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EastCoastNiner
08-08-2013, 04:24 PM
Who do you think is the biggest bust since the 2000 NFL draft, not including any QB's?

kethnaab
08-08-2013, 04:28 PM
Who do you think is the biggest bust since the 2000 NFL draft, not including any QB's?

Jamarcus Russell

never really got his footwork down, I saw him as a potential franchise left tackle but he just never could put it together

CobyWan
08-08-2013, 04:30 PM
Homer choice is Aaron Curry. Just off the top of my head.


Everyone said and I believed he was a can't miss stud linebacker. Basically a sure thing.

J2BDifferent
08-08-2013, 04:30 PM
Vernon Gholston
Charles Rogers (Wr lions)

feardafronfz3
08-08-2013, 04:31 PM
Charles Rogers

J2BDifferent
08-08-2013, 04:31 PM
Homer choice is Aaron Curry.


Everyone said and I believed he was a can't miss stud linebacker. Basically a sure thing.

Strong this. Vernon Davis made that guy look like complete dog ****

kethnaab
08-08-2013, 04:32 PM
Robert Gallery, Jason Smith, Johnathan Sullivan, Vernon Gholston, and the bevy of Detroit WRs not named "Calvin Johnson", Troy Williamson is another one, Jamaal Anderson...the list goes on and on

kethnaab
08-08-2013, 04:32 PM
Homer choice is Aaron Curry. Just off the top of my head.


Everyone said and I believed he was a can't miss stud linebacker. Basically a sure thing.

*raises hand* I missed on that one. Still no clue how the hell he or Rolando McClain went downhill so rapidly

Proactive99
08-08-2013, 04:34 PM
Vernon Gholston

Charles Rogers

roko79
08-08-2013, 04:37 PM
Matt Jones
Reggie Williams
Vernon Gholston
Mike Williams
Jamarcus
Rolondo McClain
Dwayne Jarrett

BEASTMODE420
08-08-2013, 04:38 PM
Yea Aaron Curry was supposed to be the next Jullian "the freak" Peterson and more. Never got my hopes up that high on any player drafted by seattle



What a let down :(

ThaWorldIsYours
08-08-2013, 04:39 PM
Aaron Curry was supposed to be the safest pick in the draft, they said.

He's a can't miss prospect, they said.





Courtney Brown is another one, he actually went #1 and only played 6 seasons. Charles Rogers, Dewayne Robertson, Ronnie Brown and Braylon Edwards, Ernie Sims, Glenn Dorsey, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey and Aaron Maybin all come to mind as well.

The_Albatross
08-08-2013, 04:40 PM
Limas Sweed

Gaines Adams

TPisgay
08-08-2013, 04:41 PM
"Weed-smoking" William Green
Courtney Brown
Gerard Warren
Kameron Wimbley
Kellen Winslow II
Jeff Faine
Brady Quinn

Proactive99
08-08-2013, 04:41 PM
Reggie Bush

Big_Pete1000
08-08-2013, 04:42 PM
Robert Gallery, Jason Smith, Johnathan Sullivan, Vernon Gholston, and the bevy of Detroit WRs not named "Calvin Johnson", Troy Williamson is another one, Jamaal Anderson...the list goes on and on
Disagree with Gallery. He has had a solid career once he switched positions to guard. May not have been regarded as the best pick but there are far worse players that belong in the bust category.

roko79
08-08-2013, 04:43 PM
Limas Sweed

Gaines Adams

gains adams died in the prime years of his life, that doesnt fit being a bust

BaronOBeefDerp
08-08-2013, 04:46 PM
Robert Gallery, Jason Smith, Johnathan Sullivan, Vernon Gholston, and the bevy of Detroit WRs not named "Calvin Johnson", Troy Williamson is another one, Jamaal Anderson...the list goes on and on

To add from the top of my head

Mike Williams, Gaines Adams (RIP), Derrick Harvey, Keith Rivers, Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Aaron Maybin

kethnaab
08-08-2013, 04:47 PM
Disagree with Gallery. He has had a solid career once he switched positions to guard. May not have been regarded as the best pick but there are far worse players that belong in the bust category.

well, he had an average career as an OG.

