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JordanW
04-02-2012, 11:18 AM
Total Calories: 2562
Fat: 78g
Carbs: 338g
Protein: 120g

About 13 hours to go, this is called bulking

muscleman353
04-02-2012, 11:26 AM
Total Calories: 2562
Fat: 78g
Carbs: 338g
Protein: 120g

About 13 hours to go, this is called bulking
wtf did u eat? :)

AdamWW
04-02-2012, 11:32 AM
Total Calories: 2562
Fat: 78g
Carbs: 338g
Protein: 120g

About 13 hours to go, this is called bulking

Depending how many meals you have to go, this could be a bad idea ;o)

JordanW
04-02-2012, 11:35 AM
wtf did u eat? :)

I ate 8 poptarts (1600cal, 40f,288c,16p), 4 pepperettes (400cal, 30f, 4c, 28p) , 2scoops of Myofusion w/water (294cal, 6f, 10c, 50p), 700ml Skim Milk (268cal, 2f, 36c, 26p),

I'm carbing up pre workout then my post workout meal will be up to 1188calories depending on how many yolks I eat...

This will be my Post workout meal:
10 Hard Boiled Eggs 700cal - 60g P
1L Skim Milk 383cal - 37g P
Banana 105cal - 1P


So by 4pm or 4.5 hours awake I will have consumed around 3750cal but also I will have gatorade or something during my wokrout so prob closer to 4k

martinykolev
04-02-2012, 11:36 AM
if u go for 6 meals and thats 2.5 hours awake ull probably piss and poop 1/3 of the total ;)

JordanW
04-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Depending how many meals you have to go, this could be a bad idea ;o)

Been doing this for abotu 5 weeks now, going pretty good lol

yieldtonothing
04-02-2012, 11:59 AM
good luck with your nutrient deficiency goals in 2012

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:02 PM
good luck with your nutrient deficiency goals in 2012

What nutrients are you referring too? Coming from someone 50lb lighter than me?

If you look over this I am already over 100% of most of my essential nutrients and I've been awake for what 4 hours? This doesn't include my post workout meal, snacks, or my dinner (tonight is pork chops, asparagus, brocolli, and potatoes)...

Do you often go full retard?

Poptarts
Iron 80%
Thiamine 64%
Riboflavin 32%
Niacin 58%
Folate 120%
Phosphorus 16%
Magnesium 16%

Myofusion
Vit A 50%
Vit C 50%
Vit D 50%
Vit E 50%
VIt K 2%
Thiamin 70%
Calcium 50%
Potassium 12%

Pepperette
Vitamin A 8%
Vitamin C 180%
Calcium 8%
Iron 24%

Milk
Calcium 90%
Vitamin C 12%
Iron 3%


Also not taking into account my multi vitamin

Vitamin A(as Beta Carotene) &(as Acetate, Incl) 10,000IU 200%
Vitamin C(as Ascorbic Acid) 200mg 333%
Vitamin D3(as Cholecalciferol) 400IU 100%
Vitamin E(as DL-Alpha Tocopheryls Acetate) 60IU 200%
Vitamin K(as Phytonadione) 75mcg 93%
Vitamin B1(as Thiamin Hydrochloride) 30mg 2000%
Vitamin B2(as Riboflavin) 30mg 1765%
Vitamin B3(as Niacinamide) 30mg 150%
Vitamin B6(as Pyridoxine HCL) 30mg 1500%
Folic Acid 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B12(as Cyanocobalamin) 30mcg 500%
Biotin 300mcg 100%
Vitamin B5(as Pantothenic Acid) 30mg 300%
Di-Calcium Phosphate -Calcium75mg 8%
-Phosphorus45mg 6%
Iron(as Ferrous Fumarate) 6mg 33%
Iodine(as Potassium Iodide) 150mcg 100%
Magnesium(as Magnesium Oxide) 100mg 25%
Zinc(as Zinc Chelate) 30mg 200%
Selenium(as Selenium Amino Acid Chelate) 75mcg 108%
Copper(as Copper Chelate) 2mg 100%
Manganese(as Manganese Sulfate) 10mg 500%
Chromium(as Chromium Chelate) 100mcg 84%
Molybdenum(as Molybdenum Chelate) 80mcg 106%
Potassium Chloride -Chloride36mg <2%
-Potassium40mg <2%
Silicon 30mg *
Tin(as Tin Chelate) 10mcg *
Vanadium(as Vanadium Chelate) 10mcg *
Boron(as Boron Amino Acid Chelate) 150mcg *
Nickel(as Nickel Protein Chelate) 25mcg *

xcessive1
04-02-2012, 12:16 PM
how many meals are you eating? just 2?

