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RogerSterling
03-19-2014, 09:55 AM
An owner with DEEP pockets who finally admits he doesn't know **** about basketball, makes a full commitment to winning a championship and hands over full control to one of the best basketball minds of all time

Fuk Jerry Reinsdorf and GarPax, the bulls front office is so goddamn weak

LikeAMachine
03-19-2014, 10:15 AM
No one is jealous of the knicks. pls go

Spill512
03-19-2014, 10:18 AM
Just because Phil was a great coach doesn't mean he'll be good at running a team. MJ was a great player but he's a chit owner.

yieldtonothing
03-19-2014, 10:20 AM
lol don't be jealous of us
its like being jealous of someone terminally ill

ace_gauntlit
03-19-2014, 10:21 AM
Just because Phil was a great coach doesn't mean he'll be good at running a team. MJ was a great player but he's a chit owner. no he's not you fuking retard

Spill512
03-19-2014, 10:23 AM
no he's not you fuking retard

lol

L0lJ0ker3
03-19-2014, 10:27 AM
Dude I don't think Knicks are about to win anything in a while.

cashinout
03-19-2014, 10:32 AM
Just because Phil was a great coach doesn't mean he'll be good at running a team. MJ was a great player but he's a chit owner.

you're dumb as phuck if you don't think he's more qualified than just about everybody else

Spill512
03-19-2014, 10:35 AM
you're dumb as phuck if you don't think he's more qualified than just about everybody else

Why would you be jealous before he's even proved any worth as an owner?

RogerSterling
03-19-2014, 10:40 AM
because he has crazy funds to work with, is the best cultivator of a winning culture the league has had in the past 30 years, and can handle huge egos. Between him and the NY market attracting huge FAs will be easy as fuk.

what is required of his new position that you think he may not be qualified for? how does this situation compare to MJ owing the bobcats at all?

MusicalHam
03-19-2014, 10:42 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Darylmorey01.jpg
Nah, I got this majestic ****er

ace_gauntlit
03-19-2014, 10:46 AM
lol brb tons of new sponsorships and more revenue since Jordan took over

http://www.sponsorship.com/About-IEG/IEG-In-The-News/Bobcats--Sponsors-not-Flinching---Yet.aspx
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/11/18/Franchises/Bobcats.aspx
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/2014/02/at-the-break-charlotte-bobcats-like-what-they-see.html?page=all

brb EXPANSION TEAM 10 years ago, and made the playoffs with a bunch of role players 5 years later.
brb become Hornets next year and regain prestige and acquire even more sponsorships

Spill512
03-19-2014, 10:51 AM
because he has crazy funds to work with, is the best cultivator of a winning culture the league has had in the past 30 years, and can handle huge egos. Between him and the NY market attracting huge FAs will be easy as fuk.

what is required of his new position that you think he may not be qualified for? how does this situation compare to MJ owing the bobcats at all?

Being a player, coach, gm, or owner are entirely different positions is all I'm saying. I'd rather get some basketball geek to assess talent than a former coach. Phil has said some really potato things back when he was in LA as far as talent evaluation.

Tex came up with the triangle system. The GMs set him up with the roster. Phil exceeded in managing the locker room and getting players to buy in, that's what he prides himself on if you read his book. That skill doesn't directly translate all too well into being an owner.

broboma2012
03-19-2014, 10:51 AM
because he has crazy funds to work with, is the best cultivator of a winning culture the league has had in the past 30 years, and can handle huge egos. Between him and the NY market attracting huge FAs will be easy as fuk.

what is required of his new position that you think he may not be qualified for? how does this situation compare to MJ owing the bobcats at all?

that move all but guaranteed melo is staying put

Rebounds45
03-19-2014, 10:52 AM
MJ is getting better at it. He was chit at the Wizards though

Dangled
03-19-2014, 10:54 AM
no he's not you fuking retard


wot?

http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2012/04/26/042612-NBA-Bobcats-EN-PI_20120426230749702_660_320.JPG


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U5kmB8IaIoI/T5oRRf5f8mI/AAAAAAAAGG8/007ih9ejmpo/s1600/ap-201204262158791046624.jpg

ace_gauntlit
03-19-2014, 10:59 AM
wot?

http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2012/04/26/042612-NBA-Bobcats-EN-PI_20120426230749702_660_320.JPG


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U5kmB8IaIoI/T5oRRf5f8mI/AAAAAAAAGG8/007ih9ejmpo/s1600/ap-201204262158791046624.jpg Lakers went from Championship team to worst in the league within 3 years. Are we already labeling Kupchak the worst GM in the league now?

wildchild11
03-19-2014, 11:01 AM
Phil will be successful.