However, when you're drafted 2nd overall to be a franchise LT, even being a "good" OG is a bit of a bust.

Then, to seal the deal, you have to consider he was drafted ahead of Larry Fitzgerald, Philip Rivers, Big Ben, Sean Taylor, and Vince Wilfork, among others (off the top of my head)

The_Albatross
08-08-2013, 04:48 PM
gains adams died in the prime years of his life, that doesnt fit being a bust

he wasn't exactly on the track to living up to expectations...

CripsandBloods
08-08-2013, 04:49 PM
Reggie Bush

EvilChicken
08-08-2013, 04:52 PM
WR braylon edwards also Ginn jr

TTexasTT
08-08-2013, 04:53 PM
Taylor Mays?

I was so pissed when Dallas didnt make any moves to get him in the draft. Now Im quite pleased.

Heaney
08-08-2013, 04:53 PM
Vernon Gholston

Charles Rogers

Yeah, winners here.

IShootCMen
08-08-2013, 04:54 PM
Maurice Clarett

ItsWhatIDo
08-08-2013, 04:58 PM
Tedd Ginn Jr.
Glenn Dorsey
Jason Smith
Kellen Winslow

Brbsquattin
08-08-2013, 04:59 PM
Jamarcus Russell

never really got his footwork down, I saw him as a potential franchise left tackle but he just never could put it together

Got tickets to the thanksgiving game in Baltimore u mad?

2pacalypto
08-08-2013, 05:00 PM
aaron maybin

reverse79
08-08-2013, 05:01 PM
laurence maroney
mark ingram (so far...dont see getting better)

Heaney
08-08-2013, 05:05 PM
laurence maroney
mark ingram (so far...dont see getting better)

I remember going to a UM vs Minny game when Maroney was a Senior. Every time he touched the ball he was absolutely electric, I def thought he was going to be a good NFL back. He got hurt in the game but I think he ended with around 100yds and terrorized Michigan's D

mcm08n
08-08-2013, 05:05 PM
Aaron Curry was supposed to be the safest pick in the draft, they said.

He's a can't miss prospect, they said.





Courtney Brown is another one, he actually went #1 and only played 6 seasons. Charles Rogers, Dewayne Robertson, Ronnie Brown and Braylon Edwards, Ernie Sims, Glenn Dorsey, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey and Aaron Maybin all come to mind as well.

Ernie Sims hasn't exactly been great but is still in a starting lineup 7 years after being drafted. Not sure if quite bust status.

CurryTech777
08-08-2013, 05:16 PM
Taylor Mays?

I was so pissed when Dallas didnt make any moves to get him in the draft. Now Im quite pleased.

hes not a bust for where he was drafted. if he went first round then he would have been. he still has a job (bengals). he was lulzy on hard knocks

Madvillainy
08-08-2013, 05:23 PM
i was most surprised by aaron curry. he looked like he at least had a high floor if he didn't live up to his potential.

cncman
08-08-2013, 05:36 PM
No Vince Young? Disappointed.

he's not a qb

evansanity
08-08-2013, 05:37 PM
Alex smith
mike hart

impactplayer616
08-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Andy Katzenmoyer (drafted in 99) first season was 2000. Granted he got injured he was already on his way to be a bust, especially considering how amazing he was as a college player.

bigcc
08-08-2013, 07:46 PM
Homer choice is Aaron Curry. Just off the top of my head.


