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ne12o
09-29-2011, 09:57 PM
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Love Pirate
09-29-2011, 10:03 PM
1) Vick isn't the best, but he has some crazy games where he is untouchable like against the giants last year. Brady, brees, Rodgers etc are better passers

2) McCoy is actually pretty tight

3) desean is tight but he's not the best. He's one of the fastest, but I'd take Andre, Calvin, Larry, mike Wallace, etc

melanimal_old
09-29-2011, 10:15 PM
Vick is not the best. You put Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers in that offense it would set records.

kethnaab
09-30-2011, 12:37 AM
Jason Peters, Trent Cole, and Nnamdi Asomugha are the only ones on the Eagles that can lay a claim to uncontested top 5 status at their position. LeSean McCoy and DJax (specific role) get honorable mention.

ELChavoDeL8
09-30-2011, 12:40 AM
lol no

Desean is fast as fawk ill give you that though

Be_Easy_25
09-30-2011, 12:44 AM
i agree, the eagles do have the best record in the NFC.


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BenadrylBandit
09-30-2011, 01:40 AM
lol no. You could probably argue we have one of the most stacked offenses overall as far as weapons goes.

No team can touch Vick, McCoy, Djax, Maclin

FAH_Q
09-30-2011, 01:54 AM
D-Jax is a one trick pony bro. Brb afraid to go across the middle. Even his teammates have called him out on it. More than once too. I just read something today about a teammate questioning it.

Like another user said. If we are talking about a stack offense altogether, then yes Eagles are definitely stacked, but not the best QB/WR/RB combo.

CCAurora
09-30-2011, 01:56 AM
Vick is not the best. You put Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers in that offense it would set records.

He's saying that they have the best QB/WR/RB combo, not that each individual is the best at their position...

Ralph Wiggum
09-30-2011, 04:42 AM
Djax is overrated as ****. Maclin is our #1 receiver and our best receiver. DJax is playing himself out of a big contract this year. 30% reception rate in his last 6 or 7 games which is 30% lower than the NFL average.

Be_Easy_25
09-30-2011, 06:22 AM
Djax is overrated as ****. Maclin is our #1 receiver and our best receiver. DJax is playing himself out of a big contract this year. 30% reception rate in his last 6 or 7 games which is 30% lower than the NFL average.

Oh so now he shouldn't get the money?

Which means he should have held out....GT cheap organization TFO.

HipChecker
09-30-2011, 06:23 AM
NFC Eagles? Didn't realize the AFC had a team called the Eagles too.

Ralph Wiggum
09-30-2011, 06:28 AM
Oh so now he shouldn't get the money?

Which means he should have held out....GT cheap organization TFO.

lol cheap organization my ass... they pay players who deserve it (Asante, Aso, Jenkins) and let old ones who don't deserve it (McNabb, Westbrook, Dawkins) anymore go.

he definitely deserves alot more than he is making. however, he does NOT deserve top 5 wr money like he wants.

knox07
09-30-2011, 08:32 AM
OP knows nothing of football

/thread

knox07
09-30-2011, 08:33 AM
Jason Peters, Trent Cole, and Nnamdi Asomugha are the only ones on the Eagles that can lay a claim to uncontested top 5 status at their position. LeSean McCoy and DJax (specific role) get honorable mention.

lol neither lesean or DJ are top 10 in their positions

EDIT: ehh... lesean for sure isnt top 8

knox07
09-30-2011, 08:37 AM
Oh so now he shouldn't get the money?

Which means he should have held out....GT cheap organization TFO.

its being smart with money. its called running a ****in business. overpay someone everytime they have a few good games and youll end up like the readskins

brb 5 year 40 mil contract with mcnabb? how about we cut him after this year..

chargerfn909
09-30-2011, 08:58 AM
I was unaware there was an AFC Eagles...

GrecoRoman
09-30-2011, 09:01 AM
Vick is not the best. You put Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers in that offense it would set records.

not with that oline

Budly69
09-30-2011, 09:40 AM
Vick is a top 5 qb, McCoy is a top 5 back, DJax is not a top 5 wr, Peters is a top 5 LT, Trent Cole is a top 5 4-3 DE(in b4 phaggots don't know the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4), Aso is the best CB in the league. The Eagles have a damn solid roster but those are the only top 5ers they have.

himynameisjohn
09-30-2011, 10:09 AM
Vick is a top 5 qb, McCoy is a top 5 back, DJax is not a top 5 wr, Peters is a top 5 LT, Trent Cole is a top 5 4-3 DE(in b4 phaggots don't know the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4), Aso is the best CB in the league. The Eagles have a damn solid roster but those are the only top 5ers they have.

vick top 5 qb?? LMAO

1ab)Manning/Brady
3) Rodgers
4) Brees
5) Rivers
Schaub/Manning/Roethlisberger etc. are all better than Vick

and thats in no specific order just where i feel

also lol @ mccoy top 5 back

Peterson
Foster
Johnson
McFadden
Charles
MJD etc.

