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*DH*
08-10-2012, 05:08 PM
It's just not fair for those teams to exist knowing they'll never win a championship.

Look at the Bucks. Most irrelevant team in the league. Jodie Meeks turned us down ffs.

-=Zeus=-!
08-10-2012, 05:11 PM
It would be stupid for them to cut the Bucks, considering they are the most international team in the league.

criminal_manne
08-10-2012, 05:11 PM
3-4? Going teams that will never have a chance they should cut 3/4th of the league

*DH*
08-10-2012, 05:14 PM
3-4? Going teams that will never have a chance they should cut 3/4th of the league

Like who, the Cavs? You guys have a decent team going into the future. Kyrie is a stud.

tmc.
08-10-2012, 05:15 PM
cut Lakers, Miami, and OKC imo

bn7
08-10-2012, 05:21 PM
I agree they should just get rid of the Knicks, and let New York start over as a basketball city with Brooklyn. Knicks haven't been bake since the 70's.

criminal_manne
08-10-2012, 05:24 PM
Like who, the Cavs? You guys have a decent team going into the future. Kyrie is a stud.

yea and when he is fully developed and at his prime he can be the Lakers new PG!!

fuk yea lakers are bake

dan213
08-10-2012, 05:26 PM
They need to cut half the teams in the league. They never will, but that's the only way to make the entire league competitive.

*DH*
08-10-2012, 05:27 PM
yea and when he is fully developed and at his prime he can be the Lakers new PG!!

fuk yea lakers are bake

Kyrie/criminal_manne/*DH*/Hill/Howard

Fahnestock
08-10-2012, 05:33 PM
They need to do it like soccer and have a 2 level promotion/relegation system. It eliminates most of the useless teams from the top league and discourages tanking.

Shazik
08-10-2012, 05:36 PM
The Bucks actually have won an NBA Championship, with Kareem back in the 70s. And their lack of success is more the result of horrific management...the Thunder, Spurs, Heat, Grizzlies, and late 2000s Magic, among a few others should be more than enough proof that traditionally "small" TV markets can have success given the right management.

henryk21
08-10-2012, 05:37 PM
They need to do it like soccer and have a 2 level promotion/relegation system. It eliminates most of the useless teams from the top league and discourages tanking.
This kid knows

MrGrimes
08-10-2012, 05:38 PM
I agree they should just get rid of the Knicks, and let New York start over as a basketball city with Brooklyn. Knicks haven't been bake since the 70's.

In your ****ing dreams bitch

Reptarr
08-10-2012, 05:40 PM
OP u got it all wrong. There is plenty of talent as far as players go.. it's the front office people/owners that are the reason a team sucks for 10+ years.

PitBillSoxFan
08-10-2012, 05:40 PM
It's just not fair for those teams to exist knowing they'll never win a championship.

Look at the Bucks. Most irrelevant team in the league. Jodie Meeks turned us down ffs.

I agree with this. I think in 2008 MLB should've gotten rid of the Rays. I mean, look....they were in last (or 2nd to last) in their division for 10 years! They have no chance at every winning anythi.....oh wait

VDubb
08-10-2012, 05:46 PM
First step, order LA to give MPLS its team name and colors back...then eliminate the Warriors, Kings, and Clippers, and start a franchise called the LA Kobes.

Ain't no lakes in Cali....

lee4
08-10-2012, 06:01 PM
they don't need to cut half of the teams, they need to reform their franchise qualifications and talent pooling. there is no incentive to stay small market, and for some crap teams there is no incentive to improve.

plenty of formerly "cut-worthy" teams are now established playoff contenders. the mavs used to be a laughing stock, the sonics were a powerhouse, the cavs are/aren't/are/aren't contenders, the clippers have a horrible history even though their now "lob-city", the knicks needed to be in the D-league for almost a decade there, and on and on.


i don't see how cutting teams will resolve this, that is unless we do sweeping cuts and season reforms, which the big markets won't do...so...

