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SompletelyCober
08-08-2013, 03:20 PM
Of the big 4 sports in North America, the NFL has, by far, the strictest rules in regards to eligibility and age.

The NHL and MLB allow a player to be drafted at age 18. The NBA has recently adopted the 1 year removed from high school rule even though such superstars as LeBron, Kobe, Garnett, McGrady etc. came straight out of high school. Although LeBron is an outlier and was able to contribute a great deal right out of high school, while most others needed time to mature.


Then we have the NFL. Players must be 3 years removed from high school to play pro ball. This means that a guy like Clowney is needlessly forced to play in college for several years and risk injury when he would clearly be the #1 overall pick if he came out a year or two "early."


By the same token, some will argue that due to the physical nature of the sport, these young men are well served by staying in school and maturing both mentally and physically before being thrown to the lions in the NFL.

The US courts have upheld this 3 year rule as legal when it has been challenged by players who wanted to leave early.


What say you, sports misc?

J2BDifferent
08-08-2013, 03:21 PM
No. They will die.

|progress|
08-08-2013, 03:26 PM
No, they aren't physically ready.

Masstastic
08-08-2013, 03:31 PM
No.

NFL teams don't have time to wait on 18 or 19 year olds to develop.

BEASTMODE420
08-08-2013, 03:33 PM
No. They will die.


No, they aren't physically ready.

It's not bball, this is a mens game. They would die.

DasWunderBrah
08-08-2013, 03:41 PM
No. They will die.

this.

WanaBswole
08-08-2013, 03:45 PM
No, they aren't physically ready.

Are you kidding? Have you seen some of the freak athletes playing high school ball now? There are high school running backs that already bench 300+. There are running backs past and present in the NFL that just bench that much. If the kid is ready let him play.....

Maybe the white boys need to wait that long but those genetic freak black boys don't need to wait....

SompletelyCober
08-08-2013, 03:46 PM
You guys are right.

It's a good thing guys like this don't come out after a year, otherwise they'd probably die on the field with their frail ass bodies.


http://heismanpundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Jadeveon-Clowney-South-Carolina-e1353964269856.jpg

http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/2002/draft/img22247580.jpg





If only they waited until they were strong enough to play with the real men in the NFL and could take a hit like the all time greats who were sensible enough to realize they needed those three years to prepare themselves.



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PjPA0yEYTk0/SaBcm0ATMkI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/H84wKUr32jE/s400/tom_brady_nfl_draft_combine_2000.jpg

ThaWorldIsYours
08-08-2013, 03:49 PM
There are only a handful of players who were ever physically ready to play in the NFL out of high school (Adrian Peterson comes to mind) but those players were not mentally ready.

Players make so much progress from high school to the pros as far as knowledge of the game.

If players were allowed to enter the draft at 18 I honestly don't think more than 1 or 2 would get drafted each year and those guys would probably go in round 6 and 7, NFL teams don't have time to draft a guy and then develop him to the point that he should have been getting developed in college. The NFL doesn't want to play millions of dollars to a player for his developmental years when they can let the collegiate programs develop these players at no cost to them and then draft them when they're polished and ready.


Now, as far as drafting players after their freshman or sophomore years, that's a different story.

ko5567
08-08-2013, 03:52 PM
You guys are right.

It's a good thing guys like this don't come out after a year, otherwise they'd probably die on the field with their frail ass bodies.


[img]http://heismanpundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Jadeveon-Clowney-South-Carolina-e1353964269856.jpg[img]

[img]http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/2002/draft/img22247580.jpg[img]





If only they waited until they were strong enough to play with the real men in the NFL and could take a hit like the all time greats who were sensible enough to realize they needed those three years to prepare themselves.



[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PjPA0yEYTk0/SaBcm0ATMkI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/H84wKUr32jE/s400/tom_brady_nfl_draft_combine_2000.jpg[img]

lol there are exceptions...in the past decade the only 2 who have an argument of being able to play straight out of hs is clowney and adrian peterson

Gmr97
08-08-2013, 03:54 PM
No player is ready to go from high school to the nfl even after their first year in college and after 2 years their is at best 10 players who have the tools to leave then

SompletelyCober
08-08-2013, 03:56 PM
There are only a handful of players who were ever physically ready to play in the NFL out of high school (Adrian Peterson comes to mind) but those players were not mentally ready.

Players make so much progress from high school to the pros as far as knowledge of the game.

If players were allowed to enter the draft at 18 I honestly don't think more than 1 or 2 would get drafted each year and those guys would probably go in round 6 and 7, NFL teams don't have time to draft a guy and then develop him to the point that he should have been getting developed in college. The NFL doesn't want to play millions of dollars to a player for his developmental years when they can let the collegiate programs develop these players at no cost to them and then draft them when they're polished and ready.


Now, as far as drafting players after their freshman or sophomore years, that's a different story.

I think 1 year makes sense. High school is fair as well if the guy is that talented.

