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KingCanuck
02-13-2012, 07:25 PM
CL -Sergio Santos 3.55 ERA, 92 K's in 62.1 Innings (holy ****), 30 saves. In only his 2nd year as a pitcher.
SU- Jansen 2.26 ERA in 52 innings last year 1.10 WHIP
SU- Oliver 2.29 ERA in 51 innings last year, four straight seasons with an ERA less than 3
SU-Frasor 3.60 ERA in 60 innings last year
7th Inning - Cordero 2.45 ERA in 69.2 innings last year (over 30 saves each of the last five years)
Long Relief- Villaneuva 1.60 ERA as a Reliever last year
Long Relief/Lefty Specialist - Perez 4.27 ERA has a Reliever last year



wow

sircharles032
02-13-2012, 07:28 PM
In before Bacon, but the Braves.

LiftLaughLust
02-13-2012, 07:29 PM
the Rangers and Braves have pretty sick bullpens but overall I really don't think there's one substantially better than the Blue Jays'

sups31
02-13-2012, 07:30 PM
Feliciano
Soriano
Robertson
Rivera


see ya later phaggot.

LiftLaughLust
02-13-2012, 07:33 PM
Feliciano
Soriano
Robertson
Rivera


see ya later phaggot.
thanks for the laugh and yes the yankees will win the east np but it will be because of their big bats in dat stadium and their rotation

Greg1983
02-13-2012, 07:33 PM
Don't forget Litsch will be fighting for a spot. 4.08 ERA as a reliever last year doesn't jump off the page but 9.42 K/9 and a 2.99 xFIP sure look promising

AriGhold
02-13-2012, 07:34 PM
Shut the **** up and drill for some maple syrup, phaggot

KingCanuck
02-13-2012, 07:35 PM
Given the situation, our regular players can pitch too. Bautista has a 92+ fastball (SRS), and McCoy had a 0.0era last year (you mad he could play 3B, LF, CF, SS, 2B, 1B and pitcher?)... ya u mad

LiftLaughLust
02-13-2012, 07:36 PM
Don't forget Litsch will be fighting for a spot. 4.08 ERA as a reliever last year doesn't jump off the page but 9.42 K/9 and a 2.99 xFIP sure look promising
and I'm sure Beck and Carreno will be in the running for a bullpen spot as well

MrStrange
02-13-2012, 07:37 PM
fun fact
oliver has made the playoffs 6 straight years with 3 different teams

LiftLaughLust
02-13-2012, 07:38 PM
fun fact
oliver has made the playoffs 6 straight years with 3 different teams
aww don't go gettin KC wet with anticipation lol

WheyneNewton
02-13-2012, 07:39 PM
David "Sweet Cheeks" Robertson is 10x better than anyone in that pen


http://i.imgur.com/fYWFR.jpg

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19728247&c_id=mlb

KingCanuck
02-13-2012, 07:40 PM
fun fact
oliver has made the playoffs 6 straight years with 3 different teams

fun fact
After this season Oiler will have made the playoffs 7 straight years with 4 different teams

melanimal_old
02-13-2012, 07:40 PM
The Reds have like 10 WAR bullpen I think

BigNastyIsBack
02-13-2012, 07:45 PM
I really didnt like the santos pickup for them. I feel like his ERA will inflate in the al east.

Greg1983
02-13-2012, 07:46 PM
I really didnt like the santos pickup for them. I feel like his ERA will inflate in the al east.

Everyone's ERA will inflate in the AL East. Guess we shouldn't ever get a new pitcher.

vnodnarb
02-13-2012, 07:50 PM
C. Kimbrel - 2.10 ERA, 127 K's in 77IP, 46 saves
J. Venters - 1.84 ERA, 94 K's, 2 HR allowed in 88IP
E. O' Flaherty - 0.98 ERA, 2 HR allowed in 73 IP
C. Martinez - 3.36 ERA, led league in 2+ inning appearances
K. Medlen - 3.60 ERA in '10-'11, 4.0 K/BB
A. Vizcaino - top 20 prospect, 3.06 ERA in minors last season, 100 K's in 97IP
A. Varvaro - 2.63 ERA, 8.6 K/9


/thread

KingCanuck
02-13-2012, 07:51 PM
C. Kimbrel - 2.10 ERA, 127 K's in 77IP, 46 saves
J. Venters - 1.84 ERA, 94 K's, 2 HR allowed in 88IP
E. O' Flaherty - 0.98 ERA, 2 HR allowed in 73 IP
C. Martinez - 3.36 ERA, led league in 2+ inning appearances
K. Medlen - 3.60 ERA in '10-'11, 4.0 K/BB
A. Vizcaino - top 20 prospect, 3.06 ERA in minors last season, 100 K's in 97IP
A. Varvaro - 2.63 ERA, 8.6 K/9


/thread

Play in the NL

/thread

vnodnarb
02-13-2012, 07:56 PM
Play in the NL

/thread

10-5 vs. AL

/thread

GetStrongYo
02-13-2012, 07:57 PM
4th place bound..............again.

