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RAdaRuggedMan
03-18-2014, 01:51 PM
Keep in mind I'm using the term "superstar" very loosely here.
4 games below 40% shooting.
Defense not even once (BRB guarding the likes of Eddie House, Tony Allen, and Ronjo while Ray Allen or Paul Pierce is abusing your team).
Give up 24 point lead in game 4, choke in closing minutes.
Dunked on by PJ Brown
Lose by 39 in the elimination game

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darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 01:53 PM
everyone knew the 66-16 celtics were winning that chip. kobe gets massive credit for even making it that far... that was the celtics' year from the get go (you probably didn't even watch that season and just looked up the stats).

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 01:54 PM
everyone knew the 66-16 celtics were winning that chip. kobe gets massive credit for even making it that far... that was the celtics' year from the get go (you probably didn't even watch that season and just looked up the stats).

Kobe gets credit for fleecing the Grizzlies in a trade that gave them a blue chip all star for nothing?

Haha ok.

darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 01:55 PM
Kobe gets credit for fleecing the Grizzlies in a trade that gave them a blue chip all star for nothing?

Haha ok.

everyone knows that was the celtics' year. then once that kobe/pau team started clicking on all cylinders, the celtics continued to win 0 more titles. it all turned out great for kobe and the lakers really. the true celtics/lakers Finals was that 2010 one and you guys coughed it up (blew a 3-2 lead). that's the one everyone remembers.

RAdaRuggedMan
03-18-2014, 01:58 PM
everyone knew the 66-16 celtics were winning that chip. kobe gets massive credit for even making it that far... that was the celtics' year from the get go (you probably didn't even watch that season and just looked up the stats).
To be fair I was "rooting" for the Lakers as I was (still am) a big Lamar Odom fan and was still upset about the Cavs losing.


everyone knows that was the celtics' year. then once that kobe/pau team started clicking on all cylinders, the celtics continued to win 0 more titles. it
all turned out great for kobe and the lakers really. the true celtics/lakers Finals was that 2010 one and you guys coughed it up (blew a 3-2 lead). that's the one everyone remembers.
This is seriously the most textbook example of Laker-fan-logic.

Suit
03-18-2014, 02:00 PM
Pretty sure there is this guy named LeBron James who choked away an entire final in a much worse manner.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 02:00 PM
everyone knows that was the celtics' year. then once that kobe/pau team started clicking on all cylinders, the celtics continued to win 0 more titles. it all turned out great for kobe and the lakers really. the true celtics/lakers Finals was that 2010 one and you guys coughed it up (blew a 3-2 lead). that's the one everyone remembers.

Oh hahaha so it had nothing to do with Kevin Garnetts knee or Kendrick Perkins knee then? Ah ok.

jross2021
03-18-2014, 02:27 PM
Pretty sure there is this guy named LeBron James who choked away an entire final in a much worse manner.

this lol.

And Harden is incredibly overrated and was a 6th man at the time, but some people call him a superstar.. he had a pretty disgusting finals appearance.

darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 02:28 PM
and lebron came up a lot shorter in the 2011 finals.


Oh hahaha so it had nothing to do with Kevin Garnetts knee or Kendrick Perkins knee then? Ah ok.

bynum was always injured too. injuries are a part of the game.

jross2021
03-18-2014, 02:59 PM
and lebron came up a lot shorter in the 2011 finals.



bynum was always injured too. injuries are a part of the game.

hell, everyone was injured last season in the playoffs. LeBron has 2 *Championships.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 03:02 PM
and lebron came up a lot shorter in the 2011 finals.



bynum was always injured too. injuries are a part of the game.

Andrew Bynum and Kevin Garnett

lol because those are like ... the same player?

isp
03-18-2014, 03:12 PM
Manu is just a regular star, but he fukin sucked so bad last year.

FGCHENG
03-18-2014, 03:14 PM
I dunno brah, it's hard to beat this though





http://i42.tinypic.com/2icbfnm.jpg

laxster
03-18-2014, 03:20 PM
KG was able to dominate a soft ass Gasol in '08, once Gasol went back to his homeland for meditation and a strict rocky montage training segment he was ready the next time around

FGCHENG
03-18-2014, 03:22 PM
KG was able to dominate a soft ass Gasol in '08, once Gasol went back to his homeland for meditation and a strict rocky montage training segment he was ready the next time around

2008 KG was twice the player 2008 Gasol was.

laxster
03-18-2014, 03:38 PM
2008 KG was twice the player 2008 Gasol was.

Anyone doubting that should go back and watch the 2008 finals, it's cringeworthy watching Gasol get slapped around

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 03:40 PM
KG was able to dominate a soft ass Gasol in '08, once Gasol went back to his homeland for meditation and a strict rocky montage training segment he was ready the next time around

Lol ready for WHAT the next time around.

KG was out injured all of 2009, then Perk tore his ACL in game 6 of 2010


I swear Laker fans don't even watch their own team, talking like Gasol owned Kg in 09.... when KG did not play lol

HelloDurr
03-18-2014, 03:43 PM
Lol ready for WHAT the next time around.

KG was out injured all of 2009, then Perk tore his ACL in game 6 of 2010


I swear Laker fans don't even watch their own team, talking like Gasol owned Kg in 09.... when KG did not play lol
He mad Lakers will win a chip before celtics

TSizzIe
03-18-2014, 03:57 PM
Lol ready for WHAT the next time around.

