PDA

View Full Version : Worst rule in the NFL?



reverse79
02-17-2014, 07:31 PM
Spiking the ball to stop the clock =\= intentional grounding

How can the NFL explain the potato logic behind this....

mngardne
02-17-2014, 07:38 PM
Digest of Rules Main
Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass

Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).


Sauce: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

feardafronfz3
02-17-2014, 07:42 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/23/field-goal-call-in-green-bay-turned-on-question-of-possession/



While the league office officially remains neutral when it comes to the outcomes of games, folks at 345 Park Avenue likely exhaled a bit when the Steelers managed to prevail at Lambeau Field on Sunday.

If Pittsburgh had lost, a controversial ruling after a blocked field goal in the third quarter of the game would have been a lot more controversial.

Per a league source with knowledge of the rules and their application, the decision to give the Packers a first down after an illegal batting call against Ziggy Hood turned on the belief by the officials that the Steelers never secured possession of the ball.

On field goal attempts touched by the defense, possession automatically changes if a member of the defense touches the ball on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Because the ball in this specific case never crossed the line of scrimmage, the Steelers could acquire possession only by actually possessing the ball. If the Steelers had acquired possession, the foul by Hood would have given the Steelers the ball, after application of the penalty yardage.

The problem with the ruling comes from the decision of the officials to not award possession to the Steelers, since safety Ryan Clark appeared to scoop the ball up and attempt to lateral it to cornerback William Gay. Coach Mike Tomlin tried to challenge the decision, but the question of whether Clark secured possession is not subject to replay review.

Per the source, if possession in that situation were subject to review, a reversal likely would have been justified. But the source said that doesnít make the decision by the officials a clear error, given the unique nature of the situation and the speed with which the events unfolded in real time.

That explanation may not have been good enough for Steelers fans if Pittsburgh hadnít still won the game.

HumptyBrah
02-17-2014, 07:43 PM
Seahawks being allowed to pipe artificial crowd noise into the stadium






















http://www.allmystery.de/i/t51e4b5_1cd234e6_half-trollface.jpeg

EastCoastNiner
02-17-2014, 07:48 PM
I'm not a fan of when there are 10-20 seconds left on the game clock, and the defense commits a penalty (such as PI) and the offense continues the play, and the time off the clock is not put back on.

If there's a team that's on their own 40 yard line with 20 seconds to go, the defense can commit holding against them three times and pretty much burn the entire game clock.

mngardne
02-17-2014, 07:52 PM
Srs though the rule about them calling hard hits gets missed too many times. Not every hard shot is a hit to the head.

Also Niners Vs. Seahawks game 2 Niners blocked a punt and Seattle batted it forward. It wasn't a loss of downs penalty and it doesn't get called at the spot. So basically if Niners wanted to take the ball they would have to either replay 4th down, not likely to block a punt again, or take the ball at the spot it was picked up or went out of bounds at rather than the spot the ball was batted (penalty committed) from. This is a terrible rule because basically it was a good idea to make an illegal play because no actual harm was done if anything the player helped his team by committing a penalty.

reverse79
02-17-2014, 07:57 PM
Digest of Rules Main
Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass

Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).


Sauce: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

I know the difference...but the word play is terrible.


If a qb goes to spike the ball..and his center backs up too much and throws it off the centers cleat...is that a live ball or is it down?

westbigballin
02-17-2014, 07:57 PM
I'm not a fan of when there are 10-20 seconds left on the game clock, and the defense commits a penalty (such as PI) and the offense continues the play, and the time off the clock is not put back on.

If there's a team that's on their own 40 yard line with 20 seconds to go, the defense can commit holding against them three times and pretty much burn the entire game clock.

This happened during the Broncos-Colts game towards the end. I think Indy was punting and kept holding on the punt, forcing like 3 different punts and a huge time burn off.

dmoneythegoat
02-17-2014, 08:00 PM
Literally came in tto ask how spiking isn't intentional grounding

folly412
02-17-2014, 08:07 PM
The opposite, taking a knee for three downs at 40 seconds a crack to end the game. With less than two minutes to go, teams with the lead should be required to pick up positive yardage or the clock stops.

EastCoastNiner
02-17-2014, 08:16 PM
The opposite, taking a knee for three downs at 40 seconds a crack to end the game. With less than two minutes to go, teams with the lead should be required to pick up positive yardage or the clock stops.

Please, tell me you are trolling......please. This is quite possibly the most potato post I've seen here in a while.

folly412
02-17-2014, 08:24 PM
Please, tell me you are trolling......please. This is quite possibly the most potato post I've seen here in a while.

It's lame. If they want to do away with extra points, this is equally pointless and they should just end the game when a team gets the ball in this situation and the other is out of timeouts instead of these stupid "plays". How many other sports just watch the final 3.33% of a close game tick away with no purpose? Got to make all 27 outs in baseball, got to hit your free throws in basketball.

J Jizzle agrees: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/jerry-jones-thinks-kneel-downs-should-be-banned/

Lamborg
02-17-2014, 08:25 PM
Certain plays not being reviewable. Everything should be f*cking reviewable

mngardne
02-17-2014, 08:30 PM
the level of potato in this thread is absurd

we idaho now

TTexasTT
02-17-2014, 08:39 PM
Making them wear helmets. That **** has ruined the game.