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KingCanuck
01-25-2011, 12:35 PM
List:

1. KC
2. ATL
3. TB
4. TOR
5. NYY
6. CIN
7. CLE
8. CHC
9. SD
10. COL
11. PHI
12. LAD
13. MIN
14. WASH
15. TX
16. LAA
17. BOS
18. SEA
19. PIT
20. NYM
21. BAL
22. AZ
23. SF
24. STL
25. DET
26. HOU
27. CHW
28. OAK
29. FLA
30. MIL

griepes
01-25-2011, 12:36 PM
lol go brewers!

**** baseball

cor030
01-25-2011, 12:40 PM
link? tried to find it but can't

KingCanuck
01-25-2011, 12:45 PM
link? tried to find it but can't

Don't got a link.

bbacn123
01-25-2011, 12:52 PM
List:

1. KC
2. ATL
3. TB
4. TOR
5. NYY
6. CIN
7. CLE
8. CHC
9. SD
10. COL
11. PHI
12. LAD
13. MIN
14. WASH
15. TX
16. LAA
17. BOS
18. SEA
19. PIT
20. NYM
21. BAL
22. AZ
23. SF
24. STL
25. DET
26. HOU
27. CHW
28. OAK
29. FLA
30. MIL

ATL will be #1 when KC grows a set and decides to actually promote some players instead of trying to build some stash and play them all at once.

1GGY
01-25-2011, 12:54 PM
Source?

KingCanuck
01-25-2011, 12:55 PM
Source?

I made it up STFU.

Clives_Bicep
01-25-2011, 12:57 PM
ATL! yup

melanimal_old
01-25-2011, 01:05 PM
im a BA subscriber... you can pm me if u need anything... reps appreciated.

1GGY
01-25-2011, 01:10 PM
I made it up STFU.

lol @ Toronto


they won't make playoffs for a LONG time

brb_ballin
01-25-2011, 01:13 PM
lol @ making up the list then naming thread Baseball America releases..

MA5Bergey
01-25-2011, 01:21 PM
lol, remember when ignorant idiots used to say the Yankees used to buy all their talent and have no farm system? Wait wut?

kclulz88
01-25-2011, 01:22 PM
At least the Royals can be 1st place in something

89FoxBody
01-25-2011, 01:24 PM
lol, remember when ignorant idiots used to say the Yankees used to buy all their talent and have no farm system? Wait wut?



shhh there is no logic in this section you phaggot

ATownDRock
01-25-2011, 01:27 PM
shhh there is no logic in this section you phaggot

or reading comprehension apparently. OP made up all of it

bbacn123
01-25-2011, 01:29 PM
lol, remember when ignorant idiots used to say the Yankees used to buy all their talent and have no farm system? Wait wut?

You do buy your talent. You trade your prospects for overpayed players that no one else can afford to trade for because their contract is so high.

See: Alex Rodriguez

PitBillSoxFan
01-25-2011, 01:58 PM
You do buy your talent. You trade your prospects for overpayed players that no one else can afford to trade for because their contract is so high.

See: Alex Rodriguez

What is wrong with that? We HELP teams by trading our prospects for players they won't be able to afford.

The Marlins have one of the best players in baseball thanks to the Red Sox and we gave them HUGE salary relief. The Padres have a top pitching prospect because of the Red Sox. The Tigers have one of the best up and coming outfielders because of the Yankees, and they got huge salary relief.

Small market teams needs the Red Sox and Yankees so they can rebuild their teams and get salary relief. You're welcome.

bbacn123
01-25-2011, 03:21 PM
What is wrong with that? We HELP teams by trading our prospects for players they won't be able to afford.

The Marlins have one of the best players in baseball thanks to the Red Sox and we gave them HUGE salary relief. The Padres have a top pitching prospect because of the Red Sox. The Tigers have one of the best up and coming outfielders because of the Yankees, and they got huge salary relief.

Small market teams needs the Red Sox and Yankees so they can rebuild their teams and get salary relief. You're welcome.

lol I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. If that's how you want to use your farm then that's fine.

Although I find the Braves method more efficient and wouldn't want to use the Yankee way for any reason.

PitBillSoxFan
01-25-2011, 03:29 PM
lol I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. If that's how you want to use your farm then that's fine.

Although I find the Braves method more efficient and wouldn't want to use the Yankee way for any reason.

