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dillard69
10-06-2013, 04:13 PM
I weigh about 125lbs right now. Looking to bulk up. Not really concerned with putting on a little fat at this point.

This is what im shooting for:
3000 cals
375g carbs
125g fats
150g protien

I added it up my maintenance came out to be between 2000-2250, but that sounded a little low, so I tried to be a little generous with my numbers.

WMLifting
10-06-2013, 04:33 PM
dear lord almight, 50% surplus bulk! haha I'm bulking on 2550 at the current time, but whatever you feel comfortable with...

dillard69
10-06-2013, 04:40 PM
Well I'm sure it's going to be difficult to hit those numbers at first, because I just moved to 3rd shift and it has threw my eating habits off. I don't have much of an appetite so its more or less something to work up to over a couple of weeks.

WMLifting
10-06-2013, 04:50 PM
Well I'm sure it's going to be difficult to hit those numbers at first, because I just moved to 3rd shift and it has threw my eating habits off. I don't have much of an appetite so its more or less something to work up to over a couple of weeks. Dude stick to a 10-20% surplus. anything over leads to unwanted fat gain and probably a 75/25 fat to muscle ratio, if your lucky and a beginner.

softpounder
10-06-2013, 04:57 PM
Dude stick to a 10-20% surplus. anything over leads to unwanted fat gain and probably a 75/25 fat to muscle ratio, if your lucky and a beginner.

Even beginners won't be gaining 75/25 muscle vs fat ratio. FYI.

But your intention is correct.

Stick to a smaller surplus to mitigate the fat gains.

WMLifting
10-06-2013, 04:59 PM
Even beginners won't be gaining 75/25 muscle vs fat ratio. FYI.

But your intention is correct.

Stick to a smaller surplus to mitigate the fat gains.
I said fat to muscle ratio, I think you might have read my post wrong.
OP I gained 14 pounds in 3 months when I first started and I can honestly say it was 70% fat and that I was stupid to do so.

softpounder
10-06-2013, 05:02 PM
I said fat to muscle ratio, I think you might have read my post wrong.
OP I gained 14 pounds in 3 months when I first started and I can honestly say it was 70% fat and that I was stupid to do so.

OH HAHA.

Hangover problems.

That is 100% right.

Yeah, anything northwards of 20% surplus is really gonna be 75/25 fat vs muscle.

dillard69
10-06-2013, 05:13 PM
When I did the math on the macros according to the stickies that's how they came out, which is roughly around 2900 calories. I don't know how my maintenance calories came out so much lower.

dillard69
10-06-2013, 05:19 PM
If I add up my macros more towards the lower end of the spectrum that puts me at
125 protein (400 cal)
250g carbs (1000 cal)
100g fats (900 cal)
So 2300 cal does that sound more reasonable? Possibly go up around 10% more to hit 2500 to be on the safe side?

rand18m
10-06-2013, 06:43 PM
I weigh about 125lbs right now. Looking to bulk up. Not really concerned with putting on a little fat at this point.

This is what im shooting for:
3000 cals
375g carbs
125g fats
150g protien

I added it up my maintenance came out to be between 2000-2250, but that sounded a little low, so I tried to be a little generous with my numbers.

Try it! If you gain too much fat for your comfort adjust.

You have to pick someplace to start, adjust as you see how your body reacts!

WMLifting
10-06-2013, 06:45 PM
Try it! If you gain too much fat for your comfort adjust.

You have to pick someplace to start, adjust as you see how your body reacts!
This actually isn't bad advice. For the very few, very genetically gifted individuals a +20% surplus still yields neglible fat gains compared to a smaller surplus.

dillard69
10-06-2013, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the replies. So the macros look good? I don't have to little of one or to much of another?

rand18m
10-06-2013, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the replies. So the macros look good? I don't have to little of one or to much of another?

Impossible to determine not knowing your activity.

Just pick a starting point and see how you do. If very active you might need more carbs, you may respond better to less carbs, it's all subjective.

That sounds like a lot of calories for someone your size, but nobody knows what works for you! Pick a datum line, find what works for you!

Lift..Eat..Rest..Repeat!! Keep it simple and consistent and you'll do fine! GL

dillard69
10-06-2013, 07:00 PM
I appreciate the advice. I ran my numbers based on a moderate to high activity level, because what I consider moderate may be high to some and what I consider high, others may see as moderate. So I believe your suggestion about experimenting will be my best bet. 3-4 weeks sound like a reasonable time frame to see if it's working or I need to go up or down? If I monitor my weight and bf closely that is?

rand18m
10-06-2013, 08:45 PM
I appreciate the advice. I ran my numbers based on a moderate to high activity level, because what I consider moderate may be high to some and what I consider high, others may see as moderate. So I believe your suggestion about experimenting will be my best bet. 3-4 weeks sound like a reasonable time frame to see if it's working or I need to go up or down? If I monitor my weight and bf closely that is?

Don't monitor weight too closely. Weigh no more than once a week, do so on the same day at the same time, i.e. when you get up on Sunday (any day) after you have used the bathroom, (pee) and use that as your gauge.