Farshi
08-10-2012, 06:10 PM
i think we can all agree that the bobcats need to be cut though.

Phil9
08-10-2012, 06:21 PM
Does seem like the colleges aren't producing the same caliber of talent that there was in the past. Meanwhile, NBA wants to keep expanding...

spirit3530
08-10-2012, 06:52 PM
Drop the

Raptors
Timberwolves
Bobcats
Golden State
Sacramento

Re distribute those stars to other franchisees

Bucks
Nets
Rockets
Hawks

Phil9
08-10-2012, 06:57 PM
Drop the

Raptors
Timberwolves
Bobcats
Golden State
Sacramento

Re distribute those stars to other franchisees

Bucks
Nets
Rockets
Hawks


Keep Golden State and Sac, they are old school franchises. Agree with rest.

dan213
08-10-2012, 07:01 PM
they don't need to cut half of the teams, they need to reform their franchise qualifications and talent pooling. there is no incentive to stay small market, and for some crap teams there is no incentive to improve.

plenty of formerly "cut-worthy" teams are now established playoff contenders. the mavs used to be a laughing stock, the sonics were a powerhouse, the cavs are/aren't/are/aren't contenders, the clippers have a horrible history even though their now "lob-city", the knicks needed to be in the D-league for almost a decade there, and on and on.


i don't see how cutting teams will resolve this, that is unless we do sweeping cuts and season reforms, which the big markets won't do...so...

There isn't enough talent for 30 teams to be competitive though. Sure some teams that sucked are now good. But at any point in the league there will be 20-25 teams that have ZERO chance of making any kind of run. How is that good for any league?
Players making "super teams" dilutes the talent pool even more.

In every other major American sport you have 10+ teams that are capable of winning a championship when you start the season. The NBA has 4-5 legit contenders on a yearly basis.

jump_man23
08-10-2012, 07:02 PM
Drop the

Raptors
Timberwolves
Bobcats
Golden State
Sacramento

Re distribute those stars to other franchisees

Bucks
Nets
Rockets
Hawks

You seem dumb.

thacalikid911
08-10-2012, 07:05 PM
Drop the

Raptors
Timberwolves
Bobcats
Golden State
Sacramento

Re distribute those stars to other franchisees

Bucks
Nets
Rockets
Hawks

Golden state lmao not sure if srs.

The Bay area is a huge market, and they still sell out despite sucking for 16 out of the 17 past years

Cut

Sac
Bobcats
Toronto
Minnesota
Milwaukee

whitetigerwoods
08-10-2012, 07:19 PM
It's just not fair for those teams to exist knowing they'll never win a championship.

Look at the Bucks. Most irrelevant team in the league. Jodie Meeks turned us down ffs.fcuk no.

Ersan is a G. Although your back court is gonna prove some lulz

badhairdude
08-10-2012, 07:26 PM
meeks going to lakers :D

to the gm of the lakers

http://cdn.chud.com/a/aa/aa669c35_reverse-1233928590_citizen20kane20clapping.gif

nick1990
08-10-2012, 07:28 PM
Golden state lmao not sure if srs.

The Bay area is a huge market, and they still sell out despite sucking for 16 out of the 17 past years

Cut

Sac
Bobcats
Toronto
Minnesota
Milwaukee
Toronto is the only international team, no way they are getting cut
Sacramento could have won five or more championships in the 2000's if the lakers/spurs weren't around
Minny is on the come up

Bobcats and Milwaukee are garbage though
Milwaukee has history, but they honestly havent been relevant for 30 years

spirit3530
08-10-2012, 07:54 PM
You seem dumb.

Yes.


Golden state lmao not sure if srs.

