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Minotaur
02-06-2012, 01:43 PM
1. Clean the weight.
2. Front squat down/up.
3. Set weight down.

Rinse, repeat.

Anyone ever do it?

I have them as two separate exercises... a clean and a front squat, but I was wondering if anyone did it as one movement and how you felt it was compared to two separate movements. I'd like to try it, but would like to hear a more experienced voice. Oh, and need I say this would be with the kettlebells? :D

Marius_Ursus
02-06-2012, 01:48 PM
Yes. An official clean includes a front squat as part of the move. With kettlebells, it's a mimic of the barbell move (with those slight kettlebell adjustments you have to make for not using a barbell). The pull-under is weird with the kettlebells, but it can be done. Come to think of it when I was learning the pull under with the barbell, it felt really weird, too.

Are you talking about power cleaning and then dropping into the front squat? 'Cause I do that as well depending on what I'm doing in the workout (working particular technique, complexes for conditioning, or GPP).

bigtallox
02-06-2012, 01:58 PM
1. Clean the weight.
2. Front squat down/up.
3. Set weight down.

Rinse, repeat.

Anyone ever do it?

Yes. We also so, clean, front squat, overhead press, bar down. Repeat.




how you felt it was compared to two separate movements.


It turns into cardio, well strongman cardio, that's why we do them like that.

Minotaur
02-06-2012, 02:22 PM
Yes. An official clean includes a front squat as part of the move. With kettlebells, it's a mimic of the barbell move (with those slight kettlebell adjustments you have to make for not using a barbell).


Are you talking about power cleaning and then dropping into the front squat? 'Cause I do that as well depending on what I'm doing in the workout (working particular technique, complexes for conditioning, or GPP).

Yes indeed. Power clean from floor, drop into front squat, then back up to complete the squat, set kettlebells down and repeat.

For example, tonight I have power clean and front squat as two exercises, but I was thinking of trying to combine them into one movement.


Yes. We also so, clean, front squat, overhead press, bar down. Repeat.

Omg! :eek: I did that... the power clean, front squat, overhead press. I got 4 reps per set. At first I was afraid I was going to die, then I was afraid I wasn''t going to die.

Marius_Ursus
02-06-2012, 02:23 PM
OK, what you're describing is basically a type of kettlebell complex and done at sufficient volume and weight for your current level of training, should leave you breathing like a locomotive and feeling like you're going to vomit. :D

keyboardworkout
02-06-2012, 02:31 PM
Complex

Clean x 5 + Press x 5 + Squat x 5 then put the weight down


Chain

(Clean x 1 + Press x 1 + Squat x1) x 5 then put the weight down




For some reason chains seem harder than complexes.

Marius_Ursus
02-06-2012, 02:35 PM
Complex

Clean x 5 + Press x 5 + Squat x 5 then put the weight down


Chain

(Clean x 1 + Press x 1 + Squat x1) x 5 then put the weight down




For some reason chains seem harder than complexes.

What you're calling a complex is what is usually referred to as a superset.

keyboardworkout
02-06-2012, 02:40 PM
What you're calling a complex is what is usually referred to as a superset.

I thought a superset was just two movements, with more than two becoming a complex.

Semantics don't really matter as long as everyone understands.

Minotaur
02-06-2012, 02:41 PM
OK, what you're describing is basically a type of kettlebell complex and done at sufficient volume and weight for your current level of training, should leave you breathing like a locomotive and feeling like you're going to vomit. :D

Yes, yes, vomit I wanted to. Breathing like forge bellows I was. Putting on socks the next morning might have qualified as an Olympic event.


...
Chain

(Clean x 1 + Press x 1 + Squat x1) x 5 then put the weight down




For some reason chains seem harder than complexes.

That's what I did.

Minotaur
02-06-2012, 02:45 PM
Semantics don't really matter as long as everyone understands.

This is true. I think we can all understand it's a mother****er of a workout. :D

I'm glad to know these are valid movements and not some hotdog thing I came up with.

flyineagle96
02-06-2012, 03:58 PM
Very nice workout i've been doing the powerclean then squat for a few years now still kicks the **** out of me but well worth the suffering feel great the next day!!!

gbg
02-07-2012, 06:19 AM
Hi Minotaur, long time no see :) I see you're working with KB's now. Marius is the man when it comes to them, not familiar at all myself, but can help with BB movements such as cleans.

Here's a link to an article on our site about BB complexes, they're a very good conditioning workout and seriously kick your ass!! hope all is well with you.

http://www.sweatpit.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=complexes

cockywop
02-07-2012, 06:59 AM
That was a good article ^^^^^

I love doing complexes for cardio, especially useful where I live. Weather sucks

Just seems a little more manly than power walking.

GuyJin
02-07-2012, 07:16 AM
Seems you got 'bell fever, Frank. I do what you described once a week with the k'bells and yeah, you breathe hard and feel pretty pukey the first couple of times around. You'll get used to it. Fun stuff.

Marius_Ursus
02-07-2012, 07:40 AM
Hi Minotaur, long time no see :) I see you're working with KB's now. Marius is the man when it comes to them, not familiar at all myself, but can help with BB movements such as cleans.



You will be very familiar with them after this summer's lifting camp at Bear Swamp Manor. :D

Minotaur
02-07-2012, 10:39 AM
Hi Minotaur, long time no see :) I see you're working with KB's now. Marius is the man when it comes to them, not familiar at all myself, but can help with BB movements such as cleans.

Here's a link to an article on our site about BB complexes, they're a very good conditioning workout and seriously kick your ass!! hope all is well with you.

http://www.sweatpit.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=complexes

Ah, thanks for the link. Yep, doing OK. Weight's coming off with diet and exercise... the tried and true method. :D


Seems you got 'bell fever, Frank. I do what you described once a week with the k'bells and yeah, you breathe hard and feel pretty pukey the first couple of times around. You'll get used to it. Fun stuff.

Yeah, they're the shizzit. I'm trying all kinds of stuff to see what I like, and most importantly what I can do and what will work. I'm doing bodyweight work too... pull-ups, push-ups and dips. I never thought I'd be making such a radical change in my training. I don't want to get ripped, but I want to get in shape, dammit.

Minotaur
02-07-2012, 10:40 AM
You will be very familiar with them after this summer's lifting camp at Bear Swamp Manor. :D

Or after I keep going on and on and on about them. :D

GnomusMaximus
02-07-2012, 12:50 PM
What you are suggesting in the first post is a good way to learn how to do squat cleans. Once I manage to do it, I'll let you know.

Minotaur
02-07-2012, 02:36 PM
What you are suggesting in the first post is a good way to learn how to do squat cleans. Once I manage to do it, I'll let you know.

Good, I want to know how it works for you. Will you use a barbell or a cabre? :D

Actually mine went pretty well last night. I took a shoulder wide stance, cleaned the kettlebells up like this:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2005/lbrooks2p.jpg

squatted down almost atg, then backup. I think it was a pretty good movement, and form.

keyboardworkout
02-07-2012, 06:59 PM
The workouts start on page 5.

http://kettlebellsecrets.com/reports/freedom.pdf

Very similar to the "kettlebell Muscle" program that is done with doubles.