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Aesthetical
03-21-2014, 12:58 PM
Would you have enough time and is it worth \$1 billion?

Maybe if you organize a team of like 100 to submit brackets and divide it?

03-21-2014, 01:00 PM
We actually talked about in math class today. It's over 9 billion.

ODuck91
03-21-2014, 01:01 PM
Statistically speaking, the odds of getting a perfect NCAA tournament bracket are 1 in 9,223,372,036,854,775,808. That's 9.2 quintillion is 9.2 billion written 1 billion times. If everyone on earth filled out 100 brackets, it would theoretically take 13 million years to get a perfect bracket.

Aesthetical
03-21-2014, 01:02 PM
Statistically speaking, the odds of getting a perfect NCAA tournament bracket are 1 in 9,223,372,036,854,775,808. That's 9.2 quintillion is 9.2 billion written 1 billion times. If everyone on earth filled out 100 brackets, it would theoretically take 13 million years to get a perfect bracket.

u wot m8?

Reptarr
03-21-2014, 01:04 PM
Statistically speaking, the odds of getting a perfect NCAA tournament bracket are 1 in 9,223,372,036,854,775,808. That's 9.2 quintillion is 9.2 billion written 1 billion times. If everyone on earth filled out 100 brackets, it would theoretically take 13 million years to get a perfect bracket.

Yea but that's if you just randomly guess. If you fill one out intelligently (don't have 16 seeds beating 1 seeds etc.) it is more like 1 in 128 billion.

roko79
03-21-2014, 01:14 PM
Yea but that's if you just randomly guess. If you fill one out intelligently (don't have 16 seeds beating 1 seeds etc.) it is more like 1 in 128 billion.

Well then that's nothing

CompleXion
03-21-2014, 01:21 PM
63 games, assuming both teams have an equal 50-50 chance of winning, so 2^63 total different brackets outcomes. Odds alot better when you factor in strategy and knowledge of who is supposed to be better than who.

CurryTech777
03-21-2014, 01:23 PM
32 teams and 2 choices

so 64 different options

not that bad actually. i mean i dont really have much friends so i guess i can do all 64 myself. maybe next year

iMakeItRain100s
03-21-2014, 01:23 PM
Yea but that's if you just randomly guess. If you fill one out intelligently (don't have 16 seeds beating 1 seeds etc.) it is more like 1 in 128 billion.

But what if you had a 14 seed beating a 3 seed?

Aesthetical
03-21-2014, 01:24 PM
32 teams and 2 choices

so 64 different options

not that bad actually. i mean i dont really have much friends so i guess i can do all 64 myself. maybe next year

Not sure if srs

CompleXion
03-21-2014, 01:25 PM
32 teams and 2 choices

so 64 different options

not that bad actually. i mean i dont really have much friends so i guess i can do all 64 myself. maybe next year

BRB we all billionaires now

krogtaar
03-21-2014, 01:32 PM
32 teams and 2 choices

so 64 different options

not that bad actually. i mean i dont really have much friends so i guess i can do all 64 myself. maybe next year

this...lol at suckers that didn't fill out all 64 different brackets and guarantee they win 1 billion

SubwaySub
03-21-2014, 01:32 PM
32 teams and 2 choices

so 64 different options

not that bad actually. i mean i dont really have much friends so i guess i can do all 64 myself. maybe next year
Fck why didn't I just do this!

SuperHippo
03-21-2014, 01:32 PM
why not just create a computer program that would create every possible bracket

HumptyBrah
03-21-2014, 01:43 PM
why not just create a computer program that would create every possible bracket
How long do you suppose it would take to register 9 quintillion brackets with ESPN or whoever is giving away the money?

BiggyPharma
03-21-2014, 01:46 PM
Picking a perfect bracket is easier/harder depending on the year. Back in 2008 all four number one seeds made the final four, and it was pretty apparent that those 4 teams were head and shoulders above everyone else in their region. For that year it would have been much easier to fill out a perfect bracket than this year where 8-12 seeds are very competitive with pretty much everyone.