The Bay area is a huge market, and they still sell out despite sucking for 16 out of the 17 past years

Cut

Sac
Bobcats
Toronto
Minnesota
Milwaukee

Yeah, fair enough





Toronto is the only international team, no way they are getting cut
Sacramento could have won five or more championships in the 2000's if the lakers/spurs weren't around
Minny is on the come up

Bobcats and Milwaukee are garbage though
Milwaukee has history, but they honestly havent been relevant for 30 years

Gotta keep either Bucks or Wolves. I chose the Bucks. Minnesota will never be more than what they are. K Love is not going to stay there.

SystemTrend
08-10-2012, 07:59 PM
bobcats, hornets, bucks and cavs?

regGQ
08-10-2012, 08:00 PM
I agree they should just get rid of the Knicks, and let New York start over as a basketball city with Brooklyn. Knicks haven't been bake since the 70's.
you'd have been better off condoning Sandusky than saying this

PhiGreens
08-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Look at the Bucks. Most irrelevant team in the league. Jodie Meeks turned us down ffs.

I dont blame him. When Philly went to Milwaukee last season phaggytime Bucks fans were booing Jodie.. Jodie dropped 27 on em.

StranBall
08-10-2012, 08:21 PM
cut Lakers, Miami, and OKC imoI second this, throw the knicks or celtics in there aswell

folly412
08-10-2012, 08:22 PM
They need to do it like soccer and have a 2 level promotion/relegation system. It eliminates most of the useless teams from the top league and discourages tanking.

This would add some excitement and give small markets have something to play for. Fixes the problem of 1/3 of the league at most trying to win a championship, the second third pretending to be competitive, and the final third not even being relevent.

Trapstar4.4
08-10-2012, 08:29 PM
Yeah the way the league is going is definitely disappointing. Well at least for those of us who have teams that are trying, but don't stand a chance against super teams.

Turning the nba into a concept where the majority of people loosely follow it until late in the playoffs.

Doesn't seem like a good path to continue growing the business

Patient Bear
08-10-2012, 08:43 PM
yea and when he is fully developed and at his prime he can be the Lakers new PG!!

fuk yea lakers are bake

lakers have always been bake brah

Goby
08-10-2012, 09:24 PM
bobcats, hornets, bucks and cavs?

Cavs have a fanbase phaggot.

Also they should have franchise tags like the NFL.

**** with Diva phaggots like Dwight. Make them sit out a year if they want to dictate trades.

*DH*
08-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Cavs have a fanbase phaggot.

Also they should have franchise tags like the NFL.

**** with Diva phaggots like Dwight. Make them sit out a year if they want to dictate trades.

He'd probably sit out lol.

lee4
08-11-2012, 11:08 AM
There isn't enough talent for 30 teams to be competitive though. Sure some teams that sucked are now good. But at any point in the league there will be 20-25 teams that have ZERO chance of making any kind of run. How is that good for any league?
Players making "super teams" dilutes the talent pool even more.

In every other major American sport you have 10+ teams that are capable of winning a championship when you start the season. The NBA has 4-5 legit contenders on a yearly basis.

which addresses the need to disperse talent, not enable talent pooling. cut five teams, and when the next "bottom five" keep leaving to join even "more super" teams the same problem will occur again. with a regress on a mentality like that we may as well save ourselves the time and have the West All-Stars Play the East All-Stars on a touring 82 game season.

the only need to cut a franchise is where the local populace won't support it. if a team is making the first round of the playoffs and doesn't have a capacity crowd...cut'em. but again, make sure the FO isn't driving fans away at the same time. some of these owners should not be allowed to own a team.

Greg1983
08-11-2012, 01:55 PM
Drop the

Raptors
Timberwolves
Bobcats
Golden State
Sacramento

Re distribute those stars to other franchisees

Bucks
Nets
Rockets
Hawks

LOL at this dumb phaggot. The Warriors are the 8th most valuable franchise and the Raptors are the 12th. The league would be retarded to get rid of either of those teams.

Mac_xX
08-11-2012, 02:17 PM
Cut every team DH has been a fan of in the past year. That's probably around 4 teams.

