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Miked1978
08-14-2013, 10:35 AM
Which sub .500 team from last year will have the biggest win turnaround this year? Make one pick per conference and at the end of the year we will rep the winner(s). Listed below are the teams with losing records from last year. Just list the team name and # of wins they will have this year.

AFC:
Miami 7-9
Bufflao 6-10
New York Jets 6-10
Cleveland 5-11
Tennesse 6-10
Jacksonville 2-14
San Diego 7-9
Oakland 4-12
Kansas City 2-14


NFC:
Philly 4-12
Detriot 4-12
New Orleans 7-9
Tampa Bay 7-9
Carolina 7-9
St Louis 7-8-1
Arizona 5-11

sups31
08-14-2013, 10:39 AM
Chiefs and Lions.

too easy.

DatHobgoblin
08-14-2013, 10:40 AM
afc
cleveland

nfc
detroit

turk75
08-14-2013, 10:41 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735000-which-nfl-team-is-set-to-make-the-biggest-leap-in-2013


Hope they're right!

LiftLaughLust
08-14-2013, 10:41 AM
AFC - Chiefs
NFC - Bucs

2pacalypto
08-14-2013, 10:42 AM
Chiefs & saints

Jon85
08-14-2013, 10:43 AM
AFC - Kanas City Chiefs 8-8

NFC - Arizona Cardinals 9-7

mlift11
08-14-2013, 10:47 AM
I think both New Orleans and Kansas City should make the playoffs

DatHobgoblin
08-14-2013, 10:50 AM
I think both New Orleans and Kansas City should make the playoffskc can possibly if Andy Reid realizes Charles is his best weapon and that his pass heavy offense will not be very effective with alex smith at the helm. it will be efficient but he has to run charles a minimum of 15 times a game

ShadowBarkley
08-14-2013, 10:51 AM
See sig.

scotyg
08-14-2013, 11:13 AM
Total wins or win differential? If its the latter, KC and Detroit. Former, New Orleans and I guess Miami or KC in the AFC




kc can possibly if Andy Reid realizes Charles is his best weapon and that his pass heavy offense will not be very effective with alex smith at the helm. it will be efficient but he has to run charles a minimum of 15 times a game

Well the good news is Charles can run for 1400 yards on 14 carries a game. He ran for 1100 on 190 total carries. Where the carries disappear the receptions will appear.

PolishPhenom
08-14-2013, 11:19 AM
Kansas City 100%

They will be a playoff team. Quote it. Book it. Take it to the bank.

devin45k
08-14-2013, 11:25 AM
Kansas City

Alex Smith is better than Cassel

Brandon Weeden hasn't proven himself to be a good NFL QB

DatHobgoblin
08-14-2013, 11:27 AM
Kansas City

Alex Smith is better than Cassel

Brandon Weeden hasn't proven himself to be a good NFL QBWeeden started to turn it around towards the end of the season and if t-rich remains healthy throughout the year that will take a lot of pressure off him at the qb position. Couple that with an emerging Josh Gordan and Cameron Jordan and i think you got yourself a contender this year

jonmcd46
08-14-2013, 11:28 AM
titans go 10-6
philly goes 8-8. We talking biggest turnaround from a w/l ratio or percentage or what?

DatHobgoblin
08-14-2013, 11:30 AM
titans go 10-6
philly goes 8-8. We talking biggest turnaround from a w/l ratio or percentage or what?love that titans pick from you. if cj2k can hold it down and Locker continues to progress/britt stays out of trouble,healthy you got yourself a possible contender for the playoffs. concerns about the line though

LikeAMachine
08-14-2013, 11:34 AM
This is a terrible thread, how are you defining success?


Wins above their record last year? Playoffs?

Dan916
08-14-2013, 12:02 PM
Chiefs to win at least 5 with Alex Smith helping them out. But the overall roster obviously needs improvement.

LiftLaughLust
08-14-2013, 12:05 PM
This is a terrible thread, how are you defining success?


Wins above their record last year? Playoffs?
Wins above their record last year

Str8FromNYC
08-14-2013, 12:17 PM
chiefs and saints

giulio313
08-14-2013, 01:44 PM
No one said Miami? wow... I don't think CLE stands a chance Week 1, the fins DL is scary

Realism
08-14-2013, 01:46 PM
I think Miami will go 9-7.

ko5567
08-14-2013, 02:00 PM
Detroit and possibly Carolina

wickedman
08-14-2013, 02:01 PM
Well the stand out choices are KC and DET.

I will however go with CLE and ARZ.

Miked1978
08-14-2013, 08:35 PM
Total wins or win differential? If its the latter, KC and Detroit. Former, New Orleans and I guess Miami or KC in the AFC




total wins


This is a terrible thread, how are you defining success?