Budly69
09-30-2011, 10:16 AM
vick top 5 qb?? LMAO

1ab)Manning/Brady
3) Rodgers
4) Brees
5) Rivers
)Schaub/Manning/Roethlisberger etc. are all better than Vick

and thats in no roder

also lol @ mccoy top 5 back

Peterson
Foster
Johnson
McFadden
Charles
MJD etc.

I can't tell if you are trolling or just an idiot but I'll respond anyway.

Vick is top 5
1a/1b Brady/Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Manning
4. Vick
5. Rivers

McCoy is a top 5 back now and will hold the position for awhile
1. Peterson
2.DMac
3. MJD
4. McCoy

Foster is more or less a one year wonder that hasn't shown anything yet, CJ hasn't done dick this year and Charles is out for the year.

Try again phaggot.

bustermac
09-30-2011, 10:19 AM
The AFC Eagles> NFC Eagles

Also, OP is wrong.

Gator1010
09-30-2011, 10:20 AM
I can't tell if you are trolling or just an idiot but I'll respond anyway.

Vick is top 5
1a/1b Brady/Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Manning
4. Vick
5. Rivers

McCoy is a top 5 back now and will hold the position for awhile
1. Peterson
2.DMac
3. MJD
4. McCoy

Foster is more or less a one year wonder that hasn't shown anything yet, CJ hasn't done dick this year and Charles is out for the year.

Try again phaggot.

disregard lists, they do not include michael turner and some how you put brees over manning.

Budly69
09-30-2011, 10:26 AM
disregard lists, they do not include michael turner and some how you put brees over manning.

Ahh yes Michael Turner, he would probably be top 5 as well... The only concrete rankings with the backs are 1 and 2, MJD, McCoy, and Turner could all make cases for the last 3 spots. And Brees>Manning, just as many rings with far inferior talent around him.

zmoffat
09-30-2011, 10:31 AM
Mike Pick is overrated.

/thread

*DH*
09-30-2011, 10:54 AM
stfu op

nlite2000
09-30-2011, 11:39 AM
I wish everything that has anything to do with Phiadelphia, other than Benjamin Franklin, the Rocky movies, and cheesesteak sandwiches would die in a fire. Especially OP.

Ralph Wiggum
09-30-2011, 11:46 AM
lol neither lesean or DJ are top 10 in their positions

EDIT: ehh... lesean for sure isnt top 8

lesean is top 5

kethnaab
09-30-2011, 12:56 PM
D-Jax is a one trick pony bro.


Djax is overrated as ****. Maclin is our #1 receiver and our best receiver. DJax is playing himself out of a big contract this year. 30% reception rate in his last 6 or 7 games which is 30% lower than the NFL average.

ok, so I can say that Wallace is the better deep threat now without people calling me a homer?


lol neither lesean or DJ are top 10 in their positions

EDIT: ehh... lesean for sure isnt top 8

I dunno about that one. I think McCoy is definitely top 8.


Vick is a top 5 qb, McCoy is a top 5 back, DJax is not a top 5 wr, Peters is a top 5 LT, Trent Cole is a top 5 4-3 DE(in b4 phaggots don't know the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4), Aso is the best CB in the league.

disagree entirely on Vick. He was a top 5 QB one season in his career. McCoy is probably a top 5 back. DJax is definitely not top 5, Peters is definitely top 5, and Cole is undeniably top 5, possibly top 3 and a solid argument can be made for the top 4-3 DE


disregard lists, they do not include michael turner and some how you put brees over manning.

probably because Brees has been better for about 4 or 5 seasons now

gottk2x
09-30-2011, 01:06 PM
What


How are the AFC Eagles doing?

C411911
09-30-2011, 01:14 PM
Ahh yes Michael Turner, he would probably be top 5 as well... The only concrete rankings with the backs are 1 and 2, MJD, McCoy, and Turner could all make cases for the last 3 spots. And Brees>Manning, just as many rings with far inferior talent around him.

lol you are a dumb piece of ****

Brees> Manning with inferior talent???

Manning has Wayne, Clark, Garcon, Collie, White, Addai, Brown

Brown is a bust (he is 3rd stringer this year drafted in the 1st round), Garcon drops half his passes, White isn't even in the rotation, Addai is injury prone and has 1 1000yd rushing season

Brees has Colston, Henderson, Machem, Thomas, Moore, Graham, Bush, etc. I'm comparing Mannings 2010 roster to Brees

Brees has an insane amount of weapons

and this year he gets Sproles and Ingram while losing only Shockey

Budly69
09-30-2011, 01:21 PM
lol you are a dumb piece of ****

Brees> Manning with inferior talent???