*DH*
08-11-2012, 03:16 PM
Cut every team DH has been a fan of in the past year. That's probably around 4 teams.

I hate you.

ZidaneValor
08-11-2012, 03:41 PM
Cutting teams isn't feasable. I know these franchises aren't competitive title-wise, but the franchises are still worth $300-$400M each. Plus, the NBA would have to pay to get out of the arena lease. Plus, the NBA can't cut an odd number of teams.

Contracting 2 NBA teams is likely to cost the other NBA owners something like $1.2-1.5 BILLION. That's why contraction doesn't happen in MLB.

spirit3530
08-11-2012, 03:50 PM
LOL at this dumb phaggot. The Warriors are the 8th most valuable franchise and the Raptors are the 12th. The league would be retarded to get rid of either of those teams.

Queef beck?

No one gives a **** about the Raptors. The fact that the are the 12 most valuable franchise it obviously means no one in Canada knows **** about what quality BBALL looks like.

Molec
08-11-2012, 03:56 PM
Yeah, would like to nominate the raptors...

they did their job, got me hooked on basketball my formative years, got me a non hockey idol in vince carter my early years...now they just a joke, this a hockey town (and the leafs are a joke, so i guess sports and t.dot dont mix) and always will be a hockey town.

SystemTrend
08-11-2012, 03:56 PM
Cavs have a fanbase phaggot.

Also they should have franchise tags like the NFL.

**** with Diva phaggots like Dwight. Make them sit out a year if they want to dictate trades.

oh yeah thats about all you guy's have in boring Ohio. sports, too bad they are all **** teams. LOL. ****ty cavs, ****ty browns and the ****ty indians and ****ty bluejackets for NHL. LMAO

Molec
08-11-2012, 04:07 PM
LOL at this dumb phaggot. The Warriors are the 8th most valuable franchise and the Raptors are the 12th. The league would be retarded to get rid of either of those teams.

yeah not surprised...torontonians are suckers. You get the same result across ALL sports franchises:

Toronto FC...one of the biggest following in the MLS, sold out games are a routine...TFC, last place
Blue jays...respectable following, brings in respectable revenue...currently last in the AL East
Maple Leafs...lol, lets not start with this biggest ponzi scheme called a 'sports franchise

Even the argonauts...they finished last placed during the 2011 season. How do toronto teams even finish last when it comes to their own sports (Canadian football?) lolol.

kill it

Ecnewyx
08-11-2012, 04:18 PM
yeah not surprised...torontonians are suckers. You get the same result across ALL sports franchises:

Toronto FC...one of the biggest following in the MLS, sold out games are a routine...TFC, last place
Blue jays...respectable following, brings in respectable revenue...currently last in the AL East
Maple Leafs...lol, lets not start with this biggest ponzi scheme called a 'sports franchise

Even the argonauts...they finished last placed during the 2011 season. How do toronto teams even finish last when it comes to their own sports (Canadian football?) lolol.

kill it

It's actually bad because they're passionate fans so ownership has no real incentive to shape up the team besides pride but lol @ pride how's that done for teams lately?

Brb Leafs are a joke but also the NHL team making the most money year after year.

Leafs Ownership:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120404021147/billyssandbox/images/9/9f/Birdman-rubbing-hands.gif

Greg1983
08-11-2012, 04:25 PM
Queef beck?

No one gives a **** about the Raptors. The fact that the are the 12 most valuable franchise it obviously means no one in Canada knows **** about what quality BBALL looks like.

Clearly people do, as the team continues to draw in more revenue than most. But this simple fact is clearly lost on you, so I'll just chalk it up to you being a retard.

Antonio519
08-11-2012, 05:23 PM
should just cancel the NBA, or just have a lakers/heat/okc group stage + final..It'll last a total of maybe 2 weeks

spirit3530
08-11-2012, 05:31 PM
Clearly people do, as the team continues to draw in more revenue than most. But this simple fact is clearly lost on you, so I'll just chalk it up to you being a retard.