Wins above their record last year? Playoffs?

In total wins. If the Chiefs win 9 games they would have a 7 win improvement from last year. I was going to say playoffs but if a team like the Chiefs get 9 wins and barely miss the playoffs, i think that's a bigger turnaround then say the Saints who may win 10 games this year and make the playoffs.

I'm trying to make this as simple as can be.

tsbalr120
08-14-2013, 08:46 PM
Afc: oakland

Nfc: lions

scotyg
08-14-2013, 08:56 PM
Chiefs to win at least 5 with Alex Smith helping them out. But the overall roster obviously needs improvement.
Jc, where? DE, WR2, SILB, and FS are the only positions that could really use an upgrade. Or are you talking overall depth

KC2892
08-14-2013, 09:19 PM
Jc, where? DE, WR2, SILB, and FS are the only positions that could really use an upgrade. Or are you talking overall depth

We definitely need depth. The only thing I see hurting us this year is a injury at a skill position, our 2nd and 3rd stringers are trash.

CBN180
08-14-2013, 10:23 PM
Buffalo and Detroit

idz21
08-15-2013, 12:36 AM
AFC: Miami - That defensive front 7 is fast and athletic as hell. Secondary should be better too. Already had a top 10 defense in points allowed last year. Hopefully with some speed we'll be able to get turnovers. Tannehill hopefully takes a step forward. Wallace gunna Wallace. And Keller is going to have a monster year. He and Tannehill seem to have great chemistry. Lamar Miller is going to surprise some people, he's dynamic as hell. 10-6.

NFC: Tampa - Already had a nasty front 7, and then went and added Revis, Goldston, and Banks. Contract year for Josh Freeman. Doug Martin's a complete back. Talented and physical WR's in Jackson and Williams. Talented and well rounded. 11-5.

iMakeItRain100s
08-15-2013, 12:39 AM
Chiefs and Nawlins. With Payton bake I can see them becoming a 11 win team.

liuzhoudragon
08-15-2013, 12:41 AM
This is a terrible thread, how are you defining success?


Wins above their record last year? Playoffs?

turnaround would imply the biggest difference from last year so the answer is dam near obvoiusly Chiefs and Lions.

Saints/Bucs and some of the 7-9 teams might have better overall records at the end but their turnaround would be smaller.

liuzhoudragon
08-15-2013, 12:42 AM
Chiefs and Nawlins. With Payton bake I can see them becoming a 11 win team.

with a historically bad defense?

idz21
08-15-2013, 01:27 AM
turnaround would imply the biggest difference from last year so the answer is dam near obvoiusly Chiefs and Lions.

Saints/Bucs and some of the 7-9 teams might have better overall records at the end but their turnaround would be smaller.


Have you seen Detroits schedule this year? They could easily go 1-5 in that division. Then you have Dallas, Cinci, Washington, Pitt, Tampa, Baltimore, and NYG. All playoff contenders. Not exactly the easiest road to most impressive turnaround. They could easily end up with 4-7 wins. NFC is wide open.

KC isn't a lock, but probably should be the AFC favorites ITT. 2 wins isn't that hard to turn around from. Even if they win 6, +4 wins might be enough to seal the deal for best turnaround. That said, KC isn't that good. Alex Smith isn't going to have Harbaugh to scheme for him or the 49ers defense to bail him out.

impactplayer616
08-15-2013, 01:32 AM
If we are talking about total number of wins improvement, give me chiefs and lions. If we go from no playoffs to playoffs then give me San Diego and Tampa Bay.

NorrinRadd12
08-15-2013, 04:11 AM
Sports misc gonna sports misc

Alex Smith is one of the worst starters in the league. He went on dat Mark Sanchez time with an elite defense and offensive line. Decent stats because Harbaugh is a wizard.

Reid isn't all that either. You guys are acting like the Chiefs added Aaron Rodgers and Bill Belichick.

Trequartista
08-15-2013, 05:25 AM
Raiders 8-8

Eagles 8-8

joedirt87
08-15-2013, 06:16 AM
New Orleans Katrinas. They pulled out all the stops for league sympathy success, BRB bringing out about 8 cripples at the draft. They are gonna win 11-12 game this season with cheater Payton back coaching. I ain't even mad because I'm gonna try and draft all their cheatin asses in fantasy.

bigfish18q
08-15-2013, 06:50 AM
I really don't see why so many people are saying the Chiefs will turn it around this year? Who exactly have they added that would make this happen? Yes, they have a new head coach but aside from that...?

Onita
08-15-2013, 08:16 AM
I really don't see why so many people are saying the Chiefs will turn it around this year? Who exactly have they added that would make this happen? Yes, they have a new head coach but aside from that...?

