing was going to happen, I friggin' lost it. Weeks of getting attacked by this dog, combined with the deep frustration of yet another failure to stop the attacks created a serious rage inside me. In the back of my mind, I knew that this was a foolish move, but I didn't care. I wanted to kick this dog's @ss and nothing was going to stop me. So I ran at him screaming at the top of my lungs, while kicking him as hard as I could and hitting him with the only weapon I had -- a rolled up newspaper...lol. I fully expected to wind up a bloody, chewed-up mess, but the weirdest thing happened. The dog turned and f'cking ran like you wouldn't believe! From then on, the dog would not get within a 100 feet of me. He'd bark from the distance, but the second I took a step toward him, he would run away. It was the damnedest thing!


BAH HAHAHH!! NICE!

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Andrew_Quick
04-10-2014, 01:39 AM
I am a mailman and we don't sign anything we just know its a risk associated with the job. We are issued pepper spray for dogs, but I have never had to use it. I carry milk bones instead. I have had owners come out and be mad at their dog for letting me pass lol.

beachguy498
04-10-2014, 04:24 AM
I had a Long Island Press route for about a year. We were never warned about anything except that if we were short at the end of the week, it came out of our pocket. My route overlapped with a guy I went to school with and he had a big dog with him, dogs were not an issue. I recall his dog peeing on some lady's bags of grocery when she was paying for the week.

In another neighborhood, someone has this big german shepard that went through the front door glass at the mail man. He was cut up bad and rumor was that he lost a leg and sued for a million. The dog was put to sleep, that much I knew and there was a big blood stain on the sidewalk.

Rob

MecGen
04-10-2014, 04:38 AM
Last summer I was making a service call. We have a protocol when we enter private shops, first and foremost ask permission and better yet be escorted, I did both, and specifically asked about his guard dog.
I was bit from behind in the leg and pulled to the ground, an employee pulled the dog off, I am 200 lbs. I was not permanently injured so nothing became of it, I don't roll that way. I am now scared shattlkess off black German Shepards.

Jderavian
04-10-2014, 04:53 AM
Thanks for all your responses :)

MiklaDfar
04-10-2014, 06:08 AM
Let's see... 44 or so years ago... had a paper route.
Never killed or raped.
Used to kick and throw rocks at the dogs that pissed me off... those little yapping furry suckers were the worst.
Don't ever remember getting hurt... well... except for when I stole some ice cream sandwiches from Elmores Stand and got caught. Mr. Elmore beat me upside the head pretty good... that type of beating thing was not so frowned on back in that day (like getting whacked by the teacher with a ruler).
Sign something? Heck no... I was just glad to make my $2.50 every week... $3 on a good week.

paolo59
04-10-2014, 12:19 PM
Let's see... 44 or so years ago... had a paper route.
Never killed or raped.
Used to kick and throw rocks at the dogs that pissed me off... those little yapping furry suckers were the worst.
Don't ever remember getting hurt... well... except for when I stole some ice cream sandwiches from Elmores Stand and got caught. Mr. Elmore beat me upside the head pretty good... that type of beating thing was not so frowned on back in that day (like getting whacked by the teacher with a ruler).
Sign something? Heck no... I was just glad to make my $2.50 every week... $3 on a good week.

LOL Throwing papers at the crack of dawn in any and all sorts of weather was something I never wanted to do. Ha! Sounds like some enjoyable memories from Mr. Elmore! :) Those sort of things bring a smile to your face and a chuckle or two!

Frnkd
04-10-2014, 03:06 PM
LMAO I remember that crazy 'Pink Panther' series. Peter Sellers..."Does your dog bite? ( in that thick, ridiculous French accent). No! My dog doesn't bite! Arrrrgh!.....You said your dog doesn't bite!!!??? That's NOT my dog!" :) LOL Life is just chock full of *%$& like that Brother! :)


hahaha, I remember that dialogue. I share it often with the students when we are talking about assumptions and inferences.

Wyomann
04-10-2014, 03:49 PM
I was a paperboy when I was 14 - 15. Never signed anything like that as far as I can remember.

One time I did have to gouge out the eyes of a Rottweiler with my thumb since he attacked me while delivering papers.

Brackneyc
04-10-2014, 03:55 PM
I am a mailman and we don't sign anything we just know its a risk associated with the job. We are issued pepper spray for dogs, but I have never had to use it. I carry milk bones instead. I have had owners come out and be mad at their dog for letting me pass lol.


