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Neg_Train
01-18-2013, 12:45 PM
How does this work? Is it because of hard work that helped him become an Elite QB?

How does a medicore QB(according to scouts at the time) become elite?

And how does an Elite QB in college become medicore/terrible in NFL?


WTF?

GPx
01-18-2013, 12:47 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/660/101/tom_brady_combine_original.jpg?1356380330

It was only a matter of time before it was posted.

thegenerel
01-18-2013, 12:48 PM
OP's post is giving me a brain tumor.

sandpapergooch
01-18-2013, 12:48 PM
Intangibles

JRRBadBoy4Life
01-18-2013, 12:48 PM
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Hardcore_D00d
01-18-2013, 12:55 PM
slow as fuk. no mobility. weak arm at the time. they didnt measure his heart.

JBhaverhill
01-18-2013, 12:59 PM
slow as fuk. no mobility. weak arm at the time. they didnt measure his heart.

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Amaso
01-18-2013, 01:05 PM
How does this work? Is it because of hard work that helped him become an Elite QB? He was just another decent pocket passer QB who had the build/height to be potentially a starter in the NFL. How he became elite? Great offensive system, great O-line, great defenses, GOAT coach

How does a medicore QB(according to scouts at the time) become elite? Look above, he had all the physical abilities to have a good career in the NFL

And how does an Elite QB in college become medicore/terrible in NFL? Poor intangibles, bad work ethic, athleticism doesn't take them as far, injuries, bad teams


WTF?

There ya go OP

ruckin
01-18-2013, 01:07 PM
b/c he's a phaggot

HTownOlajuwon
01-18-2013, 01:09 PM
He improved his QB skill when he went to the NFL such as arm strength, mobility, etc. but none of them were capable of measuring his intangibles which is why he faltered in the NFL draft.

leafs43
01-18-2013, 01:14 PM
System QB.


The Patriots could have drafted pretty much anyone in that spot and still had the success they had.

bdub2070
01-18-2013, 01:43 PM
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Enough said. This guy had a laughable combine.


LMAO at his shuttle run.

HTownOlajuwon
01-18-2013, 01:51 PM
System QB.


The Patriots could have drafted pretty much anyone in that spot and still had the success they had.
I don't think that's true. Brady had determination and the work-ethic to become the best. A lot of talented QBs don't, they're just happy being in the NFL and getting paid millions and they stop working hard from there. These are intangibles that you can't measure, but I suppose one could argue that if Brady was picked high, he might not have been as motivated to prove people wrong and be the best.

wheynweed
01-18-2013, 01:54 PM
His coaches at Michigan did a horrible job selling him to NFL scouts, Brady still resents them to this day for being so careless.

JaxBrah
01-18-2013, 02:04 PM
He was put into an incredible position as well. He fell into the perfect system with the perfect coach. Right place at the right time for the most part. Im not saying he isnt highly skilled but i can guarentee he wouldent be so highly regarded if he was drafts by anyone else. Its theeviornment in which he was put into that allowed him to acquire skills he wouldent have elsewhere

iamgenus
01-18-2013, 02:07 PM
lol at people still calling Brady a system QB.

HankScorp1o
01-18-2013, 02:13 PM
First off, 6th round not 5th. Second of all, anyone calling Brady a system QB instantly discredits themselves as someone who is either yet another irrational and jealous Brady hater or doesn't know ANYTHING about football. Srs.

As for how he became great, just go and look at any interview with his teammates/coaches. The guy is insanely competitive and works his ass off.

EDIT: Here's an example:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/baltimore-ravens-have-creative-way-to-stop-tom-brady-011713

From the article: "There’s no set way for defenses to stop Tom Brady. If there were then former Patriots and current Ravens defensive coordinator Dean Pees would have found it by now. Then again, he could always get someone else to do his dirty work.

Pees, who coached the Patriots for six seasons from 2004 to 2009, answered questions about Brady and the Patriots on Thursday ahead of Sunday’s AFC Championship Game rematch. When asked about stopping Brady, though, Pees admitted it was near impossible but offered up a few humorous suggestions while he was at it.

“Hire Tonya Harding,” Pees joked to a response of resounding laughter from the Baltimore media before giving another possible solution. “If they were getting off the bus, I’d spray water outside the bus and hope it freezes.”

Pees made the comments in jest to further explain just how difficult it is to defend Brady. After flirting with the Nancy Kerrigan narrative for a few moments, Pees did offer up his highest praises for Brady and clarified just how tough a test the Patriots’ offense will be.

“He is who he is. I went against him up there in practice for six years. He’s as competitive of a person as I’ve ever been around,” Pees said. “He can give you this little boyish look on TV, but he is a very, very, very competitive guy. He didn’t even like losing in practice.

“The more we rode him on defense — because I had a couple trash-talkers — the harder he played. He is who he is. He’s going to play well. You expect him to play. We have to do the best job we can, fundamentally, to disrupt him and do some things to him. I have a lot of respect for him. He is a Hall of Fame quarterback.”

krogtaar
01-18-2013, 02:17 PM
lol at being 576th of 576 qbs in draft history in athleticism

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01-18-2013, 02:25 PM
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HTownOlajuwon
01-18-2013, 02:29 PM
lol at people still calling Brady a system QB.
He has benefited from a system throughout his career, hard to disagree with that. But he would have found success either way.

I said Brady was a system QB in the past when I was arguing for Manning, and I still stand by that, but nevertheless Brady still would have dominated and found success on any team he would have played for. I always had Brady just behind Manning, it's not like I had Brady outside of the top 5 or 10 or anything, I just had Manning ahead and I recently realize that Brady actually should be ahead of Manning.

jross2021
01-18-2013, 02:31 PM
How does this work? Is it because of hard work that helped him become an Elite QB?

How does a medicore QB(according to scouts at the time) become elite?

And how does an Elite QB in college become medicore/terrible in NFL?


WTF?

System system and system. matt cassell succeeded in NE and Matt flynn set records in one game in GB. I doubt Brady could be successful on many other teams

CheekClapperlol
01-18-2013, 02:39 PM
lol'd so hard at brady being a system QB

so many butt hurt haters ITT, dude has had one **** ass defense but he carries his team to insane records every year

you mad of the GOAT?

http://i.imgur.com/IMkqO.jpg

ShweezyBTFO
01-18-2013, 03:05 PM
system QB from 2001-2005
GOAT QB (or at least top 3) from 2006-present

except when he plays certain teams.

DlDNTREADLOL
01-18-2013, 05:55 PM
95% of the responses in this thread are probably the most retarded thing i've read on the internet. Yes, the Pats do have great coaching and system, but to say that is the reason for his success is flat out stupid.

LeonardShelby
01-18-2013, 06:28 PM
System system and system. matt cassell succeeded in NE and Matt flynn set records in one game in GB. I doubt Brady could be successful on many other teams

I love how people put up the Matt Cassell example even though he had a better season at KC.

Strizzz
01-18-2013, 06:52 PM
Tommy 3 is the king, but you're phucking delusional if you don't think the system he's playing in has helped his success considerably. BRB Bill BeliGOAT at HC.