KG was out injured all of 2009, then Perk tore his ACL in game 6 of 2010


I swear Laker fans don't even watch their own team, talking like Gasol owned Kg in 09.... when KG did not play lol
Aren't you a heat fan? Why are you defending the Celtics right now?

isp
03-18-2014, 04:01 PM
Aren't you a heat fan? Why are you defending the Celtics right now?

Lol, Celtics are his TEAM. Lebron is his player. (until Rondo is fully baking?)...

HelloDurr
03-18-2014, 04:03 PM
Lol, Celtics are his TEAM. Lebron is his player.

Don't know how this works....

Mind blown.

svtballa
03-18-2014, 04:04 PM
Lol ready for WHAT the next time around.

KG was out injured all of 2009, then Perk tore his ACL in game 6 of 2010


I swear Laker fans don't even watch their own team, talking like Gasol owned Kg in 09.... when KG did not play lol



Lol most of the laker fans posts on here are cringeworthy.... If perk stays healthy we win.

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 04:05 PM
Lol, Celtics are his TEAM. Lebron is his player.

Lol what a phaggot. Fuking hate clowns like him that ride a player instead of a team.

Phil9
03-18-2014, 04:05 PM
It was beyond brutal to watch Lebron in the 2011 Finals.

Baghdadassup
03-18-2014, 04:12 PM
Most pathetic moment in NBA history

http://moonraking.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/pierce.jpg

Never has a player so quickly established life time phaggot status.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bz6YrKYXzpk/Tc4crBft5XI/AAAAAAAAANc/QJNGrEx7w04/s1600/50314_140129486041854_2083279_n.jpg

sn24
03-18-2014, 04:21 PM
Lol ready for WHAT the next time around.

KG was out injured all of 2009, then Perk tore his ACL in game 6 of 2010


I swear Laker fans don't even watch their own team, talking like Gasol owned Kg in 09.... when KG did not play lol

If you think Perkins missing 2 games was more significant than Bynum missing an entire series you're a fuking retard

laxster
03-18-2014, 04:26 PM
Lol ready for WHAT the next time around.

KG was out injured all of 2009, then Perk tore his ACL in game 6 of 2010


I swear Laker fans don't even watch their own team, talking like Gasol owned Kg in 09.... when KG did not play lol

I never said he owned them, and by next time around I was talking about next time they matched up (2010 right?) But he actually outplayed KG in that series so..

I'm not even a Laker fan just grew up in Laker country

What are you talking about sir?

TexasMajor
03-18-2014, 04:26 PM
I dunno brah, it's hard to beat this though





http://i42.tinypic.com/2icbfnm.jpg

This....


Most pathetic moment in NBA history

http://moonraking.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/pierce.jpg

Never has a player so quickly establish life time phaggot status.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bz6YrKYXzpk/Tc4crBft5XI/AAAAAAAAANc/QJNGrEx7w04/s1600/50314_140129486041854_2083279_n.jpg



....and this.

Amaso
03-18-2014, 04:33 PM
I dunno brah, it's hard to beat this though

http://i42.tinypic.com/2icbfnm.jpg

I was actually cringing during that NBA Finals and his 4th quarter performances. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Lebron and the Heat to lose... but that was REALLY tough to watch.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 04:38 PM
please see kobe vs the pistons

please lebron vs the mavs

TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 05:02 PM
Kobe was the MVP of the 2008 Finals. The Lakers were simply over-matched.

Its not like MJ ever played great defenses int he Finals. The one time he did against the Sonics, he shot badly.

SRSmiscerIZsrs
03-18-2014, 05:04 PM
see 2006 finals
see 2011 finals

Two worst performances of ANY nba mvp EVER in a finals appearance.

ClevageGobbler
03-18-2014, 05:06 PM
Kobe did everything in his power to lead that team to the Finals and he sure as **** didn't quit at any point during those games. If you recall, and you don't because your ass started watching ball in 2012, (loled so fking hard @ your Raymond Felton crossover thread) the Lakers were missing Bynum and Ariza that series. Do you expect Kobe to cover the entire perimeter? Kobe was the only one that didn't play like a scared lil bitch. Pau wasn't ready. KG fcked him up. Lamar wasn't ready. Our best perimeter defender alongside Kobe couldn't play. Bynum was out. Not enough fire power to come close to the Celtics especially that Celtics team sheeeit.

Flakoe3
03-18-2014, 05:07 PM
but who was lebron?

BeastModeFTW
03-18-2014, 05:09 PM
LOL. But who was LeBron 2007? Lebron's Cavs got swept by the Spurs in 2007 and LeBron shot 35% fg, 20% from 3 and 69% Free throws while averaging 22 ppg. Oh yeah and 6 turnovers per game.

wildchild11
03-18-2014, 05:10 PM
lakers fans are rustleddddd

lmfao

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 05:12 PM
Kobe did everything in his power to lead that team to the Finals and he sure as **** didn't quit at any point during those games. If you recall, and you don't because your ass started watching ball in 2012, (loled so fking hard @ your Raymond Felton crossover thread) the Lakers were missing Bynum and Ariza that series. Do you expect Kobe to cover the entire perimeter? Kobe was the only one that didn't play like a scared lil bitch. Pau wasn't ready. KG fcked him up. Lamar wasn't ready. Our best perimeter defender alongside Kobe couldn't play. Bynum was out. Not enough fire power to come close to the Celtics especially that Celtics team sheeeit.

i would honestly like to hear your justification of kobe's performance vs the pistons

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:13 PM
If you think Perkins missing 2 games was more significant than Bynum missing an entire series you're a fuking retard

Bynum never missed ANY series against the celtics you idiot. Unless you're talking about when Bynum was a legit nobody in 08 and would have made exactly zero fukking difference lol. Keep proving your own retardation. Laker fans weren't even big on Bynum until you guys sucked and got blown out 4-0 during his "breakout" season.