Idiot pet owners.

mtdman
04-10-2014, 04:19 PM
I had a paper route for 3 years in jr high school, about 30 years ago now. Not sure if they warned us about dogs or other things. We used to have to do collections on our own, thinking about it now makes me wonder why they didn't warn us about going into customers homes. I betcha now they would. Come to think about it, that's probably why paper delivery people don't do collections any more.

Anyways, never attacked or bit by a dog. There were big dogs on my route, but I wouldn't play games with them. If the dog wanted to come after me, I would just flat out not deliver the paper there. People figured it out quick.

V-240
04-10-2014, 05:37 PM
I never entered anyone's home, just conducted business from the porch.

I remember going door to door to my route customers and having some avoid answering the door to pay me. Jackwagons! I only made maybe a buck a month from each customer, and they tried to screw me out of that. It came out of my pocket when they didn't pay. I cancelled those deadbeats' subscriptions.

Then my own brothers stole cash out of my flimsy locked collection box in my room, so some months I made NO money or even went into the red and couldn't pay my manager. But that's a whole other thread. :mad:

paolo59
04-10-2014, 05:43 PM
I never entered anyone's home, just conducted business from the porch.

I remember going door to door to my route customers and having some avoid answering the door to pay me. Jackwagons! I only made maybe a buck a month from each customer, and they tried to screw me out of that. It came out of my pocket when they didn't pay. I cancelled those deadbeats' subscriptions.

Then my own brothers stole cash out of my flimsy locked collection box in my room, so some months I made NO money or even went into the red and couldn't pay my manager. But that's a whole other thread. :mad:

LOL Anymore it seems the morning paper is delivered by an adult driving around in a car. Times have changed! When I was a kid, 'work' was seasonal. Ha! Either raking the neighbor's leaves in the Autumn, or mowing their lawn in the Spring and Summer. :)

V-240
04-10-2014, 05:53 PM
LOL Anymore it seems the morning paper is delivered by an adult driving around in a car. Times have changed! When I was a kid, 'work' was seasonal. Ha! Either raking the neighbor's leaves in the Autumn, or mowing their lawn in the Spring and Summer. :)

Yup, delivered via car, billed via snail mail or some e-lectronickal method.

Even THAT is going the way of the dodo bird now because of people getting their newspaper online.

beachguy498
04-11-2014, 05:03 AM
Yup, delivered via car, billed via snail mail or some e-lectronickal method.

Even THAT is going the way of the dodo bird now because of people getting their newspaper online.

I've had the same shti-bird delivering my paper for the past 10 or so years. We pay through my checking account, it comes out automatically. We used to just write checks until his MOTHER called one day asking where's the $$? It was probably a day late in the mail. But she was pretty hot about what was maybe $15 a month at the time. I still get cards with my paper on the holidays like he's looking for a tip or something. I must say that the paper is on my driveway almost without fail for as long as I recall, a few times it was stolen before I got out to get it.

beachguy498
04-11-2014, 05:05 AM
I had a paper route for 3 years in jr high school, about 30 years ago now. Not sure if they warned us about dogs or other things. We used to have to do collections on our own, thinking about it now makes me wonder why they didn't warn us about going into customers homes. I betcha now they would. Come to think about it, that's probably why paper delivery people don't do collections any more.

Anyways, never attacked or bit by a dog. There were big dogs on my route, but I wouldn't play games with them. If the dog wanted to come after me, I would just flat out not deliver the paper there. People figured it out quick.

I had this one house... a black lady who always paid on time.. came to the door in sexy slips, open nightgowns showing her bra & panties. She always invited me in too. If I was a couple of years older, I may have taken her up on it.

jreacher
04-11-2014, 05:15 AM
I had a paper route at a fairly young age - like 3rd grade through maybe 7th (in the 80's).

I don't think I ever had to sign a release form. I also don't remember any specific dangers being discussed.

My most interesting encounters included:

A few push and shove fights. These weren't random encounters - I had an enemy at school that came to my route with about 10 of his friends to steal my papers, and also sent his older cousins after me to rough me up.

I saw an 80 something year old lady's boob when it slipped out of her robe when I was collecting money. Traumatized me something fierce.

I thought I was going to get kidnapped once when there was a creepy guy lurking on one of the street corners. I circled a block or two to avoid the guy to finish my route, and realized it was the adult son with down syndrome of somebody on the street (probably harmless) after I got a closer look.

Sprained my ankle trying to use my bike to deliver papers in a foot of snow. I think I slid on the ice and put my foot down wrong. I still finished the delivery.

Numerous scares from shadows, owls, or other weird sounds when delivering papers in the dark at 5AM on the weekends.