In 'merica, if our teams suck, we do not give a **** about that.


inb4 ....

revenue means your bake

Greg1983
08-11-2012, 06:09 PM
In 'merica, if our teams suck, we do not give a **** about that.


inb4 ....

revenue means your bake

No, but making revenue for the league is what is relevant when it comes to contraction and relocation. Don't try and spin this into a Canada/US debate to cover what a failure you are, seeing as how you also mentioned the Warriors for some reason.

spirit3530
08-11-2012, 09:29 PM
Your right, lets move the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Bulls and Spurs to Canada.

dab0osh
08-11-2012, 10:31 PM
They need to cut half the teams in the league. They never will, but that's the only way to make the entire league competitive.

so then u have guys like Rudy Gay backing up to LeBron?

CaptainWildcard
08-11-2012, 11:14 PM
What needs to happen, IMHO, is several things

1) A true hard cap and non guaranteed contracts. This is the only true way to disperse talent across NBA rosters. Unlike MLB or the NFL, there are very very few roster moves in the NBA in a given season. The draft is basically 2 rounds, with many teams not even having a pick in one of those rounds from previous trades.

This would force regime changes. You'd get more Daryl Moreys and Rick Chos and Sam Prestis instead of former ballers trying to be GMs like Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas. Consider under the NBA system, a guy like Bill Belichick or a guy like Tony LaRussa would probably not get a chance since the ranks of NBA coaches and execs are dominated by former players ( needed to pacify diva ballers with huge guaranteed contracts with no way for teams to truly keep them in check)

Non guaranteed contracts means the best players make the best money and you don't get legacy millstones like a Kenyon Martin or Baron Davis or Eddy Curry contract.

2) A change from individual fouls to team fouls only, and the removal of the "superstar" officiating system. If Wade has a bad game, the refs can bail him out and put him on the free throw line 20 times if they want. By shifting to a system where no one can foul out, but each individual foul past 6 works as a technical, you can have refs call a cleaner game without fear of fouling out a superstar and getting the wrath of the league office on them. People pay to see the superstars, if you called their fouls cleanly, you'd have a ton of foul outs and pissed off home fans. There has to be another way to run officiating where Wade doesn't just leap into defenders to get a bail out call because he doesn't have the work ethic to develop a long range jumper.

3) Structural changes to allow other opportunities to win - Adding in a four point line, widening and lengthening the court, shifting from five starting to six starting players, reducing the shot clock, make free throws one on one like college. One of the problems with the league is there is only one true way to win. Tank and keep tanking and hope to get a franchise superstar and then build around him by not winning too much, too fast and hope to lock in your cap at the right time and hope you can win a ring before your rookies get past their rookie deals and leave you for a bigger market team. There has to be a model to build a team an alternative way to win instead of getting true size and the most athletic slashers you can and have Stern rig series and games for the guys most likely to sell the most shoes. If a team can't get size, then let them build around shooters. If a team lacks star power, then let them win via depth. There are literally no ways for a middle class team to make the leap into true contender. Something is wrong when you have a system that punishes a team trying hard to win every game ( The Jazz under Sloan, the Rockets the last few years, the Warriors under Nellie the first time) instead of trying to tank.

You can't ask small market fans to keep watching their teams tank on purpose and hope for a draft pick that might pan out, only to watch him bolt the city as fast as he can if they get one, praying he's not a thug and a malcontent to boot.

The NBA system is broken. I think small market owners could live with it when they were making more money from it, but now, they can't convince their fans to stay. You can only sell fans two things, winning and hope. If you can't win, at least you can offer some hope for the future. But you can't keep dangling the future to fans forever, eventually they realize there is no hope left.

HumptyBrah
08-11-2012, 11:33 PM
First step, order LA to give MPLS its team name and colors back...then eliminate the Warriors, Kings, and Clippers, and start a franchise called the LA Kobes.