Everyone said and I believed he was a can't miss stud linebacker. Basically a sure thing.

came in to say this... thought he was the next lance briggs as a 4-3 OLB

bigcc
08-08-2013, 07:50 PM
Reggie Williams--- 2300/18 with the jags qb's... not a terrible bust
Rolondo McClain-- tbh I haven't fully written him off yet
Dwayne Jarrett mid 2nd round pick


wouldnt include these 3 in the biggest busts

bigcc
08-08-2013, 07:52 PM
Robert Gallery, Jason Smith, Johnathan Sullivan, Vernon Gholston, and the bevy of Detroit WRs not named "Calvin Johnson", Troy Williamson is another one, Jamaal Anderson...the list goes on and on

gallery started 139 games.... granted he's still a bust considering expectations but I think it's a bit far to mention him here

iamgenus
08-08-2013, 07:56 PM
Has to be Vernon Gholston imo.

Dude fuking did NOTHING for the Jets. Even the other busts at least had some kind of impact.

In 3 years with the team he has less than 20 tackles and 0 sacks....

CCAurora
08-08-2013, 08:06 PM
Has to be Vernon Gholston imo.

Dude fuking did NOTHING for the Jets. Even the other busts at least had some kind of impact.

In 3 years with the team he has less than 20 tackles and 0 sacks....

I used to love seeing the Jets switch him to different positions just to try and save face

iMakeItRain100s
08-08-2013, 08:19 PM
Troy Williamson lol

beepbeep
08-08-2013, 08:21 PM
Gallery doesn't belong on the same level as most of the other players mentioned here. He was a colossal disappointment as a tackle but was a pretty solid guard for a few years until injuries wrecked him.

I'd vote for Gholston, who was drafted as a pass rusher and registered a whopping 0 sacks, 0 INTs, 0 FFs and 0 FRs in his 42 game career. There was a clause in his contract that would've paid trigger a $9 million bonus if he recorded a sack, fumble recovery or INT. He never got it.

krogtaar
08-08-2013, 09:14 PM
vernon gholston. he was a beast in college, played well against jake long, who was the best LT in college at the time, elite athleticism, and jets played him out of position and he couldn't do anything

brb_ballin
08-08-2013, 09:17 PM
I thought Charles Rogers was the real deal.


couldn't believe he was so awful in the pros.

brb_ballin
08-08-2013, 09:23 PM
laurence maroney
mark ingram (so far...dont see getting better)


Maroney had some nice seasons with New England.. wouldn't put him near the bust level some of these guys have been.


and Ingram has 2 seasons in a pass happy offense.. hardly a bust at this point.

cbad7676
08-08-2013, 11:14 PM
Has to be Vernon Gholston imo.

Dude fuking did NOTHING for the Jets. Even the other busts at least had some kind of impact.

In 3 years with the team he has less than 20 tackles and 0 sacks....

he still doesn't have a sack in the NFL right?

jonmcd46
08-08-2013, 11:20 PM
Former bears guard, 1st rounder in 2011 traded to the bucs for like a 6th round pick this year. Cannot remember his name but to be drafted that high and be traded by a team desperate for good O-lineman says a lot. Gabe Carimi finally came to me

Ares2599
08-09-2013, 12:02 AM
Jason Smith. Absolutely useless offensive tackle that's started 26 games in four years and is now on his third team.

Just a miserable career for a #2 pick.

Sb1995
08-09-2013, 12:17 AM
wtf is happening with Nick Fairley. Used to be a huge fan when him and Cam lit it up at Auburn

dtbrehm
08-09-2013, 02:30 AM
Biased pick:
jkNDZu72y4Y

iamgenus
08-09-2013, 06:21 AM
I thought Charles Rogers was the real deal.


couldn't believe he was so awful in the pros.

Charles Rogers wasn't terrible in the pros. Certainly not what people expected but IIRC his biggest issues in the pros were the shoulder injuries and the fact he couldn't stop smoking weed.


he still doesn't have a sack in the NFL right?
Still at the big 0.0 and likely to stay there


wtf is happening with Nick Fairley. Used to be a huge fan when him and Cam lit it up at Auburn

Ahmm...nothing? He played well last season. His rookie season I think he was still dealing with a foot injury so he didn't make a huge impact.

nastynate87
08-09-2013, 06:37 AM
Dewayne Robertson
Jerome McDougal
Ryan Sims
Freddie Mitchell
David Terrell

Jedi34
08-09-2013, 06:54 AM
Reggie Bush - One of the most hyped up college football player and was suppose to be a game changer. He was basically given the ball and opportunity to do whatever he wants in New Orleans, but never produced.