People/scouts/GMs generally over rate prospects. So I'd usually rather go with a known commodity (Beckett to some extent, AGon) than a prospect.

Theo has done a good job holding on to the right talent (especially Buchholz and Lester) while trading prospects. .

KingCanuck
01-25-2011, 03:37 PM
People/scouts/GMs generally over rate prospects. So I'd usually rather go with a known commodity (Beckett to some extent, AGon) than a prospect.

Theo has done a good job holding on to the right talent (especially Buchholz and Lester) while trading prospects. .

He did a great job trading that overrated Hanley Ramirez prospect away.

bbacn123
01-25-2011, 03:38 PM
He did a great job trading that overrated Hanley Ramirez prospect away.

They won a WS

GetBigyo
01-25-2011, 03:40 PM
#5.

hatersgonnahate

PitBillSoxFan
01-25-2011, 03:42 PM
He did a great job trading that overrated Hanley Ramirez prospect away.

and look at how awful that turned out
http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/67edc15e16_beckett11012007.jpg

MA5Bergey
01-25-2011, 03:51 PM
You do buy your talent. You trade your prospects for overpayed players that no one else can afford to trade for because their contract is so high.

See: Alex Rodriguez

Products of Yankee farm system or career Yankees on the Yankee roster last year:

Alfredo Aceves
Joba Chamberlain
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova
Andy Pettitte
David Robertson
Mariano Rivera
Jorge Posada
Francisco Cervelli
Derek Jeter
Robinson Cano
Eduardo Nunez
Ramiro Pena
Brett Gardner
Kevin Russo
Nick Johnson
Juan Miranda

Add Austin Romine/Jesus Montero this year, one of whom will 99% likely become the Yankees catcher of the future, and uh... I don't exactly get how you can say we buy all of our talent.

Greg1983
01-25-2011, 04:54 PM
How long ago were these rankings formulated? LOL if the Brewers were rated 30 BEFORE trading their #1 prospect in Lawrie. Even if it is post-Lawrie, LOL anyways.

from_scratch
01-25-2011, 05:52 PM
They won a WS

This^^^

Beckett was the 2003 world series MVP. Hanley who?

rampagefc77
01-25-2011, 06:13 PM
What is wrong with that? We HELP teams by trading our prospects for players they won't be able to afford.

The Marlins have one of the best players in baseball thanks to the Red Sox and we gave them HUGE salary relief. The Padres have a top pitching prospect because of the Red Sox. The Tigers have one of the best up and coming outfielders because of the Yankees, and they got huge salary relief.

Small market teams needs the Red Sox and Yankees so they can rebuild their teams and get salary relief. You're welcome.

lol strong reasoning... If there were a salary cap then each team would be working with similar budgets and each team would realistically be able to hold on to their prospects because teams like the yankees wouldn't exist-- unless all of those big name players wanted to take huge paycuts to play on the team. The wealth of the big market teams dictate the prices of players, so small market teams cannot compete because they dont have the cash to do so.

Thanks for doing the small market teams a "favor"...

mayweathermusic
01-25-2011, 06:18 PM
You do buy your talent. You trade your prospects for overpayed players that no one else can afford to trade for because their contract is so high.

See: Alex Rodriguez

Except Arod wasn't traded for a prospect he was traded for a guy coming off back to back 30-30 seasons.

melanimal_old
01-25-2011, 06:28 PM
Im pretty sure Freddie Freeman is a homosexual.

bbacn123
01-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Im pretty sure Freddie Freeman is a homosexual.

If he's an all-star 1B for the Braves he can have sex with whoever he wants

melanimal_old
01-25-2011, 06:30 PM
If he's an all-star 1B for the Braves he can have sex with whoever he wants

James Looney 2.0

thegenerel
01-25-2011, 06:30 PM
lol, remember when ignorant idiots used to say the Yankees used to buy all their talent and have no farm system? Wait wut?

for the most part they have a good to great farm system. with that budget they SHOULD have a great farm system.

bbacn123
01-25-2011, 06:31 PM
James Looney 2.0

Loney is actually pretty good so Im not sure if you're trying to cut Freeman down here or not

IsmellMYfarts
01-25-2011, 06:39 PM
giants are looking a little bare but brandon belt might do something

melanimal_old
01-25-2011, 06:42 PM
Loney is actually pretty good so Im not sure if you're trying to cut Freeman down here or not

Hes no Jonathan Singleton.