Ain't no lakes in Cali....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lakes_in_California

businesslawbrah
08-11-2012, 11:35 PM
What needs to happen, IMHO, is several things

1) A true hard cap and non guaranteed contracts. This is the only true way to disperse talent across NBA rosters. Unlike MLB or the NFL, there are very very few roster moves in the NBA in a given season. The draft is basically 2 rounds, with many teams not even having a pick in one of those rounds from previous trades.

This would force regime changes. You'd get more Daryl Moreys and Rick Chos and Sam Prestis instead of former ballers trying to be GMs like Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas. Consider under the NBA system, a guy like Bill Belichick or a guy like Tony LaRussa would probably not get a chance since the ranks of NBA coaches and execs are dominated by former players ( needed to pacify diva ballers with huge guaranteed contracts with no way for teams to truly keep them in check)

Non guaranteed contracts means the best players make the best money and you don't get legacy millstones like a Kenyon Martin or Baron Davis or Eddy Curry contract.

2) A change from individual fouls to team fouls only, and the removal of the "superstar" officiating system. If Wade has a bad game, the refs can bail him out and put him on the free throw line 20 times if they want. By shifting to a system where no one can foul out, but each individual foul past 6 works as a technical, you can have refs call a cleaner game without fear of fouling out a superstar and getting the wrath of the league office on them. People pay to see the superstars, if you called their fouls cleanly, you'd have a ton of foul outs and pissed off home fans. There has to be another way to run officiating where Wade doesn't just leap into defenders to get a bail out call because he doesn't have the work ethic to develop a long range jumper.

3) Structural changes to allow other opportunities to win - Adding in a four point line, widening and lengthening the court, shifting from five starting to six starting players, reducing the shot clock, make free throws one on one like college. One of the problems with the league is there is only one true way to win. Tank and keep tanking and hope to get a franchise superstar and then build around him by not winning too much, too fast and hope to lock in your cap at the right time and hope you can win a ring before your rookies get past their rookie deals and leave you for a bigger market team. There has to be a model to build a team an alternative way to win instead of getting true size and the most athletic slashers you can and have Stern rig series and games for the guys most likely to sell the most shoes. If a team can't get size, then let them build around shooters. If a team lacks star power, then let them win via depth. There are literally no ways for a middle class team to make the leap into true contender. Something is wrong when you have a system that punishes a team trying hard to win every game ( The Jazz under Sloan, the Rockets the last few years, the Warriors under Nellie the first time) instead of trying to tank.

You can't ask small market fans to keep watching their teams tank on purpose and hope for a draft pick that might pan out, only to watch him bolt the city as fast as he can if they get one, praying he's not a thug and a malcontent to boot.

The NBA system is broken. I think small market owners could live with it when they were making more money from it, but now, they can't convince their fans to stay. You can only sell fans two things, winning and hope. If you can't win, at least you can offer some hope for the future. But you can't keep dangling the future to fans forever, eventually they realize there is no hope left.

tl;dr

cliffs?

VTheKing
08-11-2012, 11:53 PM
It's actually bad because they're passionate fans so ownership has no real incentive to shape up the team besides pride but lol @ pride how's that done for teams lately?

Brb Leafs are a joke but also the NHL team making the most money year after year.

Leafs Ownership:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120404021147/billyssandbox/images/9/9f/Birdman-rubbing-hands.gif

Lol, the worst part about Toronto sports was when Harold Ballard owned the Leafs

brb:

-keeping players' salaries as low as possible despite increasing revenues
-running captains, coaches and front office staff out of town
-trading players just to spite the team's own captain (Sittler)
-holding into former players' rights out of spite so they couldn't sign with other teams
-selling the Leafs' Stanley Cup banners
-having 12 losing seasons, two playoff wins over 18 years

The kicker of course is that the Maple Leafs' Garden still sold out every single night and Ballard made record profits. He knew that he could do whatever the **** he wanted and them Toronto folks would still come out to watch games.