2 Rings as a player, a breathtaking 11 as a coach.

He's been on the floor, been on the bench, he knows exactly what it takes to meld egos and get fiery personalities to listen to him
There's pretty much no one more respected in the league.

And Phil, unlike MJ, doesn't have a raging ego.

Brb swagging up to the podium and announcing New York will run the Triangle. i think he can take the Knicks to the finals.

Dangled
03-19-2014, 11:02 AM
Lakers went from Championship team to worst in the league within 3 years. Are we already labeling Kupchak the worst GM in the league now?

we are talking about the bobcats.


0 division titles.

denny2008
03-19-2014, 11:07 AM
How about let him do something first before passing judgement either for or against. Dude has had literally 2 days in office and everyone is already saying he'll be the saviour or he'll do nothing

RogerSterling
03-19-2014, 11:28 AM
Being a player, coach, gm, or owner are entirely different positions is all I'm saying. I'd rather get some basketball geek to assess talent than a former coach. Phil has said some really potato things back when he was in LA as far as talent evaluation.

Tex came up with the triangle system. The GMs set him up with the roster. Phil exceeded in managing the locker room and getting players to buy in, that's what he prides himself on if you read his book. That skill doesn't directly translate all too well into being an owner.

being a former player to owner is not the same thing as being a former player to coach to president

jackson has a way better shot of being successful and has a much more complete resume. we know way more what hes capable of in his new role than a former player becoming owner.

i think its fair to say one of the greatest leaders and basketball/sports minds in the history of sports will have some success running a team...

chlaxman
03-19-2014, 11:49 AM
While I'm not sold that he's going to be a great GM, I'm also pretty sure he wouldn't trade a 1st for Bargnani or sign JR Smith to a big long term contract.

Twerk4it
03-19-2014, 11:54 AM
brb tons of new sponsorships and more revenue since Jordan took over

http://www.sponsorship.com/About-IEG/IEG-In-The-News/Bobcats--Sponsors-not-Flinching---Yet.aspx
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/11/18/Franchises/Bobcats.aspx
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/2014/02/at-the-break-charlotte-bobcats-like-what-they-see.html?page=all

brb EXPANSION TEAM 10 years ago, and made the playoffs with a bunch of role players 5 years later.
brb become Hornets next year and regain prestige and acquire even more sponsorships

Knicks worth recently climbed over a billion but when someone says they have bad ownership/management I think they mean from a personnel standpoint, Bobcats are a lottery team almost every year and still manage to draft more busts than stars.

GooBaaa
03-19-2014, 11:55 AM
What money and picks does he have to work with?

RogerSterling
03-19-2014, 11:57 AM
What money and picks does he have to work with?

never said he had lots of picks next year, but some shrewd business moves and good signings can easily get them on the rigth track

as for money:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/19/sports/basketball/how-dolan-wooed-jackson-to-lead-the-knicks.html?_r=0

“They’re going to come in, and they’re going to tell me what they want to do. They’re going to tell me how much it costs, and I’m going to say yes — assuming it doesn’t bankrupt the company. I don’t think they’ll come in with a bankrupt-the-company scenario, but I’ve told them that I’m willing to spend. We need a championship here.”

I don't think the owner of the most profitable team in the leagues largest market is hurting for cash to spend on his favorite toy

wildchild11
03-19-2014, 12:05 PM
Knicks worth recently climbed over a billion but when someone says they have bad ownership/management I think they mean from a personnel standpoint, Bobcats are a lottery team almost every year and still manage to draft more busts than stars.


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Twerk4it
03-19-2014, 12:10 PM
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Lol you'd think they'd be used to it by now

Ivan7x
03-19-2014, 12:14 PM
rockets have Daryl "Rape Mode" Morey and Les "Stacks" Alexander

not even slightly jelly of the knicks

porcupinetree
03-19-2014, 12:25 PM
I have no idea how Phil will do with the knicks. He's never been a GM.

He was a successful coach, yes, but he didn't assemble those teams. Also, he had the best players in the league on his teams. That makes is easier to win.
he doesn't have that in NY.

You gotta have thoroughbreds to win. A jackass does not win the Kentucky Derby.