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:17 PM
how many meals are you eating? just 2?

Probably 4-5 more of various size

AdamWW
04-02-2012, 12:22 PM
Probably 4-5 more of various size

What are you daily targets?

BBqChicken1
04-02-2012, 12:24 PM
if u go for 6 meals and thats 2.5 hours awake ull probably piss and poop 1/3 of the total ;)


Yep. That's true. Your body ****s out what it doesn't need.



That's why obesity doesn't exist.























Oh wait.

Dexter3000
04-02-2012, 12:25 PM
Thanks for calling. What is your question?

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:25 PM
What are you daily targets?

Calories 5.5k+
Protein 300g+

AdamWW
04-02-2012, 12:28 PM
Calories 5.5k+
Protein 300g+

Sounds fun

Is your maintenance around 4.5-5k?

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:32 PM
Sounds fun

Is your maintenance around 4.5-5k?

BMR is 2.1k, guessing my maintenance is 3500

AdamWW
04-02-2012, 12:33 PM
BMR is 2.1k, guessing my maintenance is 3500

5.5k would be like a 57% surplus dude...

If that's really your maintenance you're going to add like 4lbs of fat a week.

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:39 PM
5.5k would be like a 57% surplus dude...

If that's really your maintenance you're going to add like 4lbs of fat a week.

Max 3.5lb of weight, no way it's going to all be fat, taking into consideration my training routine+protein intake some of this is going to be muscle, and the amount of carbs, glycogen stores will expand

AdamWW
04-02-2012, 12:40 PM
Max 3.5lb of weight, no way it's going to all be fat, taking into consideration my training routine+protein intake some of this is going to be muscle, and the amount of carbs, glycogen stores will expand

At 5' 10" and 208 with ~10% BF level, you are not going to gain much muscle every week dude...

You look like you've been training for a while and you're not going to gain close to even a lb of muscle in a week.

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:41 PM
At 5' 10" and 208 with sub 10% BF levels, you are not going to gain much muscle every week dude...

what does my bf have to do with my potential muscle gain? my caloric intake is the main factor not current body composition

BigD208
04-02-2012, 12:44 PM
You currently on Cell Tech brah?


If not sounds like a recipee for getting fat. Although you seem to look like you know what you are doing ;)

venger_satanis
04-02-2012, 12:45 PM
What nutrients are you referring too? Coming from someone 50lb lighter than me?

If you look over this I am already over 100% of most of my essential nutrients and I've been awake for what 4 hours? This doesn't include my post workout meal, snacks, or my dinner (tonight is pork chops, asparagus, brocolli, and potatoes)...

Do you often go full retard?

Poptarts
Iron 80%
Thiamine 64%
Riboflavin 32%
Niacin 58%
Folate 120%
Phosphorus 16%
Magnesium 16%

Myofusion
Vit A 50%
Vit C 50%
Vit D 50%
Vit E 50%
VIt K 2%
Thiamin 70%
Calcium 50%
Potassium 12%