Laker fans are hilarious, they can't even remember their OWN OPINIONS.

He didn't start 5 games in 08-09, but that was the year they didn't even play the celtics.

Srsly are you ****ing retarded?



lold so hard.

Bynum averages in 09 and 10, 6.3 and 3.7 (rofl) and 8.6 and 6.9

Damn son! How you live without this dude in 08?!

cashinout
03-18-2014, 05:15 PM
lakers fans are rustleddddd

lmfao

kobe could literally kill a white girl on live TV and kobetards would be like "well why was she there, where were her parents"

BeastModeFTW
03-18-2014, 05:16 PM
Bynum never missed ANY series against the celtics you idiot.

He didn't start 5 games in 08-09, but that was the year they didn't even play the celtics.

Srsly are you ****ing retarded?
LOL not sure if srs. Bynum missed the entire 2008 playoffs including the finals against the Celtics. Also to say Bynum was a nobody in 2008 is absurd. That was his breakout year. He was top 5 center. 13 ppg, 10 rbg, 2 blocks.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 05:17 PM
Bynum never missed ANY series against the celtics you idiot.

He didn't start 5 games in 08-09, but that was the year they didn't even play the celtics.

Srsly are you ****ing retarded?

lakers fans are theeeee worst.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:19 PM
LOL not sure if srs. Bynum missed the entire 2008 playoffs including the finals against the Celtics. Also to say Bynum was a nobody in 2008 is absurd. That was his breakout year. He was top 5 center. 13 ppg, 10 rbg, 2 blocks.

Are you ****ing retarded?

The year after his breakout he goes for 6 and 3 in the playoffs.


Damn. Game breaker son! He also only played fkn 35 games in 08. THIRTY FIVE! Strong definition of a breakout year you retard. Only starting in 25 games = BREAKOUT.

wildchild11
03-18-2014, 05:19 PM
kobe could literally kill a white girl on live TV and kobetards would be like "well why was she there, where were her parents"

lol. i made a similar thread...6 pages of rustle.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=154887913

ClevageGobbler
03-18-2014, 05:20 PM
i would honestly like to hear your justification of kobe's performance vs the pistons

Who showed up in that series for the Lakers? Kobe and Shaq. That's it.

Babyframes
03-18-2014, 05:21 PM
Lebron in 11'. Dumb phaggot should have 3 rings/fmvps right now but went full retard. Brb 17 ppg... Series STILL went 6 games and he was basically nonexistent down the stretch. If he plays even at his average level they win in 5 at most.

4567081110
03-18-2014, 05:22 PM
anyone who thinks that kobe didn't come up small in 2008 and/or lebron didn't come up small in 2011 is lying to themselves.


doesn't change the fact that they're both legendary talents in their own rights and IMO are both top 10 players of all time.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:25 PM
Who showed up in that series for the Lakers? Kobe and Shaq. That's it.

You apparently mean LITERALLY attended the gamne, because fukking lol @ kobe "showing up" in that series

22.6 points per game
2.8 rebounds per game
4.4 assists per game

38.05 field goal percentage


Meanwhile Shaq (as the 2nd option I might add, rofl)

26.6 10.8 on 63% shooting.

BeastModeFTW
03-18-2014, 05:25 PM
Are you ****ing retarded?
strong knowledge of basketball history. When Bynum got hurt the Lakers had the best record in the west. This was the same Lakers team which had won 42 games the year before and made no significant off season moves. Bynum played a significant role in this jump and this was his true breakout year considering the dude was behind KWAME BROWN and RONNY TURIAF on the depth chart before the season. Additionally, Bynum was making great strides as the season went along as indicated by his averages in January 2008 of 17.3ppg, 12.2rbg (He went from playing 15-20 minutes to upwards of 30 during this time period). Additionally, Bynum was a leading candidate for the most improved player award before his injury.

BeastModeFTW
03-18-2014, 05:28 PM
My bad on my last post. I believe the Lakers were half a game out of first place. When Bynum got hurt but you get the idea.

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:28 PM
Are you ****ing retarded?

The year after his breakout he goes for 6 and 3 in the playoffs.


Damn. Game breaker son! He also only played fkn 35 games in 08. THIRTY FIVE! Strong definition of a breakout year you retard. Only starting in 25 games = BREAKOUT.

So you don't think a guy averaging 13 points and 10 rebounds would make an impact in the finals game? You went full potato brah. I'm not saying the Lakers would have won with Bynum, but he would have at least offered some post D, since you know Gasol was getting worked inside that series.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 05:28 PM
Who showed up in that series for the Lakers? Kobe and Shaq. That's it.

kobe shot 38% (17% from 3) and refused to feed shaq the ball. kobe did not show up in that series. that performance is neck and neck for worst showing in the finals (with lebron's debacle).

please defend kobe's performance.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:29 PM
So you don't think a guy averaging 13 points and 10 rebounds would make an impact in the finals game? You went full potato brah. I'm not saying the Lakers would have won with Bynum, but he would have at least offered some post D, since you know Gasol was getting worked inside that series.

You fukkin high? He played 35 games. Only starting in 25. To even factor him in would be literally insane.

Calling that a breakout year? Are you joking? HE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY HALF THE SEASON.




Lol @ thinking 10 and 13 is swinging that one sided series. You literally did not watch any of that series, seems painfully obvious.