SubwaySub
03-21-2014, 01:51 PM
Picking a perfect bracket is easier/harder depending on the year. Back in 2008 all four number one seeds made the final four, and it was pretty apparent that those 4 teams were head and shoulders above everyone else in their region. For that year it would have been much easier to fill out a perfect bracket than this year where 8-12 seeds are very competitive with pretty much everyone.
That doesn't really make it any easier. Maybe your final four is easier to hit, but there's still pretty much endless combinations of ways to get to that final four.

HumptyBrah
03-21-2014, 01:53 PM
I don't care enough to check the math, but does it boggle anyone else's mind that 68 teams can produce over 9 quintillion different combinations? u wot?

BiggyPharma
03-21-2014, 02:06 PM
That doesn't really make it any easier. Maybe your final four is easier to hit, but there's still pretty much endless combinations of ways to get to that final four.

How does knowing the out come of 16 games not make it easier?

SubwaySub
03-21-2014, 02:48 PM
How does knowing the out come of 16 games not make it easier?
Because even if you know that the final 4 will be comprised of the #1 seed's the way the get there still has millions of combinations. There's 14 different teams that are playing against eachother, in more unpredictable matchups. To get all picks right for those 14 teams is still very unlikely. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, and saying it's easier if you take away five strings of hay. It is easier, but barely.

XFactah416
03-21-2014, 02:56 PM
Unless you have around 128 million cell phone numbers to use as well.. good luck jeff.

Warren Buffet's thing required you to input your cell.

I also don't think any phaggot who submits more than 1 bracket should be even considered in the running for "perfect" bracket or even good bracket. You don't get to say that you actually called an upset if 9 of your 10 other brackets didn't have the game.

iamgenus
03-21-2014, 02:58 PM
Because even if you know that the final 4 will be comprised of the #1 seed's the way the get there still has millions of combinations. There's 14 different teams that are playing against eachother, in more unpredictable matchups. To get all picks right for those 14 teams is still very unlikely. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, and saying it's easier if you take away five strings of hay. It is easier, but barely.

His point is it does make it easier.

Your point should be...it makes it easier but still fuking almost impossible.

03-21-2014, 03:01 PM
According to CNN there's 16 brackets that are still perfect

http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/news/companies/ncaa-brackets-billion-dollars/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

HayZues Christi
03-21-2014, 03:06 PM
I don't care enough to check the math, but does it boggle anyone else's mind that 68 teams can produce over 9 quintillion different combinations? u wot?

68 teams plus multiple rounds...

its like the powerball lottery, but you had to get all the number 5 times in a row.

diq
03-21-2014, 03:06 PM
Yea but that's if you just randomly guess. If you fill one out intelligently (don't have 16 seeds beating 1 seeds etc.) it is more like 1 in 128 billion.

But upsets happen.

isp
03-21-2014, 03:08 PM
According to CNN there's 16 brackets that are still perfect

http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/news/companies/ncaa-brackets-billion-dollars/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I wonder if Buffet offered to buy out their bracket entries for 100k a piece if they'd take it. I bet most would.

Briisk
03-21-2014, 03:10 PM
According to CNN there's 16 brackets that are still perfect

http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/news/companies/ncaa-brackets-billion-dollars/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Theres actually only 6 now, because the 10 others picked UMass over Tennessee. Everyone remaining has KU over Eastern Kentucky, and its a 3/3 split for Gonzaga or OK. So in a little bit, there will be 3 people left.

BiggyPharma
03-21-2014, 03:10 PM
I think more people would have had perfect brackets by now if the media didn't hype up the lower seeds, and make it seem like the favorite is such a lock for early round games. Everyone makes a huge deal over a 12 seed beating a 5 when in reality it is a toss-up most of the time.

isp
03-21-2014, 03:26 PM
Theres actually only 6 now, because the 10 others picked UMass over Tennessee. Everyone remaining has KU over Eastern Kentucky, and its a 3/3 split for Gonzaga or OK. So in a little bit, there will be 3 people left.

Where do you look at their brackets? When there's only one guy left I'm going to be pulling for him so hard. Lol.

Briisk
03-21-2014, 03:30 PM
Where do you look at their brackets? When there's only one guy left I'm going to be pulling for him so hard. Lol.

The leaderboards in the yahoo billion dollar bracket.

jassako
03-21-2014, 03:32 PM
Where do you look at their brackets? When there's only one guy left I'm going to be pulling for him so hard. Lol.

https://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/quickenloansbracket/group/all/standings