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mikek2111987
01-12-2014, 02:24 PM
I'm 27, 6'4" and 175lbs. If I stop lifting I will quickly drop down to my natural body weight of about 160lbs, so in other words I am very skinny with looong slender limbs and a fast metabolism.

I have been stuck at 175lbs for what feels like months now. I did Shortcut to Size and got some gains, did my own thing for a little while, and now i'm into my second week of Built by Science. I do not do cardio as I play hockey once or twice a week and my job is VERY physical, I sleep 6-8 hours a night. I work on the road (my office is a truck) so the shortcut to size diet works fantastic for me, everything is very portable. I am about 2/3 through a tub of Pro Complex gainer, and it has only given me about 2lbs, which I think is mostly in my gut. I eat many small meals instead of a couple huge ones because of a stomach condition that will cause me to feel awful for hours if I over eat. I drink a couple beers on the weekend and quit smoking 6 months ago.


I think that's a pretty solid background, here is the diet and supps:

Breakfast:
1 scoop whey
3 whole eggs
3 egg whites
Pinch of fat free cheddar cheese
2 turkey sausage links
1 packet low sugar oatmeal

(Lots of black coffee in between these 2...)

Snack 1:
Chobani greek yogurt
Clif bar

Lunch:
Turkey or ham sandwich on whole wheat
Almonds, single serve packet
Large apple
Quaker Popped rice snacks, small bag
Starkist tuna creations, 1 pouch

Snack 2:
PB&J sandwich on whole wheat
Friggo low fat string cheese
1 scoop whey

Dinner is also post workout meal, it varies daily but it is usually something like:
(Assume two servings)
Ground sirloin
Barilla Omega 3 whole wheat rigatoni
Ragu low sodium sauce

Snack 3:
Mixed fruit (berries & pineapple)
Fat free cottage cheese
Handful mixed nuts

Bed:
ON Pro complex gainer, 1 serv
(Off days its a scoop of peanut butter and 1 scoop protein)

Supps:
Musclepharm Armor V (meh...switching to Orange Triad once its gone)
Kre Alkalyn EFX powder
ON Fish oil
Labrada labs Super charge
ON 100% whey gold standard
ON Pro complex gainer


HELP

cls91
01-12-2014, 02:27 PM
Eat more. Its not uncommon for people to need >4,000 calories to gain...especially at 6'4

AlwaysTryin
01-12-2014, 02:32 PM
Eat more

Also, you list no measurements of food items

Do you actually weigh items?

SuperHippo
01-12-2014, 02:33 PM
eat more or reduce physical activity

MrBillson
01-12-2014, 02:34 PM
First, I urge you to read all of the stickies on this forum as you appear to be very misinformed about nutrition.

Second, are you actually weighing and tracking everything you eat?

Third, why are you consuming so many supplements?

Fourth, why are you consuming reduced fat products?

beastlymandude
01-12-2014, 02:35 PM
Eat more. Its not uncommon for people to need >4,000 calories to gain...especially at 6'4

This^

At your stats and activity level, you require large amounts of energy.

InfiniteForward
01-12-2014, 02:36 PM
Eat more chicken and avocado.

DavidUnderhand
01-12-2014, 02:45 PM
^^ If you like it ... otherwise don't. I'm 6'0 and at 170 I was eating roughly 4000 a day during a physically intense job and hardly gaining. You certainly need to eat more and more importantly track what you eat.

PBateman2
01-12-2014, 03:24 PM
Fat free cheese? Turkey Sausage? Egg Whites? Fat Free Cottage Cheese?

Whole cheddar, pork sausage, more whole eggs, 4% cottage cheese, etc..

mikek2111987
01-12-2014, 05:04 PM
Good god, eat more? I'm going to eat myself out of a house at this rate. Valid points though, I guess I get myself stuck in the habit of lean gaining and fat free crap. Time to change that

Hunttarded
01-12-2014, 05:18 PM
Fat free cheese? Turkey Sausage? Egg Whites? Fat Free Cottage Cheese?

Whole cheddar, pork sausage, more whole eggs, 4% cottage cheese, etc.. Don't forget chocolate milk. :D

Trigger543
01-12-2014, 05:24 PM
Good god, eat more? I'm going to eat myself out of a house at this rate. Valid points though, I guess I get myself stuck in the habit of lean gaining and fat free crap. Time to change that

Try going on a seefood diet. See food? Eat it.