DatBrahmabull
08-09-2013, 08:36 AM
Reggie Bush has to be up there

P51
08-09-2013, 09:04 AM
Has to be Vernon Gholston imo.

Dude fuking did NOTHING for the Jets. Even the other busts at least had some kind of impact.

In 3 years with the team he has less than 20 tackles and 0 sacks....I don't even understand what happened to him. Dude ran over people in college. Gets to the NFL and does absolutely nothing. He didn't even go from great to average, he went straight to garbage.

iamgenus
08-09-2013, 09:28 AM
I don't even understand what happened to him. Dude ran over people in college. Gets to the NFL and does absolutely nothing. He didn't even go from great to average, he went straight to garbage.

Yeah definitely one of the worst flops that I can recall given the expectations and total lack of production. You'd figure he could at least do something as a pass rush specialist where you literally just forget all else and go after the QB. Some QBs just walk into sacks. Even guys like Jamal Reynolds, Derrick Harvey, Jamaal Anderson and Aaron Maybin ended up getting sacks.

Just looked it up...since 1980 there has only been one other 1st round DE who did not register a career sack and that was Shawn Knight who was the 11th pick by the Saints in 87.

So yeah...that dude is in some RARE fukin category.

nastynate87
08-09-2013, 09:37 AM
A scout talking about Gholston said something to the effect of, "When you watch his film, he's a fringe 1st rounder. When you look at his measurables, he's a solid first. When you see him with his shirt off, he's a top 5 pick."

mojo85
08-09-2013, 09:41 AM
Robert Gallery coming out was supposed to be a LT you could immediately put on the field and forget about for the next 10 years. He was supposed to be the next Jonathan Ogden.

Homer pick but AJ Hawk. He has a career but no ones better at making a tackle 7 yards down field, not the kind you want at the #5 spot.

Michael Huff
Jimmy Kennedy
Rashawn Woods
Boss Baily
Marcus Tubbs
Ahmad Carroll

TimDF
08-09-2013, 09:44 AM
aaron maybin

This x 1000.

Alpha58
08-09-2013, 09:45 AM
Anyone the raiders drafted in the first 2 rounds


Darius Heyward Bay LOL

Azzurri
08-09-2013, 09:46 AM
Andy Katzenmoyer (drafted in 99) first season was 2000. Granted he got injured he was already on his way to be a bust, especially considering how amazing he was as a college player.

He got off the cell tech.

MURedHawk235
08-09-2013, 10:49 AM
Has to be Vernon Gholston imo.

Dude fuking did NOTHING for the Jets. Even the other busts at least had some kind of impact.

In 3 years with the team he has less than 20 tackles and 0 sacks....

lol I just checked his history

signed by bears July 29, 2011 Waived a month later

signed by rams August 22nd 2012, Waived 9 days later.

laxster
08-09-2013, 11:42 AM
Larry English (chargers)

First round pick is now a back up, never did anything significant on the field

nastynate87
08-09-2013, 11:47 AM
Has anyone mentioned Ted Ginn Jr.? Picked 9th overall I believe

iamgenus
08-09-2013, 11:49 AM
Seems like people are just posting their recent busts....but I'd love to see someone make a serious case for anyone other than Gholston.

zmcdole
08-09-2013, 11:53 AM
I saw some people say Reggie Bush. I wouldn't call him a bust. He's made some plays during his career. He's accumulated 4,162 yards rushing with 29 TDs and a 4.3 ypc avg, 2730 yards receiving with 15 TDs, and has 4 punt returns for TDs. His stats aren't amazing, but he makes plays and any team would be happy with his services even if he isn't touching the ball 30 times a game.