/thread

bbacn123
02-13-2012, 08:07 PM
CL -Sergio Santos 3.55 ERA, 92 K's in 62.1 Innings (holy ****), 30 saves. In only his 2nd year as a pitcher.
SU- Jansen 2.26 ERA in 52 innings last year 1.10 WHIP
SU- Oliver 2.29 ERA in 51 innings last year, four straight seasons with an ERA less than 3
SU-Frasor 3.60 ERA in 60 innings last year
7th Inning - Cordero 2.45 ERA in 69.2 innings last year (over 30 saves each of the last five years)
Long Relief- Villaneuva 1.60 ERA as a Reliever last year
Long Relief/Lefty Specialist - Perez 4.27 ERA has a Reliever last year



wow

http://gifs4misc.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Donovan-McNabb-Stare1.gif


Play in the NL

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ShweezyBTFO
02-13-2012, 08:20 PM
thanks for the laugh and yes the yankees will win the east np but it will be because of their big bats in dat stadium and their rotation

Patriots, Celtics, Red Sox, Bruins

bbacn123
02-13-2012, 08:20 PM
Everyone's ERA will inflate in the AL East. Guess we shouldn't ever get a new pitcher.

http://i.qkme.me/363ote.jpg

Greg1983
02-13-2012, 08:36 PM
http://i.qkme.me/363ote.jpg

Congrats that's completely irrelevant. If the NL East is better it's due to their superior pitching staffs. The AL East has the best offenses and the most hitter friendly ballparks on average in baseball, and thus is the hardest to pitch in.

pkahnman
02-13-2012, 08:54 PM
thanks for the laugh and yes the yankees will win the east np but it will be because of their big bats in dat stadium and their rotationLmao so our bp will have nothing to do with us winning the east?

Ok

bbacn123
02-13-2012, 09:00 PM
Congrats that's completely irrelevant. If the NL East is better it's due to their superior pitching staffs. The AL East has the best offenses and the most hitter friendly ballparks on average in baseball, and thus is the hardest to pitch in.

http://i.qkme.me/363qsj.jpg

Greg1983
02-13-2012, 09:11 PM
Games evolve. Deal with it.

datnikkadee
02-13-2012, 09:12 PM
the Rangers and Braves have pretty sick bullpens but overall I really don't think there's one substantially better than the Blue Jays'


that Rangers bullpen sho did get them that WS Ring

GoldBlue
02-13-2012, 09:29 PM
that Rangers bullpen sho did get them that WS Ring

And Ol' Oliver blew a chance to slam the door. Have fun with Oliver pitching with inherited runners or after he allows a runner.

KingCanuck
02-13-2012, 09:31 PM
And Ol' Oliver blew a chance to slam the door. Have fun with Oliver pitching with inherited runners or after he allows a runner.

Have fun with Joe Nathan as your closer.

lulz were had

Greg1983
02-13-2012, 09:32 PM
And Ol' Oliver blew a chance to slam the door. Have fun with Oliver pitching with inherited runners or after he allows a runner.

Oliver's opponents' slash line with:

Bases empty: .238/.266/.343
Runners on: .234/.294/.277

Yeah he really collapses.

LiftLaughLust
02-14-2012, 03:21 AM
Patriots, Celtics, Red Sox, Bruins
and?...

ShweezyBTFO
02-14-2012, 03:50 AM
Have fun with Joe Nathan as your closer.

lulz were had

all the phaggots mentioned by you two and ITT are light weight in the presence of the GOAT

http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mariano-rivera.jpg

BigNastyIsBack
02-14-2012, 06:21 AM
Everyone's ERA will inflate in the AL East. Guess we shouldn't ever get a new pitcher.

what im saying is that if his era is 3.55 in the central its only going to get worse in the east. There was a few good closers avaliable. If I was a jays fan I wouldnt be impressed by this pickup

joshnumber21
02-14-2012, 07:36 AM
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DCocK
02-14-2012, 07:43 AM
Forever 4th place.


inb4 Orioles forever5thplace.

mchoodie
02-14-2012, 08:09 AM
The Braves for sure but also the Tribe.

CL - Chris Perez 3.32 ERA and 36 saves.
SU- Pestano 2.32 ERA, 2 saves and 84 K's
SU- Joe Smith 2.01 ERA
SU- Rafael Perez LHP with a 3.00 ERA
7th Inning - Tony Sipp LHP with a 3.03 ERA and 57 K's
Long relief will probably be Nick Hagadone would had a 4.09 ERA last year in limited duty.

batman15
02-14-2012, 08:10 AM
Shut the **** up and drill for some maple syrup, phaggot

Lol.

bbacn123
02-14-2012, 09:24 AM
OP owes a lot of people reps. I'll help him out by taking care of anyone who said ATL.

Greg1983
02-14-2012, 10:24 AM
what im saying is that if his era is 3.55 in the central its only going to get worse in the east. There was a few good closers avaliable. If I was a jays fan I wouldnt be impressed by this pickup

Well his peripherals improved from 2010 to 2011 and his ERA increased, so there was probably a lot of bad luck there. I'm not worried. Not to mention the better closers available got contracts for far more than Santos is making, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

LiftLaughLust
02-14-2012, 10:30 AM
the Rangers and Braves have pretty sick bullpens but overall I really don't think there's one substantially better than the Blue Jays'


OP owes a lot of people reps. I'll help him out by taking care of anyone who said ATL.