For anyone interested, here is how Bynum did that season vs the Celtics.

4 points 9 boards. Lose by 13 points.
8 points 2 boards. Lose by 19 points.

What a beast. Really handled KG well didn't he. Kg had 21 11 3 and 22 12 6 for reference.

Fukkin lol. Bynum providing post D..... rofl

darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 05:30 PM
i would honestly like to hear your justification of kobe's performance vs the pistons

he shot the lights out trying to get the Finals MVP, or lose the series (anything but win Shaq a 4th Finals MVP).

who doesn't know that?

WestAfrica
03-18-2014, 05:31 PM
kobe could literally kill a white girl on live TV and kobetards would be like "well why was she there, where were her parents"

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m04sn2yrUC1r85tr4.gif

Reps for life srs

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 05:34 PM
Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

please. justify this as well.

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:35 PM
You fukkin high? He played 35 games. Only starting in 25. To even factor him in would be literally insane.

Calling that a breakout year? Are you joking? HE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY HALF THE SEASON.




Lol @ thinking 10 and 13 is swinging that one sided series. You literally did not watch any of that series, seems painfully obvious.

For anyone interested, here is how Bynum did that season vs the Celtics.

4 points 9 boards. Lose by 13 points.
8 points 2 boards. Lose by 19 points.

What a beast. Really handled KG well didn't he. Kg had 21 11 and 22 12 for reference.

Fukkin lol. Bynum providing post D..... rofl

Lol brah. Why are you so rustled? I never said it would swing the series, but what I am saying is Bynum would have positively impacted the Lakers in the series. There is no denying that brah.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:35 PM
he shot the lights out trying to get the Finals MVP, or lose the series (anything but win Shaq a 4th Finals MVP).

who doesn't know that?

the term "shot the lights out" is generally used when someone shoots REALLY REALLY WELL.

What you meant to say, is kobe hogged the ball as much as possible and shot every time he touched the ball because he was so desperate for validation, and all he showed was that he a selfish piece of **** who cared about his own stats, not winning.

Ironically his stats were STILL vastly inferior to Shaq.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:35 PM
Lol brah. Why are you so rustled? I never said it would swing the series, but what I am saying is Bynum would have positively impacted the Lakers in the series. There is no denying that brah.

Unless your point was that the series would swing, then why would it even be worth mentioning? Srs.

It was being compared to losing KEVIN GARNETT WHO WAS AVERAGING 20 AND 10 coming off a DPOY season.

Why are you this stupid.

KBaller33
03-18-2014, 05:37 PM
It's LeBron in '11 and it's not even close.

As a LeBron fan that was the most frustrating series to watch. After he came up big against the Celtics and Bulls, he played the worst ball of his career against the Mavs. It's was nothing physical, it was mental. If he got out of his own head he would've had another 'ship and finals MVP.

At least Kobe had some aggressiveness against the Pistons and Celtics. And LeBron was aggressive in '07. But '11 was dissappointing.

gswarrior510
03-18-2014, 05:40 PM
lol sdballer literally beating the keyboard with his bloody fist while getting yelled at by his mom to vacuum his basement. This is pretty hilarious.

also lol at you arguing that losing perkins hurt celtics oh so bad, but losing 10/13 bynum didnt. Pretty funny. Carry on.
also lol at kevin garnett being 20/10, when he was clearly not the same player and averaged just 15/7 in playoffs.

BeastModeFTW
03-18-2014, 05:41 PM
ITT LeBron stans hating on Kobe when LeBron in 2007 had arguably the woat finals performance of a superstar in the modern era. 22 ppg on 35%, 20%, 69% fg,3pt,ft in a sweep.

RoxasBrah
03-18-2014, 05:41 PM
But who was Lebron in 2007 and 2011?

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:41 PM
Unless your point was that the series would swing, then why would it even be worth mentioning? Srs.

It was being compared to losing KEVIN GARNETT WHO WAS AVERAGING 20 AND 10 coming off a DPOY season.

Why are you this stupid.

Lol just lol at you calling me stupid. Coming from the guy taht doesn't want to admit that a 13 and 10 guy doesn't matter. And you talk about KG like he wasn't playing. Did he not play in the 2010 Finals? Come on brah don't go full potato.

And also lol at you riding lebron's dick while claiming to be a Celtics fan.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:42 PM
lol sdballer literally beating the keyboard with his bloody fist while getting yelled at by his mom to vacuum his basement. This is pretty hilarious.

also lol at you arguing that losing perkins hurt celtics oh so bad, but losing 10/13 bynum didnt. Pretty funny. Carry on.

Lol @ taking a guys averages for 35 games btw lol especially when you later gained a player who was FAR better offensively and operated in the same space.


Fukkin hilarious how retarded kobe fans are.

I call you kobe fans cuz you're obviously NOT laker fans lol

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:42 PM
ITT LeBron stans hating on Kobe when LeBron in 2007 had arguably the woat finals performance of a superstar in the modern era. 22 ppg on 35%, 20%, 69% fg,3pt,ft in a sweep.

Don't speak logic to Lebrick fans, they get so overly rustled.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:43 PM
Lol just lol at you calling me stupid. Coming from the guy taht doesn't want to admit that a 13 and 10 guy doesn't matter. And you talk about KG like he wasn't playing. Did he not play in the 2010 Finals? Come on brah don't go full potato.

And also lol at you riding lebron's dick while claiming to be a Celtics fan.

You didn't read anything did you.

