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kovalchuk71
05-21-2013, 07:19 PM
Hello everyone. I am currently 5'7 165 lbs with 17% BF. I am honestly looking to only gain ~10-15 lbs max, but obviously want to gain muscle. With 500 calories added to my maintenance, I am at 3200-3300. What is a good rule of thumb regarding how much weight you want to ideally gain during a bulk before you cut back down? Do I need to get into the 185-190 lb range and then cut down to the desired 170-175 and maintain? That is what I am most confused about. Thanks.

paulzee
05-21-2013, 07:23 PM
Usually you'd cut to 10% bf or so before bulking up, also 500 calories will result in a dirty bulk and excess fat, opt for a 10% caloric increase over your maintenance and if you don't go up in weight for 2 weeks increase calories slightly. Remember it's easier to lose fat then it is to build muslce.

InItForFitness
05-21-2013, 07:26 PM
Hello everyone. I am currently 5'7 165 lbs with 17% BF. I am honestly looking to only gain ~10-15 lbs max, but obviously want to gain muscle. With 500 calories added to my maintenance, I am at 3200-3300. What is a good rule of thumb regarding how much weight you want to ideally gain during a bulk before you cut back down? Do I need to get into the 185-190 lb range and then cut down to the desired 170-175 and maintain? That is what I am most confused about. Thanks.
Why did you add 500?
Did you even do proper calculations to determine your TDEE/Macros and even so 500 additional calories added would be well over the additional 10% that you need to add for desired results.
Example = if 3200 calories is 500 above maintenance than that means you maintain at 2700, if you take 10% (270 calories), the amount needed for growth, than you should be in taking 2970 calls, round up to 300 if you want.
Either way, your #'s look well off, please recalculate

kovalchuk71
05-21-2013, 07:32 PM
Why did you add 500?
Did you even do proper calculations to determine your TDEE/Macros and even so 500 additional calories added would be well over the additional 10% that you need to add for desired results.
Example = if 3200 calories is 500 above maintenance than that means you maintain at 2700, if you take 10% (270 calories), the amount needed for growth, than you should be in taking 2970 calls, round up to 300 if you want.
Either way, your #'s look well off, please recalculate

Thank you for the help. Like I said, I am new to proper nutrition calories, so that is very good to know. So I would go with 3000 calories. Looking at a maintenance calorie calculator I used (I know its not 100% accurate) I am getting 2700 (I exercise already). I need something to start with obviously before I go trial and error. But back to my original question, how much weight to you want to gain before cutting down to your desired weight?

InItForFitness
05-21-2013, 07:38 PM
Thank you for the help. Like I said, I am new to proper nutrition calories, so that is very good to know. So I would go with 3000 calories. Looking at a maintenance calorie calculator I used (I know its not 100% accurate) I am getting 2700 (I exercise already). I need something to start with obviously before I go trial and error. But back to my original question, how much weight to you want to gain before cutting down to your desired weight?

Until your comfortable. Keep bulking until you feel you're where you wanna be muscle mass wise and than go on your cut.