MA5Bergey
01-25-2011, 07:34 PM
for the most part they have a good to great farm system. with that budget they SHOULD have a great farm system.

???

And what does a budget have to do with a farm system?

89FoxBody
01-25-2011, 07:36 PM
You do buy your talent. You trade your prospects for overpayed players that no one else can afford to trade for because their contract is so high.

See: Alex Rodriguez



A-Rod is an all-time player. You can't really use him as an argument.

89FoxBody
01-25-2011, 07:40 PM
lol strong reasoning... If there were a salary cap then each team would be working with similar budgets and each team would realistically be able to hold on to their prospects because teams like the yankees wouldn't exist-- unless all of those big name players wanted to take huge paycuts to play on the team. The wealth of the big market teams dictate the prices of players, so small market teams cannot compete because they dont have the cash to do so.

Thanks for doing the small market teams a "favor"...


It's not that teams can't compete, they choose not to. The richest owners in baseball aren't the Steinbrenners or John Henry. It's the owners of the Twins. The TWINS.

Did you know the Marlins would make money if they didn't sell a single ticket or concession for the entire season? Does that sound right to you?

Negatron617
01-25-2011, 08:58 PM
nice to have something like this to cheer you up when cuz realize you actually aint winning **** again this year

PitBillSoxFan
01-26-2011, 05:03 AM
lol strong reasoning... If there were a salary cap then each team would be working with similar budgets and each team would realistically be able to hold on to their prospects because teams like the yankees wouldn't exist-- unless all of those big name players wanted to take huge paycuts to play on the team. The wealth of the big market teams dictate the prices of players, so small market teams cannot compete because they dont have the cash to do so.

Thanks for doing the small market teams a "favor"...

Ignorant fans think baseball needs a salary cap. Intelligent fans realize a salary floor would have a MUCH bigger impact on the game.

Why have a salary cap? Why restrict what players are allowed to make? Why put a ceiling on how much owners are allowed to make? Salary caps in sports are stupid. You want everyone on a similiar playing field? Make the multi billionaire owners spend money on their club.

aeneas26
01-26-2011, 05:58 AM
ATL will be #1 when KC grows a set and decides to actually promote some players instead of trying to build some stash and play them all at once.

The only Royals prospect who is close to ready is Moustakas, aside from some filler RP. The rest of their good SP and hitting prospects have yet to complete a full year in AA. So there will not be any big movement this year, or at least at the beginning of the year. Moore is a big believer in making prospects go through every stage of the minors.

Also, Moore is protecting his job by waiting to promote the prospects. KC will snap once the prospects get called up and struggle. Most people here are under the delusion that the prospects will instantly make KC a contender. There are a significant amount of people in KC who honestly believe the Royals will contend in 2012 once a lot of the prospects are called up. In other words, most KC fans are knee jerk reactionaries who do not understand much of anything about baseball. So Moore will not call them up all at once. Plus Moore is sure to game Moustakas's playing clock so he does not become a super 2. So I would not expect him up until mid June.

Finally, KC has a ton of prospects in rookie ball and low A that have a lot of potential. Even after Mous and Hos are called up, there will be other prospects who can hopefully take his place. Moore struggles with FA signings and evaluating major league talent, but his staff does a good job of drafting and developing players.

Mac_xX
01-26-2011, 06:08 AM
lol at 3 of the top 5 being from AL east

ATownDRock
01-26-2011, 07:22 AM
???

And what does a budget have to do with a farm system?

not sure if srs. Ever hear of Scott Boras? Or perhaps the international players signed for millions of dollars at the age of 16-17-18?

Some teams can't afford to give players that big of bonus'. Scott Boras is effing good at what he does. Can't blame the guy for following the rules and making money for his clients. MLB needs to fix some stuff.

melanimal_old
01-26-2011, 11:26 AM
heres klaws. Phillies have aquired Halladay, Oswalt and Lee in trades and still have a top 5 system.

royals
rays
braves
jays
phillies
angels
twins
reds
yankees
mariners
red sox
rangers
dbacks
cards
rockies
padres
indians
A's
Nats
Cubs
Pirates
Dodgers
Giants
O's
Tigers
Mets
Astros
White Sox
Marlins
Brewers