Kevin Garnett missed the entire 2009 playoffs, which is what was being discussed. Just don't respond if you have no idea what you're talking about bruh.

It's too funny when a kobrick fan thinks they are speaking with logic lol, no logical line of reasoning ends with kobe being better than anyone he is compared to. Ever.

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:43 PM
Lol @ taking a guys averages for 35 games btw lol especially when you later gained a player who was FAR better offensively and operated in the same space.


Fukkin hilarious how retarded kobe fans are.

I call you kobe fans cuz you're obviously NOT laker fans lol

LOLOLOL. calls us not lakers fans but kobe fans. Coming from a huge Lebron fan while supposedly liking the celtics. Lololololol the irony is too good.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:44 PM
LOLOLOL. calls us not lakers fans but kobe fans. Coming from a huge Lebron fan while supposedly liking the celtics. Lololololol the irony is too good.

That isn't the definition of irony. Not surprising you lack the intellectual capacity to see patterns or similarities, let alone define irony.

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 05:44 PM
kobe did the world a favor by making sure shaq didnt get another finals mvp that he didnt deserve once again.

then he made sure shaq left.

we are forever indebted to kobe.


srs i hate that fat fukcer, im glad kobe did what he did.

he must have read that book "the art of war" by sun tsu or some chit

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:46 PM
kobe did the world a favor by making sure shaq didnt get another finals mvp that he didnt deserve once again.

then he made sure shaq left.

we are forever indebted to kobe.


srs i hate that fat fukcer, im glad kobe did what he did.

he must have read that book "the art of war" by sun tsu or some chit

^ Lol this is the type of "fan" the "laker fan" is.

They would rather tor**** their title hopes because they firmly believe it was Kobe Bryants team.... 10 years later.


LOL @ hating the guy who won all 3 of those titles, while loving the guy who lost you a title, drove the winner out, then demanded a trade.

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:46 PM
That isn't the definition of irony. Not surprising you lack the intellectual capacity to see patterns or similarities, let alone define irony.

Strong comeback.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:47 PM
Strong comeback.

Here is some ACTUAL irony for you. ^^^^^^^

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:47 PM
^ Lol this is the type of "fan" the "laker fan" is.

They would rather tor**** their title hopes because they firmly believe it was Kobe Bryants team.... 10 years later.


LOL @ hating the guy who won all 3 of those titles, while loving the guy who lost you a title, drove the winner out, then demanded a trade.

Yea cause shaq would have won those titles without Kobe? pls just go. You are making yourself look bad.

ClevageGobbler
03-18-2014, 05:48 PM
kobe shot 38% (17% from 3) and refused to feed shaq the ball. kobe did not show up in that series. that performance is neck and neck for worst showing in the finals (with lebron's debacle).

please defend kobe's performance.

That's not true. Kobe fed Shaq the ball he just didn't do it as often because the Pistons defense was all over Shaq. If you want to see how to play n limit the most dominant player to ever play besides Wilt check those games out. Only reason Lakers won a game is because Kobe came in clutch game 2.

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 05:49 PM
^ Lol this is the type of "fan" the "laker fan" is.

They would rather tor**** their title hopes because they firmly believe it was Kobe Bryants team.... 10 years later.


LOL @ hating the guy who won all 3 of those titles, while loving the guy who lost you a title, drove the winner out, then demanded a trade.


everyone knows kobe wouldve averaged 50ppg to win the lakers 3 titles if that fat fukcer wasnt there.

he demanded a trade for being stuck with a D league team that stood around picking their nose.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:49 PM
Yea cause shaq would have won those titles without Kobe? pls just go. You are making yourself look bad.

Here we are. Firmly planted in hypothetical land.

This is the only place where Kobe Bryant fans can make ANY argument for their favorite player, because it never happens in reality.


Hahahaha you lose again kid. See ya!

WestAfrica
03-18-2014, 05:50 PM
This whole thread
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TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 05:50 PM
LOL @ sdballer5588 still being bitter over Kobe not signing his autograph many moons ago.

Let it go. Better yet, look at the flowers..

darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 05:55 PM
the term "shot the lights out" is generally used when someone shoots REALLY REALLY WELL.

What you meant to say, is kobe hogged the ball as much as possible and shot every time he touched the ball because he was so desperate for validation, and all he showed was that he a selfish piece of **** who cared about his own stats, not winning.

Ironically his stats were STILL vastly inferior to Shaq.

yes, that is what i meant (really). say it however you want, he reached for the sky. kobe was being political in the 2004 Finals, he did what he did on purpose. he didn't come up short. he tried to shoot the lights out because he was beefing with Shaq.

Lebron in 2011 actually sucked for no ulterior reason. he really did just suck- he came up shorter than any superstar ever has in the Finals in the modern era. if Lebron actually showed up in that series, Dwayne Wade would have 2 Finals MVP trophies.

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 05:56 PM
Here we are. Firmly planted in hypothetical land.

This is the only place where Kobe Bryant fans can make ANY argument for their favorite player, because it never happens in reality.


Hahahaha you lose again kid. See ya!

Yet you were talking earlier how the Celtics would have won the finals had Garnett and Perkins been healthy. I welcome you to hypothetical land too my potato friend.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 05:58 PM
yes, that is what i meant (really). say it however you want, he reached for the sky. kobe was being political in the 2004 Finals, he did what he did on purpose. he didn't come up short. he tried to shoot the lights out because he was beefing with Shaq.

Lebron in 2011 actually sucked for no ulterior reason. he really did just suck- he came up shorter than any superstar ever has in the Finals in the modern era. if Lebron actually showed up in that series, Dwayne Wade would have 2 Finals MVP trophies.