He's just not as dominant in the pros as he was in college.

TheRejuvenated
08-09-2013, 12:14 PM
Has anyone mentioned Ted Ginn Jr.? Picked 9th overall I believe

Yeah but that was a fairly weak draft wasn't it? I remember even back then they said he wasn't horribly great, just had speed.


I'd definitely say Aaron Curry, everyone said he was a definite thing, and I thought so too, then he fell off the face of the earth

Gholston is from ohio state, what do you expect ;)



No Vince Young? Disappointed.

he's not a qb

neither is tim tebow, nobody mentioned him ;D lol.



and actually I will admit when Leinart went to the Cardinals at #10 I thought he'd be an average QB and do ok for them after Warner, oops

thegenerel
08-09-2013, 12:16 PM
Seems like people are just posting their recent busts....but I'd love to see someone make a serious case for anyone other than Gholston.

LaVar Arrington, Courtney Brown, Peter Warrick, Glenn Dorsey

iamgenus
08-09-2013, 12:19 PM
LaVar Arrington, Courtney Brown

Each guy still played well for their team in short spurts. Didn't live up to the lofty expectations but their teams still got SOMETHING out of them. Hell Lavar was a pro bowler for the skins one year iirc.

mojo85
08-09-2013, 12:26 PM
LaVar Arrington, Courtney Brown, Peter Warrick, Glenn Dorsey

LaVar was productive (just couldn't understand a scheme other then "run to ball") and hit like a truck but the biggest thing about Arrington was that he never signed with the union so he was &#@%ing number 56 in my Madden games cause they couldnt use his name...

Wasn't Courtney Brown productive for a year or 2 on the Broncos? Still a bust but not Gholston status

TheRejuvenated
08-09-2013, 12:29 PM
actually, reggie bush should be up there too, tbh. People were stunned he wasn't the #1 pick, and people thought he'd be good, now he's pretty much average at best, and mostly for receiving, not rushing

Clevelander12
08-09-2013, 12:49 PM
"Im Charles Rogers, I had 68 catches and 13 touchdowns"

dougefresh93
08-09-2013, 04:16 PM
49ers cut AJ Jenkins like they should.... He will go down as a huge bust.

PatrickBateman1
08-09-2013, 04:26 PM
lol @ all these Reggie Bush comments. Apparently quite a few people don't know what the definition of bust is. Sure he hasn't even come close to living up to expectations, but he has 4,200 yards in the NFL and is still a very relevant player.

A bust is someone who basically accomplishes NOTHING.

solidus2k3
08-09-2013, 05:27 PM
so many feels itt

TheBladeMike
08-09-2013, 05:29 PM
Reggie Bush


how? he was a huge weapon for the saints , you bought into the hype triain and expected him to put up 1500 yards and 1000 receiving ?

Austanian
08-09-2013, 05:41 PM
49ers cut AJ Jenkins like they should.... He will go down as a huge bust.

Winner

Madvillainy
08-09-2013, 05:45 PM
bush isn't a bust but he's definitely up there for biggest disappointment. he was the most hyped non-QB since 2000 and is still probably in the top 3 with vick and luck if you do consider QBs as well.

iamgenus
08-09-2013, 05:50 PM
49ers cut AJ Jenkins like they should.... He will go down as a huge bust.


Winner

Oh look it's the "this guy is a bust after 1 season" crew

feardafronfz3
08-09-2013, 07:55 PM
My first AIM screen name was "Harrington2Rogers" rofl

FML

EastCoastNiner
08-09-2013, 08:10 PM
LaVar Arrington, Courtney Brown, Peter Warrick, Glenn Dorsey

A three time All-Pro whose career ended because of injuries and not a lack of skill and performance is definitely a bust. I think you may be having similar concussion symptoms to Crosby right now. (semisrs).


actually, reggie bush should be up there too, tbh. People were stunned he wasn't the #1 pick, and people thought he'd be good, now he's pretty much average at best, and mostly for receiving, not rushing

Anyone who wasn't a complete potato (which there aren't many of) knew that Bush should not have gone #1 overall. He hasn't been a bust, and he could have a great season this year. However, not once did I ever consider Bush worthy of the #1 overall pick. People buy way too much into college hype.