CurryTech777
03-19-2014, 12:32 PM
Lakers went from Championship team to worst in the league within 3 years. Are we already labeling Kupchak the worst GM in the league now?

what kind of logic is this. any team can go from good to bad, very few can go from bad to good. Still waiting on the bobcats to do that.

BullBoy8
03-19-2014, 12:38 PM
Not jealous at all. What is so bad about the Bulls front office OP? Ya they are conservative, but id rather be conservative than crazy and ruin our future like the Knicks and Nets did. And Rose, Mirotic, and 2 1st rounders (who wont play, would redshirt yr 1) to the current bulls team and we are title contenders and will probably win the east for sure next year. Not sure what the Heat will be able to do for next year, and no one is worried about the Pacers. But hoping Lebron, Bosh, and Wade at least return to miami. But they could have a completely new supporting cast.

Gabe95
03-19-2014, 12:40 PM
brb tons of new sponsorships and more revenue since Jordan took over

http://www.sponsorship.com/About-IEG/IEG-In-The-News/Bobcats--Sponsors-not-Flinching---Yet.aspx
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/11/18/Franchises/Bobcats.aspx
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/2014/02/at-the-break-charlotte-bobcats-like-what-they-see.html?page=all

brb EXPANSION TEAM 10 years ago, and made the playoffs with a bunch of role players 5 years later.
brb become Hornets next year and regain prestige and acquire even more sponsorships

but who was winning?
Who was making it to the 2nd round?
Who was MJ's time as a GM for the Wizards?

Jordan Jockers gonna jordan jock

RogerSterling
03-19-2014, 01:44 PM
Not jealous at all. What is so bad about the Bulls front office OP? Ya they are conservative, but id rather be conservative than crazy and ruin our future like the Knicks and Nets did. And Rose, Mirotic, and 2 1st rounders (who wont play, would redshirt yr 1) to the current bulls team and we are title contenders and will probably win the east for sure next year. Not sure what the Heat will be able to do for next year, and no one is worried about the Pacers. But hoping Lebron, Bosh, and Wade at least return to miami. But they could have a completely new supporting cast.

I just hate having a cheap ass owner who uses his more successful team to finance his ****ty baseball team
And Gar who is obviously a slimy prick (firing ron adams just to prove his power to thibs, telling luol he won't be traded then trading him, telling asik he will match any offer then not matching, etc. etc.)
and paxson who is a pathetic mix of JR and Gar.

Bold and stupid are two different things, I like a bold FO actually WANTS a winning team and not just the Financial Championship, or at least a conservative FO who is not so blatantly out to not pay the luxury tax every year. It's inexcusable that the bulls are 1 of the top 3 most profitable teams EVERY YEAR and are in a top 3 market and one of the most recognizable global sports franchises, but are one of like 2 or 3 that never pay the tax (along with teams like the bobcats)

FGCHENG
03-19-2014, 01:49 PM
Phil will be successful.

2 Rings as a player, a breathtaking 11 as a coach.

He's been on the floor, been on the bench, he knows exactly what it takes to meld egos and get fiery personalities to listen to him
There's pretty much no one more respected in the league.

And Phil, unlike MJ, doesn't have a raging ego.

Brb swagging up to the podium and announcing New York will run the Triangle. i think he can take the Knicks to the finals.

This. No one expected Pat Riley to do what he did with the Heat. Only time will tell though, I really hope Phil Jackson turns the Knicks franchise around.


Lakers went from Championship team to worst in the league within 3 years. Are we already labeling Kupchak the worst GM in the league now?

Lol @ comparing Bobcats to Lakers. Uwotm8?

ace_gauntlit
03-19-2014, 01:50 PM
we are talking about the bobcats.


0 division titles.

in the league since 2004. Lakers since 1947.


what kind of logic is this. any team can go from good to bad, very few can go from bad to good. Still waiting on the bobcats to do that.

They didn't just go from good to bad. They went from dynasty to worst team in the league within three years. And again, Bobcats started as an expansion franchise. You don't go from a random assembly of role players to championship contender within a few years.


but who was winning?
Who was making it to the 2nd round?
Who was MJ's time as a GM for the Wizards?

Jordan Jockers gonna jordan jock

See above. Still made the playoffs and even had the best defense in the league after just 4 seasons. Currently a playoff team as well.
Brb "President of basketball operations" for ONE season.
Brb wanted Elton Brand over Kwame