I think it's funny you think it's okay for Kobe to be a huge phaggot and purposely lose a finals basically, but the idea that LeBron did not want to step on Wades toes in the finals is just some made up fantasy perpetuated by bron fans.

I'd say it was pretty obvious Wade still wanted to be "the man" in 2011, bron tried to satisfy that, and it ends up sabotaging the Heat. At least LeBron wasn't trying to toot his own horn by making HIMSELF the man and losing, he was trying to let Wade be the man, only for Wade to realize "holy ****, I am a WAY inferior first option to LeBron"


Yet you were talking earlier how the Celtics would have won the finals had Garnett and Perkins been healthy. I welcome you to hypothetical land too my potato friend.

Further proof you can't or just refuse to read threads you join halfway through. Stop posting, I'm done responding to someone who is this retarded.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:01 PM
That's not true. Kobe fed Shaq the ball he just didn't do it as often because the Pistons defense was all over Shaq. If you want to see how to play n limit the most dominant player to ever play besides Wilt check those games out. Only reason Lakers won a game is because Kobe came in clutch game 2.

please explain why shaq scored nearly every time he got the chance? the only player' limited' was kobe. 38% from the field 17% from 3.

Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

wildchild11
03-18-2014, 06:02 PM
from the fantastic mind that brought us alpha and beta debates on lebron and durant.


yes, that is what i meant (really). say it however you want, he reached for the sky. kobe was being political in the 2004 Finals, he did what he did on purpose. he didn't come up short. he tried to shoot the lights out because he was beefing with Shaq.

Lebron in 2011 actually sucked for no ulterior reason. he really did just suck- he came up shorter than any superstar ever has in the Finals in the modern era. if Lebron actually showed up in that series, Dwayne Wade would have 2 Finals MVP trophies.

your posts are so full of potato you stay putting farms outta business

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 06:02 PM
kobe was being political in the 2004 Finals


Lebron in 2011 actually sucked for no ulterior reason.


thank you. spot on

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:02 PM
yes, that is what i meant (really). say it however you want, he reached for the sky. kobe was being political in the 2004 Finals, he did what he did on purpose. he didn't come up short. he tried to shoot the lights out because he was beefing with Shaq.

Lebron in 2011 actually sucked for no ulterior reason. he really did just suck- he came up shorter than any superstar ever has in the Finals in the modern era. if Lebron actually showed up in that series, Dwayne Wade would have 2 Finals MVP trophies.
soooooo, you are really saying that kobe intentionally lost his team a finals series and this is better somehow? lol. kobe Stockholm syndrome case # 1222030


Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 06:03 PM
I think it's funny you think it's okay for Kobe to be a huge phaggot and purposely lose a finals basically, but the idea that LeBron did not want to step on Wades toes in the finals is just some made up fantasy perpetuated by bron fans.

I'd say it was pretty obvious Wade still wanted to be "the man" in 2011, bron tried to satisfy that, and it ends up sabotaging the Heat. At least LeBron wasn't trying to toot his own horn by making HIMSELF the man and losing, he was trying to let Wade be the man, only for Wade to realize "holy ****, I am a WAY inferior first option to LeBron"



Further proof you can't or just refuse to read threads you join halfway through. Stop posting, I'm done responding to someone who is this retarded.


Oh hahaha so it had nothing to do with Kevin Garnetts knee or Kendrick Perkins knee then? Ah ok.

This post comes from you responding to darknessman, who was talking about the Lakers winning the next two titles and not the Celtics. Now, does your post not somewhat imply you believe that a healthy KG and Perkins could have altered those playoffs? Srs you need to take a step back and relax, i think you might have a heart attack with how rustled you are.

sdballer5588
03-18-2014, 06:04 PM
This post comes from you responding to darknessman, who was talking about the Lakers winning the next two titles and not the Celtics. Now, does your post not somewhat imply you believe that a healthy KG and Perkins could have altered those playoffs? Srs you need to take a step back and relax, i think you might have a heart attack with how rustled you are.

Do you not read? Holy ****... too... retarded.... must....not.....respond.....

Poppingtags
03-18-2014, 06:06 PM
Do you not read? Holy ****... too... retarded.... must....not.....respond.....

RIP in peace sdballer.

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 06:12 PM
honestly, that's it. darkness just made me realize, that Kobe's the only gifted individual that can succeed in Politics as a young NBA star.

and for that reason he is GOAT.

even MJ couldn't run out shaq if he wanted to.

best all around player = kobe

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 06:13 PM
soooooo, you are really saying that kobe intentionally lost his team a finals series and this is better somehow? lol. kobe Stockholm syndrome case # 1222030


Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%


this is exactly why he is GOAT player. he succeeded in politics while covering it up.

he knew he had to perform badly but put up enough points.


god damn, such precision.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:15 PM
honestly, that's it. darkness just made me realize, that Kobe's the only gifted individual that can succeed in Politics as a young NBA star.

and for that reason he is GOAT.

even MJ couldn't run out shaq if he wanted to.

best all around player = kobe

i think the pressure of expectations got to him.


Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

wildchild11
03-18-2014, 06:16 PM
honestly, that's it. darkness just made me realize, that Kobe's the only gifted individual that can succeed in Politics as a young NBA star.

and for that reason he is GOAT.

even MJ couldn't run out shaq if he wanted to.

best all around player = kobe


this is exactly why he is GOAT player. he succeeded in politics while covering it up.

he knew he had to perform badly but put up enough points.


god damn, such precision.