A decent QB. Also, he's asking about most wins added. They have a ton of talent, so it shouldn't be hard to increase their 2 wins.

bigfish18q
08-15-2013, 09:00 AM
A decent QB. Also, he's asking about most wins added. They have a ton of talent, so it shouldn't be hard to increase their 2 wins.

Well as adding to their current win total, I definitely think they will. I just don't see them as the biggest turn around. Alex Smith has hardly proved himself, but yeah I could see him as decent. Meh, hope they do well. Nothing at all against the Chiefs, i'm just not all that impressed with them on paper.

Jacket60
08-15-2013, 10:24 AM
Chiefs 8-8

Panthers 11-5

scotyg
08-15-2013, 11:35 AM
Well as adding to their current win total, I definitely think they will. I just don't see them as the biggest turn around. Alex Smith has hardly proved himself, but yeah I could see him as decent. Meh, hope they do well. Nothing at all against the Chiefs, i'm just not all that impressed with them on paper.youll be surprised to how much of a difference "decent" makes after Cassel, Quinn, and Palko.

MCrow
08-15-2013, 11:39 AM
KC and Detroit, by a mile.

Too much talent on those teams to be as bad as they were last year.

DA_MOSS
08-15-2013, 12:10 PM
NFC: Tampa - Already had a nasty front 7, and then went and added Revis, Goldston, and Banks. Contract year for Josh Freeman. Doug Martin's a complete back. Talented and physical WR's in Jackson and Williams. Talented and well rounded. 11-5.


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vash1789
08-15-2013, 12:35 PM
The Blue Jackets. They beefed up their O.

idz21
08-16-2013, 01:33 AM
Might have to change my NFC to Philly. Chip Kelly's offense is nasty. Dat wide open offense, dat speed... They line up and go within 10 seconds. Michael Vick is looking ridiculous (Foles not to bad either). Perfect system fit for him. And Shady is running like he's in the matrix.

bigfish18q
08-16-2013, 06:52 AM
Might have to change my NFC to Philly. Chip Kelly's offense is nasty. Dat wide open offense, dat speed... They line up and go within 10 seconds. Michael Vick is looking ridiculous (Foles not to bad either). Perfect system fit for him. And Shady is running like he's in the matrix.

The problem with a fast offense like that is that you don't give your defense enough time to rest. Better hope their D can keep up with their O, but excited to see them play none the less.

SeanBrah56
08-16-2013, 06:57 AM
kc can possibly if Andy Reid realizes Charles is his best weapon and that his pass heavy offense will not be very effective with alex smith at the helm. it will be efficient but he has to run charles a minimum of 15 times a game

Not sure if srs...

Alex Smith had one of the best completion percentages in the NFL last year before Kaepernick took the helm.

That being said, they need to run to set up the pass...

AFC: Browns. Richardson in his 2nd year and their new coach will pay off in a .500+ season.
NFC: New Orleans. Wanted to say Panthers but I dont think they will be quite there yet.

Onita
08-16-2013, 07:45 AM
Might have to change my NFC to Philly. Chip Kelly's offense is nasty. Dat wide open offense, dat speed... They line up and go within 10 seconds. Michael Vick is looking ridiculous (Foles not to bad either). Perfect system fit for him. And Shady is running like he's in the matrix.

Well, Vick did have his trademark INT. A fast offense will just allow him to turn the ball over that much quicker.

Ralph Wiggum
08-16-2013, 08:22 AM
Well, Vick did have his trademark INT. A fast offense will just allow him to turn the ball over that much quicker.

Trademark int?

It was a hail mary with zero seconds left on the clock.

bigfish18q
08-16-2013, 10:13 AM
May change my pick to the browns. They look to be a lot better this year, I know it's only preseason but I really like what this new coaching staff has done. Almost pains me to say it as a Bengals fan lulz.

Jon85
12-30-2013, 02:00 AM
Looks like it is the Chiefs and Eagles

ShweezyBTFO
12-30-2013, 02:16 AM
with a historically bad defense?

exposed as a potato, as you have been pretty much every time you post.

thexingguard
12-30-2013, 02:18 AM
exposed as a potato, as you have been pretty much every time you post.

In b4 you wish cancer on him.

LiftLaughLust
12-30-2013, 02:20 AM
In b4 you wish cancer on him.
nahh, just a torn acl

ShweezyBTFO
12-30-2013, 02:22 AM
nahh, just a torn acl

this.

impactplayer616
12-30-2013, 03:22 AM
If we are talking about total number of wins improvement, give me chiefs and lions. If we go from no playoffs to playoffs then give me San Diego and Tampa Bay.

50/50 here. Not to shabby.