My first AIM screen name was "Harrington2Rogers" rofl

FML

http://www.snarksquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MauryLaughing.gif

OutWorkedByNo1
08-09-2013, 08:22 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img6/4218/1pmr.jpg

RJC24
08-09-2013, 08:24 PM
I say Robert gallery, and it's not even close.

People were saying future pro bowler, HOFer, best lineman coming into the NFL in a decade, etc...

CobyWan
08-09-2013, 08:28 PM
Anyone who wasn't a complete potato (which there aren't many of) knew that Bush should not have gone #1 overall.


Oh it's so easy to make these claims in hindsight. Leading up to the draft he was the consensus number one pick for a reason.


That's like saying anyone who wasn't a complete potato knew Greg Oden shouldn't have gone number one overall.

JesuitGrind
08-09-2013, 08:34 PM
myron "Rhode Scholar" Rolle

jk he is in med school

EastCoastNiner
08-09-2013, 08:38 PM
Oh it's so easy to make these claims in hindsight. Leading up to the draft he was the consensus number one pick for a reason.


That's like saying anyone who wasn't a complete potato knew Greg Oden shouldn't have gone number one overall.

No, they're not similar at all......not even close.

Yes, Bush was the #1 for the vast majority of potatoes that couldn't see that he wouldn't translate to the NFL the same way a HB like Peterson would. I was not the least bit shocked that the Texans went for a defensive anchor, especially considering teams take pass-rushers high nowadays.

Oden has been injured his entire career. His body (if healthy) would translate well to the NBA. When he's played, he's been a defensive anchor. Bush was far and away they most hyped prospect in the past ten years, excluding QB's. However, I've always been surprised how many people were so high on him.

I'm not a Luck fan either, so this isn't a case of hindsight is 20/20.

CobyWan
08-09-2013, 08:43 PM
No, they're not similar at all......not even close.


Yes they are similar because you are trying to prop yourself as smarter than all the other "potatoes" because you now have all information after everything has played out.


After reading all your posts though nobody is going to take you seriously no matter how high you try to ride your horse.

EastCoastNiner
08-09-2013, 08:48 PM
Yes they are similar because you are trying to prop yourself as smarter than all the other "potatoes" because you now have all information after everything has played out.


After reading all your posts though nobody is going to take you seriously no matter how high you try to ride your horse.

Besides the #2 overall picks in each draft having better careers thus far, explain the similarities.

1. Bush was dominant in college, but there were concerns about his game translating to the NFL. He's had a relatively healthy career so far, but hasn't performed up to #1 overall expectations due to his play.

2. Oden was the consensus #1 overall pick, with a little less hype than Bush. He has been injured which is why he hasn't performed. When he's played, he's been very good. It's a mere coincidence that a player like Durant was in that same draft class behind him.

There is nothing similar between the two besides them both being #1 overall picks.

And, strong edit of my post and not including everything. As I said, I'm not a big Luck fan either, and wasn't at the draft. I would have taken Oden #1 overall, but would not have taken Bush #1 overall. You need to learn the difference between a career hindered by injuries and a career that has not lived up to the hype of many people due to the actual play. You really have no clue what you're talking about. (srs).

And, I've already said Bush isn't a bust. He's performed fine, and could have a big year this season. However, I do not believe he was ever worthy of a #1 overall selection.

Edit: Going back to the 2000 draft, there's only three #1 overall selections I would have disagreed with at the time

-Bush
-Russel
-Luck

Dan O Mac
08-10-2013, 11:43 AM
Let's discuss WHY these players busted. Injuries? Lack of a motor?

james21561
08-10-2013, 12:14 PM
Majority of whatever Alex Smiths draft class was