Pepperette
Vitamin A 8%
Vitamin C 180%
Calcium 8%
Iron 24%

Milk
Calcium 90%
Vitamin C 12%
Iron 3%


Also not taking into account my multi vitamin

Vitamin A(as Beta Carotene) &(as Acetate, Incl) 10,000IU 200%
Vitamin C(as Ascorbic Acid) 200mg 333%
Vitamin D3(as Cholecalciferol) 400IU 100%
Vitamin E(as DL-Alpha Tocopheryls Acetate) 60IU 200%
Vitamin K(as Phytonadione) 75mcg 93%
Vitamin B1(as Thiamin Hydrochloride) 30mg 2000%
Vitamin B2(as Riboflavin) 30mg 1765%
Vitamin B3(as Niacinamide) 30mg 150%
Vitamin B6(as Pyridoxine HCL) 30mg 1500%
Folic Acid 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B12(as Cyanocobalamin) 30mcg 500%
Biotin 300mcg 100%
Vitamin B5(as Pantothenic Acid) 30mg 300%
Di-Calcium Phosphate -Calcium75mg 8%
-Phosphorus45mg 6%
Iron(as Ferrous Fumarate) 6mg 33%
Iodine(as Potassium Iodide) 150mcg 100%
Magnesium(as Magnesium Oxide) 100mg 25%
Zinc(as Zinc Chelate) 30mg 200%
Selenium(as Selenium Amino Acid Chelate) 75mcg 108%
Copper(as Copper Chelate) 2mg 100%
Manganese(as Manganese Sulfate) 10mg 500%
Chromium(as Chromium Chelate) 100mcg 84%
Molybdenum(as Molybdenum Chelate) 80mcg 106%
Potassium Chloride -Chloride36mg <2%
-Potassium40mg <2%
Silicon 30mg *
Tin(as Tin Chelate) 10mcg *
Vanadium(as Vanadium Chelate) 10mcg *
Boron(as Boron Amino Acid Chelate) 150mcg *
Nickel(as Nickel Protein Chelate) 25mcg *


Way too much time on your hands?

Try this: leangains.com


VS

EddieFromEurope
04-02-2012, 12:48 PM
Max 3.5lb of weight, no way it's going to all be fat, taking into consideration my training routine+protein intake some of this is going to be muscle, and the amount of carbs, glycogen stores will expand
A little muscle, alot of fat. You should read this (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_truth_about_bulking;jsessionid=DE98BBABA0753D1 A96230CA77F5701AF-mcd02.hydra) and slow down a little bit, if your plan is not to get fat.

JordanW
04-02-2012, 12:53 PM
A little muscle, alot of fat. You should read this (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_truth_about_bulking;jsessionid=DE98BBABA0753D1 A96230CA77F5701AF-mcd02.hydra) and slow down a little bit, if your plan is not to get fat.

I'm bulking obviously fat will come with it, I do not fear losing my abs lol

EddieFromEurope
04-02-2012, 01:00 PM
I'm bulking obviously fat will come with it, I do not fear losing my abs lol
If you read it, then you would understand that there is no point in bulking with gaining alot of fat. It says that you can gain more muscle by bulking slowly (because you don't have to cut as much).

That's what I'm going to do after I drop the fat.

Just my opinion.

ErikTheElectric
04-02-2012, 01:02 PM
iwishihadyourmaintenance

psychodiver9
04-02-2012, 01:05 PM
Troll or dreamer bulk?

Dexter3000
04-02-2012, 01:09 PM
Target of 5500+ kcal per day.

Jelly.

adam483t
04-02-2012, 01:17 PM
Has to be a troll.

BigD208
04-02-2012, 01:41 PM
While you may not mind getting a little soft think about it like this: You don't build muscle cutting. Cutting is kinda like wasted time you could have spent bulking. If you have to stop your mass gaining every 6 months to cut for 3 months than thats time you could have spent adding more LBM to your frame. A Small caloric surplus of 300-500 calories = much leaner gains wich means more time per year concentrating on gaining mass. Cutting=maintaining muscle base, Bulking = building muscle base. I don't see why you would want to set yourself up for having to cut at all. I mean you will always gain a little fat from a bulk but you can keep it very minimal in my experience. But as I've said, looks like you know whats up. Thick.Solid.Tight.

AdamWW
04-02-2012, 02:49 PM
what does my bf have to do with my potential muscle gain? my caloric intake is the main factor not current body composition

Uh, because newbie gains are a real thing.

If you've got that much mass on your frame, the body does have a limit in terms of how much mass you can pack on, and it slows down over time once you hit a certain level.

A BRAND new, FIRST YEAR bodybuilder might add like 20lbs of muscle in a year if EVERYTHING is perfect.. subsequent years reduce dramatically until you probably don't add more than 1-5 in a whole year.

Think about it, if you could just keep gaining in a linear progression your whole life, you'd end up 400lbs with 5% BF.

It don't work that way... unless you're starting to ride a bike.

Also, it's not a matter of fearing the loss of your abs: by ALL means, add a buffer in there to be safe.... but in terms of gaining the most muscle possible, there's no benefit to consuming 10calories vs 2000calories over your REAL maintenance.. ANY extra, by necessity, will be stored as fat.