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Strength.Honor
10-11-2011, 02:24 PM
"I've seen a lot of problems with bodybuilders in my area of work whilst eating too much protein, it kills the liver"


discuss. who wants to write me a rebutle to raise my hand?

jakefurfaro
10-11-2011, 02:26 PM
better tell him to show some proof

FourToEight
10-11-2011, 02:28 PM
Keep negging her until she's red.

WonderPug
10-11-2011, 02:30 PM
Express your interest in the topic and ask her for peer-reviewed journal published research in support of her position. You might want to add that you searched for such on your own and could not locate any supporting research, which is why you're asking her for relevant citations.

Just don't be confrontational. Use interest as the reason for your request.

GavriloPrincip
10-11-2011, 02:31 PM
Tell him he's a cheeky ****, mate.

sunngodd
10-11-2011, 02:35 PM
No adverse effects of protein intake @ 3g/kg of bodyweight

http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614%2810%2900222-0/abstract

Strength.Honor
10-11-2011, 02:40 PM
lmao, she said it's her major and that she's a nutritionist, and that it's also in the textbook..

FourToEight
10-11-2011, 02:40 PM
No adverse effects of protein intake @ 3g/kg of bodyweight

http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614%2810%2900222-0/abstract

Not that his nutrition teacher is right but that study testing for muscle and cognitive functions?
I don't have the full text but it seems like they were testing for reaction time and plasma BCAA levels - study also only lasted for 3 weeks.

FourToEight
10-11-2011, 02:51 PM
lmao, she said it's her major and that she's a nutritionist, and that it's also in the textbook..

Ask her if her dream was to be a dietitian and then ask why she never made it.
Then neg her.

Ashlei
10-11-2011, 02:51 PM
No adverse effects of protein intake @ 3g/kg of bodyweight

http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614%2810%2900222-0/abstract

3 weeks wouldn't be long enough to really see liver damage.

This thread might have some relevant info...lots of good articles (abstract & titles, with links) from pubmed:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=138815223

dukend
10-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Ask her if her dream was to be a dietitian and then ask why she never made it.
Then neg her.

You do realize that you cannot "neg" in real life...

FourToEight
10-11-2011, 02:54 PM
You do realize that you cannot "neg" in real life...

Prove it, I want studies.

SOJA
10-11-2011, 02:55 PM
You do realize that you cannot "neg" in real life...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bitch+Slap

lovingit
10-11-2011, 02:57 PM
Put tacks on her chair.

Noviceplus
10-11-2011, 03:53 PM
better tell him to show some proof
Um... Basic biochemistry?

It really comes down to what was meant by, "kills the liver." These days that can mean a lot of things. After all, statements like, "My workout was a killer," aren't literal. Your liver is your major processing station for everything, including proteins. Eating a lot of protein means a lot of extra work for the liver. "Work was a killer" means you've had a ton of stuff to do and are tired as a result, no? So, it's quite reasonable to interpret, "kills the liver" as "it gives the liver a ton of stuff to do."

Seek clarification.

in10city
10-11-2011, 03:54 PM
Lettuce be cereal, it's more likely abuse of c17-alpha alkylated orals that killed teh liver.

HunterCML
10-11-2011, 04:05 PM
Anecdotally, I've personally had my doctor express his concern about my elevated liver count ever since I began a high protein diet.

FunkymonkAW
10-11-2011, 04:13 PM
Liver processes protein :confused:

nosix
10-11-2011, 04:15 PM
According to what study?

Strength.Honor
10-11-2011, 04:17 PM
Anecdotally, I've personally had my doctor express his concern about my elevated liver count ever since I began a high protein diet.

And I understand that a high protein diet can have effects on the liver... but for a nutrition teacher to make the claim that high protein diet eventually kills the liver... extreme?

HunterCML
10-11-2011, 04:20 PM
And I understand that a high protein diet can have effects on the liver... but for a nutrition teacher to make the claim that high protein diet eventually kills the liver... extreme?

Very much so.

I persoanlly think my blood test results were skewed because they were not fasted and I was IF'ing at the time. Who would have thought 100g+ of protein right before a blood test would result in a high liver count.. ;)

lol

Black_Label
10-11-2011, 04:22 PM
Intake in our circles might be excessive, but if person has no predisposition to related illnesses their bodies should be able to handle it.

shawkseed
10-11-2011, 04:35 PM
what about a recovered alcoholic who drank daily for a decade or longer ?
the liver does heal itself , my liver count used to be high but havent drank in 6 months or so ? am i farked? am i gonna kill my liver with whey shakes
and chicken wraps?