1st :)

sircharles cheated
Last edited by sircharles032; Today at 01:09 PM.

melanimal_old
02-14-2012, 10:33 AM
Games evolve. Deal with it.

The DH is the de-evolution of baseball.

sircharles032
02-14-2012, 10:35 AM
1st :)

sircharles cheated
Last edited by sircharles032; Today at 01:09 PM.

Cheated? For his reps? I'm a Braves fan so of course I said that, but the Braves pen is loaded, especially after we cut some dead weight (that the Yankees picked up lulz) last season. My edit was a comment that I had made about the Braves not having Brett Lawrie because of the sig bet that Bacon lost last year to KC. Nobody responded to it so I took it out... So strong call out. You rule. Don't be such a try hard for reps. It's not flattering.

But thanks for the hookup, KC.

bustermac
02-14-2012, 11:53 AM
White Sox fan - Santos is a converted position player who has only been pitching a few years and not always reliable. His YE numbers look good but it was always nerve-racking to watch him in the 9th.

He had 6 blown saves, a lot more walks than a closer should have and has more losses than wins in his career. Also, a 3.55 ERA is not what you want your closer to have.

Good luck with him.

sircharles032
02-14-2012, 12:29 PM
White Sox fan - Santos is a converted position player who has only been pitching a few years and not always reliable. His YE numbers look good but it was always nerve-racking to watch him in the 9th.

He had 6 blown saves, a lot more walks than a closer should have and has more losses than wins in his career. Also, a 3.55 ERA is not what you want your closer to have.

Good luck with him.

All of this is valid but at the same time he has a year of trial by fire now and that experience has to be invaluable, especially for a converted position player like you said.

bustermac
02-14-2012, 01:06 PM
All of this is valid but at the same time he has a year of trial by fire now and that experience has to be invaluable, especially for a converted position player like you said.

He's a classic flamethrower pitcher...he'll either rack up a K or get hit around. I liked him in the setup role actually, where he'll probably end up in with the Jays. I'd put my money on Cordero being the 9th-inning guy. Toronto has had a revolving door at closer for a few years and with this bullpen, it doesn't look like it will change. A lot of "potential" closers but no clear winner for the job.

KingCanuck
02-14-2012, 01:18 PM
He's a classic flamethrower pitcher...he'll either rack up a K or get hit around. I liked him in the setup role actually, where he'll probably end up in with the Jays. I'd put my money on Cordero being the 9th-inning guy. Toronto has had a revolving door at closer for a few years and with this bullpen, it doesn't look like it will change. A lot of "potential" closers but no clear winner for the job.

You sound bitter. And lol at Codero..have you seen his advanced stats?

TYBGZyzz
02-14-2012, 01:26 PM
JON RAUCH















JON RAUCH

Good luck with your late game rally goals in 2012.

jross2021
02-14-2012, 01:28 PM
the Mariners

rep me

Greg1983
02-14-2012, 01:45 PM
He's a classic flamethrower pitcher...he'll either rack up a K or get hit around. I liked him in the setup role actually, where he'll probably end up in with the Jays. I'd put my money on Cordero being the 9th-inning guy. Toronto has had a revolving door at closer for a few years and with this bullpen, it doesn't look like it will change. A lot of "potential" closers but no clear winner for the job.

I lol'd. Cordero is the 5th best pitcher in the Jays' pen.

Greg1983
02-14-2012, 01:46 PM
JON RAUCH

JON RAUCH

Good luck with your late game rally goals in 2012.

Why we talking about the Mets?

Be_Easy_25
02-14-2012, 01:48 PM
im fine with my bullpen.

young throw hards.

BigNastyIsBack
02-14-2012, 01:49 PM
Well his peripherals improved from 2010 to 2011 and his ERA increased, so there was probably a lot of bad luck there. I'm not worried. Not to mention the better closers available got contracts for far more than Santos is making, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

If he ends up working out for the Jays then more power to them. They did get him fairly cheap. Maybe it will workout. Other than Santos, I do like their bullpen

Greg1983
02-14-2012, 01:54 PM
If he ends up working out for the Jays then more power to them. They did get him fairly cheap. Maybe it will workout. Other than Santos, I do like their bullpen

I assume you think Nestor Molina is better then, since you didn't like the pickup. Good luck on that.

ericb14
02-14-2012, 02:29 PM
I really didnt like the santos pickup for them. I feel like his ERA will inflate in the al east.

We snagged him for a prospect that would have been ranked about 20th in or organization....whats not to like.

bbacn123
02-14-2012, 03:10 PM
1st :)

sircharles cheated
Last edited by sircharles032; Today at 01:09 PM.

I don't think you quite said the Braves are better than the Jays though. What you said was the Braves have a sick bullpen. Everyone knows this. Doubt this qualifies you for reps, sorry.

And I rep Sircharles on the regular for the most part anyway and I think i have to spread before hitting him again. Not that he really cares.