Manning has Wayne, Clark, Garcon, Collie, White, Addai, Brown

Brown is a bust (he is 3rd stringer this year drafted in the 1st round), Garcon drops half his passes, White isn't even in the rotation, Addai is injury prone and has 1 1000yd rushing season

Brees has Colston, Henderson, Machem, Thomas, Moore, Graham, Bush, etc. I'm comparing Mannings 2010 roster to Brees

Brees has an insane amount of weapons

and this year he gets Sproles and Ingram while losing only Shockey

I was talking career-wise homeboy, chill out. You pin point one year that Brees has on par talent yet neglect the fact that Manning was literally surrounded by all stars for nearly all of his career and only able to get one ring which can be attributed to the Bears being the worst team to ever make the big game and Mannings defense and run game winning the preceding playoff games for him despite his craptastic performances. If you give Brees Mannings roster from 02-08 you are looking at multiple rings instead of one.

C411911
09-30-2011, 01:23 PM
ok, so I can say that Wallace is the better deep threat now without people calling me a homer?



I dunno about that one. I think McCoy is definitely top 8.



disagree entirely on Vick. He was a top 5 QB one season in his career. McCoy is probably a top 5 back. DJax is definitely not top 5, Peters is definitely top 5, and Cole is undeniably top 5, possibly top 3 and a solid argument can be made for the top 4-3 DE



probably because Brees has been better for about 4 or 5 seasons now

Brees:
2010: 90.9 11-5
2009: 109.6 13-3
2008: 96.2 8-8
2007: 89.4 7-9
2006: 96.2 10-6

Manning:
2010: 91.9 10-6
2009: 99.9 MVP 14-2
2008: 95.0 MVP 12-4
2007: 98.0 13-3
2006: 101.0 12-4

This is why I dont post in this section anymore

C411911
09-30-2011, 01:25 PM
I was talking career-wise homeboy, chill out. You pin point one year that Brees has on par talent yet neglect the fact that Manning was literally surrounded by all stars for nearly all of his career and only able to get one ring which can be attributed to the Bears being the worst team to ever make the big game and Mannings defense and run game winning the preceding playoff games for him despite his craptastic performances. If you give Brees Mannings roster from 02-08 you are looking at multiple rings instead of one.

you don't watch football

offense doesnt win 'wrings'

thats why the 07 pats didnt win it all and the giants did

Ask any colts fan we would gladly trade Wayne, Harrison, Clark for the Steelers D or the Ravens D in a heartbeat. I dont care if manning is surrounded by pure **** players.

Also the only reason the Colts were in that 2006 super bowl was because Manning lead that team from 21-3 down at half time in the biggest comeback in AFCCG history and the game winning drive beating Mr Clutch himself 38-34

C411911
09-30-2011, 01:26 PM
Manning got back to the SB with the above roster I posted too btw just saying

so much for all stars

Budly69
09-30-2011, 01:36 PM
Manning got back to the SB with the above roster I posted too btw just saying

so much for all stars

The fact remains-Manning, Edge, Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Clark, Tarik Glenn, Jeff Saturday, and Ryan Diem all in their prime is the most talented offense even assembled and still Manning couldn't even get to the big show with this^^ squad. The defense he had at that time was also nothing to scoff at, they are the ones that carried him through the playoffs and to his only Superbowl victory. Drew Brees has won a ring with less talent, and Tom Brady has done it numerous times (several years Brady's offense was absolute trash). You are really coming off as a Manning homer considering how emotional you are to defend his (alleged) greatness... You aren't sick96stang by chance are you? You probably don't post here because there are enough guys here that see Manning for what he is, an over rated choke artist that was given the tools to set unprecedented win records and failed and you can't bear the thought of him being infallible in anyway.

WheyTooDiesel
09-30-2011, 01:55 PM
Best QB/RB/WR combo is

Schaub, Foster, Andre

2nd place is

Matt Ryan, Turner, Roddy White

bignpisst
09-30-2011, 03:37 PM
fukk I hate middle school type threads like these

kethnaab
09-30-2011, 05:01 PM
Brees:
2010: 90.9 11-5
2009: 109.6 13-3
2008: 96.2 8-8
2007: 89.4 7-9
2006: 96.2 10-6

Manning:
2010: 91.9 10-6
2009: 99.9 MVP 14-2
2008: 95.0 MVP 12-4
2007: 98.0 13-3
2006: 101.0 12-4

This is why I dont post in this section anymore

because you neglected to include Brees having more yards, more TD passes, drastically outperforming Manning in the postseason, setting a regular season record for completion %, becoming 1 of 2 QBs in NFL history to break 5000 yards passing in a season, and winning a SB MVP? Yet you include things like "MVP" for Manning, when he barely broke 4000 yards passing and had 27 TD passes in 2008 and got curbstomped by Drew Brees in the regular season and then later on in the Super Bowl yet stole a second MVP because he had better name recognition?

if you are truly that shortsighted, it's good that you don't post here anymore.