Jason155
08-12-2012, 12:04 AM
Heats will likely be the top contenders for the next 2-3 years.

yourname2221
08-12-2012, 01:17 AM
cut Lakers, Miami, and OKC imo

agree with this.



What needs to happen, IMHO, is several things

1) A true hard cap and non guaranteed contracts. This is the only true way to disperse talent across NBA rosters. Unlike MLB or the NFL, there are very very few roster moves in the NBA in a given season. The draft is basically 2 rounds, with many teams not even having a pick in one of those rounds from previous trades.

This would force regime changes. You'd get more Daryl Moreys and Rick Chos and Sam Prestis instead of former ballers trying to be GMs like Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas. Consider under the NBA system, a guy like Bill Belichick or a guy like Tony LaRussa would probably not get a chance since the ranks of NBA coaches and execs are dominated by former players ( needed to pacify diva ballers with huge guaranteed contracts with no way for teams to truly keep them in check)

Non guaranteed contracts means the best players make the best money and you don't get legacy millstones like a Kenyon Martin or Baron Davis or Eddy Curry contract.

2) A change from individual fouls to team fouls only, and the removal of the "superstar" officiating system. If Wade has a bad game, the refs can bail him out and put him on the free throw line 20 times if they want. By shifting to a system where no one can foul out, but each individual foul past 6 works as a technical, you can have refs call a cleaner game without fear of fouling out a superstar and getting the wrath of the league office on them. People pay to see the superstars, if you called their fouls cleanly, you'd have a ton of foul outs and pissed off home fans. There has to be another way to run officiating where Wade doesn't just leap into defenders to get a bail out call because he doesn't have the work ethic to develop a long range jumper.

3) Structural changes to allow other opportunities to win - Adding in a four point line, widening and lengthening the court, shifting from five starting to six starting players, reducing the shot clock, make free throws one on one like college. One of the problems with the league is there is only one true way to win. Tank and keep tanking and hope to get a franchise superstar and then build around him by not winning too much, too fast and hope to lock in your cap at the right time and hope you can win a ring before your rookies get past their rookie deals and leave you for a bigger market team. There has to be a model to build a team an alternative way to win instead of getting true size and the most athletic slashers you can and have Stern rig series and games for the guys most likely to sell the most shoes. If a team can't get size, then let them build around shooters. If a team lacks star power, then let them win via depth. There are literally no ways for a middle class team to make the leap into true contender. Something is wrong when you have a system that punishes a team trying hard to win every game ( The Jazz under Sloan, the Rockets the last few years, the Warriors under Nellie the first time) instead of trying to tank.

You can't ask small market fans to keep watching their teams tank on purpose and hope for a draft pick that might pan out, only to watch him bolt the city as fast as he can if they get one, praying he's not a thug and a malcontent to boot.

The NBA system is broken. I think small market owners could live with it when they were making more money from it, but now, they can't convince their fans to stay. You can only sell fans two things, winning and hope. If you can't win, at least you can offer some hope for the future. But you can't keep dangling the future to fans forever, eventually they realize there is no hope left.

1. yes
2. not really, I get embarrassed for some of the already petty calls that get people sent to the line. Little contact and whistle. The 80's, 90's style was a little rougher and had no reason to be softened. I doubt there was a statistical correlation to foul calls and player longevity like in football but they still softened the game too much.
3. no 4 point, no change in court. 1 and 1's i can def see. Puts more emphasis on what should be the simplest part of the game and it pretty much free points. But many of the athletes worry about dunking and all that **** and cant hit FT's and thats just sad. /old man rant there.

I like the NFL's parity system that teams can change around hot or cold after an offseason I wish bball would be the same.

Jason155
08-12-2012, 02:10 AM
As a Torontonian I will gladly accept it if the Raptors are cut... They blow.

SpiderSense
08-12-2012, 02:24 AM
Gotta remember super teams will also be getting older.