The worst part has been highlighted by the Clowney situation. You have a guy who could be the #1 pick and be making millions to support his family and better his life, but he's forced to keep playing in college for "free."

The nature of football makes it a very real possibility that a guy like this can get injured and hurt his career, or even end it, costing him millions.


This isn't just about the greatest player in college either. There are plenty of good players who would leave college after one or two years to earn a paycheck. Why should they be forced to work for free?

bezarker
08-08-2013, 04:00 PM
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GrecoRoman
08-08-2013, 04:09 PM
Sounds like a great like a great idea to allow any 18 year old that feels he's ready to decide to go from varsity HS football to the NFL. There is very little difference between the speed and overall level of competition. NFL teams will have no problem paying kids to develop and not contribute immediately.

Future24
08-08-2013, 04:13 PM
They should ditch the entire college sports system. Start a youth system like world football has where each team has their own academies and teams. Develop their own players and you can recruit at any fuking age.

|progress|
08-08-2013, 04:16 PM
Are you kidding? Have you seen some of the freak athletes playing high school ball now? There are high school running backs that already bench 300+. There are running backs past and present in the NFL that just bench that much. If the kid is ready let him play.....

Maybe the white boys need to wait that long but those genetic freak black boys don't need to wait....No offense bro, but I played D1 ball for a top 25 school. You are not physically ready coming out of high school to play at the NFL level. Just because someone benches over 300 lbs doesn't mean you're physically ready. Hell, I was benching 405 and squatting 600 going into my Senior year of high school. There may be 1 or 2 players that could be considered for it because of speed and that's only at the DB/WR positions, but they couldn't even compete at the mental and physical skills level of the game that is developed in college. There is absolutely zero chance any linemen/LB/RB/TE's would be even remotely close to being physically ready for the jump from HS to the NFL.

The speed and complexity between HS and college is light years difference, and it's the same between college and the NFL. It's just not happening.

GrecoRoman
08-08-2013, 04:17 PM
I think 1 year makes sense. High school is fair as well if the guy is that talented.
A lot of NFL teams don't like to touch guys in the 1st round because they played in a poor conference. You think they would jump at the chance to draft an 18 year old who dominated other 18 year olds?
The worst part has been highlighted by the Clowney situation. You have a guy who could be the #1 pick and be making millions to support his family and better his life, but he's forced to keep playing in college for "free."
he isn't forced to do anything, if he wanted to be a pussy and protect his investment then he could have sat out. Conversely this would show NFL teams that he's truly about his money and not about the game of football.
The nature of football makes it a very real possibility that a guy like this can get injured and hurt his career, or even end it, costing him millions.
and theres an even greater likely hood of this happening when playing against the best players in the world. Say he gets drafted and gets destroyed in his first training camp. NFL teams would love that!
This isn't just about the greatest player in college either. There are plenty of good players who would leave college after one or two years to earn a paycheck. Why should they be forced to work for free?

Again they aren't forced to do anything.

|progress|
08-08-2013, 04:18 PM
Sounds like a great like a great idea to allow any 18 year old that feels he's ready to decide to go from varsity HS football to the NFL. There is very little difference between the speed and overall level of competition. NFL teams will have no problem paying kids to develop and not contribute immediately.NFL teams have a huge problem paying someone to develop. They want guys that are ready to contribute immediately.

EastCoastNiner
08-08-2013, 04:20 PM
No offense bro, but I played D1 ball for a top 25 school. You are not physically ready coming out of high school to play at the NFL level. Just because someone benches over 300 lbs doesn't mean you're physically ready. Hell, I was benching 405 and squatting 600 going into my Senior year of high school. There may be 1 or 2 players that could be considered for it because of speed and that's only at the DB/WR positions, but they couldn't even compete at the mental and physical skills level of the game that is developed in college. There is absolutely zero chance any linemen/LB/RB/TE's would be even remotely close to being physically ready for the jump from HS to the NFL.

The speed and complexity between HS and college is light years difference, and it's the same between college and the NFL. It's just not happening.

Show me your credentials.

roko79
08-08-2013, 04:22 PM
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Amobi Okoye is a Nigerian-American defensive tackle of American football who is currently a free agent. He was drafted by the Houston Texans tenth overall in the 2007 NFL Draft. He played college football at Louisville.

Okoye started college at 16, played 4 years, and drafted in the NFL as a 19 year old. Physically he's on another level in how early he matured.

GrecoRoman
08-08-2013, 04:22 PM
NFL teams have a huge problem paying someone to develop. They want guys that are ready to contribute immediately.

not sheriff srs

andrew28
08-08-2013, 04:43 PM
adrian peterson probably could've entered the nfl as a toddler and been successful

Madvillainy
08-08-2013, 05:17 PM
there are some rare exceptions that could do it but not enough to warrant making the rule change or even making some exceptions to let some of them play.

CyberSheriff
08-08-2013, 05:33 PM
This is the kind of chit that ruins college basketball don't bring it to CFB too.