2/10 trolling effort

TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 06:17 PM
i think the pressure of expectations got to him.


Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%
What's his record phaggot?

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:17 PM
this is exactly why he is GOAT player. he succeeded in politics while covering it up.

he knew he had to perform badly but put up enough points.


god damn, such precision.

didn't get that rape charge swept under the rug.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:19 PM
What's his record phaggot?
Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

did you not see that? those are the records of his game 7 performances.

TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 06:20 PM
Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

did you not see that? those are the records of his game 7 performances.
W/L record

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 06:22 PM
didn't get that rape charge swept under the rug.


that was done to strengthen the bond between him and phil.

he knew that phil was getting tired of him not listening and wanted to trade him.

after the rape case, phil supported kobe even more than before. and even today, phil says the closest bond between himself and any one of his players is with Kobe.

if not raping a girl to make it look like you raped her to only get the charges dropped to have the GOAT coach say you have the closest relationship with him isn't success, then idk what it.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:22 PM
W/L record

you mean the lakers record. lol

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 06:23 PM
2/10 trolling effort

no it's a 7 at least

i promise

BostonRockets
03-18-2014, 06:24 PM
that was done to strengthen the bond between him and phil.

he knew that phil was getting tired of him not listening and wanted to trade him.

after the rape case, phil supported kobe even more than before. and even today, phil says the closest bond between himself and any one of his players is with Kobe.

if not raping a girl to make it look like you raped her to only get the charges dropped to have the GOAT coach say you have the closest relationship with him isn't success, then idk what it.

sauce? im guessing one of his books?

edit: maybe im losing it cant even tell if this guy is trolling

IndianBrah92
03-18-2014, 06:26 PM
sauce? im guessing one of his books?

edit: maybe im losing it cant even tell if this guy is trolling

nope, it was a recent interview or on on the ESPN shows actually.

as soon as i find it ill post it here.

TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 06:27 PM
you mean the lakers record. lol
Lawl, you're such a phaggot. Kobe plays for titles, not stats.

Telliking
03-18-2014, 06:28 PM
lakers fans are rustleddddd

lmfao

I can't even believe a troll thread as bad as this got srs replies tbh

evansanity
03-18-2014, 06:30 PM
Funny, OP leaves out that the great LeBron James only could lead the Miami heat to a 15-67 record that season...Now that my friend is a not only a choke job, but a hanged job.

darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 06:36 PM
your posts are so full of potato you stay putting farms outta business

and you plaster my name all over the board every time you post. you can't get The Darkness off your mind, foh you Darkness stan.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 06:38 PM
Lawl, you're such a phaggot. Kobe plays for titles, not stats.
then why did he try to let his nuts hang vs the pistons only to get is little pee pee whacked? why did he force out shaq when him staying meant more ringz brah?

I OuTsiDeR I
03-18-2014, 06:44 PM
everyone knew the 66-16 celtics were winning that chip. kobe gets massive credit for even making it that far... that was the celtics' year from the get go (you probably didn't even watch that season and just looked up the stats).You clearly didn't watch the playoffs. Yes INITIALLY Celtics were favored. But once the playoffs went on, NOBODY was sold on them. The went to 7 gms in the first round and second to the #8 and #4 seeds, and NEVER WON A ROAD GAME.

Part of the reason was Ray Allen, he was shooting pretty horrible from 3 and did a huge disappearing act. Starting from gm 6 & 7 in round 1 he shot 2/13 = 15% from 3. The entire second round against the cavs? 17% from 3. He regained his touch in the ECF and from then on the rest is history. If anything Lakers looked like they were favored to win that year the way they were playing and took out Spurs in WCF.

darknessmanX
03-18-2014, 06:48 PM
You clearly didn't watch the playoffs. Yes INITIALLY Celtics were favored. But once the playoffs went on, NOBODY was sold on them. The went to 7 gms in the first round and second to the #8 and #4 seeds, and NEVER WON A ROAD GAME.

If anything Lakers looked like they were favored to win that year the way they were playing and took out Spurs in WCF.

i remember all of that. and once the Finals started the Celtics went up 2-0, and it was obvious who the better team was. i can remember telling people "It's over." after the first 2 games, and it really was. if you pan the camera out and look at the big picture, that 66-16 Celtics squad in 2008 was one of the greatest teams of the modern era. that 2008 Lakers team was not in their tier, even though that Lakers team was hot at the time and it seemed like they could hang.

I OuTsiDeR I
03-18-2014, 06:57 PM
i remember all of that. and once the Finals started the Celtics went up 2-0, and it was obvious who the better team was. i can remember telling people "It's over." after the first 2 games, and it really was. if you pan the camera out and look at the big picture, that 66-16 Celtics squad in 2008 was one of the greatest teams of the modern era. that 2008 Lakers team was not in their tier, even though that Lakers team was hot at the time and it seemed like they could hang. Season doesn't matter in the playoffs. They were struggling BAD. No road wins til the ECF is horrible for a greatest team of the modern era. Lakers were hot and good enough to win it. Yes it's easy to say it was clear after the fact they lost 2 games. But when the Finals started Lakers were baking and they looked to be favored to win even though they didn't have home court. Boston finally put everything together and nobody thought that Perkins/Garnett were going to give Gasol that much trouble.

Just like OKC appeared to be favored over Miami when they beat the Spurs in 2012. Then Miami went HAM on them.

GetBigyo
03-18-2014, 07:05 PM
Lebron in 11'. Dumb phaggot should have 3 rings/fmvps right now but went full retard. Brb 17 ppg... Series STILL went 6 games and he was basically nonexistent down the stretch. If he plays even at his average level they win in 5 at most.
Even as a Bron fan, sadly this.