Ask any colts fan we would gladly trade Wayne, Harrison, Clark for the Steelers D or the Ravens D in a heartbeat. I dont care if manning is surrounded by pure **** players.

Also the only reason the Colts were in that 2006 super bowl was because Manning lead that team from 21-3 down at half time in the biggest comeback in AFCCG history and the game winning drive beating Mr Clutch himself 38-34

and the only reason you were in that AFCCG was because the defense carried Manning's ass into it

3 TDs, 7 interceptions that postseason.

kethnaab
09-30-2011, 05:16 PM
this is absolutely rich. Wow.


lol you are a dumb piece of ****

Brees> Manning with inferior talent???

Manning has Wayne, Clark, Garcon, Collie, White, Addai, Brown yes, Wayne, 1st rounder, Clark 1st rounder, Addai 1st rounder and Brown 1st rounder and don't forget his time spent with Edgerrin James (1st rounder) and Marshall Faulk (1st rounder) as well as Marvin Harrison (1st rounder)

Brown is a bust (he is 3rd stringer this year drafted in the 1st round), Garcon drops half his passes, White isn't even in the rotation, Addai is injury prone and has 1 1000yd rushing season

Brees has Colston, Henderson, Machem, Thomas, Moore, Graham, Bush, etc. I'm comparing Mannings 2010 roster to Brees

Brees has an insane amount of weapons

and this year he gets Sproles and Ingram while losing only Shockey

interesting that you call Brown a bust yet list Reggie Bush as a benefit.

So let's see here, Manning has had Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark. At no time did he have less than 3 of these guys, all are 1st rounders.

are you REALLY going to try to claim that Brees has had anywhere NEAR the weapons Manning has had? Lance Moore, undrafted WR led the Saints in receiving yards in 2008 with 928 yards. His #1 TE was Billy Miller, 7th rounder in 1999. His normal #1 receiver, Marques Colston, was a 7th round draft pick. His leading RB that season was undrafted.

yet he threw for over 5000 yards.

That 2009 season where Manning "won" the MVP? Brees absolutely slaughtered him, both during the regular season, in the postseason, and during the SB.

here, let's check it out:

Brees - 363 for 514, 70.6%, 4388 yards, 34 TDs, 11 picks, 8.5 YPA, 6.6 TD%, 2.1 int%, 109.6 PR
Manning - 393 for 571, 68.8%, 4500 yards, 33 TDs, 16 picks, 7.9 YPA, 5.8 TD%, 2.8 int%, 99.9 PR

that was the 2nd consecutive MVP award Manning stole. This time, Brees got some nice revenge by getting a ring and the SB MVP.

Manning's career > almost everybody else.

Last several years, Brees has substantially outplayed him despite having a MUCH worse team on offense.

phillyfreak7
09-30-2011, 06:16 PM
Vick is a top 5 qb, McCoy is a top 5 back, DJax is not a top 5 wr, Peters is a top 5 LT, Trent Cole is a top 5 4-3 DE(in b4 phaggots don't know the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4), Aso is the best CB in the league. The Eagles have a damn solid roster but those are the only top 5ers they have.Agreed, but you're missing Asante Samuel. He's absolutely a top 5 corner. And right now Vick is on the fringe of being a top 5 QB.

XxxOneMoRepxxX
09-30-2011, 07:15 PM
Agreed, but you're missing Asante Samuel. He's absolutely a top 5 corner. And right now Vick is on the fringe of being a top 5 QB.

This ^^ Asante has been holding his own for sometime now. Def top 10 prob 6 or 5. Also lol at McCoy not being top 5. Foster, one yr wonder. Charles, out=irrelevant. CJ2K=CJbad day, every week now. McFadden has stepped up his game tho. Also shady is 2 in rush yds behind McFadden. Vick could be a top 5 qb. He's top 8. 1.Manning/Brady (Brady cus mannings out). 2.Rodgers 3.Brees (could pass A-Rodg if Colston can be his #1 consistenly like Jennings and Rodgers. ) 4. Schaub(will change soon enough) 5. Rivers(int kill him, but he makes up 4 it) 6. Roethlisberger. 7.Vick/Cutler/Ryan. All have good and bad days.


Discuss.

kethnaab
09-30-2011, 07:27 PM
last season Vick was on the fringe of being a top 5 QB but he regressed back to his old self this season.

fixed it for ya.

XxxOneMoRepxxX
09-30-2011, 07:32 PM
fixed it for ya.

I fear this may be happening. Although, he does seem more of a pocket passer and had more TDs last season than he had b4 (obviously do to his weapons), he does seem like he's regressing a bit. Not there yet. He hasn't ran on eery pass play just yet ;) lol
Edit** talking about Vick regressing.