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Technophyle
06-24-2013, 10:12 AM
The best on clay but above average on other surfaces.

Addthefun123123
06-24-2013, 10:13 AM
they say its more difficult to generate topspin and speed on clay, so his power becomes a difference maker

431selorps
06-24-2013, 10:15 AM
they say its more difficult to generate topspin and speed on clay, so his power becomes a difference maker

It's easier to generate spin on clay...the ball usually bounces higher on clay than any other surface. This gives Nadal, who usually hits with tons of topspin anyway, a huge advantage over his opponents.

judgefudge
06-24-2013, 10:22 AM
clay is slow and Nadal is best ever at moving/sliding on it so it's nearly impossible to get him off balance/hit winners for a full match against him there. on other surfaces you don't get the same luxury as ball moves through the court and you are punished more for standing far behind the baseline

add to this his main tactics are to hit heavy spin consistently into a right hander's backhand to open the court which is extremely effective on clay which takes topspin and kicks it up even higher and this is nearly impossible to attack for 99% of players, especially those with 1 handed backhands. on other surfaces his forehand if not on fire will sit up in the strike zone of most players allowing them to attack

lastly serves become less of a factor since clay slows them down after the bounce, so he can stand 20ft behind the baseline and return them like they're normal groundstrokes and start the point off neutral which on clay is in his advantage. his return of serve as an individual shot isn't great so big servers rush him and put him on the back foot immediately on other surfaces.

his talent is high enough and surfaces slowed enough that he can win on other surfaces too but on clay it takes perfection to beat him while elsewhere it can often just be a big hitter having a good day

puddlestheduck
06-24-2013, 10:51 AM
The best on clay but above average on other surfaces.

Brb, career golden slam winner is only "above average" on anything but his best surface...

Loswaldo
06-24-2013, 11:02 AM
The best on clay but above average on other surfaces.

Wish I was average like Nadal.

ShweezyBTFO
06-24-2013, 12:49 PM
Wish I was average like Nadal.


so you could lose in the first round of wimbledon?

DeetsandWatsons
06-24-2013, 12:55 PM
so you could lose in the first round of wimbledon?

you sir are a moron. Nadal is amazing on all surfaces, he just runs train on Clay. Judgefudge explained all that is needed to know.

ShweezyBTFO
06-24-2013, 01:04 PM
you sir are a moron. Nadal is amazing on all surfaces, he just runs train on Clay. Judgefudge explained all that is needed to know.

and you sir are a moron if you think Nadal can ever compete on hard court at a top level again. He's already publicly complaining about the hard court season because of his brittle knees.

BostonRockets
06-24-2013, 01:06 PM
pisses me off how this kent keeps beating federer lmao

gouscfootball
06-24-2013, 01:13 PM
pisses me off how this kent keeps beating federer lmao

It's 15-2 on clay to Nadal and 8-7 off clay to Federer. The H2H is vastly skewed because Fed always made clay finals while Nadal lost early on fast courts during their primes. If they met more in the second half of the season the H2H would be far more even. It is a horrible match up issue for Fed though. All of his weaknesses are Nadal's strengths and Nadal's game counters Fed's strengths perfectly (CC slice neutralized by the FH, shaky BH torn apart by FH, inside out FH countered by DTL loopy FH, weak ad side BH return (This is probably the most important one as most important points are played on the ad side thus giving Rafa an immediate advantage)).

jaySWAG
06-24-2013, 01:35 PM
nadal is a great effort/energy player who feeds off long rallies and wears down his opponents

he doesnt get that on fast courts like Wimbledon

TBProdigy
06-24-2013, 01:49 PM
Did noone else put money on evens for above 9.5 games in any of the sets? Printing money