Damn, if he didn't go full potato and JUST played at like 50% of his usual self instead of 25%, he would have 3peated.

TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 07:11 PM
then why did he try to let his nuts hang vs the pistons only to get is little pee pee whacked? why did he force out shaq when him staying meant more ringz brah?
What are you talking about? That 04 team had no business even making the Finals. The Pistons were simply better, and Kobe was forced to take tons of last second shot clock attempts because no one other than Kobe/Shaq scored in double digits for the first 4 games. Would have been a sweep without Kobe's heroics in G2.

And Shaq left over money. Buss offered him a contract, Shaq rejected it.

Bezzz
03-18-2014, 07:13 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmsqe4LoNU1qcgalmo1_1280.jpg

Lebron in '11. Dirk straight up put that peasant and the wagon down.

sn24
03-18-2014, 08:14 PM
Bynum never missed ANY series against the celtics you idiot. Unless you're talking about when Bynum was a legit nobody in 08 and would have made exactly zero fukking difference lol. Keep proving your own retardation. Laker fans weren't even big on Bynum until you guys sucked and got blown out 4-0 during his "breakout" season.

Laker fans are hilarious, they can't even remember their OWN OPINIONS.

He didn't start 5 games in 08-09, but that was the year they didn't even play the celtics.

Srsly are you ****ing retarded?



lold so hard.

Bynum averages in 09 and 10, 6.3 and 3.7 (rofl) and 8.6 and 6.9

Damn son! How you live without this dude in 08?!

The 07-08 season was where he finally started to break out. Dude was a monster. He was the defensive interior presence they needed to beat Boston, and he missed the entire series. And also, in 2009, he wasn't fully healthy and had to face the best big in the league, offensively and defensively in Dwight Howard.

Rebounds45
03-18-2014, 08:26 PM
It was Radmanovic's fault.

And Boston had PJ Brown and Sam Cassell

detrimental
03-18-2014, 08:43 PM
Pistons shut Kobe the fuk down in '04 with aggressive hand-checking. Half the reason it was outlawed the following season. By that point the rift between he and Shaq had grown and his ego was out of control, he wasn't deferring to Shaq again. Even if it meant losing.

Lunatic
03-18-2014, 08:49 PM
Pretty sure there is this guy named LeBron James who choked away an entire final in a much worse manner.He's a diehard Lebron nuthugger, so he obviously wonj't admit that. And what about Westbrook? OI watched every game and I still think he's the reason OKC lost. All he kept doing was throwing bricks at the basket.

broboma2012
03-18-2014, 09:20 PM
What are you talking about? That 04 team had no business even making the Finals. The Pistons were simply better, and Kobe was forced to take tons of last second shot clock attempts because no one other than Kobe/Shaq scored in double digits for the first 4 games. Would have been a sweep without Kobe's heroics in G2.

And Shaq left over money. Buss offered him a contract, Shaq rejected it.


holy fuk. no business even making the finals? only did what they did because of kobe? never has a detrimental novel been more needed. please set this moron straight. I have to go to sleep. please tell me how a player who is only shooting 38% (17% from 3) is helping your team? especially when your '2nd option' is scoring more than you despite way less attempts. he literally cost them that series and when it happened it was considered one of the biggest upsets ever.

Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%

THEHEADLIN3R
03-18-2014, 09:23 PM
Lol @ a Lebron fan mentioning the Finals.

Also pretty sure Lebron got knocked out by those very same Celtics and shot 35% for the series.

TaeBoNinja
03-18-2014, 10:14 PM
holy fuk. no business even making the finals? only did what they did because of kobe? never has a detrimental novel been more needed. please set this moron straight. I have to go to sleep. please tell me how a player who is only shooting 38% (17% from 3) is helping your team? especially when your '2nd option' is scoring more than you despite way less attempts. he literally cost them that series and when it happened it was considered one of the biggest upsets ever.

Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
20.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 4.8 APG, .9 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG, 38.5 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 70.2 FT%
He shot 38% because they kept dumping him the ball with 5 seconds on the clock. he was the only who could create. Malone was hurt, and they had no depth by 2004. Kobe willed them past SA & Min. They were wore down by the Finals, and Phil got outcoached by Brown.

HelloDurr
03-18-2014, 10:41 PM
Strong rustled bronie fans itt...

ClevageGobbler
03-18-2014, 11:00 PM
It was Radmanovic's fault.

And Boston had PJ Brown and Sam Cassell

Thank you. It was a lot of things but I knew I wasn't the only one disappointed in his play.

lsiberian
03-19-2014, 07:44 AM
Shaq did in his first finals. Lebron did in his first finals. Everyone forgets the sweeps, but they did happen. Still Manu had the biggest choke job last season, but he's not exactly prime Manu anymore. Manu is definitely a superstar globally. Americans hate him for beating us in 2004.

socrates07
03-19-2014, 02:09 PM
lol sdballer literally beating the keyboard with his bloody fist while getting yelled at by his mom to vacuum his basement. This is pretty hilarious.

kekekeekekeekekekeekekekeke

RAdaRuggedMan
08-18-2014, 02:06 AM
He's a diehard Lebron nuthugger, so he obviously wonj't admit that. And what about Westbrook? OI watched every game and I still think he's the reason OKC lost. All he kept doing was throwing bricks at the basket.
Considering I use the term "superstar" very loosely to include Kobrick, you may be on to something.
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